The Coming War and some Fundamentalist porn for good measure (691 hits)
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Submitted by FryBender (View user info) at 2006-02-06 12:35:28 EST
With all this talk of crazy muslims on this board it only seems fitting to add "I told you so" from America. Many people bought the lies of the mass media, and various ultra left wingers and were convinced that America brought Islamic wrath on itself. These people are filled with an un-natural rage, and as more people understand this the better. But this is neither here nor there.
Iran has declared that it will immediately resume unranium enrichment in light of the recent decision made by the UN. Not that they werent enriching uranium before, now they just will be more cavalier about it. With this in mind understand that we are about to witness a war unlike anything we have seen in a long time. Any day now I expect to turn on the television and see somethin along the lines of "Israel unleashes massive air campaign on Iran, hundreds of thousands of Iranians presumed dead". I do not know who the other players in this war will be, possibly the US but I don't think Israel will need the help. I would also expect to see Syria attempt to come to the aid of Iran. Heres how I figure this thing may play out.
Israel will launch a pre-emptive strike against the Iranians using very powerful conventional weapons. Shortly after launching the strike the IDF would drive the Palestinians completely out of Israel with ease. Unlike the US Israel does not care about world opinion and will not only attack strategic targets, but also civilian targets will be intentionally destroyed. Hospitals, bridges, military installations, mosques, nothing will be spared in this massive attack. Iran will be completely crippled within days. Seeing this Syria MAY attempt to help Iran, and launch a biological or chemical attack against Israel. If Syria does use a WMD attack on Israel, expect to see Israel launch a nuclear attack against Damascus. Within a month I would expect to see the whole ordeal over with peace deals being struck.
There are of course numerous variables that could make things different, and as we all know the whole thing could happen totally different than I imagine. Here are some things to keep in mind.
1. Israel will attack first and alone, they will not allow Iran to strike first nor will they allow the UN to mull over this for a year. They cant afford to.
2. Israel will have to launch a massive attack for sheer shock value, this will be he only way to keep most other cowardly ME countries from getting involved. When Egypt, Jordan, etc see the carnage they will not be too antsy to jump into the frey.
3. Israel will have no choice but to kick out the Palestinians due to the increased likelyhood of terrorist attacks.
After this short war there will actually be peace in the Middle East for some time. In fact we will probably see the Iraqi insurgency all but disappear, as Iran and Syria lick their wounds. There will be many lives lost, and there will be a terrible economic cost to countries who rely on ME oil.
This coming war is unavoidable, because Islamic fundamentalist will have it no other way. Oh and as promised, heres a sample of what Osama and co wank to everynight. Enjoy!
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Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-12 02:44:15 EST (#)
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Submitted by Arab (user info) at 2006-02-12 02:13:33 (#)
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Thats the thing though. Moderate Islam is being practiced throught the Middle East (except for a few countries still struggling to keep their people living in the aforementioned dark ages. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Bahrain... these are all mulim countries, built on muslim tradition as well as religion. Moderate Islam rules in these countries (some more so than others). Unfortunately, all you ever hear on the news is how some misguided fucknut carrying a case of explosives blew himself and X number of others up while crying "allahu akbar". Media is the true villain here for exacerbating the situation instead of broadcasting the otherside of the coin.
My dad has a satellite at his home, and one night I was channel surfing and caught a glimpse of the Holy Land. Naturally it caught my attention, and come to find out this particuliar channel showed various news reports from various Middle Eastern countries. It was a very good insight for me, because as you say the media tends to only report one side of a story, depending on which agenda needs to be met.
I hope that the regimes in Iran and/or Syria can be overthrown by citizens who crave peace before things get out of hand. Another thing to pay attention to is Russia's hand in all of this. They are helping Iran not only develop nuclear technology, but they are selling them arms like crazy. I am not much on conspiracy theories, but it seems Russia would like nothing more than to see this situation get out of hand.
Submitted by Arab (user info) at 2006-02-12 02:13:33 EST (#)
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Thats the thing though. Moderate Islam is being practiced throught the Middle East (except for a few countries still struggling to keep their people living in the aforementioned dark ages. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Bahrain... these are all mulim countries, built on muslim tradition as well as religion. Moderate Islam rules in these countries (some more so than others). Unfortunately, all you ever hear on the news is how some misguided fucknut carrying a case of explosives blew himself and X number of others up while crying "allahu akbar". Media is the true villain here for exacerbating the situation instead of broadcasting the otherside of the coin.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-07 13:53:50 EST (#)
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Submitted by Arab (user info) at 2006-02-07 07:59:00 (#)
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Think of Islam today as Catholicism during the dark ages. It is not a flaw within the religion, but a flaw within the religious who grasp at straws for salvation and use those straws as swords of justice.
It is sad that so much hatered exists within people who understand so little of each other.
That is all.
Then moderate Muslims need to aim for reforms. Comparing todays Islam to dark age Catholicism is a really good analogy, and one can imagine Christianity would be much smaller or not exist if not for the Protestant reformation. Muslims need their Protestant reformation, sure some old sects would still exist, but the major voice of Islam would be more tolerant towards other religions. At the rate things are going we are moving headlong into WWIII, its right before our eyes.
Submitted by Arab (user info) at 2006-02-07 07:59:00 EST (#)
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Think of Islam today as Catholicism during the dark ages. It is not a flaw within the religion, but a flaw within the religious who grasp at straws for salvation and use those straws as swords of justice.
It is sad that so much hatered exists within people who understand so little of each other.
That is all.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:25:43 (#)
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Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:15:31 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:04:50 (#)
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"With this in mind understand that we are about to witness a war unlike anything we have seen in a long time."
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This I agree with. Where I disagree is your assertion that American foreign policy hasn't exacerbated the situation for the last half century.
I agree in the sense that we should have never empowered these dictatorships by buying oil from them. Understand this though, Muslims used to fight other religions, fight amongst themselves, fight their neighbors etc. There is a flaw within Islam that lends itself to violent extremism making it all but impossible for infidels to co-exist peacefully. There was a time where Islam flourished and looked toward the future with promise, but the rise of extremism has set Islam back hundreds of years.
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You are right. Islam is NOT a peaceful religion. As I've illustrated on another post, the very foundations of Islam are war. The TRUE Muslims ARE the extremists.
That IS Islam, unfortunately. The rest are like non-practicing Jews or Christians... They talk the talk, but they are skiddish about walking the walk. Same reason Jews aren't out stoning people in the streets and are instead running banks.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 16:20:14 EST (#)
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Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2006-02-06 15:12:31 (#)
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While I appreciate how hardcore you think we (Israel) are, let me point out a _slightly_ more likely scenario:
Israel gets tired of waiting for the UN to do its fucking job. Sends out a flight of F-15s. The Iranian nuclear reactor is bombed to shit. GAME OVER.
We already did it once with Iraq. How is this any different?
Different in that when constructing their (Iran) nuclear facilities they could learn from the earlier destruction of Iraqs reactors. From my understanding Iran has reactors in over a dozen different locations, with the most sensitive equipment placed deep underground and protected by concrete. I think any effective attack on Iran would have to be much more than a single F-15 bombing run. Coupled with the fact that Iran does have missles that can reach Israel, and will use them immediately in retaliation if Israel does not attack "hardcore". It would be horrible if Iran baited Israel into a conflict, and Israel does a limited surgical strike only to be attacked with a small nuke. It makes more sense to cripple Iran immediately, and not risk any surprises like that.
While I agree that the UN should do their job, and that diplomacy would be best. Both at this point are the least likely to happen.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-02-06 15:36:11 EST (#)
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I think we should just let Israel do what it does best. The people we're dealing with are so insane that they lob molotov cocktails over some Danish guy's doodle. Maybe a 'hardcore' solution would be better than all this acceptance and toleration nonsense.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-02-06 15:33:33 EST (#)
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Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:46:36 (#)
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Iran is not like North Korea, granted the Iranian people do not have a great standard of living, but that is the result of the crooked Mullahs. Iran is beyond wealthy. Iran is saber rattling because they have a fundamentalist regime who either has or is about to have nuclear weapons. The Mullahs are filthy rich, and they do not care if their people eat dirt for sustanence. However they are religious zealots who are hoping to start a war with Israel by threatening them.
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I don't pretend to know exactly what's going to happen; the information is too filtered by the time it gets to us as to be almost useless in predicting what's going to happen. I also don't doubt that Iran is stupid enough to start a war they can't win. If there's anyone stupid enough to blow themselves into extinction, I've long maintained that it will be either a Catholic or Muslim nation.
I disagree with one major point on this post, and that is that the situation the author played out is inevitable. Look at the Spanish Armada, the Bay of Pigs, the Cold War. At least half of all the big scraps turn out to be outright duds. Another quarter are resolved through sanctions and diplomacy. That leaves us with a 75% of an solution that lacks the theatrics of this post.
And it doesn't matter how this thing resolves itself. It will end up with my tax dollars being wasted on morons who get all pissy and lob molotov cocktails over a Danish cartoon (either by way of foreign aid, or shipping more of the morons into the US).
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2006-02-06 15:12:31 EST (#)
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While I appreciate how hardcore you think we (Israel) are, let me point out a _slightly_ more likely scenario:
Israel gets tired of waiting for the UN to do its fucking job. Sends out a flight of F-15s. The Iranian nuclear reactor is bombed to shit. GAME OVER.
We already did it once with Iraq. How is this any different?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:25:43 EST (#)
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Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:15:31 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:04:50 (#)
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"With this in mind understand that we are about to witness a war unlike anything we have seen in a long time."
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This I agree with. Where I disagree is your assertion that American foreign policy hasn't exacerbated the situation for the last half century.
I agree in the sense that we should have never empowered these dictatorships by buying oil from them. Understand this though, Muslims used to fight other religions, fight amongst themselves, fight their neighbors etc. There is a flaw within Islam that lends itself to violent extremism making it all but impossible for infidels to co-exist peacefully. There was a time where Islam flourished and looked toward the future with promise, but the rise of extremism has set Islam back hundreds of years.
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You are right. Islam is NOT a peaceful religion. As I've illustrated on another post, the very foundations of Islam are war. The TRUE Muslims ARE the extremists.
That IS Islam, unfortunately. The rest are like non-practicing Jews or Christians... They talk the talk, but they are skiddish about walking the walk. Same reason Jews aren't out stoning people in the streets and are instead running banks.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:15:31 EST (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:04:50 (#)
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"With this in mind understand that we are about to witness a war unlike anything we have seen in a long time."
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This I agree with. Where I disagree is your assertion that American foreign policy hasn't exacerbated the situation for the last half century.
I agree in the sense that we should have never empowered these dictatorships by buying oil from them. Understand this though, Muslims used to fight other religions, fight amongst themselves, fight their neighbors etc. There is a flaw within Islam that lends itself to violent extremism making it all but impossible for infidels to co-exist peacefully. There was a time where Islam flourished and looked toward the future with promise, but the rise of extremism has set Islam back hundreds of years.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:13:19 EST (#)
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The players in this war...
Taken from here: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/31/iran.straw.text.reut/index.html
Five permanent members of the UN Security Council, Germany, and the EU.
Magical number SEVEN.
"The Foreign Ministers of China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and the High Representative of the European Union met this evening, 30 January 2006, and agreed the following:
"Ministers:
# underlined their commitment to the NPT and their determination to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons;
# shared serious concerns about Iran's nuclear program, and agreed that an extensive period of confidence-building was required from Iran;
# called on Iran to restore in full the suspension of enrichment-related activity, including R&D, under the supervision of the IAEA;
# agreed that this week's Extraordinary IAEA Board meeting should report to the Security Council its decision on the steps required from Iran, and should also report to the Security Council all IAEA reports and resolutions, as adopted, relating to this issue;
# agreed that the Security Council should await the Director General's report to the March meeting of the IAEA Board, which would include a report on the implementation of the February Board's Resolution, and any Resolution from the March meeting, before deciding to take action to reinforce the authority of the IAEA process;
# confirmed their resolve to continue to work for a diplomatic solution to the Iran problem.""
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-02-06 14:04:50 EST (#)
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"With this in mind understand that we are about to witness a war unlike anything we have seen in a long time."
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This I agree with. Where I disagree is your assertion that American foreign policy hasn't exacerbated the situation for the last half century.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:59:14 EST (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:54:50 (#)
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But don't you think if they are trying to start a war, they have something hidden up their sleeve?
I mean they didn't get to power by being stupid.
No doubt about it they have something up their sleave. Could be a nuke, or could be that Syria has Iraqs cache of WMDs. Whatever it is though is not going to be enough to offset the response of Israel. As you know Israel has the same level of military sophistication of the US, however they will not be afraid to rack up the casualties. Remember we are talking about people who think that Allah is on their side, and believe that they are doing his will.
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:54:50 EST (#)
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But don't you think if they are trying to start a war, they have something hidden up their sleeve?
I mean they didn't get to power by being stupid.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:46:36 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:24:03 (#)
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... yeah, it COULD happen that way... or it could turn out, as it usually does, that the US sends a boatload of Ho-Ho's and jack-off magazines (spell that "foreign aid") to Iran... in which case the ragheads will likely pipe down and get back to blaming food poisoning on ghosts, stoning the retarded, and eating camel dung for dinner. Charity - that's usually what nuclear saber rattling is a plea for.
Iran is not like North Korea, granted the Iranian people do not have a great standard of living, but that is the result of the crooked Mullahs. Iran is beyond wealthy. Iran is saber rattling because they have a fundamentalist regime who either has or is about to have nuclear weapons. The Mullahs are filthy rich, and they do not care if their people eat dirt for sustanence. However they are religious zealots who are hoping to start a war with Israel by threatening them.
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:44:36 EST (#)
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4) George Bush will stick his nose in and FUCK EVERYTHING UP.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:38:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:09:41 (#)
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Peace within a month? Are you retarded? Middle Eastern countries don't fight with their militaries, they fight with their citizens. If any Iranian's or Syrian's survive then it will be war until either they or the Israelis are all dead.
I do not think there will be peace within a month because of the destruction of the Iranian or Syrian military. I think there will be peace within a month in the wake of the complete destruction of Iran and Syria. Sure their will be people left over but I seriously doubt anyone is going to be in a position to do anything. Besides with the Palestinians out of Israel, I would expect any person who even remotely looks Arab will not be allowed anywhere near Israel.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:24:03 EST (#)
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... yeah, it COULD happen that way... or it could turn out, as it usually does, that the US sends a boatload of Ho-Ho's and jack-off magazines (spell that "foreign aid") to Iran... in which case the ragheads will likely pipe down and get back to blaming food poisoning on ghosts, stoning the retarded, and eating camel dung for dinner. Charity - that's usually what nuclear saber rattling is a plea for.
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-02-06 13:09:41 EST (#)
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Peace within a month? Are you retarded? Middle Eastern countries don't fight with their militaries, they fight with their citizens. If any Iranian's or Syrian's survive then it will be war until either they or the Israelis are all dead.
Submitted by RamenNoodle (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:57:53 EST (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:52:01 (#)
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actually, the money shot is of an ankle
Yeah but check out her provacative pose, she just screams "Abdul, remove your penis from the camel and come hither".
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:52:01 EST (#)
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actually, the money shot is of an ankle.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:46:47 EST (#)
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JIIIIIIHAAAAAD!
Submitted by alfakyle (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:41:46 EST (#)
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Don't worry. Jack Bauer will save the day.
(i stopped reading at "Heres how I figure this thing may play out")
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:40:39 EST (#)
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Stab yourself with stuff.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-02-06 12:37:43 EST (#)
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Oh do shut up.