Cindy Sheehan: Insane (1618 hits)
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Submitted by Jack McCallum (View user info) at 2005-10-26 16:18:30 EDT
Cindy Sheehan. When will she go away?
It's bad enough that the New York Times and the San Francisco Chronicle and other leftist rags give this sad, deluded woman endless print coverage. Where are the front page stories about proud parents who lost sons and daughters in Iraq?
Its worse that she is using the memory of a son who died in Iraq while serving his country by choice. Casey Sheehan RE-ENLISTED in the army in 2004. He knew what he was getting into. He was not pressured. He was not forced. He was not drafted. He VOLUNTEERED to go on the mission in which he was killed in action. President Bush met with Cindy Sheehan afterward and expressed his condolences, but she seems to believe the President should follow the orders of a woman who whores her dead son for attention and against all logic (and the majority opinion of our elected leaders) demands we pull out of Iraq now.
The latest Sheehan fallout?
Now it looks like the city of Berkeley, California, has cancelled their Veteran's Day event because Cindy and other anti-war activists wanted to speak there.
Edwin Harper, adjutant of the local chapter of Disabled American Veterans summed things up best by saying, "They have the other 364 days and 23 hours to make their political point."
And now another look the demented left with a quick detour into ACLU Bullshit...
Taken from their news page -
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Border Vigilante Arrested for Illegally Detaining Immigrant
October 24, 2005
ACLU says Incident Confirms its Suspicions about Minutemen
HACHITA, NM - Today the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico expressed concern over reports that a member of the Minuteman vigilante group illegally detained two migrants near the Mexican border last week.
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Funny how the only use of the word illegal is in describing the American trying to stop yet one more illegal alien from sneaking into the country. Jesus.
Now, back to Cindy.
Cindy quotes for your consideration:
"I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people... since we first stepped on this continent; we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bulls**t to my son, and my son enlisted. I'm going all over the country telling moms this country is not worth dying for."
"You get that evil maniac out here, 'cause a Gold Star Mother, somebody whose blood is on his hands, has some questions for him."
"The biggest terrorist is George W. Bush."
"If he thinks that it's so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war."
"Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC [Project for the New American Century] Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George [W.] Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11."
And finally...
"... In their secret hiding places, while celebrating newly won fortunes with their fellow brass, these men must surely congratulate themselves with orgies of carnal pleasure as they mock the dwindling multitudes who are yet so blind as to mistake them for God's devoted servants."
Orgies of carnal pleasure?
Somebody call Atticus Finch. We got another mad dog whut need's shootin'.
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-10-27 16:37:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC [Project for the New American Century] Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel.
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HAR HAR ZIONIST MEDIA CONSPIRACY
Oh, and Jack, thanx for that pic - that IS a nice t-shirt (drools)
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-10-27 16:37:17 EDT (#)
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Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC [Project for the New American Century] Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel.
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HAR HAR ZIONIST MEDIA CONSPIRACY
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-10-27 16:37:17 EDT (#)
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Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC [Project for the New American Century] Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel.
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HAR HAR ZIONIST MEDIA CONSPIRACY
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-27 15:01:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-10-26 19:09:50 (#)
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Border Vigilante Arrested for Illegally Detaining Immigrant
October 24, 2005
ACLU says Incident Confirms its Suspicions about Minutemen
HACHITA, NM - Today the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico expressed concern over reports that a member of the Minuteman vigilante group illegally detained two migrants near the Mexican border last week.
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My law education being as limited as it is (*snicker*) explain to me how it is illegal for a citizen to detain the perpetrator of a crime. (I know, this is oversimplified, but you get the point)
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Having a little more experience in these matters, I'm going to have to assume that:
#1 The Minuteman involved was probably a local "tough-guy", wanna be policeman who was
trying to usurp the power of the local law enforcement personel rather than complement it.
#2 That same Minuteman, more than likely, went 'over-the-top' in his handling of the matter
either by injuring the "Mex", or by violating one of many statutes covered by International
law.
I'm quite sure either both, or a combinantion, of these factors is why the Minuteman is
being held accountable.
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Let the professional law enforcement agencys handle the situation because that's what
they are paid for and, don't try and 'punk' them out because YOU WILL always LOSE.
Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-10-27 14:55:12 EDT (#)
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1. read O'Reilly article
2. reword said article
3. post on UBER
4. stick a huge dildo up your ass
I really could give a shit less about Sheehan.
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2005-10-27 12:52:13 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2005-10-27 11:31:37 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by nrduncan (user info) at 2005-10-27 10:22:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Liberal Rubbish
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-10-27 06:56:56 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:41:52 (#)
Ranking: -1
On the topic of Sheehan, her freedom to be an annoying, opprotunistic loudmouth is the sort of thing you patriot types are supposed to be in support of. It's the American way, right? It's the same freedom that lets the KKK march in black neighborhoods without fear of being attacked. So quit your fucking whining, you fascist.
As for your immigrant complaint, two wrongs don't make a right. Had the man merely point a gun at them and told them to turn around, perhaps your complain would be justified. But the man HELD THEM CAPTIVE FOR SEVERAL DAYS. Just as you can't lock up a burgler in your basement and starve him, we can't lock up illegal immigrants. And on the topic of immigrants, what's your fucking problem? Are you native american? I doubt it. Shut the fuck up.
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And what he said.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-10-27 06:55:38 EDT (#)
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She can say what ever she wants, you can say whatever you want but I don't have to like it.
Submitted by GaidinCanuck (user info) at 2005-10-27 04:20:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
This was fun... Thanks all for the entertainment.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-10-27 03:45:39 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:25:11 (#)
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I have a more pressing question: When will everyone shut the fuck up about her?
It's her RIGHT to say what she thinks, whether you agree or not. She is an American, and she has the freedom to laude her country or slam it as much as she wants.
This is old.
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Translation:
Everyone has the right to say anything they like and you're not allowed to say otherwise!
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-10-27 01:47:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Ann Coulter is good for one thing:
....You know....
....he he he....
.....actually...nothing.
Submitted by Shroom (user info) at 2005-10-27 00:52:59 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
"I was raised in a country by a public school system that taught us that America was good, that America was just. America has been killing people... since we first stepped on this continent; we have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bulls**t to my son, and my son enlisted. I'm going all over the country telling moms this country is not worth dying for."
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"If you don't like it, go to Russia" --Homer Simpson
Plus Fucking Two.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-10-26 22:50:46 EDT (#)
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why do half the americans bitch and moan about useless shit, like Cindy Sheehan.
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT CINDY SHEEHAN. WHO GIVES TWO FUCKS.
IT'S NEWS FILLER. IT'S BULLSHIT. MOVE ON WITH LIFE.
Half you idiots pre-occupy with gay ass bullshit. FUCKING MOVE ON.
Submitted by WellFedEthiopian (user info) at 2005-10-26 21:04:14 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
I'm not for this war, but I agree she's a fucking attention-whore.
Submitted by freebie (user info) at 2005-10-26 21:00:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I've been lied to. All the lib women I've seen are horse faced Janet Renos, not that fine piece of america hating poon. Now I wanna hate america too.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2005-10-26 20:49:07 EDT (#)
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All I really wanna know, fellow liberals, is if we're gonna roll our eyes everytime the conservatives trot out 9/11 to pass any and all related an unrelated legislation, how the fuck can we do the exact same thing and NOT LOOK LIKE FUCKING HYPOCRITES?
Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-10-26 20:44:42 EDT (#)
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who?
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2005-10-26 20:39:42 EDT (#)
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"It's bad enough that the New York Times and the San Francisco Chronicle and other leftist rags give this sad, deluded woman endless print coverage."
Is any paper not a leftist rag anymore? My (conservative) Government teacher today told us NYT was slightly conservative. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO BELIEVE
That said, Cindy Sheehan can blow me.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 20:15:40 EDT (#)
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http://www.jackmccallum.com/
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-10-26 19:43:43 EDT (#)
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Dirty fucking whore.
If i saw her I would spit in her face.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2005-10-26 19:27:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Anyone who doesn't see this woman is tipped out of her freaking gourd is blind themselves.
BTW, Ms. Sheehan, if Bush should "sign up" his daughters, then why did you "Sign up" your son when you don't agree with the war? Or could it be that people chose the military of their own volition?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-10-26 19:09:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Border Vigilante Arrested for Illegally Detaining Immigrant
October 24, 2005
ACLU says Incident Confirms its Suspicions about Minutemen
HACHITA, NM - Today the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico expressed concern over reports that a member of the Minuteman vigilante group illegally detained two migrants near the Mexican border last week.
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My law education being as limited as it is (*snicker*) explain to me how it is illegal for a citizen to detain the perpetrator of a crime. (I know, this is oversimplified, but you get the point)
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-10-26 19:00:21 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"Do they have WiFi in the monastary?
What truth is there in Cindy using her son in a way he would object to, as his life choices clearly show?"
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With all due respect, Jack, I think she might know her own son and the reasons for his actions a little better than you, dude. She said herself she had a lot to do with fashioning his ideals about what was right and wrong, and what 'doing your duty' meant. The thing about it is, what he would have thought about it makes no difference...
Dead men tell no tales.
Dead men have no opinions.
...and yes, the monestary does have WiFi. But only for childporn.
Seriously though...when you stop looking for reasons to hate people, you begin to better understand them and where they're coming from. This lady is coming from a place of deep hurt and a bitter feeling that she is at least partially responsible for what's happened to her son. And I think that, no matter how emotional and misguided some of the specific things she says may be, she's coming from a place that's genuine - and that, to me, is worth more than 1000 flowery, prepared speeches by bullshit, puppet politicians.
Submitted by Butler (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:58:10 EDT (#)
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First, Casey Sheehan didn't know that Bush lied to the American peopel when he re-enlisted. he bought the WMD story just like everyone else. As you know, that story is now crumbling around Bush (with the forthcoming indictments of Libby and Rove).
Secondly, come up with your own thoughts. Don't just regurgitate what o'Reilly says. Also, you might want to do your own research to make sure it's accurate. Here's the link to Jack's ripoff of O'Reilly. Read for yourself:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510210003
Submitted by Axtumanu (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:56:03 EDT (#)
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Exactly, you cant just drop it all now, there is a commitment to see it though to the end. Otherwise it would be absolute chaos in that country.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:51:55 EDT (#)
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Jack, Jack... disagree with you as I may on certain issues, I can't help but admire your formidable fighting spirit.
Plus, I have to agree with you. Though I stand with the liberals on many topics, I'm sick to death of Sheehan. Sure, Bush is a moron and most of his senior advisors are either insane war mongers or OPEC's panty-wearing poodles, but what is her group doing? Standing around in circles holding hands and singing kumbayah? Let's get some suggestions going, people. You want an exit strategy? Propose one! Holding signs and saying "well, we never should have gotten into the war in the first place," is not going to do us a damn bit of good right now.
Add on to that the fact that they've been using the names of dead soldiers who did not know about or support their agenda. A father had to come out some time ago to remove his son's "cross" from one of their demonstrations. I'd be a damned hypocrite if I didn't call that disrespecting the dead. If I died in 9/11, my name should not be used to fuel a war I would not approve of. On the same token, if a soldier died to defend his country and agenda, his or her name should not be used to deride that agenda.
Sheehan should be asking herself one thing right now; what does she want to accomplish? If she wanted to prove a point, that Bush would not come out to see her, that's done. She and her group should lift their little vigil and stop annoying the locals. If she wants to get the troops home, perhaps she should do her research and come up with a valid exit strategy.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:47:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:37:26 (#)
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"You can lead a horse to water...
...but beating a dead one is much more fun apparently." - ETS
Jack, insofar as you illustrate the very reason that screaming emotionally about something about which you feel strongly is not always the best way, I'm with you.
All it takes is a voice couched in conviction, compassion, and empathy to hammer home the truth if indeed it's on your side. The truth, we often want to believe, is self-evident; but that's just not always the case.
People have their own background, their own upbringing... The world is so loud with itself, and everyone becomes suspect to having their own hidden agenda.
If I could sum it all up in one sentence, it would be this:
We're missing the forest for the trees.
Beyond all the cynicism inherent in BOTH sides of the argument there is the simple truth of the matter, and a little quiet meditation on it should make that truth clear to you.
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Do they have WiFi in the monastary?
What truth is there in Cindy using her son in a way he would object to, as his life choices clearly show?
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:44:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:23:42 (#)
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There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that support the fact that Bush asked the US and British intelligence to find a reason to go to war.
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May I see one of those mountains?
Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:39:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:53:54 (#)
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:48:04 (#)
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Ok, here's a justification: Bush sent her son to war on a lie.
What he thought he was fighting for... nope! sorry. lies. Couldn't find any wmd! haha! oopsey! Here, halliburton, have this no-bid government contract to "rebuild" Iraq. And when we say "Iraq" we mean "oil pipelines"
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You mean Bush AND all the Democrats and Republicans who signed off on that action, based on info that America and many other nations believed was true?
We didn't see any extended debates against going to Iraq when it was first proposed
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This is a shitty, shitty defense, Jack.
Just because a bunch of political panderers play a game to maximize their airs of 'patriotism' in front of C-SPAN cameras doesn't mean a goddamned thing.
The way you and other talking heads latch onto Cindy Sheehan as if she were a spokesperson for the DNC is disgusting. I agree with whomever labelled you "Ann Coulter."
Another rabid piece of Kool-Aid-inspired political frothery designed to enrage your opposition and make you feel smug, eh Ann? Well done, as usual.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:37:26 EDT (#)
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"You can lead a horse to water...
...but beating a dead one is much more fun apparently." - ETS
Jack, insofar as you illustrate the very reason that screaming emotionally about something about which you feel strongly is not always the best way, I'm with you.
All it takes is a voice couched in conviction, compassion, and empathy to hammer home the truth if indeed it's on your side. The truth, we often want to believe, is self-evident; but that's just not always the case.
People have their own background, their own upbringing... The world is so loud with itself, and everyone becomes suspect to having their own hidden agenda.
If I could sum it all up in one sentence, it would be this:
We're missing the forest for the trees.
Beyond all the cynicism inherent in BOTH sides of the argument there is the simple truth of the matter, and a little quiet meditation on it should make that truth clear to you.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:33:54 EDT (#)
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Haha whatever dude, don't get all mad. Just because I'm a psycho bitch doesn't mean all women are.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:24:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Cindy's relationship to the mothers of the other 2000 dead and 18,000 wounded?
Whoa!......small #
Chances of winning an argument against a grieving mother who's lost her son?
Whoa!......even smaller #
******
It seems that city will never get it's shit together but at least I finally remember why
I enjoyed kicking the hell out of all those people in the late 60's and early 70's after
reading these reviews and rankings.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:23:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Axtumanu (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:09:45 (#)
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Cindy probably had a psychological break when her son died. She is dishonoring her sons memory with her actions, and now dishonering the veterans in Berkley because it might be "Pro-War" to have Veterans Day? WTF is with that!
I also remember that EVERYONE was for the war on Iraq in the begining, Democrats, Republicans, and the like. Why wasnt there any questioning then? Also, the CIA had information on WBDs in Iraq, so people went by that. You would do the same. Bush isnt evil, he was uninformed, as was the rest of the world.
Back before the war, there were members of Saddam's inner circle who defected to the US adn spilled lots of information about biological and chemical weapons manufacturing in Iraq. They weould track the movements of UN weapons inspectors, and move the day before they got somewhere. Also, Saddam had used chemical weapons before, so precident is there. I believe that early in the war they found some mobile chemical labs, quite a few of them. I remember the anti-war front saying they could have been used for making fertilizer! HA! MOBILE labs for that? At 1 mil USD apiece? Hell no! They are mobile because THEY CAN HIDE EASY! They are also ideal for dismantilng chemical weapons! Who would have thought that?
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Pull your head out of your ass. There WAS questioning! It just didn't go very far cause Bush was busy lying about the WMD's. This whole "Bush was uninformed" line is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. There are MOUNTAINS of evidence that support the fact that Bush asked the US and British intelligence to find a reason to go to war. Anything at all.
As for the mobile chemical labs? Do a google search, dipshit. The whole thing was debunked as bullshit. They were blurry satellite images! They saw some suspicious trucks and called them mobile chemical labs. Ugh.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:20:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:48:08 (#)
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:22:26 (#)
Ranking: -2
"Is that the same UN that imposed sanctions that did not work and siphoned money off of the Food for Oil programs for their own profit?"
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Holy Red Herring, Batman! Jack's tried to introduce an entirely unrelated topic to support his faltering point!
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WHAT THE-?-
You're the one that dragged the UN into this when I pointed out that all the pols in this country bitching about the war now didn't do dick when the subject first came up.
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The sanctions and food for oil program are the red herring. They have nothing to do with the argument. I merely brought them up cause you said there were no debates when, in fact, there were.
Submitted by Axtumanu (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:09:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Cindy probably had a psychological break when her son died. She is dishonoring her sons memory with her actions, and now dishonering the veterans in Berkley because it might be "Pro-War" to have Veterans Day? WTF is with that!
I also remember that EVERYONE was for the war on Iraq in the begining, Democrats, Republicans, and the like. Why wasnt there any questioning then? Also, the CIA had information on WBDs in Iraq, so people went by that. You would do the same. Bush isnt evil, he was uninformed, as was the rest of the world.
Back before the war, there were members of Saddam's inner circle who defected to the US adn spilled lots of information about biological and chemical weapons manufacturing in Iraq. They weould track the movements of UN weapons inspectors, and move the day before they got somewhere. Also, Saddam had used chemical weapons before, so precident is there. I believe that early in the war they found some mobile chemical labs, quite a few of them. I remember the anti-war front saying they could have been used for making fertilizer! HA! MOBILE labs for that? At 1 mil USD apiece? Hell no! They are mobile because THEY CAN HIDE EASY! They are also ideal for dismantilng chemical weapons! Who would have thought that?
+2 for the pic, good shirt.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:08:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:54:27 (#)
Ranking: -2
You know Jack, for someone who is seemingly intelligent, you are surprisingly ignorant.
This woman was alive during the Vietnam era, when many people took to the streets to protest against their government's involvement in a pointless, stupid war. Protesting, to us, seems like a thing of the past. I know many people my age who are vehemently against this war, but you know what they do? They sit on their fucking computer and make a post on some irrelevant website. Then they cry when they get a -2.
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I don't object to her speaking out.
I object to her whoring her dead son when HE enlisted and volunteered for risky missions. If he shared her views, he would have stayed home.
I did not object to those who protested the Vietnam war.
I did object to those who planned to blow shit up and hurt people during those protests. Of course, the Weathermen only fucked themselves...
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-10-26 18:02:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:54:27 (#)
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You know Jack, for someone who is seemingly intelligent, you are surprisingly ignorant.
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Thank you.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:56:26 EDT (#)
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And the polls won't do anything now either Jack.
Any thoughts on Bush's pick for the Chairman of the Fed?
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:54:27 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You know Jack, for someone who is seemingly intelligent, you are surprisingly ignorant.
This woman was alive during the Vietnam era, when many people took to the streets to protest against their government's involvement in a pointless, stupid war. Protesting, to us, seems like a thing of the past. I know many people my age who are vehemently against this war, but you know what they do? They sit on their fucking computer and make a post on some irrelevant website. Then they cry when they get a -2.
This is not a left or right issue. This is an issue of doing the right thing, which is, in fact, exercising our right to free speech that many, many people have fought and died for.
Go ahead, wrap up that -2 and send it off to all of the newspapers who report on Cindy Sheehan. They'll do the exact same thing you can do with it - absolutely nothing.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:48:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:22:26 (#)
Ranking: -2
"Is that the same UN that imposed sanctions that did not work and siphoned money off of the Food for Oil programs for their own profit?"
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Holy Red Herring, Batman! Jack's tried to introduce an entirely unrelated topic to support his faltering point!
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WHAT THE-?-
You're the one that dragged the UN into this when I pointed out that all the pols in this country bitching about the war now didn't do dick when the subject first came up.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:35:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I'm beginning to think you have to mop the floor with a handful of paper towels every time you drop a -2 in one of these posts. """
I'm sorry, I don't get it. Your humor is too sublte for my frenchness.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:34:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:25:16 (#)
Ranking: -2
Jack ignored every single replies that made sense on this post.
He's looking for a knee-jerk reaction and masturbates to FoxNews.
Please proceed to ignore his bitter ass until further notice.
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I'm beginning to think you have to mop the floor with a handful of paper towels every time you drop a -2 in one of these posts.
Submitted by mbstateside (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:30:08 EDT (#)
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Hurumph hurumph hurumph
Argue argue argue
(Link Whore http://www.ubersite.com/m/77813)
Hurumph hurumph hurumph
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:25:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Jack ignored every single replies that made sense on this post.
He's looking for a knee-jerk reaction and masturbates to FoxNews.
Please proceed to ignore his bitter ass until further notice.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:24:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:10:00 (#)
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Nice to see all the negative reviews posting valid arguments in defense of Sheehan.
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I may be deluded and full of impotent rage, but she has the right to defend her beliefs, and loudly if she wants. Bill O'Reilly annoys the fuck out of me, but I'll defend his right to ramble on about her as he undoubtedly does day after day. None of these are my reason for the negative rating. It's because it's old and boring news in my opinion. If a noob posted this, they'd get slaughtered. You're a really good writer and my opinion is that I'd rather read your fiction or a rant on a more interesting subject.
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I know she has been around a while. Too long, in my opinion. What blows my mind is that her threatened prescence shut down a Veteran's Day observation. It IS Berkeley, but still, we should be able to spend a day honoring those willing to fight for this country.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:22:26 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"Is that the same UN that imposed sanctions that did not work and siphoned money off of the Food for Oil programs for their own profit?"
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Holy Red Herring, Batman! Jack's tried to introduce an entirely unrelated topic to support his faltering point!
So the sanctions didn't work. That's why you try something else. The lesson to be taken is not "fuck sanctions, we just should go to war immediately." Rather, we should revise how sanctions are imposed on countries with oppresive dictators. And as for the Food for Oil scandal... how does 3 U.N. members become the entire UN?! Wow, Tom Delay is stealing compaign funds. CONGRESS IS WORTHLESS!~
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:21:30 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:16:03 (#)
Ranking: -2
I only had to read 2 lines for this.
Parents proud that their children died in vain? -2 for them if they exist as well.
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I have never been more proud of being a hardcore conservative than I was right after I read that last line and reacted with disgusted dismay.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:18:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
" 71% of the US thinks we aren't doing enough to prevent illegal immigration."
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And the ugly semantic of polling rears it's ugly head. The way the question is worded GREATLY affects the results. THat's why you can get results in the some poll that say 71% don't think the US does enough to prevent immigrants, but those same people say they really don't care what the gov't does concerning them. It's the whole "well, if you HAD to have an opinion, what would it be?" scenario.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:17:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:06:05 (#)
Ranking: -2
"We didn't see any extended debates against going to Iraq when it was first proposed"
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Watch c-span some time. There was a good 6 months of debates in the UN.
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Is that the same UN that imposed sanctions that did not work and siphoned money off of the Food for Oil programs for their own profit?
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:16:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I only had to read 2 lines for this.
Parents proud that their children died in vain? -2 for them if they exist as well.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:15:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:03:52 (#)
Ranking: -2
Trying to use her as a representation of the 'left' is like me using hitler as a representation of the 'right'.
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Exactly. From now on every single right-winger in America will be refered to as Ann Coulter.
That shemale bitch is just as crazy as Sheenan, if not worse. I wonder what great argument Jack, who has to be very insecure to attack such a retarded character, will come up with when the "loony nutty far-left" will compare him to Ann Coulter.
Submitted by Thanatos (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:12:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
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Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:57:25 (#)
Ranking: 0
"My point about Sheehan is not that she should have her rights restricted, but that the pres should present the OTHER side of the story and that she sould be ashamed of violating what her son believed in while doing what she is doing 'in his memory.'"
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They do. At least once a week on NPR they interview a family of a fallen solider. The family gets to say whatever they like. More often then not it's that they think the war was a mistake, but they're proud of their son. They're not scripted to say anything.
Also: Everything on foxnews ever.
"My point about the ACLU is that nowhere do they mention that the 'immigrants' were breaking Federal law."
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Who fucking cares?! Are you serious? This is what you stay up worrying about? That the newspaper didn't SAY the illegal immigrants were doing something illegal. The only people who give a shit about this crap are people in southern texas and new mexico. The last poll about illegal immigrants that gallop did showed something like 88% of teh country doesn't give a fuck. Your opinions have been marginalized. Now fuck off.
Wow, welcome to last week. As of a report on NBC news LAST NIGHT, as in 10/25/05, 71% of the US thinks we aren't doing enough to prevent illegal immigration.
Also, that stupid bitch has gone off the deep end. She apparently has been reading too many bat-shit crazy liberal conspiracy nuts.
PS. - Not saying all liberals are retarded, just whichever ones she's been hanging with.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:11:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"Well then. Enjoy your higher medical insurance rates and higher school taxes and higher everything thanks to the financial burden imposed on us by illegals, thanks to moral weaklings like you who are afraid to take a stand on an issue that will have long-lasting effects and can't be bothered to try to correct the situation by simply enforcing the law.
I look forward to your bitching when your cost of living starts spiraling out of control."
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Are you kidding me? Where the hell do you get your info? My cost of living is spiraling out of control because the fucking republican congress doesn't know how to control it's spending, curb malpractice lawsuits, or understand why socialized medicine would actually be CHEAPER for everyone than the bullshit we've got going now.
Furthermore, what fucked up system of ethics do you live by where people born five feet north of the border are any more deserving of medical attention and a living wage then the people born five feet south. Where would you be if the fuckhead puritans denied your great grandparents entry into the country? Get some fucking perspective.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:10:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Nice to see all the negative reviews posting valid arguments in defense of Sheehan.
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I may be deluded and full of impotent rage, but she has the right to defend her beliefs, and loudly if she wants. Bill O'Reilly annoys the fuck out of me, but I'll defend his right to ramble on about her as he undoubtedly does day after day. None of these are my reason for the negative rating. It's because it's old and boring news in my opinion. If a noob posted this, they'd get slaughtered. You're a really good writer and my opinion is that I'd rather read your fiction or a rant on a more interesting subject.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:07:49 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
What is there to say really? Everything has been said. I think Bush is a big, bluthering pussy for being skeered of someone like Cindy Sheehan. He could have headed this whole thing off by talking to her when she was camped out at his ranch where he pretends to be a cowboy. All he did was validate her claims that he is a pussy by hiding from her and further add fuel to the fire of anti-war dissent.
You like football don't you? Have you ever been watching a game and felt a shift in the air and knew, fucking knew that the team that was behind was going to come back and kick ass?
notice anything about the current state of politics that kinda reminds you of that?
just wondering
cause it could be that your head is so far up Bushy's ass that you haven't noticed
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:06:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"We didn't see any extended debates against going to Iraq when it was first proposed"
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Watch c-span some time. There was a good 6 months of debates in the UN. as for the U.S. gov't, of course not, you dumb shit. We had just been attacked by terrorists and they told us we were going to find all sorts of bioterrorist stuff and tons of bombs. There was even mention in Ahmed Chalabi's testimony of buying nuclear bombs from Pakistan. Who the fuck is gonna argue with that?
But now we know that it was a complete falsification. And that you're an ignorant dumbass. If you wanna spout about politcs and current events, you should probably get your news from something other than Rush and Foxnews. Y'know. Just to see what the rest of the country thinks is really going on.
You have been degraded to -2 for being stupid.
Submitted by AshK (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:05:19 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:00:25 (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:31:07 (#)
Ranking: 0
Jack McCallum: Heatwhore
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That is a ridiculous allegation, and using it and the actions of Cindy Sheehan as evidence we clearly see that all women everywhere are deluded and full of impotent rage.
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Why YOU! YOU....you.....yo
oh fuckit, I laughed.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:04:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:57:25 (#)
Ranking: 0
"My point about the ACLU is that nowhere do they mention that the 'immigrants' were breaking Federal law."
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Who fucking cares?! Are you serious? This is what you stay up worrying about? That the newspaper didn't SAY the illegal immigrants were doing something illegal. The only people who give a shit about this crap are people in southern texas and new mexico. The last poll about illegal immigrants that gallop did showed something like 88% of teh country doesn't give a fuck. Your opinions have been marginalized. Now fuck off.
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Well then. Enjoy your higher medical insurance rates and higher school taxes and higher everything thanks to the financial burden imposed on us by illegals, thanks to moral weaklings like you who are afraid to take a stand on an issue that will have long-lasting effects and can't be bothered to try to correct the situation by simply enforcing the law.
I look forward to your bitching when your cost of living starts spiraling out of control.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:03:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Trying to use her as a representation of the 'left' is like me using hitler as a representation of the 'right'.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 17:00:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:31:07 (#)
Ranking: 0
Jack McCallum: Heatwhore
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That is a ridiculous allegation, and using it and the actions of Cindy Sheehan as evidence we clearly see that all women everywhere are deluded and full of impotent rage.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:57:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"My point about Sheehan is not that she should have her rights restricted, but that the pres should present the OTHER side of the story and that she sould be ashamed of violating what her son believed in while doing what she is doing 'in his memory.'"
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They do. At least once a week on NPR they interview a family of a fallen solider. The family gets to say whatever they like. More often then not it's that they think the war was a mistake, but they're proud of their son. They're not scripted to say anything.
Also: Everything on foxnews ever.
"My point about the ACLU is that nowhere do they mention that the 'immigrants' were breaking Federal law."
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Who fucking cares?! Are you serious? This is what you stay up worrying about? That the newspaper didn't SAY the illegal immigrants were doing something illegal. The only people who give a shit about this crap are people in southern texas and new mexico. The last poll about illegal immigrants that gallop did showed something like 88% of teh country doesn't give a fuck. Your opinions have been marginalized. Now fuck off.
Submitted by mbstateside (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:56:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Nuts typo. That was supposed to say "And SHE exercises"
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:53:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:48:04 (#)
Ranking: 0
Ok, here's a justification: Bush sent her son to war on a lie.
What he thought he was fighting for... nope! sorry. lies. Couldn't find any wmd! haha! oopsey! Here, halliburton, have this no-bid government contract to "rebuild" Iraq. And when we say "Iraq" we mean "oil pipelines"
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You mean Bush AND all the Democrats and Republicans who signed off on that action, based on info that America and many other nations believed was true?
We didn't see any extended debates against going to Iraq when it was first proposed
Submitted by mbstateside (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:53:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I'm firmly on the fence on this issue.
Yes she has a right to grieve for her dead son.
Yes she has the right speak out against the government.
And exercises these rights to her hearts content. I just wish she'd exercise her right to make a cohesive, unhypocritical and logical argument.
Submitted by RamJetMax (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:48:35 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Cindy's husband divorced her as soon as her tirade of stupidity started. Then her entire extended family made a statement that they disagree with her actions.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:48:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Ok, here's a justification: Bush sent her son to war on a lie.
What he thought he was fighting for... nope! sorry. lies. Couldn't find any wmd! haha! oopsey! Here, halliburton, have this no-bid government contract to "rebuild" Iraq. And when we say "Iraq" we mean "oil pipelines"
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:46:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:41:52 (#)
Ranking: -1
On the topic of Sheehan, her freedom to be an annoying, opprotunistic loudmouth is the sort of thing you patriot types are supposed to be in support of. It's the American way, right? It's the same freedom that lets the KKK march in black neighborhoods without fear of being attacked. So quit your fucking whining, you fascist.
As for your immigrant complaint, two wrongs don't make a right. Had the man merely point a gun at them and told them to turn around, perhaps your complain would be justified. But the man HELD THEM CAPTIVE FOR SEVERAL DAYS. Just as you can't lock up a burgler in your basement and starve him, we can't lock up illegal immigrants. And on the topic of immigrants, what's your fucking problem? Are you native american? I doubt it. Shut the fuck up.
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My point about Sheehan is not that she should have her rights restricted, but that the pres should present the OTHER side of the story and that she sould be ashamed of violating what her son believed in while doing what she is doing 'in his memory.'
My point about the ACLU is that nowhere do they mention that the 'immigrants' were breaking Federal law.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:43:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Nice to see all the negative reviews posting valid arguments in defense of Sheehan.
Now I understand why we should give her credibility despite her doing something her son would vigorously object to if he could.
Thanks for the clarification.
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:41:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
On the topic of Sheehan, her freedom to be an annoying, opprotunistic loudmouth is the sort of thing you patriot types are supposed to be in support of. It's the American way, right? It's the same freedom that lets the KKK march in black neighborhoods without fear of being attacked. So quit your fucking whining, you fascist.
As for your immigrant complaint, two wrongs don't make a right. Had the man merely point a gun at them and told them to turn around, perhaps your complain would be justified. But the man HELD THEM CAPTIVE FOR SEVERAL DAYS. Just as you can't lock up a burgler in your basement and starve him, we can't lock up illegal immigrants. And on the topic of immigrants, what's your fucking problem? Are you native american? I doubt it. Shut the fuck up.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:40:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:30:08 (#)
Ranking: -2
blah blah blah
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Loki does such an awesome Cindy Sheehan impression she's just been booked on Letterman.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:36:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
Great.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:36:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:28:05 (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:25:11 (#)
Ranking: -2
I have a more pressing question: When will everyone shut the fuck up about her?
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Can I forward that -2 to the New York Times?
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You sound like Bill O'Reilly's parrot, shut the fuck up Jack.
Submitted by RamJetMax (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:32:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Preach on.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:31:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Jack McCallum: Heatwhore
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:30:08 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
blah blah blah
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:28:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:25:11 (#)
Ranking: -2
I have a more pressing question: When will everyone shut the fuck up about her?
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Can I forward that -2 to the New York Times?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:27:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:25:11 (#)
Ranking: -2
I have a more pressing question: When will everyone shut the fuck up about her?
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:25:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I have a more pressing question: When will everyone shut the fuck up about her?
It's her RIGHT to say what she thinks, whether you agree or not. She is an American, and she has the freedom to laude her country or slam it as much as she wants.
This is old.
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-10-26 16:21:22 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Funny how the only use of the word illegal is in describing the American trying to stop yet one more illegal alien from sneaking into the country. Jesus
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Right on.