Are there any strong arguments against assisted suicide at all? Plus Camwhore! (1956 hits)
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Submitted by G-prime (View user info) at 2006-01-14 16:31:20 EST
Seriously people. Can anybody come up with a good reason NOT to legalize assisted suicide? Assisted suicide meaning that someone who is in no fit shape to kill themselves under their own power, and has made their intentions clear, needs somebody to help them kill themselves. We're not talking vegetative state-nobody-really-knows-what-they-wanted deal. We are talking about someone who is fully aware of their circumstances and wants to die.
You may say that we shouldn't decide when is our time to die.
But that is a personal belief, and should never be imposed on others.
I can come up with many reasons to let people kill themselves with a little help from a friend, but I have never in my life heard a good argument against letting them do so.
Please, can anybody come up with a strong, logical reason not to let people help a friend in need?
And now, what you all came here to see, because nobody cares about a pointless political post, my camwhore.
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Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2006-01-30 16:42:06 EST (#)
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frightening but in a good way
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How intelligent
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-18 18:40:08 EST (#)
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Hey man, I'm all for assisted suicide. If it's good enough for the family pet, it's good enough for grandpa.
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Best comment I've read all year. All 18 days of it.
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2006-01-18 10:12:29 EST (#)
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Jesus Christ. That picture. Must. Purge. From. Memory.
Hey man, I'm all for assisted suicide. If it's good enough for the family pet, it's good enough for grandpa.
Of course, I'm all for UNassisted suicide as well. The less competition I've got for air, food, water, and housing the better.
Submitted by nahnoneofit (user info) at 2006-01-18 09:55:40 EST (#)
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this is what i was just thinking as i scrolled down:
"assisted suicide isnt really a political issu-HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT"
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-01-16 08:17:52 EST (#)
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That picture is burnt onto my retinas. I'm off to get a screwdriver to prise my eyeballs out.
Submitted by sinna (user info) at 2006-01-16 07:42:01 EST (#)
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Bart: Dad, you killed the Zombie Flanders!
Homer: He was a zombie?
Treehouse of Horror III
If you see what I mean.
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2006-01-16 05:58:09 EST (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-01-16 04:40:21 EST (#)
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Righto, I'm off to Electro's house with me 9 iron.
Seriously though, sure why not? It's a cheap and freedom embracing policy.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2006-01-15 22:39:07 EST (#)
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I've had better but you get an A for effort.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 22:16:33 EST (#)
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Was it as good for you, unabonger honey, as it was for me?
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2006-01-15 22:10:01 EST (#)
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Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:36:19 (#)
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Yes. There is always hope. For example, say we kill some geezer with a brain tumor, and the next day we discover the stem cell that cures this. Don't we look like a pair of assholes now? Yup.
That and when you ask someone who is very sick whether or not they would like to live, they may not be in a competent mental state to make that decision.
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seems to me that I'm in charge of me regardless.
but what do I know? I just let a hooker snort crank off my slightly-erect penis.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:55:19 EST (#)
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Just, you know, clarifying.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:54:58 EST (#)
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Not that me asking you how old you are has anything to do with you saying you like winnie the pooh in the first place.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:54:15 EST (#)
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Not that there is anything wrong with winnie the pooh. Great books they are. Written by a Canadian they were. Named after Winnipeg the bear was.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:53:03 EST (#)
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How old are you axolotl and what is axolotl or whatever your name is it sounds Mayan or something?
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:43:59 EST (#)
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Sphagnum is such a tool.
The picture is...interesting.
I like the facial expression.
It also helps that I like Winnie the Pooh.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:38:05 EST (#)
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It's not perverted! SHUT UP! I AM NOT NAMBLA!!!
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-15 21:34:47 EST (#)
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*high-fives the dude in the furry child's costume and character undies*
Word.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 20:43:01 EST (#)
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I hear ya coley.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-15 17:11:38 EST (#)
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That's the last goddamned time I put any thought or effort into something like this..did none of you assholes read a fucking thing I wrote?
It seems the number one reason people are using against the legality of assisted suicide is something along the lines of
"yah but what if you liek were sad and then the doctor killed you n you couldnt change yer mind"
for FUCKS SAKE
Assisted suicide is not currently available for people who are "just plain depressed" or have some sort of a condition in which there is hope that they will get better. It requires extensive medical testing, a psychological evaluation, and the assurance that you have less than six months to live..no matter WHAT you think.
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Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 14:08:26 EST (#)
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p.s The government doesn't care what an insignificant retard says about them. If they thought you were going to cause the slightest little headache, they would drop you through an industrial shredder and feed your remains to their Alien overlords.
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And your amazing intelligence emerges.
I forgot you were an Aussie. I just figured that you couldn't be, seeing as the other Australians here are smart.
Submitted by Garrik (user info) at 2006-01-15 12:26:02 EST (#)
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Because:
1> You'd get a lot of dubious cases that would take a lot of legal deliberation which wastes good tax payer money on dirty lawyers. Plus every murderer in the world is going to try the "but he told me to kill him!" line. Plus I shudder to think the number of old ladies that will die "voluntarily" so their next of kin can laugh their way to the bank, if it was legal I seriously doubt some (evil) people would have any hesitation in coercing/influencing people into letting themselves be killed by exploiting whatever predicament or ailment they might be suffering from or their poor mental state.
2> People with terminal illnesses tend to have deep depression, especially after first discovering their situation, they probably wouldn't think straight and would later regret being dead, if they weren't dead, same for people who have a new disability etc. letting them succumb to their self-pity and kill themselves robs them of the chance that they would actually adapt to their new circumstances and continue having a worthwhile existence.
3> The circumstances surrounding their decision could change, and it's not exactly a reversible process. For instance what if you kill someone because they were disabled and were depressed over it, then a few months later a "cure" is developed?
4> There aren't many people who can safely communicate that they are happy to die and not able to do it for themselves, you'd just end up with a lot of weak-minded self-pitying types blackmailing friends/family/workers to assist their cowards-way-out suicide and leaving them with the guilt.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-01-15 12:12:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 10:19:00 (#)
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a) Because it is against the law.
b) Because the gutless fuckers should do it themselves.
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So the law rules supremely over all other things. In some countries it is against the law to speak out against the government. Does that mean I would shut up? Hell no. I would be one of the guys you see on CNN running around in the woods with an AK47. HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
And besides, I thought we were talking about CHANGING the law. If you don't agree with a law, you try to change it. It's one of your basic rights you silly yankee. The first amendment protects your right to petition the government.
As for b) I'm not even going to touch that one.
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HAHA! Ignorant fuckbag thinks I'm an American.
Go choke on a dick, asshat.
p.s The government doesn't care what an insignificant retard says about them. If they thought you were going to cause the slightest little headache, they would drop you through an industrial shredder and feed your remains to their Alien overlords.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-01-15 11:02:09 EST (#)
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Dude.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 10:19:00 EST (#)
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a) Because it is against the law.
b) Because the gutless fuckers should do it themselves.
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So the law rules supremely over all other things. In some countries it is against the law to speak out against the government. Does that mean I would shut up? Hell no. I would be one of the guys you see on CNN running around in the woods with an AK47. HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
And besides, I thought we were talking about CHANGING the law. If you don't agree with a law, you try to change it. It's one of your basic rights you silly yankee. The first amendment protects your right to petition the government.
As for b) I'm not even going to touch that one.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2006-01-15 08:50:46 EST (#)
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Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-01-15 08:19:12 (#)
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Please, can anybody come up with a strong, logical reason not to let people help a friend in need?
a) Because it is against the law.
---> Law = Reason?
b) Because the gutless fuckers should do it themselves.
---> You try killing yourself. It's not easy. Sometimes these people are physically incapable of killing themselves anyway.
c) Because there are many factors that would prevent someone from making a logical decision about this particular issue. The thing about death is that, if you make a mistake and didn't really want to die, you won't be able to click [CTRL] + [Z] and get a second chance. Therefore, if you want to die, do it yourself or let nature take it's course.
---> An arguement against suicide; NOT against assistance of suicide.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-01-15 08:19:12 EST (#)
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Please, can anybody come up with a strong, logical reason not to let people help a friend in need?
a) Because it is against the law.
b) Because the gutless fuckers should do it themselves.
c) Because there are many factors that would prevent someone from making a logical decision about this particular issue. The thing about death is that, if you make a mistake and didn't really want to die, you won't be able to click [CTRL] + [Z] and get a second chance. Therefore, if you want to die, do it yourself or let nature take it's course.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2006-01-15 07:21:36 EST (#)
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As long as a doctor is present to avoid any legal problems that may arise (was it assisted suicide or murder) including a signed certificate by the suicidee saying it is completely their choice and have no been pressured into or forced into it, I don't see one bloody thing wrong with suicide assistance.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-15 00:25:10 EST (#)
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Admit it ladies, you know you want to rub the chest under that fuzzy tigger costume.
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2006-01-15 00:17:22 EST (#)
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I'm still in shock from that picture.
Submitted by little.schmatty (user info) at 2006-01-14 22:21:53 EST (#)
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They introduced assisted suicide in a few countries, and around 20% of doctors in Iceland admitted to suggesting euthanasia to patients to try to free up hospital beds.
Euthanasia is not a right to die, it's the right to be killed. And while I approve of it in theory, I don't know how a law like that could be worded to prevent manipulation and euthanasia being misused.
+2 for the camwhore
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-01-14 21:00:42 EST (#)
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I'm all for people commiting suicide and assisted suicide because there are too many damn people in the world anyway. I think it's unfair to outlaw any form of suicide because if someone honestly wants to die that badly (and I'm not talking about the little emo bitches who slit their wrists for attention. Wait, them too. Kill those whiny bastards!), we should respect their wishes. I don't think it's fair if someone who's going to die anyway in an extremely painful way wants to get it over with to end the suffering but isn't allowed to do so because of a ridiculous law.
And about the picture.......umm.....I really don't know what to say.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2006-01-14 20:30:41 EST (#)
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That picture is all the reasons i need to support unassisted murder.
Submitted by matnotharry (user info) at 2006-01-14 20:02:16 EST (#)
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Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:34:28 (#)
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huhuhuhuh.
*cough*
*catches breath*
interesting that that pic was linked to the idea of killing ourselves.......
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-01-14 19:14:40 EST (#)
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I have strong arguements FOR assisted suicide.
Sometimes I have to convince people they want to be killed, and if they don't, then I just kill them anyways.
Submitted by Herpes (user info) at 2006-01-14 19:01:26 EST (#)
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That is without a doubt, the gayest of all gay gay pictures every gayed up on the internet...
Unbelievably funny, however...
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2006-01-14 18:53:12 EST (#)
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There's a nice package
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-14 18:17:07 EST (#)
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inion de trua could you please make your comment make sense?
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-14 18:16:33 EST (#)
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Un petit secret: c'est pas vraiment moi... DÉPUTÉ DE SAINT-PAUL!
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-01-14 18:02:24 EST (#)
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It should be an option for anyone who chooses it. It should be covered in the Advance Medical Directive (living will) in all states (I'm not sure that it isn't already in the states where it's legal). Yet conversely, I don't believe it's something that could legislated federally in the U.S. It one of those "hot" issues that's best left up to individual states to decide.
Personally, I'd much rather have the right to choose when I die, as opposed to my own extended suffering or indignity. Barring the loss of the use of my hands, I can solve this issue myself should the need ever arise. That's just my opinion, though. Many people fear death too much to take their own life.
I think that pic is going to give me nightmares.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:58:14 EST (#)
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that's not piglet c1ndy.
you need more pooh interaction. or maybe i need to stop hanging out with toddlers.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:57:00 EST (#)
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nice.
well. if you want to go to that way if someone was logically everything someone else had in the world and they wanted to die and then did die what's to say the depression for the other person wouldn't be so much that they killed themselves. i mean then it's not someone who can't kill themself killing themself because they lost everything in their world because someone who couldn't kill themselves got help and killed themself.
i believe in assisted suicide. i'm moving to oregon when i get old and decrepit.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:55:14 EST (#)
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+2 camwhore wearing spiderman underwear and a piglet costume
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:50:56 EST (#)
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Le poster derrière me traumatise plus que ta photo débile.
T'es un petit gars spécial toi.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:42:40 EST (#)
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Personally, I don't think it's my place to judge what degree of suffering a person must undergo in order to end their own lives. It's a case by case basis and I can never know the pain that another person is feeling, only if it is me.
I do feel that if someone chooses to end their own lives, for whatever reason (justified by the standards of others or not) that they ought to have the right to. That doesn't mean I have to like it, or think it makes sense, or have made the same choice myself. But, the right to end one's life is not what we are talking about here. Everyone can make that choice.
What we are talking about is ASSISTED suicide. HELP doing it. Sending yourself out. Certainly if you are bent upon heading out the door you can find a way to end it, albeit not necessarily a dignified or painless way. Actually the irony in that statement abounds, since I do not believe anyone chooses to end their life unless they are already in a great deal of pain, either physical or emotional.
It's more about the legal amnesty of the physician who helps you do so in a medical way. It's like the doctor acknowledging that it's medically necessary for you to kill yourself (a medical treatment to what ails you, if you will) and prescribing the best method.
I cannot argue if nobody argues back.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:33:48 EST (#)
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Good point, but how about this: whether the possibility of cure is available or not, don't you think that it is that person's choice, and it can be made only by them? I think that if somebody wants to kill themselves, they should have the option to do it legally. I think that if somebody is opposed to the act, then they shouldn't commit it, but they shouldn't prevent other people from doing it to themselves simply because they wouldn't do it. My stance on this is similar to my stance on abortions: if you don't agree with abortions, then don't have one.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:25:56 EST (#)
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I'm just fucking arguing with myself here, aren't I.
And I still have to keep seeing your spiderman crotch.. SO UNFAIR!
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:25:23 EST (#)
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Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:10:33 (#)
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The personal belief issue is a very shaky issue for both sides. On one hand there are the reasons you listed. On the other hand, you may be making an uninformed decision, which may be different if you were familiar with all the other options and progressive research to help parapelegics. In addition, the problem with saying that you couldn't live without the use of your limbs NOW, but if (God forbid) that time did come, you may change your mind. The strongest instinct for human beings is survival, and under certain extreme circumstances when we normally think that we would give up, instinct prevails and people choose to continue living.
You didn't address the issue of a possibility of a cure for your disease either. For example, if you were completely parapelegic, but in the next 2 years, there was a 25% chance of the development of a new technology that would enable you to regain partial use of your arms and legs, wouldn't you take that chance? Now what if you hadn't known this when you notorized the document stating that you would like to die if you were ever to become a parapelegic?
I've got to run, but have a +2 for promoting discussion. I'm not sure how I feel on the issue, but I do think there are strong arguments for both sides.
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the problem with this logic is the fact that "signing up" for assisted suicide is highly regulated and very paperwork driven. You don't simply pick up a post-it note and write "if I ever get in an accident and can't wipe my own butt anymore please kill me !11!!!"
The process involves some pretty strict rules. Of course as I search for this information that I've previously read, I can't find a damned thing. Trust me here, internet strangers.
In order for a person to "qualify" to receive physician assistance in committing suicide (in OR at least) you must be examined by a number of doctors (three or more, I believe) with the unanimous conclusion found that you have six months or less to live. At that point, you are also examined to be assured that you are in sound mind at this point, lest you suffer from a severe physical ailment; they want to be sure that it hasn't affected your brain and that this judgment to carry forward in the process is done by the sane you.
After these things are done, a physician will write a prescription for what is usually a lethal dose of a medication, or a combination of pills that will help to stop your heart and cause you to pass away, fairly quickly and much less painfully than if you were to go the old hairdryer-in-the-bathtub or beer-bonging-drano route (or so I have heard). The time and manner in which the actual suicide/ingestion of said prescribed pills is carried out is now in the hands of the person who is dying.
How nice it would be, if you were to be in such physical and emotional pain with absolutely no medical hope to have it alleviated, or to survive, to choose that one night you will have your friends and family over, be able to say your goodbyes, and swallow those pills and have it done. What purpose would further suffering have served? None.
Any objection to assisted suicide is, I believe, a personal moral judgment..and sometimes there are personal moral judgments that shouldn't influence the reach of the government.
Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 17:10:33 EST (#)
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The personal belief issue is a very shaky issue for both sides. On one hand there are the reasons you listed. On the other hand, you may be making an uninformed decision, which may be different if you were familiar with all the other options and progressive research to help parapelegics. In addition, the problem with saying that you couldn't live without the use of your limbs NOW, but if (God forbid) that time did come, you may change your mind. The strongest instinct for human beings is survival, and under certain extreme circumstances when we normally think that we would give up, instinct prevails and people choose to continue living.
You didn't address the issue of a possibility of a cure for your disease either. For example, if you were completely parapelegic, but in the next 2 years, there was a 25% chance of the development of a new technology that would enable you to regain partial use of your arms and legs, wouldn't you take that chance? Now what if you hadn't known this when you notorized the document stating that you would like to die if you were ever to become a parapelegic?
I've got to run, but have a +2 for promoting discussion. I'm not sure how I feel on the issue, but I do think there are strong arguments for both sides.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:58:16 EST (#)
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MY EYES! MY FUCKIN' EYES! THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING!
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:56:53 EST (#)
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okay, I'm done admiring that highly artistic photo.
I live in Oregon, one of the few states where assisted suicide is currently legal. I am a firm believer in the right to choose to end your own life in a relatively painless and dignified manner, if you so choose.
Recently there was a series of articles in the local paper regarding this topic. At least two different front-page articles devoted to dying and the process of it were ran, bringing in a shitstorm of politically-charged letters to the editor.
Many people seem to think that assisted suicide is wrong because they are of a religious inclination and believe that suicide is, at the very least, on par with murder.
I had a very good friend, his name was Jason.
Jason suffered from malignant melanoma for about five years, maybe more..who knows how long it was there before he found out.
Jason had tumors..tumors in his mouth, his stomach, his lungs, his intestines. He had tumors in his neck, abdomen, everywhere you could imagine. He had a tumor the size of a football removed from his small intestine about six months before he died. A fucking FOOTBALL.
I knew he was in pain. He was pretty quiet, tough in a silent sort of way. But I knew he was hurting. He came to our wedding the day after chemo. He looked like a ghost. The tumor on his chest was so swollen and red and painful that you couldn't hug him, even gently. You could see it bulging up from under his shirt. I sat across from him and while he was trying to eat he had to give up because just his shirt TOUCHING the tumor hurt so bad he whimpered like a hurt puppy.
Fuck you if you think that someone going through that kind of shit shouldn't have the choice to take themselves out sooner rather than later. Fuck you if you think it boils down to republicans and democrats and god and jesus and whatever other shit you are into. It's not you in those shoes.
So you probably see which side of the fence I'M on.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:51:29 EST (#)
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But is it really our call? If I get in a bike accident, and become paraplegic, I'm stating right now in front of uber, and the world, that I want to die. I'm healthy now, right? Can't I make that decision right now, and stand by it later? As far as my personal beliefs are concerned, my life isn't worth living without being able to move. But I need my buddy to help pull the trigger, or inject the needle, or do whatever I ask him to do to end my suffering. That buddy shouldn't go to jail for second degree murder, when in reality he was helping me end my shitty life.
Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:46:28 EST (#)
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To clarify, sure a person may SEEM like they're mentally competent to make the decision, but how do we know whether or not they would make the same decision if they were able to take a look at this scenario when they were 100% healthy in the past. That, and human beings are prone to poor decisions because they're influenced by their surrounding environment and circumstances, which is why people have regrets.
Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:37:03 EST (#)
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Forgot to rate, my bad.
Submitted by wijormiclat (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:36:19 EST (#)
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Yes. There is always hope. For example, say we kill some geezer with a brain tumor, and the next day we discover the stem cell that cures this. Don't we look like a pair of assholes now? Yup.
That and when you ask someone who is very sick whether or not they would like to live, they may not be in a competent mental state to make that decision.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-01-14 16:34:28 EST (#)
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huhuhuhuh.
*cough*
*catches breath*
interesting that that pic was linked to the idea of killing ourselves.......
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