Click here to return to the list of messages.

The European Union (2251 hits)

Category: Politics

Rating: -0.11 on 70 reviews (Rate this item) (V)

Submitted by <WolvesInTheValley.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2003-05-27 20:35:56 EDT

The European Union is on the verge of expansion to include a plethora of industrial East European countries including Yidele's homeland. The possiblilty of a federal union, creating a United States of Europe looms ominously on the horizon. The complexity of the system makes it difficult for many people to decipher the pros and cons of Brussels's gradually increasing power. The result of this is that people either have no opinion or an ignorant opinion, one that is usually based on fear: either a fear of 'missing out' by not jumping on the European bandwagon or fear that their own countries power will become subordinate to that of Brussels, and their culture will be lost to some sort of European uniformity.

For Britain, further involvement with the EU would mean comprimising the relationship with Washington. So far, Britain has succesfully kept a foot in both camps, staying somewhat detached by negotiating an opt-out of the single European currency under John Major. This half in - half out policy cannot continue indefinitely, and the European constution being considered by France, Germany and their lacky allies would force all member states to make up their minds as to whether they are fully commited or not.

Im sure it didn't escape any of my fellow Europeans' attentions that Britain scored a zero in the Eurovision Song Contest, a clear message from mainland Europe demonstrating just how deeply anti-anglo they have become since she allied with the USA over the Iraqi war. They view Britain as arrogant, and the anti-Americanism of the French transfers to an anti-British sentiment among European nation states. If given an ultimatum, it would be wise for Britain to jump out of this sinking ship rather while we have the chance.

I haven't met anyone astute enough to challenge this theory.

User Reviews

Submitted by nrduncan (user info) at 2005-03-28 13:00:59 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/463c5922

Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-03-14 17:17:47 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

My results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%)
2. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (98%)
3. Cobb, David - Green Party (97%)
4. Nader, Ralph - Independent (97%)
5. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (89%)
6. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (81%)
7. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (80%)
8. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (79%)
9. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (76%)
10. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (73%)
11. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (70%)
12. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (59%)
13. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (58%)
14. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (46%)
15. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (32%)
16. Bush, President George W. - Republican (14%)
17. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (12%)
18. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (12%)

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 21:14:20 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Buddy, stop being such a stubborn prick and just read the damn link.

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 21:10:24 EST (#)
Ranking: 1

"Islam's goal is to dominate the globe"

Jesus Christ Stabkill.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 21:07:52 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

And the reports of Osama bin Laden saying he did it? Witnesses saying he held up fingers saying how many crashes there would be before they happened.... Fake.

Phone calls describing the terrorists from passengers who are now dead: Fake.

That is ridiculous. And people who believe in these stories wonder why people do not believe in ANYTHING they say even when they have valid points?

You are an anarchist anti-government type of person, no question about it.

The fact is, the government is incompetent and cannot do even a fraction of what conspiracy theorists believe.

Maybe that's why you hate the state of Israel? Because they manage to actually do some wicked things like hunt down and kill terrorists and ex-nazis years after the fact.

So I believe Israel shouldn't get a dime of US "aid" money and I'd guess you would have to agree.

But you think the muslims and spread of Islamic theocracies is not a potential future threat, and I do.

My view is this: Israel isn't going to nuke America. Iran? Yeah...I wouldn't want those guys to get their hands on nuclear weapons anytime soon.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 20:49:59 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

I don't know how you can dismiss things without first looking at the case being made, if you think it's far fetched that a nation state could achieve the terrorism of 911, how much more far fetched is it to beleive that 19 guys somehow did it? Somehow made the whole north east air defense stand down while they went on a joy ride in american airspace for a full hour. Youre right, the government IS fucking stupid, that's why ordinary people on the internet have been able to pick so many huge holes in the official story. There's even a whole thing going on called the 911 Truth Movement, headed by some really top class analysts and experts.

Scroll down to where it says in red 'The United States Government Committed the September 11 Attacks' and read the eleven points, if this doesn't at least open your mind a bit I give up. http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/AmericanStateTerrorism.html

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 20:27:03 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

The whole point of libertarianism is to reign in government and maximise individual freedom, no libertarian worth his salt trusts the monster that the government has become. Surely even you can see that the media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the government, covering up government crime and brainwashing the sheep with endless propaganda. The reason there are 'conspiracies' is that powerful people conspire to do evil things and then cover them up with the aid of media whores. The moral justifications of the foriegn policy are there because if the spokesmen said told the truth nobody would support them

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#1: That website is a forum, which gets everyone from fucking 10 year olds to neo-nazis on it.

A libertarian should not be concerned with what happens in Israel unless they LIVE there. Right? How does that affect America? We give them billions, and get nothing but a shitstorm back. This will not end if we stop aid. Islam's goal is to dominate the globe, and this is my only concern with the religion as the other post says.

As far as the media being a "propaganda arm of the government" is ridiculous. That is conspiracy bullshit right there... The media is flawed, alright. But it isn't due to the government. It is about making money and ratings.

The fact is, the media hasn't become a place to investigate the government because people don't give a shit. Well, perhaps after finding stuff out and having nothing change might help that along. So the media shows tapes of Marion Berry smoking crack, and Washington DC re-elects him. Average people are idiots and the media plays to these idiots.

They make money off big-business showing ads on TV, right? So how is NBC supposed to bash GM's plant pouring pollution into rivers at an alarming rate when exposing this will hurt their bottom end? Government regulation does nothing to help or harm this.

Now you got the FCC and its morality police, but these are minor issues often blown out of proportion. Sure, the FCC sucks but showing a boob on TV or not is minor in comparison to the serious things that we face.

You are right about the libertarians wanting to maximize freedom and reign in government (by decreasing its size and influence). You want to ask me if I agree with the billions in aid going to Israel? I'd say fuck no. They shouldn't get a dime. I would hope that is one thing you can agree on there. I do believe that no nation should live off the wealth of America while we have our own people struggling to survive. It is ridiculous how people can stand for this.

And AIDS? What is your opinion on that issue. I think we should not give one damn dime to the cause. AIDS is preventable. Why waste millions of dollars in fighting a preventable disease?

I can see your point on a few issues, but I do not believe in this mass conspiracy theories many people claim. The government is too stupid to manage to do some of the elaborate scams on mankind some people think. It is often quite simple, and you should know...it all comes down to dollars.

So maybe you lean anarchist and I lean conservative in terms of libertarianism. I agree with 95% of what the American libertarian party supports. In terms of world libertarianism, I don't give a fuck. That's anarchy as far as I'm concerned.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 20:09:34 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Williamson, you are right. You will not convince me. Nor, for that matter, will any muslim preaching that his religion is "peaceful".

There are parts of the bible which speaks of beating children to keep them in line as well as condoning slavery. This is fact.

There are parts of the Koran that are equally as flawed, yet there are many followers who believe in every word in that book.

So you get 1) Extremists (who manage to bully their way in and take charge) and 2) followers who claim "peaceful religion" when it is a lie.

I'm not saying all muslims are evil, but if were to come down to "them or us" I'll most certainly pick "US". And I don't believe alot of liberal democrats (Americans) would be willing to do this.

What I cannot comprehend is how liberals despise christians; And they would piss their pants if they saw a nativity scene in a public school. But they support regimes like Iran.

I know the USA shouldn't press their will onto all nations of the world, even if some in government try. I do not approve of this... But theocracies are dangerous, and Islam has little room for separation of government and church. This can only lead to one path...

It makes me wonder, who here supports muslims that actually KNOWS a muslim? Do they discuss issues with them? Why not ask them, "Would you like to see the entire world udner Islam?" And they will say yes. If they don't, they are betraying the quran. Sure, a christian may say the same thing. Now lets use a little common sense and compare:

Christian World Vs. Muslim world. Let's call it "USA Vs. IRAN" If you choose Iran, I think you are a fool and why would I bother talking to a fool?

If Islam can pass this violent no-tolerance phase, maybe it can coexist with the rest of the world. However there is no question that it is a threat right now. If you cannot recognize this, quite honestly I think you are either lying to yourself or you are ignorant. Democracy spreading through the middle east will change these views 1000000000% and make my arguement mute.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 20:00:29 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:44:17 (#)
Ranking: -2

Hmmmm... I thought you were starting to sound like an Anti-government anarchist and there you go starting to sound like a liberal democrat again.
--------------------------------------------------------------

.... I didn't say anything, what are you talking to the vioces in your head again?

The whole point of libertarianism is to reign in government and maximise individual freedom, no libertarian worth his salt trusts the monster that the government has become. Surely even you can see that the media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the government, covering up government crime and brainwashing the sheep with endless propaganda. The reason there are 'conspiracies' is that powerful people conspire to do evil things and then cover them up with the aid of media whores. The moral justifications of the foriegn policy are there because if the spokesmen said told the truth nobody would support them.

Libertarians are usually anti-zionist, as you can see on the huge libertarian forum. http://www.libertyforum.org/dosearch.php?Cat=&Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Old=1day

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:53:03 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Stabkill. All your arguments against Islam are based on 19 guys smacking themselves into a couple of buildings. Is that how you judge 1,480,000,000 people? Even with the bombers of Jewish buses and members of AlQaeda and attackers of Bali night clubs, the number is in the tens of thousands at most.

There are nutball right-wing Christians too.

Sure, the concept of Jihad (which means struggle) allows for Muslims to defend themselves and attack their enemies, but the concept of "love thy neighbour" didn't really stop the crusades going ahead, did it? Christians are dangerous too.

We're all equally fucked in the head, and i don't think the Musos are any crazier than we are.

I'm never going to convince you otherwise though. And you won't ever sway me. So why do i bother? I'm probably just bored.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:44:17 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Hmmmm... I thought you were starting to sound like an Anti-government anarchist and there you go starting to sound like a liberal democrat again.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:38:49 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

You are a liar, Jimmy. Flat out... no question about it. Why all the conspiracy theory websites in your responses? Why all the hatred toward jews? Why exactly do you hate "zionists"?

I can tell you why I dislike Islam...because the religion is flawed. I'm not saying it is worse than Christianity. Actually, it is very much the same. But it is like Christianity back in the Spanish Inquisition days. And unless the leaders of the church denounce violence (which they have a hard time doing because denouncing violence against non-muslims is un-islamic) this will continue.

And maybe you can sit there and feel sorry for them, being the jackass you are.

Where are you from, Jimmy? Eh? Canada? France? Massachusetts? California?

You are libertarian as much as much as Paul Rueubens is a heavyweight boxing champion.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:33:50 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

I think you are joking, no human being could be this stupid.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:30:08 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

One thing I know that Jimmy doesn't is that people who believe in tons of conspiracy theories tend to be anti-government. I am probably wrong in calling Jimmy a socialist. He's probably an anarchist.

Libertarians trust business to do the right thing because they have faith in what is basically Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations type of theories. Jimmy, since he is a conspiracy theorist, cannot trust government or business. He doesn't trust people in general. He's a fucking anti-government anarchist.

So what is it, Jimmy? Are you going to admit you are an anarchist?

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:26:17 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

I'll never agree with Williamson on politics. But at least he admits something you don't, Jimmy.

He took the quiz and said the truth... He isn't a liar.

While he may disagree with everything I say and I disagree with everything he says in terms of politics, I can respect him for at least being true to himself.

Jimmy, on the other hand, you are a lying dickhead.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:23:21 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Jimmy, you are the jackass as the "rinky dink" test you like to insult...as calling something "rinky dink" isn't exactly postive...IS A TEST MADE BY LIBERTARIANS.

I think you are liar. There are other libertarians on ubersite I get along with just great... but you I don't. Why is that?

I'll tell you why...You're a lying sack of shit. You are a moronic lying rat-bastard. You are a liar. How many times can I say it? Jimmy is a fucking liar.

You spew links to conspiracy sites time in and time out. It gets tiring. You believe that shit. You're a fucking moron.

And the fact I recognize the threat posed by Islam makes you mad....You fucking hate it. You are a lying anti-JEWISH liberal socialist fucking asshole. I do not believe you and never will.

The fact is this : ZIONISM --A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

To be anti-zionist, you would basically have the same views as the Syrians and Iranians as well as every terror organization in the region. You ally yourself with terrorists, Jimmy.

And you are a hypocrite. If you are anti-zionist like "millions of other jews" as you ridiculously claim, you should also believe the United States should give authority over its land back to the natives. Do you believe this? Because how can you believe one and not the other?

Zionists are jews who want Israel to be a homeland for Jews. This pretty much would apply to most of the people living in Israel. If you find an Israeli who would say, "Sure. I'll stay here with palastinians in charge of the land." Then they would not be zionist...and they would also be dead because Arabs hate jews as much as Nazis did.

I think you are a sack of shit, Jimmy. You are a liar. Lying fucking moron. (Lets see what president came out on top of your quiz list.... well? How many times did you have to take it to achieve the results for you to show me that you are a libertarian?)

Face it, Jimmy. You are a socialist fucking liberal dickhead.

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:21:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:39:24 (#)
Ranking: -2

http://selectsmart.com/president/

----------------------
Williamson's Candidates:

1. Cobb, David - Green Party (72%)
2. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (72%)
3. Nader, Ralph - Independent (66%)
4. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (63%)
5. Brown, Walt - Socialist Party (61%)
6. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (58%)
7. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (52%)
8. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (51%)
9. Gephardt, Rep. Dick, MO - Democrat (51%)
10. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol, IL - Democrat (50%)
11. Clark, Retired General Wesley K., AR - Democrat (48%)
12. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (47%)
13. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (36%)
14. Badnarik, Michael - Libertarian (26%)
15. Peroutka, Michael - Constitution Party (23%)
16. Hagelin, Dr. John - Natural Law (22%)
17. Bush, President George W. - Republican (17%)

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:07:18 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:02:14 (#)
Ranking: 0

Williamson, believe me you don't want that to happen, if you want to see what happens when power is centralised just look at the the US.

shitStab you belligerent knuckle head, lets have a quick rundown of your idiocy -

you criticise me for hating a whole religion: in fact I hate zionists, as do millions of jews.

On the other hand you have a whole post dedicated to your rabinous hatred of islam, as well as numerous disgusting comments you have made.

So to review - you accuse me of hating a whole religion, in fact you do. Well done retard. You hate over a billion people on earth based and their religion. Apart from many other things, you are a hipocrite.

Your rinky dink test confirms that I'm a libertarian, which was never actually in doubt, except in your mind because you are mentaly disturbed.

There is an ideology that encompasses the warfare state you in fact support, and that is Fascism.

In closing, suck my balls
----------------------------------------
I never said I did want it to happen. I just said it will (at least from my reckoning).

+2 cause you're anti-zionistic.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 19:02:14 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Williamson, believe me you don't want that to happen, if you want to see what happens when power is centralised just look at the the US.

shitStab you belligerent knuckle head, lets have a quick rundown of your idiocy -

you criticise me for hating a whole religion: in fact I hate zionists, as do millions of jews.

On the other hand you have a whole post dedicated to your rabinous hatred of islam, as well as numerous disgusting comments you have made.

So to review - you accuse me of hating a whole religion, in fact you do. Well done retard. You hate over a billion people on earth based and their religion. Apart from many other things, you are a hipocrite.

Your rinky dink test confirms that I'm a libertarian, which was never actually in doubt, except in your mind because you are mentaly disturbed.

There is an ideology that encompasses the warfare state you in fact support, and that is Fascism.

In closing, suck my balls.

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:54:22 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:39:24 (#)
Ranking: -2

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

-------------------------
Williamson = Leftist Statist

Coming from a socialist this is pretty accurate.

Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:48:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

The German states were once seperate nations. As were the Italians. And Eastern Europe was a jigsaw of little principalities at one point. But they all joined to create modern nations and these nations will soon join a greater power.

You Americans were once more proud of your individual states than your nation. The same will happen to Europeans in time.

+2 cause I thought i was the only one who deciphered international public relations through song and dance competitions.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:39:24 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Jimmy = Fuckface jew hating cocksucking inbred fag.

You are a dickless moron, Jimmy.

Are you in the United States? Why don't you take the political quiz they have on the site:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

I bet you show up on the liberal side of things. Or try a longer, more accurate quiz:

http://selectsmart.com/president/

Take that test and see who comes out on top of you quiz, you lying stupid sack of shit.

Maybe you are not American and libertarian in your country means jew-hating anarchist asshole.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:34:15 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

You are a lying shitbag, moron. You are a socialist which is far from libertarian values.

I hope you get cancer, Jimmy.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-07 18:19:59 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

shitStab, the fundamental principle of libertarianism is non-coercion. You keep shouting about being a libertarian yet you aren't aware of the most elementary thing, as demonstrated by your cheerleading war. You are a 5 star clown and I will let you know it whenever i see you around pal.

Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-03-07 17:52:33 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

I'm libertarian you jew-hating, communist, muslim-loving fuckhead.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-02 14:21:32 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

What an elaborately backhanded compliment, zut alors

Submitted by Val (user info) at 2005-03-01 20:47:41 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Well you still suck and all. But only one other person I've spoken to actually knows about the EU, which leads me to believe, though probably falsely, that you are zomewhat intellignet, and not just a damn fine moron.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-03-01 20:27:42 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

My first ever +2! I will cherish this moment

Submitted by Val (user info) at 2005-03-01 20:16:22 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

+2, because Cyprus is part of the EU, and Cyprus rules.

Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-03-01 09:05:46 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Fuck you

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-02-18 03:58:43 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

I SAID EUROPE WAS THE SINKING SHIP WITH ANTI BRITISH SENTIMENT MORON

Submitted by the_mysterious_stranger (user info) at 2005-02-17 17:06:38 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

Anti-British sentiment? Are you retarded? Do you even fucking live here?
Europe is the sinking ship, not the US. Demographically, we are in such a poor position that social services will crumble by 2050, and no immigration will be able to stop this trend. The average german woman now has only 1.3 children (US: about 2.5), and the rest of Europe doesn't look much better.

Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2005-02-11 12:49:54 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

No Comment

Submitted by BludKake (user info) at 2005-01-26 16:33:46 EST (#)
Ranking: 1

Just for you JimJim:

http://www.ubersite.com/cgi-bin/message_get.cgi?message=1106775081448829396

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-01-25 18:34:40 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Look you flabby fucking nerd, nevermind your opinions, nevermind your conjecture, nevermind your little tidbits about the ozone layer problem, nevermind alerting me to my fucking typos, i don't want to read anymore of your prattle unless you have some FACTS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING, or if you can dispute the facts I uncovered.

Better yet answer this question, simple enough for a peon such as yourself:
What are the exact consequences of the world temperature rising?
Keeping in mind the fact that earth is overdue an ice age, and that a few centuries ago england was warm enough for the proliferation of vineyards, with no adverse effect.

Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-01-25 09:08:35 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

Great, up to the point where you destroyed all your credibility by saying the words "eurovision song contest".

I'm only sort of joking.

Submitted by BludKake (user info) at 2005-01-25 08:59:44 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Alright, JimJim, two suggestions: they're spelled "believe" and "analogy." And, as to your earlier criticism, I used the word "dude" twice in two sentences, not in one. I'm also hold my Bachelor's in Chemistry; though I work an easy job in a lab. I guess that's too "elementary" for you. My guess is that you are a pHD working for the Bush administration, with all kinds of facts and figures to back your opinion up. I'm sure you've studied at Harvard and Yale and I and billions of others are mistaken in our assumption that us six billion humans are shitting out millions of tons of pollutants a year. Sigh, I guess it's all in my head. You've converted me JimJim. I now believe that we should chop down all the trees and continue to perpetuate third-world starvation and poverty, all the while polluting our breathing air. Those UV radiation and pollution alert systems in Southern California and the Mexico City Valley are just a ploy to create hippie tree-huggers. Goddamn hippies. So many hippies. The 100 year half-life of certain free radicals, such as the nitrosyl radical, which can create thousands more ozone-damaging free radicals before escaping the atmosphere, are not our concern. Seriously, your brief blurb about these vague "facts and figures" is enough to convert me. I hate the Earth and I think we should go on polluting and mining and destroying and dominating. Maybe someday we can destroy the Earth forever, creating a Grey Molecular Goo (I don't expect you to be familiar with the theory surrounding this simple phrase, FACTMAN)! That would be great. I think I'm going to go buy a HumVee. Oh and Dude? After having stuck my head in my ass about the environment, following your lead and all, I don't think I ever want to leave. And who cares about ozone depletion? There is plenty of methane in my colon to breath (refer to earlier tent analogy).
I'm done clogging this post. By the by, JimJim, try reading a little science if you want to talk science and stay away from the opinion columns. Fucking dickmitten.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-01-24 18:44:00 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Yeah i can't beleive I was basing my opinion on facts and figures, it was just waiting for someone to come along and blow that out of the water with a childish analoogy about tents. And to think, it was so obvious that someone lacking even elementary knowledge of science could come up with it.

Submitted by BludKake (user info) at 2005-01-24 16:07:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Oh yeah, JimJim, I read that piece of shit article. It's opinion: the old Economy vs. The Environment argument. And sure, fucking Bill Gates and Trump and all of their Senate bitches can find any number of justifications to fuck the planet for money, including misleading fucksocks like yourself.
Dude.

Submitted by BludKake (user info) at 2005-01-24 16:04:22 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Awww, does Jimmy have some sand in his vagina? Sorry to frustrate you by pointing out your utter lack of knowledge, dude. And dude, this isn't the New York Times, so I'll say dude as much as I feel the need. And where the hell's my picture??

Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-01-24 13:30:15 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

"The EU is just a mean for France to regain the status it had in 1805 has the first nation" - Général Charles De Gaulles (this quote isn't exact but it's pretty much what he said)

Further proof that the EU is not really in the best interests of the Brits.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-01-24 13:29:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 2

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone who says 'dude' twice in a three word sentenc, i can't be bothered with you stubborn idiots anymore, just read the bloody article, woody did and he pretty much shut the hell up. Symbollic plus 2 for me.

Submitted by Bizdorph (user info) at 2005-01-24 13:24:12 EST (#)
Ranking: 1

I don't understand enough about the Union to argue this, so here's a +1 for effort.

Submitted by BludKake (user info) at 2005-01-24 13:18:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Dude, Jimmy. Dude. Can you send me a picture of yourself? I would love to view a digitally unenhanced photo of someone with their actual head up their actual ass. DCWoody is not a fucking idiot, you are, you fucking idiot. Since you obviously have no grasp of science, here's a simple experiment for you: Go eat a can of baked beans and then pitch a tent in your backyard. Climb inside and zip it up. See how long you can stand your own farts before wanting to get out.
This experiment should acquaint you with the concept of global warming and pollution, and in a simple and unscientific format for easy understanding. Those millions of gallons of oil that we combust everyday? Yeah, they don't just magically disappear; they become trapped in a "tent" known as our "atmosphere," akin to the tent that you will be farting in. I suspect, dude, that you are afraid to admit that the shit we spew out everyday doesn't get ferried off to Neverland by pan-dimensional gnomes. Sigh; ignorance does breed fear, alas.
Oh yeah, when can I get that photo?

Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-01-17 14:50:09 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

3. Volcanoes - "The eruption of Mt. St. Helens in 1980 dumped more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than all that has been released since the industrial revolution. Volcanoes have been erupting for millions of years with the same result. If this really affected climate, don't you think it would have happened by now?" Dixie Lee Ray, 'Trashing the Planet' If you disagree
mr geology take it up with her

Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit BullshitBullshit BullshitBULLSHIT
I definately dissagree with her and if I saw her and knew who she was I'd lay the bitch out for misleading people like you.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-01-16 20:18:07 EST (#)
Ranking: 0

Hey woody, i like making lists too

1. You are a fucking idiot
2. Only 5% of fuel burnt in human history thus far was burnt before 1950, yet the temperature change occured between the 19th century and the 1940's
2. The earth climate is in constant state of fluctuation, hottest decade bla bla in your country is irrelevant- the GLOBAL mean temperature is 0.5 higher than last century
3. Volcanoes - "The eruption of Mt. St. Helens in 1980 dumped more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than all that has been released since the industrial revolution. Volcanoes have been erupting for millions of years with the same result. If this really affected climate, don't you think it would have happened by now?" Dixie Lee Ray, 'Trashing the Planet' If you disagree
mr geology take it up with her
4. "the majority of scientists do support global warming"
Oh yeah? Must be convinient for you having personal correspondence with all those top scientist to find this out. Newsflash: you are a schmuck. You don't know what "the majority of scientists" think.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcmaken/mcmaken55.html

Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-01-16 18:35:50 EST (#)
Ranking: -1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2005-01-13 18:48:08 (#)
Ranking: 0

Global warming is a hoax. The world got warmer in the first half of the 20th century, then stabilised. 93% of fuel burned in history - after 1950. The ice caps are melting but thats how long it took for the warm up to take effect. It wasn't caused by human activity. One volcano erruption throws more of that stuff into the atmosphere than everything we've done since indust revolution. Alot of people make money from this hoax. Majority of scientists do not support it, just a very vocal minority.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You put this on my post, do you realise how stupid it is?

1. Who is hoaxing the world about global warming?
2. the 1990's was the warmest decade since records began, and the 2000's are on track to be warmer.
3. What do you mean 93% burnt in history after 1950? when does this history end? 2000? last week? you aren't very clear at all.
4.I have a geology degree and that volcano thing is very very wrong, unless you're refering to a 'super-volcano' the most recent eruption of which was 600,000years ago
5. Who the fuck makes money out of it?
6. the majority of scientists do support global warming and the only ones I've ever heard say otherwise are almost exclusively american and all employed by big business.

Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2005-01-15 12:38:01 EST (#)
Ranking: -2

I didn't say it was bullshit. There's your picture you incomprehensible ballbag.

http://goat.cx

Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2004-09-03 12:22:14 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

While many of London's new homeless are polish, I have little dubt but that they will soon enough be your inlaws. Family chat aside, UK building contractors are keen to hire cheap labour as are farms and that is where some of these folks are finding employment, as to the rest, let the dumbasses perish.

In any event, your visions of doom and gloom aren't coming true and 1) the Euro is stil strong 2) the economy of Poland is growing quite nicely. As to the EU powerbalance, it isn't nearly as inscrutable an issue as you make it out. To put it succintly, the old EU countries pretend to be horrified at the "savages" while trying desperately to maximize their market share in East-central europe, which welcomes your invested euro, but for the most part supports american foreign policy. I know this makes the french and germans hopping mad, but then I never did much like the french and as to germans, they really can go fuck themselves as far as foreign policy is concerned.

Rover is negotiating the purchase of FSO, poland's largest car maker ( currently producing daewoo, formerly fiat). The largest retail supermarkets in Poland are french: Auchan, Carrefour, Geant German: Macro,Tesco and Hit Spanish Real Norse rema 1000, The polish telecom giant TP S.A is controlled in 45% by France telecom, while the cellular market is split between 3 major operators, 2 of which are at least in 50% invested by German, spanish and french capital. There is heavy EU investment in Polish agricultural industries, sugar refineries, petrochemical plants, telecom related businesses and the like. All in all, we are doing well, and so are the EU investors who chose to give us money.

oh, and the homeless? you can keep'em. The sky ain't falling, jimmy little

Submitted by dakingisdead (user info) at 2004-09-02 22:59:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

Yep having just read this post My opinions are entirely supported.

You are an ignorant tosser who wouldn't know his arse from his elbow.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2004-09-01 16:14:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

bizdorph, this was written in 2003, ten days and one whole year before expansion, you halfwit.

degreeless, histroric animosity between brits and french has long since given way to grudging respect and indiference. americans seem to have carried over some francophobia from colonial times, or perhaps the grudge stems from the fact that more french died collaborating with the nazis than fighting against them.

yidele, it's difficult to argue about something as abstract (and as besides my original point) as the EU powerbalance, so i won't. my main point in breif, was that the average european has only a vague idea of the workings of european institutions, and even less interest in voting for it, and i'll admit that despite having studied it at school i still find it confusing (although that may say more about me). decisions with major ramifications are being made by a small, incompetent elite, who are laregely unnacountable to the european citizens (especially given the fact that the all powerful european commision is unelected, while we may vote for the inept european parliament)

"the numbers of central-eastern EU folk in the UK has grown by about 20-40 000, or the size of a smallish regional town"

maybe, but they did not start a polish town, they descended entirely on london, and you'll be interested to know that the polish diaspora in particular were promptly added to the ranks of the train station loitering homeless, upon finding that the endless british jobs they were promised (by polish conmen incidently) came on the condition that they could speak english, which evidently they could not. homeless poles were then taken for every penny they had, often by homeless russians who are apparantly the next rung up on the homeless imigrant heirachy.

i've heard that the polish society here are saving up to send them home- maybe you could make a donation to rescue your countrymen.

Submitted by Bizdorph (user info) at 2004-08-14 18:56:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Too bad you wrote the post 26 days after the 10 new countries joined.

Dipshit.

Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-08-14 18:40:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Please, the French and British were at each others' throats for years before Europe allegedly began hating the US. I knew that since I was five. Otherwise, rather insightful, but a rather extreme opinion.

Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2004-08-14 18:15:21 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

A year later and you still get a -2. Why? well may you ask, and the answer is that you were wrong. The US-UK relationship is as strong or stronger than it was, and the political dissent of Germany and France ( traditional warmongors and traditional cowards) has done nothing to truly upset the EU powerbalance, or rather has made the UK position stronger since now they aren't the only ones supporting American foreign policy (nearly all the incoming nations favour the USA). The forecast labor flood-migration hasn't happened either, since the numbers of central-eastern EU folk in the UK has grown by about 20-40 000, or the size of a smallish regional town. Economy is on the upswing, what with the disappearance of tarrifs and import taxes to most of europe. The Euro is stronger, the french are still worthless cowards and the euro-sceptics are as ever on about how the world is ending. Go home, chicken little.

Submitted by gibberish (user info) at 2004-08-14 16:47:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

I agree.

Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2004-08-14 16:37:56 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1

Yeah, pretty much.

Submitted by cutiepie (user info) at 2004-08-14 16:25:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

No Comment

Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2003-10-19 12:23:26 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Fuck Europe. Fuck the French. Fuck the Germans. Fuck off, leave England alone. Erm...sorry I aint actually read this.

Submitted by messmind <badfirstcontact@yahoo> at 2003-10-19 12:13:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

A good post , and i won't even try to add wisdom here , for it
is doubtfull if wisdom can be found in here . We've seen were
the unification of the northern america's have lead to , and it's
no more then obvious , that what can't be beat , must be joined , or
in this case , copied . My opinion is that in say 15 to 20 years , we
will have 3 mayor powers in the world ; the capitallistic america's ,the
so-called European democracy's and the asiatic alliance , which is form-
ing currently into the new-world economy motor . Now is a political system
with 3 competitor's very unstable , and as we can see , the american economy
is having the same continuation problems as the european once had , and
therefore try's to expand militaristic , instead of economic . They will
fail with both , no guess which system will be applied to stop this process .
some advantage's of all these developments are evident ; Africa is being
re-discovered as a potential 'new world' , and the south-america's are
forced to stabilize internal and external affairs . Failing to do so in
the past , lead them to become the worlds's bum .
All in all , i'm not pessimistic . At least there's movement on places
that haven't been mentioned for the last century . Global thinking is be-
coming the norm , so as a species , we're seeming to become aware of our
habitat , instead of being non-rational animals .

Welcome to the new members of the United States of Europe . USE USA AS I A(m).

Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2003-05-28 13:47:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Jimmy me lad, you've gone off your rocker. I don't know where it is you get your data, but "The expansion to include the Soviet satellites will be a colossal drain on the purse of the original members" does not meet with the truth. The true cost of joining the E.U will be paid by the incoming countries, which in case of Poland at least, will cost us more than the union subsidies can provide. In our case, we are offered approx. 1.8 billion Euro in total subsides & regional funds, provided we get up some 0.6 billion of our own money for infrastructure investments ( roads, bridges, etc). By comparison ,our yearly membership fee is 2.4 billion Euro which leaves us a net NEGATIVE balance, me boyo.

Poland isn't going to join the EU on terms defined by some third world shithole, oops, I meant Liverpool. One of the prerequisites for joining, defined in the acxcession treaty ( as you should know) is meeting the EU standards, industrial, farm and legislative. We have to spend our own money before we join, and lots of it.

The EU can subsidize French & Belgian farmers all it wants - our farmers would have to lay out considerable monies themselves in order to be able to sell our meat, dairy & produce in the EU. Even after having done that, they are promised subsidies at the 25% , 35% and at most 45% of the level that EU farmers today get. Facts are, despite your subsidies, our produce is still healthier & cheaper - no BSE, scrappie, or foot& mouth here...

The main reason why our accession to the union is being sponsored & supported by various EU members is that we represent a ready & developed market for goods & services and a ready pool of skilled & relatively inexpensive labor. Even today, european retail chains are fighting for our internal market which in Poland alone is around 40 000 000 people.

As to job market competition, you don't have to look very far to realize that many engineering, design & production jobs are already here - most of europe's telecommunications, electronics & many automotive firms are either developing or assembling their products here ( estern/central europe), where the labour is cheaper, the labour law employer friendly & auto assembly line workers aren't paid wages equal to airline pilots.

All in all, It is no wonder that some europeans don't want us in the union - they feel threatened ( and rightly so) by the influx of highly skilled labour which must result in some job loss for UK, France & Spain as well as the dilution of power in the EU parliament and loss of subsidies - but that is the price you must pay for new markets. In nature, onme either grows or dies - stagnation is the first sure sign of coming death.

Submitted by Jimmy (user info) at 2003-05-28 08:40:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

Yidele - while its fittingly ironic that you should criticise my countrymen for their ignorance, only to unveil *your* ignorance and oversimplified opinion/solution, it doesn't do much for your standing as Ubersite's resident know-it-all.

It is in reality exactly as difficult as I am making it out to be, owing to reasons far beyond the corruption of politicians in your backward eastern neighbour countries. Since its inception in '99, the 'Euro' currency has been plummeting in market value, validating and reinforcing British reluctance to participate. The institutions of the EU are either practically powerless (European Parliament) or ridiculously undemocratic (European Commission). Decisions of huge magnitude are being made by a handful of the elite who we the voters cannot hold accountable. The expansion to include the Soviet satellites will be a colossal drain on the purse of the original members, as the regional rehabilitation policy means pumping substantial amounts of money into any region designated as impoverished, (Liverpool & Ireland for example) which effectively means the entire Balkans area. The expansion of the EU is extremely one-sided in its advantages and it is unsurprising that our Polish pal is in favour of the union, because the new members will benefit enormously from the inclusion while the old members gain nothing, save a few million more East European migrants looking to sponge off of the social security of economically sound countries. Therefore, the entire area of Western Europe has a vested interest in keeping Eastern Europe isolated against the EU.

ps. never mind small farmers, the only ones that ARENT anti EU are the French farmers, who get 50% of the EU annual budget. FIFTY FUCKING PERCENT!!

Submitted by Jo (user info) at 2003-05-28 07:41:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

Wow a post that actually has something to say!!!

The EU has its good and its bad points. Having said that and being a patriotic(sp?) Brit I think we are in as much as we should go. If we joined fully (you know the whole single currency and this constituition thingy) we wouldn't lose our nationality... hell we are Brits and thats it. I'm sure Spain and Italy feel the same. The major problem with it as far as I can see is that be joining the single currency we would be helping prop up the economies of half of Europe. Our economy ain't fantastic right now but its a damn sight more stable than others. So is Spains and Italys.

Do you think that might have something to do with Brussels wish that we jump in feet first?!?

There also the whole thing about us hating France!

As for the Eurovision song contest.... I was a baby last time we did anything near well in that so I ain't gonna cry about it.

Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2003-05-28 04:06:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Who the fuck are you? Perhaps in your neck of the woods people "...either have no opinion or an ignorant opinion..." but on the continent it's a different matter altogether. There are really only three foci of political power where the issue of joining the EU is opposed - the neo-nationalist, small farmers & the mafia/ex-communists with ties to the east. When one looks at the benefits vs. drawbacks balance, it rapidly becomes apparent that only people with vested interest in keeping central/east europe isolated are against the EU. It's not nearly as difficult to sort out as you make it out to be; a united europe is necessary to effectively compete with the US & other powerblocks. Having tasted the economic & cultural largesse of the former soviet union, it is no wonder that the east/central european countries seek to join the EU - the alternative of being drawn back into Russian orbit is unacceptable to most, except the few mafiosi & politicians ( not that there is any real difference) with an intact umbilical attached to mother russia. All things being equal, ( and they never are ) the benefits of open borders, freedom to work/live where one wants & a common trade policy make EU the only game in town. Of course it may be different for airstrip one, after all you're nought more than the 52nd state ( right after my favourite 51st state, Israel).

Submitted by catscradle (user info) at 2003-05-28 01:51:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

Good for the Brits!

Alienation between America and Europe has long been an inevitability - a rapidly widening gap on both the ideological and methodological planes ensures this. And besides - being allied with a massive consumer/producer is always a bonus - I doubt the European Union will challenge the US in terms of economic strength, and thus not in terms of global political strength either. Not just because of America's intrinsic advantages such as population, land mass, and natural resources, but also because of the EU's already existent squabbling. France and Germany may be ready to unite but key players Britain, Spain, and Italy don't seem willing to play the game. Also, dissent did arise between some of the new EU members from Eastern Europe over the Iraqi war - equality in the EU seems to be a myth as the French seemed to treat their Eastern European brethren with contempt when they DARED to disagree with France's anti-war stance. The EU is quickly on the yellow brick road to perennial doormatdom - Poland even directly supported the Iraqi war, albeit not with much. Without Britain, Spain, Italy, and Eastern Europe, and perhaps even with them, the EU is doomed.

Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-05-28 00:53:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

The UK track didn't get a vote because it was poor... **POOR** I tell you.

Seig Heil Bundesrepublik Europas.

Euro times.

Submitted by K.M (user info) at 2003-05-27 22:54:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0

interesting, i had no idea.

Submitted by worksucks (user info) at 2003-05-27 22:44:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1

You are entitled to your opinion. However, I think you are mistaking about our ship's "status."

The poster below me is a pussy...

Submitted by Random Joe at 2003-05-27 21:27:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2

Ich möchte den Affen verprügeln.

Submitted by Paul at 2003-05-27 21:16:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2

tosser.