A Moral dilemma: The Marquee Incident (2470 hits)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (View user info) at 2005-11-16 11:39:21 EST
I didn't really feel like finishing my "Magical Fairy Tale" story. The reviews were tepid at best and, I mean, you all knew where it was headed anyway...confusion, aggravation, forestal rape, and eventual demise.
Therefore, in lieu of a second installment, I would like to share something else with you fine people: A moral dilemma. I promise you that it in no way resembles a long-winded metaphor to your beloved "Ubersite." It is based on an experience I encountered some time ago and I still think about it on occasion. Sort of a "what would YOU do" kind of thing.
A few girls and I went out to a fancy-schmancy club for a friend's birthday party in New York City a little while ago. We got a table with bottle service and agreed on bottle prices with the manager prior to reserving the table. It was also agreed that three of us (including me) would split the final bill on our credit cards (there were 7 of us, but the three closest to the birthday girl wanted to split the bill).
Are you still with me?
Ok, so we get to the club (Marquee, for those wondering. Not a cheap place in any manner. One of those $20 for a Cosmo type clubs) and we make our way to the table. We all have a kick-ass fucking time the entire night. We wound up getting more bottles than expected, but nothing too too outrageous.
The night ended, the bill came, and we split it three ways as planned. The bill seemed a bit low to all of us (though still high in hindsight), but we all signed it anyway, left the waitress a nice tip, and left the club.
About a week later, our waitress from that night at Marquee called me up (she had my cell number because I reserved the table). She told me that she under-charged us for that night and she had to pay the difference out of her pocket. She told me that she had to use all of her tip money to pay back the manager of the club the amount she undercharged us.
In all, she undercharged us EACH $150 (or $450 total, the cost of a bottle of Belvedere Vodka at Marquee. Insane, right?). I was skeptical at first and thought this was all some kind of con. But after looking over my itemized receipt and talking to my friends, I realized she was 100% right. She did, in fact forget to add a bottle to our bill. The girl was practically crying when she asked if we would be so kind as to help her out.
So here was my dilemma: Do I say "HAHA, that sucks for you. You fucked up and I benefited from that. Triple-check your receipts next time" or do I pay up the amount I owed.
On one hand, I was handed a bill, I signed it, and I left. This girl took a full week to call back, admitted her fault, and pleaded that we resolve this. On another, I felt bad. This poor girl from Jersey City (who told me she bussed into the city every other day) lost all of her Saturday Night tip money because of this. Plus, this is a very good bar and I didn't want a bad reputation with the wait staff should I ever want to return.
I eventually made my decision and paid her back. My other friends decided not to.
What would you have done?
User Reviews
Submitted by sizzlemctwizzle (user info) at 2005-11-22 17:58:52 EST (#)
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Damn that's expensive. I dunno.
Submitted by Worm (user info) at 2005-11-21 16:30:42 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Ummm... stop going to pretentious clubs?
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2005-11-18 18:07:14 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-17 10:54:33 (#)
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thank you, captain obvious! ramjet, i know i can buy a bottle at the corner store for $50. but when you go to a bar/lounge/club that has tables and bottle service, it's a known fact that they mark up their bottles to an insane degree. so, my guess is that you've never been to bar before and are ignorant of this. move along now child.
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So you willing drink at establishments with insane markups. Does that make you insane?
Submitted by Oleannder (user info) at 2005-11-18 17:25:14 EST (#)
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I would have paid my portion of what I owed (one third) of the outstanding balance. My friends would have to be responsible for splitting the remaining balance. If they did not pay what they owed then I would not be doing much socializing with them in the future.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-18 15:21:52 EST (#)
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it seems that i'm very hit or miss with you, whiplash
Submitted by Whiplash (user info) at 2005-11-18 15:04:28 EST (#)
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I hate you because you're rich enough to do that but this was well written.
Submitted by nitty34 (user info) at 2005-11-18 14:22:45 EST (#)
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Well done.
I'd have paid her back, too.
I've been there. Bartended. Mischarged. Had to eat it. It blows.
Nice.
Submitted by Balrog (user info) at 2005-11-18 11:12:24 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
-2 for having the money to do that. I'm not bitter I promise.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2005-11-17 14:34:31 EST (#)
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Hoorah.
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2005-11-17 13:43:36 EST (#)
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You've recovered well from a bad start
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-11-17 12:29:08 EST (#)
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If nothing else, we all learned from this post that restaurants and bars charge more than the cost of raw materials for the food and drinks they serve.
I for one feel enlightened.
Now maybe one of you economic masterminds can explain whether it is a good deal or not to pay $1 for a 10oz bottle of diet coke when a 2L bottle is also $1 and yet at room temperature.
so essentially:
(16oz x cold) = (2L x room temperature)
Submitted by MyOwnLittleWorld (user info) at 2005-11-17 12:09:28 EST (#)
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Just out of interest how much of that $450 tip did you guy's leave.
And no i would not have paid it's her mistake
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-17 10:54:33 EST (#)
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thank you, captain obvious! ramjet, i know i can buy a bottle at the corner store for $50. but when you go to a bar/lounge/club that has tables and bottle service, it's a known fact that they mark up their bottles to an insane degree. so, my guess is that you've never been to bar before and are ignorant of this. move along now child.
Submitted by RamJetMax (user info) at 2005-11-17 10:50:01 EST (#)
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$450 for bottle of Belvedere Vodka? You can buy that yourself for less than $50.
Sucker.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2005-11-17 10:24:53 EST (#)
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i'm sorry you mistook my tone for snottiness. it was not supposed to be.
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Alright, fuck it. Here's a benefit of the doubt +2, alter.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-11-17 09:07:34 EST (#)
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Damn you're rich, 450 dollars for a bottle is a lot even in real money.
I wouldn't pay that even if I was loaded, just cos you're stinking isn't any reason to let people rip you off
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-11-17 09:02:19 EST (#)
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Eh, +1 for the post, -1 for having to ask what monkey butlers are.
Monkey...butlers. I think its pretty self explanatory.
And no I wouldn't have paid, its her mistake.
Submitted by JSultan (user info) at 2005-11-17 01:54:09 EST (#)
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I agree with the comment that you should have verified that you were not being had. But anyway, whats $450?
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2005-11-16 23:36:02 EST (#)
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I would've made her dance for it first. Not like a striptease dance or anything. I mean like a monkey dance. Make her feel like a dumb twat, you know?
All in all, it's a step up from your other two. Maybe you're finally starting to get it.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 22:06:09 EST (#)
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I'm ready for your next MORAL DILEMA GoodGirl. I'm bored with this silly one. Now come on, I'm sure you can go a little deeper into your moral closet......something good. Something that is so off the wall it generates 250 hits.
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2005-11-16 19:31:56 EST (#)
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I would have paid her back, but I wouldn't have paid for you selfish friends.
Oh by the way, get better friends.
Submitted by LilBastard (user info) at 2005-11-16 19:22:06 EST (#)
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First off, I would have gotten verification from the manager of the joint that the waitress did indeed undercharge then paid the balance from her gratuity. Not just over the phone either. I'd get it in writing. If it was true then I would reimburse her YOUR 1/3 of the balance and hit the other two up for the rest since the original agreement was that the final tab would be split three ways. If they refuse, I would inform these 'friends' that they will have 2-3 days to reconsider before their contact information is given to the establishment AND the waitress. Yes, she fucked up, but like the rest of us she's also human and if your 'friends' refuse to reimburse her they're not only reneging on the deal but also showing their true colors. On the other hand, if the waitress's story turns out to be false I'd notify first her manager then the police.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 19:13:45 EST (#)
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Scourge, that's just what she told me. she said "i come in every day from jersey city on the bus" to get sympathy from me. most likely, anyway. it was essentially part of her reasoning for why i should pay her the money.
i'm sorry you mistook my tone for snottiness. it was not supposed to be.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2005-11-16 19:05:40 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
+1 for learning to write legibly and using spellcheck.
-2 for having to debate whether or not to be honest
+1 for ponying up
So you would have got a zero, best rating ever from me, but the bussing in from Jersey thing came across as you being a snotty bitch.
Have this -1. Better luck next time. Sorry, bitch.
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-11-16 18:45:25 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 16:17:04 (#)
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and average_dan, i would normally just take the drink orders to bartender and ring up a customer at the end of the night (or whenever they were done). we didn't have an intricate checks and balances system.
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Yes, well, there was an inention made not long ago, so I don't know if you got the email.
IT'S CALLED A FUCKING COMPUTER.
You ring shit up throughout the night, and the "computer" keeps track of it for you. It's particularly nice in situations such as the one your waitress found herself in because IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
I guess the "computer craze" hasn't yet hit the terribly behind times Manhattan.
</blatant sarcasm>
Submitted by Saxon (user info) at 2005-11-16 17:58:28 EST (#)
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Is this an alter?
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-11-16 17:12:43 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 16:17:04 (#)
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well johnnyX, truth is, i have already done much better than mr. toast down there. wtf are personal monkey butlers?
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It's a monkey, who works as a butler, and for you alone - what did you think it was???
He has several, and I saw one in Vegas working for him there...he also owns several islands and a couple of bizjets.
You're a smart girl to not go for an outright purchase however - why not negotiate a lease instead?
The upfront payment won't be as big, but if you set up an amortization schedule, you'll get a large percentage now.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2005-11-16 16:52:37 EST (#)
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Tough shit for her. Out of sight...out of mind...out of here...shit outta luck.
On a side note, was she hot? I think I fucked that stupid bitch in the coat room.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2005-11-16 16:32:52 EST (#)
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laughed down the fucking phone HARD at her. I have no sympathy for the stupid. Mankind is no longer evolving so the only way to selectivly remove the stupid is make sure they kill themselves, in her case she will starve to death for want of money to buy food and we'll ALL be better off. Good riddance.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 16:17:04 EST (#)
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well johnnyX, truth is, i have already done much better than mr. toast down there. wtf are personal monkey butlers?
and average_dan, i would normally just take the drink orders to bartender and ring up a customer at the end of the night (or whenever they were done). we didn't have an intricate checks and balances system.
usually at these tyopes of clubs, you'll have two bartenders and two/three busboys per bar area.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:58:34 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:36:51 (#)
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i'm sorry to disappoint you, mr. toast, but i am not for sale.
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first off, you get an auto +2 for getting Jewtoast to post...secondly, you're not gonna do any better than Jewtoast, I assure you of that...let me lay on you three little words that should seal the deal for you:
PERSONAL
MONKEY
BUTLERS
(can you dig it?)
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:42:44 EST (#)
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I would tell her that you'll pay half of what you owe her. Afterall, it was her mistake. Tell her to get her head out of her ass.
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:26:06 EST (#)
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I'm from Virginia.
At the pub that I work, all of the cocktail waitresses have to ring up what they are going to bring to their tables, then I make it, give it to them, and they deposit the ticket on the rack.
Otherwise, the waitresses would have to come behind the bar and make the drinks themselves, and that just wouldn't work.
I'm quite curious as to how things are done up there, and how bars can stay in business when they have as many people behind the bars, with all the money and temptation, as they feel like having.
Note to self; See how the honor system would work at the pub.
Nah, fuck that I can see it now. Things like what happened to you would happen to everyone, and only the chumps would pay the waitress with the heroin addiction.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:24:12 EST (#)
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+2 for actually paying her back even though she fucked up, -2 for actually needing to contemplate being honest and noticing the bill was probably short without saying anything. your friends are assholes.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:11:04 EST (#)
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That and what loki said.
+1.5.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:10:34 EST (#)
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In all honesty, I would have sat there for a few seconds sulking...
Then I probably would have paid her back. I did waiting and bussing for a short while, and I have to admit it's shitty when people don't appreciate your efforts. Kinda shady that she waited a week, though.
I would ask for a blowjob. Or in your case, a cunnilingus session.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-11-16 15:06:25 EST (#)
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I think you should pay because karma is a bitch.
Submitted by JewToast. (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:59:19 EST (#)
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Thats chump change, I found more than that in my custom made Corinthian leather couch (hand made by Cambodian midgets who were then disposed of into a volcano) last night.
Once I deduct for all her flaws, however, I'll be stuck with an extra $49,999 and nothing to spend it on.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:52:56 EST (#)
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She's high priced. I'm thinking the asking price starts at $50,000???
Submitted by JewToast. (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:44:38 EST (#)
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Hogwash, everyone is for sale, young lady. Even snotty young ladies like yourself who fart sunshine and think that their feces smell like a fresh summer rain.
I have already deducted $12,000 from whatever your asking price is due to your prominently lazy eye. Upon signing the agreement, I will inspect you for any further imperfections (of which there are many, I'm sure; you look like a prime candidate for backne) and will reduce the cost by 1% for each individual flaw.
I humbly await your reply.
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:40:50 EST (#)
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Here's what you should do. Go back to the bar and piss in one of the vodka bottles. Then go order a drink with vodka. Hopefully you'll drink your own piss. Then pay for that drink and tip really well. Then go home and post a story about getting overcharged for your own piss, which is funnier than posting a story that you made up about getting undercharged for drinking something else.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:36:51 EST (#)
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i'm sorry to disappoint you, mr. toast, but i am not for sale.
and average_dan, where are you from? i used to bartend a little in college. we didn't have tables where i worked, so i never had to go through the apparent process of ringing up bottles lke you say. i have had people order drinks and stiff me, though. those people suck!
Submitted by JewToast. (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:33:10 EST (#)
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I would like to purchase you, young lady. I am a rich and powerful Harvard lawyer, and I own several islands. I would love to add you to my collection.
Please forward your asking price to jewtoast.at.gmail.com
Thank you for your time
Cordially Yours,
John Senter
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-11-16 14:11:58 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:46:55 (#)
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Dan, have you worked at bars? how do you now that?
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I'm a bartender.
Submitted by EAZEDZT (user info) at 2005-11-16 13:18:17 EST (#)
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Oh, and to answer I would have paid (only because it was a service/product that I received)
But I would have given her hell.
Set them free for the greater good.
Submitted by SkinnyKenny (user info) at 2005-11-16 13:01:40 EST (#)
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I was recently out at lunch with my boss and co-worker. We were taking the boss out to lunch for a special occasion. As we each kicked in our half, I somehow got screwed up and shorted the server $20. He came back and asked about it, and I said no, it was correct. As we were leaving, I double chacked my wallet and realized my mistake. I could've walked out and duped the guy, but I would have felt like shit. I went back, found him, and gave him the money.
Similar situation, a lot less money, but analogous. I would have paid the girl. Honesty pays in the long run.
Submitted by EAZEDZT (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:59:45 EST (#)
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Well hell if you are an alter your nominated for an Oscar.
If you really a smilin' blonde chick from NYC then you are pretty
well balanced.
Show the puppies !
Submitted by Mike00295 (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:58:45 EST (#)
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Tell your slutty friends to beware the karma anal-rape train.
I have a feeling it will be pulling into their stations soon.
Whores
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:53:25 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:46:55 (#)
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"well, maybe for an hermes! ;) "
Trust me, you don't want Hermes. I had Hermes once and the doctor said it wouldn't go away. Now I have to put this gel stuff on my balls every 24 hours.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:46:55 EST (#)
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Dan, have you worked at bars? how do you now that?
i remember what we ordered and i saw the bar's itemized receipt. a bottle WAS missing from it. i mean, i guess someone COULD have tampered with it, but why go through the trouble of doing that when you make a decent wage anyway? for a prada bag? no. well, maybe for an hermes! ;)
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:42:23 EST (#)
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I'll give you a +1 because you got shafted, and I will tell you why:
When a waitress brings your drinks out to the table a couple of things have to happen first.
1.) She must ring up in a system whatever she needs to bring out to the table. (since this Marquee place is so nice, I can only assume that they have a "modern" [in terms of service industry] system of keeping track of drinks that go out to the service bar.)
2.) The bartender reads the service ticket and puts the drinks onto the service bar where the waitress discards the tickets with all the rest of the service bar tickets that are accounted for at the end of the night.
So you see, if she never rang in the bottle of Vodka, she never would have got it from the bartender. That's how bars don't have typical errors as those we are alledgedly discussing here.
In closing, you just bought your waitress a new prada bag on top of whatever she made of you suckers the rest of the night.
Sorry about your luck.
Submitted by full_frontal (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:39:57 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
EFF THAT! I wouldn't have paid. of course, since i'm famous they wouldn't have even charged me.
had i been a commoner like you are, i would have laughed at her for having the gaul to even call and ask me, then i would have called the manager that charged her for the mess up and asked if it was policy that his waitstaff call patrons to ask for money reguardless of any mistake or who's fault it is bullshit. she would have been fired and the manager would have begged me not to hold it against the establishment.
so -2 for being a push over and paying. its not like she lost a weeks worth of money it was one night and she should check her bills before dropping them. and what type of place leaves it up to the server to write out the bill? they invented these things called computers that do it for you.
Submitted by Ivy (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:39:54 EST (#)
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You're new to NY right? Well, fist off: Marquee is overpriced, overhyped, and pretty dull.
Anyway, consider karma in a situation like this: you piad your share and you're friends didn't. When they lose thier jobs and have to eventually declare bankruptcy they'll be sitting there scratching their heads, crying, "Oh God, why me?!" And you can sit back and bask in the satisfaction of knowing that $150 didn't come back to bite you in the ass.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:34:15 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
"I didn't really feel like finishing my "Magical Fairy Tale" story."
That's ok since I finished it for you. I think you just didn't notice.
"Are you still with me?"
Never were. Just asking this question after the paragraph prior suggests that you think you are writing for an audience of idiots.
You're not a bad writer, it's your subject matter. It sucks.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:27:47 EST (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:23:26 (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:20:36 (#)
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berty and xcuses. two of my favorite people here so far.
i appreciate your honesty, berty.
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I appreciate flattery.
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Flattery will get you almost everywhere
a little head will get you the rest of the way
I'm playing good cop/bad cop, and I'm letting Berty be good cop
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:23:26 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:20:36 (#)
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berty and xcuses. two of my favorite people here so far.
i appreciate your honesty, berty.
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I appreciate flattery.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:22:45 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
The lazy eyed bitch should always have to pay. That would be you.
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:22:41 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:20:36 (#)
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berty and xcuses. two of my favorite people here so far.
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You heartless bitch! *runs away crying*
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:20:36 EST (#)
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berty and xcuses. two of my favorite people here so far.
i appreciate your honesty, berty.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:17:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:05:54 (#)
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Berty, i'm going to be as honest as possible with you. i am normally NOT a bitch. BUt if you push my buttons enough, i can mostcertainly turn into one. i typpically like to give people the benefit of the doubt from the get-go and start people off with a clean slate. That's whymy intial response to "Ubersite's" welcome-wagon took me by such surprise. I never expected people could be so mean to someone they didn't even know.
but as "Foonbo" said somewhere, i'm starting to learn what and how to write postings here.
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Respect is something that must be earnt. If you see people laughing at stuff that they'd shout you down for it's because they have spent months, sometimes years, establishing their views, their personalities and their sensibilities.
I don't know you. I don't know who you are. I don't even know if you are a real person or some charicature created by another user.
I've been surprised in the past by people I have thought of as cruel and unfeeling showing magnificent compassion. I have been sickened by vile displays from people who had portrayed themselves as gratious and kind.
Now I know that you are intelligent and I know that you are witty. That is all I know about you, but you reveal more (we all reveal more) with every keystroke we make. Every sentance, regardless of it's subject, gives away little pieces of who we are and how we feel.
So I will be watching you and judging you, just as you will be watching and judging me.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:13:39 EST (#)
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Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:08:32 (#)
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Berty- until I see a picture of her with a sign that says I'm a Uber user, I'll always think ALTER
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i concur.
think college humor style.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:13:29 EST (#)
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xcuses, do you think i'd actually do that?
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:08:32 EST (#)
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Berty- until I see a picture of her with a sign that says I'm a Uber user, I'll always think ALTER
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:07:58 EST (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:46:24 (#)
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*scratches head*
Well here's the thing. She makes $150 dollars a night in tips. She lost a nights tips because she fucked up and also that the management has a rather draconian policy towards its staff. Or perhaps just her, maybe she's a natural fuck up. Who knows.
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That's actually the policy at most bars and restaurants, draconian or not. In fact, most places will make the server pay even if the customer out-right skips out on the check.
I would have paid up if I were in your (GoodGirl's) shoes--it sounds like you're doing alright financially, so why make the server suffer. It's called doing the right thing, good karma, etc. etc. Plus, it would probably guarantee that you would receive stellar service there in the future.
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:06:05 EST (#)
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she made $450 tip in a night ? shes doing okay for herself and should have just taken the hit.
swings and roundabouts like
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:05:54 EST (#)
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Berty, i'm going to be as honest as possible with you. i am normally NOT a bitch. BUt if you push my buttons enough, i can mostcertainly turn into one. i typpically like to give people the benefit of the doubt from the get-go and start people off with a clean slate. That's whymy intial response to "Ubersite's" welcome-wagon took me by such surprise. I never expected people could be so mean to someone they didn't even know.
but as "Foonbo" said somewhere, i'm starting to learn what and how to write postings here.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:05:29 EST (#)
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Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:56:57 (#)
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aww, randomhero, i though we were becoming friends! :(
that's just what a top-shelf liquor costs at a fancy club in new york. don't blame me. well, blame me for being dumb enough to pay those prices, but not for the prices themselves.
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Oh no. No one is responsible for those prices! Fuck, they just fell out of mid-air. It's not like you're part of the demand that allows for a sky-high equillibrium. You going to the club has absolutely nothing to do with why it's there and why the prices are so high.
You go to the club; the club sells you something in return for your money; the club uses your money to continue being that club. They also notice that you're willing to pay those prices, so they will continue the price, if not raise them even higher. You're no spectator in capitalism ma'am.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:04:26 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
If i were you...I would have gone to the liquor store, paid $50 for the same bottle, then brought that into her and accepted her appology. then i would have admitted i am an alter to ubersite.
Submitted by ruthless (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:03:03 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I like that you aren't letting anyone get under your skin.
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:02:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:56:57 (#)
Ranking: 0
aww, randomhero, i though we were becoming friends! :(
that's just what a top-shelf liquor costs at a fancy club in new york. don't blame me. well, blame me for being dumb enough to pay those prices, but not for the prices themselves.
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You mean we're not friends?!? *Emo teaR*
I'm all about the "tough love". I just can't believe you paid that.
Xcuses; however, is all about the "rough love".
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 12:01:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
I'm still trying to decide if you're some sort of bitch or not. Can you do a ficticious story about human feeling or something so I can judge you?
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:59:26 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:54:22 (
Xcuses, if you ever saw me naked (and "if" in this case does not mean you have a chance to, it is simply the only preposition that works here), i think you'd like what you saw. I'm just conceited that way.
you are such a flirt!
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Don't worry, I'll get you naked all in due time.
and yes, I am a flirt, a big flirt
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:58:00 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
well, how's it going Sugar- Momma?
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:57:00 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Here's another -2... just cause.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:56:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
aww, randomhero, i though we were becoming friends! :(
that's just what a top-shelf liquor costs at a fancy club in new york. don't blame me. well, blame me for being dumb enough to pay those prices, but not for the prices themselves.
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:54:57 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I just noticed how much you spent on ONE bottle there.
Are you fucking kidding me? Here's a -2...
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:54:22 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Foonbo, baby-steps, right?
Xcuses, if you ever saw me naked (and "if" in this case does not mean you have a chance to, it is simply the only preposition that works here), i think you'd like what you saw. I'm just conceited that way.
you are such a flirt!
Submitted by rayrayshanaynay (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:53:39 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Wow, your friends weren't very considerate. The server made a mistake and probably had to be talked into calling you and pleading for her money by one of her friends. I doubt it's what she wanted to do.
Bottom line is that you all ordered it, you should all pay for it.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:51:46 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I wouldn't have spent that much in the first place. I'm the homeless bum you gals trotted past on your way to the club without even looking at twice. What a "moral" problem you're faced with. I'm only starving while you have the reserves to throw money away at the people who need it least.
Fuck you.
Submitted by leilani (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:51:32 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
i would pay, after thoroughly checking to make sure she wasn't trying to put one over on my friends and me.
as for your friends-- they shouldn't be going to marquee in the first place if they are too cheap to pay for the bottles-- there are plenty of cheaper places to go in nyc.
Submitted by Adereterial (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:50:43 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Personally, I'd let her suffer. She made the mistake and she has to learn from it - she'll never do it again.
However, if you really want to pay her, or feel like you should, split it with her - I'd say 70/30 with her paying the majority. She should know better than not to check her receipts and there should be some penalty for her, but if you want to be nice, there is that option.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:50:32 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Foonbo (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:46:45 (#)
Ranking: 0
This story sucked, but at least you're kinda learning what this place is about. Keep trying.
P.S. I've worked various service jobs, and every one of your friends who didn't pay is a flying cunt.
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This may be a 'lost in translation' moment here, but where do you get off demanding a tip for your services? I'm glad you went on to get a real job but it's unfortunate you kept your whiney, 'I demand to be carried' attitude with you.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:48:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I'd pay to see you naked...
but would demand a refund if I didn't like what I saw
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:47:31 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Sorry, that meant to read $450 dollars a night in tips.
Jesus, if she rang me I'd probably ending up asking her for money.
Submitted by Foonbo (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:46:45 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
This story sucked, but at least you're kinda learning what this place is about. Keep trying.
P.S. I've worked various service jobs, and every one of your friends who didn't pay is a flying cunt.
Submitted by randomhero83 (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:46:41 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
I would have bent you over and...
Oh, sorry, didn't read the question.
Yeah, the right thing to do is pay. Your friends are bitches. Find new ones.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:46:24 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
*scratches head*
Well here's the thing. She makes $150 dollars a night in tips. She lost a nights tips because she fucked up and also that the management has a rather draconian policy towards its staff. Or perhaps just her, maybe she's a natural fuck up. Who knows.
Anyway, that she would ring me up and emotionally blackmail me like that over a nights tips is pretty rotton.
Nah, I wouldn't have paid the money. Bearing in mind that $450 dollars is a lot of money to a po' negroe like myself.
Submitted by GoodGirl (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:45:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
one of my friends made the argument that since this girl took a full 7 days to get back to us on this, not only did she mess up , but she was also lazy in getting her money back, and decided not to pay.
Submitted by morontian (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:43:01 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Definitely pay.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-11-16 11:42:05 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I probably would pay, just because it's better than the guilt of this poor sappy girl who fucked herself that night. Of course if the service sucked, I wouldn't pay.