Atheists (Part 1 of 2) Good Read (535 hits)
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Submitted by skalors1 (View user info) at 2006-04-27 18:31:48 EDT
Atheistic Viewpoints
Why do you exist? Well, if God doesn't exist, that means that life must have come about through some natural impersonal, unintelligent, and ultimately purposeless process. That means we're ultimately as purposeless as the very process which brought us into existence. Life's just an accident and so are you. You can find short term reasons for living like you're here because your parents wanted to have children, etc., but ultimately you're just an accident and so are your parents. Life is one big accident. You serve no purpose, you'll cause no lasting effect, and in the grand scheme of things your life is utterly meaningless. Without a Creator in the beginning, there was nobody around to put you here on purpose which means you aren't here for a reason. It's that simple.
As far as asking "what am I worth," without God we don't actually have an intrinsic value, at least not an objective one. Our worth is ultimately subjective. You might think you're worth something but someone else might think you're worthless, and as long as there's no transcendent Assessor to have the final say, no one's ultimately right or wrong. In fact, without God there's really no such thing as right or wrong. John Dewey (1859-1952), the famous 20th century atheist explained, "There is no God and there is no soul. Hence, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes."1
Philosophers generally agree: without an absolute God to make the rules, there is no such thing as a moral absolute; there are only preferences. You don't actually have a right to live; you just prefer not to die. Someone else on the other hand might want to kill you regardless of how you feel about it, and who is to say that they're wrong? In the absence of absolute morality, power reigns supreme; the strong survive and the weak get exploited.
Thankfully, most governments see it as their duty to uphold what they see as your God-given right to live, and governments also happen to be the strongest institution among men (which means they can enforce morality upon those who don't necessarily agree with your right to live). The founders of the United States of America put it well when they declared, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." Unfortunately, some governments don't share this worldview and their people suffer terribly for it.
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2006-04-28 14:38:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You know what I heard???
That your Christian god falls upon his knees onto broken glass, spreads his rectum wide and allows dogs to anally violate him.
That's just what I hear...
Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2006-04-28 09:51:52 EDT (#)
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Insted of beating the dead horse of debating religion, lets beat you insted.
Shithead.
Did you mom have any children that lived?
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2006-04-28 09:02:02 EDT (#)
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i want you to fall asleep in your car, and have whoever is driving it to ghost ride it into a hydraulic crush machine.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-04-28 08:46:28 EDT (#)
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REAM MY ANUS!
Submitted by Sinistral (user info) at 2006-04-27 22:17:03 EDT (#)
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WHOOOO RELIGI.......oh......were not doin that?
The only mistake God every made was you.
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-04-27 19:35:08 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
is this the genocidal, racist, ageist, war-mongering, executioner of those with a different thought process, oppressive, tyrannical, barbarous, callous, unmerciful, unsympathetic, religious segregationist, violent, inquisition inspiring, supremacist, bitter, egotistical, self possesed, moralistic, abusive, depraved, spiteful yahweh/jehovah/god/allah/elohim/ahura mazda/siidha/ngal/jah/niskam you're talking about?
or are we talking about someone else?
let me put it this way. Religion in the hands of man becomes all those things I stated above. Religion is not necessary for morality. Spirituality, though, is.
If this is ones personal philosophy, one needs to look at all sides, and understand that it isn't GOD that inspires morality, but SPIRITUALITY. The belief in something spiritual. The belief in any God has brought some of the best and worst out in people. The best is brought out of fear of retribution, or the hope for some spiritual reward, while the worst is borne of religious fervor.
Submitted by matnotharry (user info) at 2006-04-27 19:09:13 EDT (#)
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meh religion posts are always rocky ground
Submitted by COMountain (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:54:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by COMountain (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:49:59 (#)
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cock fucking shit.
whether you read that as a penos making love to poo, or poo humping the cock, it really doesn't matter.
cause I cut and pasted it.
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Submitted by COMountain (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:49:59 EDT (#)
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cock fucking shit.
whether you read that as a penos making love to poo, or poo humping the cock, it really doesn't matter.
cause I cut and pasted it.
Submitted by MonkeyingAround (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:49:12 EDT (#)
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"good read" I didn't want to read it.
Submitted by myexstaintstain (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:47:57 EDT (#)
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This fucking sucked ass and so do you faggot.
Submitted by skalors (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:44:04 EDT (#)
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I should say I never would cut and paste and claim it as my own.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:41:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by skalors (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:40:28 (#)
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Sorry if I insulted you in any way shape or form. I have enough to write about without cutting and pasting someone else's work
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Then why did ya do it in the first place?
Nevermind. I don't care.
Good luck in the reviews.
Submitted by skalors (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:40:28 EDT (#)
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Fair enough.
www.allaboutphilosophy.org
Sorry if I insulted you in any way shape or form. I have enough to write about without cutting and pasting someone else's work.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:38:33 EDT (#)
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Credit where credit is due then, if not - we assume you try to pass it off as your own.
And we loathe copy/paste.
We can find this shit ourselves if we wanna see it.
Submitted by skalors (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:37:26 EDT (#)
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Did you not see the listing good read? That is simply because it was a good read that I found online and wanted to share. I bookmarked the page to finish the article later. Am I supposed to do something different next time?
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:36:20 EDT (#)
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U R TEH BRILLINAT!
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:35:10 EDT (#)
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"There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes."1"
See, forgot to edit out the little "1" for the footnote or page number there genius.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:34:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by skalors1 [Authenticated] (View user info) at 2006-04-27 18:31:48
Atheistic Viewpoints
Why do you exist? Well, if God doesn't exist, that means that life must have come about through some natural impersonal, unintelligent, and ultimately purposeless process. That means we're ultimately as purposeless as the very process which brought us into existence. Life's just an accident and so are you. You can find short term reasons for living like you're here because your parents wanted to have children, etc., but ultimately you're just an accident and so are your parents. Life is one big accident. You serve no purpose, you'll cause no lasting effect, and in the grand scheme of things your life is utterly meaningless. Without a Creator in the beginning, there was nobody around to put you here on purpose which means you aren't here for a reason. It's that simple.
As far as asking "what am I worth," without God we don't actually have an intrinsic value, at least not an objective one. Our worth is ultimately subjective. You might think you're worth something but someone else might think you're worthless, and as long as there's no transcendent Assessor to have the final say, no one's ultimately right or wrong. In fact, without God there's really no such thing as right or wrong. John Dewey (1859-1952), the famous 20th century atheist explained, "There is no God and there is no soul. Hence, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes."1
Philosophers generally agree: without an absolute God to make the rules, there is no such thing as a moral absolute; there are only preferences. You don't actually have a right to live; you just prefer not to die. Someone else on the other hand might want to kill you regardless of how you feel about it, and who is to say that they're wrong? In the absence of absolute morality, power reigns supreme; the strong survive and the weak get exploited.
Thankfully, most governments see it as their duty to uphold what they see as your God-given right to live, and governments also happen to be the strongest institution among men (which means they can enforce morality upon those who don't necessarily agree with your right to live). The founders of the United States of America put it well when they declared, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." Unfortunately, some governments don't share this worldview and their people suffer terribly for it.
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Submitted by EchoBoxing (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:34:07 (#)
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this is philosophy 100 bullshit.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:33:40 (#)
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Yeah, this is just preachy shit.
Looks like you were wrong.
By the way, looks like a copy/paste job...
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:32:33 (#)
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Just for telling me what I would think is a good read.
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Submitted by EchoBoxing (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:34:07 EDT (#)
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this is philosophy 100 bullshit.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:33:40 EDT (#)
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Yeah, this is just preachy shit.
Looks like you were wrong.
By the way, looks like a copy/paste job...
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-04-27 18:32:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Just for telling me what I would think is a good read.