Operation Northwoods (A Government Gone Mad) (2709 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-05-02 17:07:02 EDT
The following are portions of the Northwoods documents from 1962 with my highlights and commentary. It is important all Americans at least familiarize themselves with these documents for the sake of understanding the lengths to which our government is sometimes willing to go to get what it wants or wage war on an innocent nation. I think it is also important we remain diligent in demanding our government fully explain and investigate any and ALL incidents of domestic and military installation attacks, especially when they are being cited as a reason for going to war.
If you would like to read the entire documents (it's not that long) go here:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Otherwise, enjoy.
User Reviews
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2006-07-21 15:24:48 EDT (#)
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A government... gone... M.A.D.!!!
FUCK OFF
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-06-18 00:22:02 EDT (#)
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STFU, you shitty ETS wannabe.
Submitted by Happily_Agnostic (user info) at 2006-06-18 00:17:51 EDT (#)
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Plus FUCKING 2
Keep spreading the truth
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-06-09 15:23:59 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-05-22 19:56:18 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2006-05-21 17:34:50 EDT (#)
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So what's your point?
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-05-21 16:48:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-05-09 10:41:23 (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:33:59 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:26:53 (#)
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Never have I voted until now. Today was the first day I went to vote
ever in my life. I went to vote even though it was a primary and I'm
an Independent. Apparently I hadn't registered in time anyway. Takes
30 days apparently. But come November I'll be ready.
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Hahaha, this piece of shit is almost thrity, has written hundreds of tirades against the GOvt and he has never voted???
I didn't think my respect for him could be any lower.
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Listen, fishy, when you get to my age, almost twice that of ETS,
you'll learn to recognize when someone is writing shit to fuck with
the crowd. You took the bait.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-05-16 08:30:19 EDT (#)
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tip tap tippy tap tippy tap tip tip tap!
What are you doing apollo?
DANCING ON HIS UBERGRAVE.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2006-05-10 13:30:21 EDT (#)
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I like how you have one section for your sociopolitical commentary, and another section for "nonfiction".
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-05-09 10:41:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:33:59 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:26:53 (#)
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Never have I voted until now. Today was the first day I went to vote
ever in my life. I went to vote even though it was a primary and I'm
an Independent. Apparently I hadn't registered in time anyway. Takes
30 days apparently. But come November I'll be ready.
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Hahaha, this piece of shit is almost thrity, has written hundreds of tirades against the GOvt and he has never voted???
I didn't think my respect for him could be any lower.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2006-05-09 04:59:15 EDT (#)
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haha
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-05-08 21:05:49 EDT (#)
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buh bye, fuckwit.
You'll be back in 10 days...two weeks, tops.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-05-07 13:23:37 EDT (#)
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Yep, those pictures were definitely of flight 93. Couldn't
have been generic plane crash pictures. Nope.
What do porno sluts know about politics?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-05-04 10:12:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-04 07:21:38 (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-03 15:51:32 (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:41:44 (#)
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ets problem is that he acts like hes telling us things we dont already know/believe.
"oh my god. *slaps gaping-mouthed face in shock* you mean our governments *lie* to us on a regular basis!? where would i be without the guiding light of all knowledge, ets!???"
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Actually I think his problem is that he can't understand how you can believe this stuff and yet still be so blasé about it. He knows you know it, he just can't get his head round why you aren't mad about it.
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He is mad about it?
But not mad enough to vote.
Not mad enough to go out and protest.
Not mad enough to go out and get a degree so he would be in a position to make a legitimate change.
Not mad enough to do anything that takes effort like writing the IRS and asking for his money back on moral grounds.
Not mad enough to leave the country.
Not mad enough to do anything except try and call us sheep because we aren't mad enough.
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YES! "À la fin de l'envoi, je touche!"
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-05-04 10:10:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-03 15:51:32 (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:41:44 (#)
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ets problem is that he acts like hes telling us things we dont already know/believe.
"oh my god. *slaps gaping-mouthed face in shock* you mean our governments *lie* to us on a regular basis!? where would i be without the guiding light of all knowledge, ets!???"
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Actually I think his problem is that he can't understand how you can believe this stuff and yet still be so blasé about it. He knows you know it, he just can't get his head round why you aren't mad about it.
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I can't get my head around why you two can't realize how much you are fucking pathetic. That doesn't mean I'm going to get mad about it and threaten to kill you if you don't submit to my opinion (which in this case is rather factual).
When you understand the basics of human communication (I assume you don't since you had to travel thousands of miles to end up with a lunatic), we'll listen to anything you have to say.
Until then, shove your holier-than-thou attitude up your British tight ass and put a leash on your Internet husband.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-05-04 08:30:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:25:07 (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-05-03 10:45:48 (#)
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Don't let the world bring you down, ETS.
Not everyone here is that fucked up and cold.
Remember why you came and why you're alive...experience the warmth before you go.
And yes I just quoted Incubus.
Seriously, man, don't let the haters get to ya.
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this guy is a tool.
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I love you too, wardy!
Seriously...you guys take ETS too seriously. Remember, IT'S JUST A WEBSITE. For all we know, the perceived posturing and pretentiousness is just meant to rile folks up. And if that's the case, then he's certainly accomplished that.
Pardon me for not bending to the crowd and choosing to read his posts with an unbiased eye.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-05-04 07:43:40 EDT (#)
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I rarely agree with Indon but I do now.
Brads a fucking nutjob and whats he doing? fuck all. What does he expect people who like the status quo and don't give a shit about what happens in politics to do if he's doing nothing.
Ghandi was a whiny little bitch but he got one thing right.
Phrased it like he wanted to be jesus or something though.
You want something doing do it yourself, and maybe someone else will see you and help.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-04 07:21:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-03 15:51:32 (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:41:44 (#)
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ets problem is that he acts like hes telling us things we dont already know/believe.
"oh my god. *slaps gaping-mouthed face in shock* you mean our governments *lie* to us on a regular basis!? where would i be without the guiding light of all knowledge, ets!???"
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Actually I think his problem is that he can't understand how you can believe this stuff and yet still be so blasé about it. He knows you know it, he just can't get his head round why you aren't mad about it.
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He is mad about it?
But not mad enough to vote.
Not mad enough to go out and protest.
Not mad enough to go out and get a degree so he would be in a position to make a legitimate change.
Not mad enough to do anything that takes effort like writing the IRS and asking for his money back on moral grounds.
Not mad enough to leave the country.
Not mad enough to do anything except try and call us sheep because we aren't mad enough.
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2006-05-04 06:40:41 EDT (#)
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it was pretty paranoid times to be fair, mainly due to the russians being a little psychologically damaged after the war - and I suppose the imminent destruction of the planet was a pretty good reason for these drastic measures. im sure the russians had some equally cunning plans.
if I cared about your country (which I don't), I would be more concerned about US funding of anti-communist rebels such as the Contras through drug traffiking, pretty much causing the L.A crack epidemic in the 80s.
I suppose screwing the niggers and the commi's in one hit was a little too tempting
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-03 15:51:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:41:44 (#)
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ets problem is that he acts like hes telling us things we dont already know/believe.
"oh my god. *slaps gaping-mouthed face in shock* you mean our governments *lie* to us on a regular basis!? where would i be without the guiding light of all knowledge, ets!???"
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Actually I think his problem is that he can't understand how you can believe this stuff and yet still be so blasé about it. He knows you know it, he just can't get his head round why you aren't mad about it.
Submitted by mono_blanco (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:50:22 EDT (#)
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Post was great.
But I hope you don't go also. Not just because I agree with you on a lot of things (although still not on immigration policy), and not just because I enjoy the posts. But also because your posts somehow manage to provide a ton of insight into the personalities of the other users. And I don't mean this in some trivial sense of taking sides, as if I learned (which I didn't) that "people who agree with ETS are nice/good, and people who don't are mean/bad." Rather, as a focal point for contentious debate, your posts provided particularly good opportunities to see all the complicated ways in which different users responded at different times.
Take care!
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:41:44 EDT (#)
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ets problem is that he acts like hes telling us things we dont already know/believe.
"oh my god. *slaps gaping-mouthed face in shock* you mean our governments *lie* to us on a regular basis!? where would i be without the guiding light of all knowledge, ets!???"
hes a self-righteous fuckwit who doesnt really have any leg to stand on because he claims he some political activist, yet he doesnt even vote. i dont vote either, but this is because i have accepted the fact that no matter what party i vote for, im gonna get pretty much identical politics, and have resigned myself to the fact that i am a peon at the beck and call of multinational corporations.
he makes out like he is passionate, when he is jsut as apathetic as me, he just wants to beleive otherwise. its an ego trip for him, and we all see it and call him out on it.
hopefully he is gone, he's a one-trick pony and i was utterly tired of his batshit shenanigans. it was funny for a while, btu there are only so many times you can have the exact same argument with someone.
say hi to your mother for me, bradley. and be nice to her - she pays all your bills. show some gratitude.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:27:32 EDT (#)
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Seriously, I think the odds stand at:
60% He'll be back within the day.
20% He'll be back within the week.
10% His Charlie Sheen-styled conspirobabble will land him a spot on talk radio..
8% He's joined an online cult.
2% He'll leave his parent's basement and step outside to get the mail. His blood, free of the co2 and radon, will charge with oxegyn and vitamin D, the sudden burst of activity will charge dormant endorphins, and he'll go on to find a girl and lead a somewhat normal life.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:25:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-05-03 10:45:48 (#)
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Don't let the world bring you down, ETS.
Not everyone here is that fucked up and cold.
Remember why you came and why you're alive...experience the warmth before you go.
And yes I just quoted Incubus.
Seriously, man, don't let the haters get to ya.
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this guy is a tool.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:16:26 EDT (#)
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You've finally gone off the deep end.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2006-05-03 11:12:54 EDT (#)
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Pretty fucking solid.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-05-03 10:45:48 EDT (#)
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Don't let the world bring you down, ETS.
Not everyone here is that fucked up and cold.
Remember why you came and why you're alive...experience the warmth before you go.
And yes I just quoted Incubus.
Seriously, man, don't let the haters get to ya.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2006-05-03 10:40:10 EDT (#)
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wow.
Method broke ETS.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-05-03 10:28:07 EDT (#)
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I thought that was interesting and for once ETS is just passing out information like a normal person instead of screaming "DID IS EVIDENCE OF A 9/11 COVERT-OP...BOW TO ME!"
-1 for making a salute when you'll be back in less than an hour.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:55:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:43:33 (#)
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A new kinder, gentler ETS.
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i vote we force feed him valiums and xanax until he calms down enough to not be a douchebag.
sidenote: funny thing about the document stuff above is normally if something's classified and then all of a sudden not classified it's marked as declassified not unclassified. unclassified is usually a note on something that was never a secret.
yes, i do know this for a fact. i almost got detained on a navy boat because i did the "oooooh what's that thing" because no one was supervising me and found out the harder way why i shouldn't touch/look at/read things i find just laying on consoles. it's funny all the crap they cover up and then the shit they leave out is the stuff they don't really want you to see.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:44:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:36:36 (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:57:17 (#)
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I had a history professor once who said that most Americans would be shocked if they knew what their government was really up to.
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eh. i pretty much understand they'd rape their own mothers to "protect" the american people.
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Yeah. Kind of like with those secret CIA prisons in Poland or wherever . . . I just don't really find it "shocking." Maybe growing up during the tail end of the Cold War just preconditioned me to accept that there were things happening that I wouldn't want to know about. But there's that Jack Nickolson thing from A Few Good Men to consider . . . I WANT him up on that fense. I NEED him up on that fense. Etc.
YOU'RE GOD DAMNED RIGHT I'D ORDER A CODE RED IF MY MEN'S LIVES WERE ON THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:43:33 EDT (#)
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The funny thing is that most of us agree with ETS and hate the government, and know that most of the shit they feed us is a bunch of lies. I believe Flight 93 was shot down by a U.S. Fighter plane over that field in PA. A friend of mine who just got back from Afghanistan in the Marines in 2003 told me as much, without me even asking him, and he explained why, and I believe him. He has no reason to lie.
I, and most others here, just hate ETS' method of delivery. It's infuriating, and it's a lost cause now. No matter what he does or says, he's going to be attacked because he doesn't know how to approach people.
That's why I think ETS is going to retire his user account, create a new one, and try a different approach.
A new kinder, gentler ETS.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:36:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:57:17 (#)
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I had a history professor once who said that most Americans would be shocked if they knew what their government was really up to.
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eh. i pretty much understand they'd rape their own mothers to "protect" the american people.
Submitted by JumpingJax (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:19:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:46:19 (#)
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Did you know there's such a thing as a dumbass alter who is really JonnyX?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:47:12 (#)
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Whazzamatter Jonny???
Got no comeback after being proven wrong?
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LOL
Conspiracy Theory #29535491
Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2006-05-03 09:17:38 EDT (#)
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How dare the US play the world's policeman and fabricate evidence against a suspect.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:57:17 EDT (#)
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I had a history professor once who said that most Americans would be shocked if they knew what their government was really up to.
indeed
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:33:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:26:53 (#)
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Never have I voted until now. Today was the first day I went to vote
ever in my life. I went to vote even though it was a primary and I'm
an Independent. Apparently I hadn't registered in time anyway. Takes
30 days apparently. But come November I'll be ready.
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Hahaha, this piece of shit is almost thrity, has written hundreds of tirades against the GOvt and he has never voted???
I didn't think my respect for him could be any lower.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:26:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Never have I voted until now. Today was the first day I went to vote
ever in my life. I went to vote even though it was a primary and I'm
an Independent. Apparently I hadn't registered in time anyway. Takes
30 days apparently. But come November I'll be ready.
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Hahaha, this piece of shit is almost thrity, has written hundreds of tirades against the GOvt and he has never voted???
I didn't think my respect for him could be any lower.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:13:53 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/87344#1961746 -- i thought you said you were leaving.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:05:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-03 07:56:05 (#)
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Well, I don't know how I feel about ETS leaving. It's like, what would happen if Gargamel actually DID capture the Smurfs one day and ate them. THEN what?
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Did you just compare yourself to Gargamel and ETS to a smurf.
I don't know if that is funny or sad....
Which smurf was he?
Submitted by WildcatMcGee (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:02:58 EDT (#)
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Man, you really hate the US don't you? Too bad we can't black-bag you and make you disappear. Completely and utterly disappear.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-03 07:56:05 EDT (#)
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Well, I don't know how I feel about ETS leaving. It's like, what would happen if Gargamel actually DID capture the Smurfs one day and ate them. THEN what?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-05-03 07:29:05 EDT (#)
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Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey hey, goodbye
I am sure you have already signed up with your alter, you fucking idiot.
You do realize operations northwood was just a plan?
Yes our country is capable of exploring horrendous and evil ideas, and so it should. But where do you get off saying they are ready to "carry out" (your words) such ideas?
Do you remember plan orange (maybe the wrong color)? It was the plan pre WWII to invade Australia. We had one for England too, I am sure they had one for us. A plan doesn't mean we do something. Someone from the DoD came up with a plan to blow up the Mecca in response to 9/11, did we do it?
YOu talk about your plan to stomp wardy to death, but you won't do it. Of course that isn't for moral reasons, it is because you are a fucking pussy who does nothing but talk.
Five bucks says he will be back, in a week. Two weeks back on this account.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-05-03 04:06:05 EDT (#)
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I look at those pics and I don't see a black box...I wonder what's on
the tape contained within it I've never been allowed to hear.
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They found the black box on flight 93, it was only the last three seconds that they couldn't or wouldn't recover, it was in one of the films you linked us to. So you've seen transcripts of it.
Well, I for one think there is something wrong with the whole 9/11 event but I just couldn't cope with the way you argued or presented your information and therefore probably came across as someone who didn't believe you.
Nothing you presented was new or earth shattering, I've been reading these web pages and looking at the DVD's for 3 or 4 years.
As for previous American conspiracies or for that matter any conspiracies about Free Energy, or oil companies suppressing information or technology, it is all there in the public domain for people to CHOOSE to look at and read, none of us need it ramming down our throats.
It's been fun. I'll miss you.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-03 03:25:28 EDT (#)
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I feel like we should salute or something. Do anyone play the bugle?
Submitted by Chroniclysm (user info) at 2006-05-03 03:01:05 EDT (#)
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Don't bother leaving. You're still going to say your piece and you might as well say it to people who will tend to disagree.
You've made some good points over the last few months, and some crazy ones too, but that's how you figure out the truth.
Point. Counterpoint.
There's more than meets the eye with this government, or maybe so much meets the eye that it's hard to see, but don't run away from this stupid website with your tail between your legs. You still have things to say. You might as well say them.
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2006-05-03 01:31:59 EDT (#)
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holy fuck
Submitted by The_Cyst_Master (user info) at 2006-05-03 01:04:19 EDT (#)
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PEOPLE STILL READ YOUR SHIT? WHAT THE FUCK
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2006-05-02 23:39:39 EDT (#)
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Odds on how long til the first NEW ETS alter shows up?
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2006-05-02 23:00:03 EDT (#)
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NO ETS DON'T LEAVE US!
METHOD YOU LITTLE BITCH, GOD DAMN YOU, NOW WHOSE CRAZY ASS THEORIES WILL I HAVE TO LAUGH AT? WHO IS AS CRAZY AS ETS? METHOD DAMN IT, I HOPE THE BITCH YOU ARE GING OUT WITH TONIGHTS GIVES YOU AIDS, HERPES, CRABS AND THE CLAP. DIE METHOD DIE. <weeeeeeeps>
Submitted by knucklesnelson (user info) at 2006-05-02 22:27:30 EDT (#)
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I say too fuckin good to be true. Any hoot YAAAAAAAAAY!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 22:20:17 EDT (#)
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Before I go, just wanted you all to know I harbor no hard feelings
toward anyone. It was good to meet you all. Maybe I'll run into some
of you sometime down the road, who knows.
As for my political views...I know they're not exactly mainstream, but
I feel strongly about them. I don't believe in blind trust. Never
have. Never will. I trust no one and nothing but myself in this world.
I take that back. There are some people I will always trust with my
life. To truly connect with people we have to trust them. Trust is a
function of love, I guess.
I know this, when it comes to my leaders in this god-forsaken country,
I trust no one. I would like to be able to think that my government
would never do such a thing as I think they did on 9/11, but I've seen
too much and read too much to ever go back to OZ.
I wish we lived in a world where I didn't feel like I had to talk
about these things. I wish I could just smile and lighten up all the
time, but I've gotta tell ya...I'm afraid. I'm afraid of what the
future will hold for us and our children in the decades to come. There
is so much wrong in the world right now, it's no wonder I sound crazy
talking about it sometimes; I don't even know where to start. But,
true to my word, I know when to stop.
Despite the fact that I look at those pictures and see 3 recognizable
pieces of airplane out of all of them, there is no 'incontrovertible
proof' in any of them. No matter how many times I look, I see a field
blanketed with lies.
Maybe one day I'll wake up and realize it was just me after all...some
malfunction in my brain that caused a general paranoia directed at my
21st century militarized government. Maybe I'm just a product of
something I did to myself as a kid.
I know this... I know that my distrust leads me to look at those
pictures and not see what IS there...rather, I see what is NOT there.
There are no bodies. The crash site doesn't look anything like any
crash site I've ever seen of a plane that size. I guess they expected
us to believe the rest of the plane just disintegrated except those few
small bits....and I guess they were right. We believed it well enough.
I look at those pics and I don't see a black box...I wonder what's on
the tape contained within it I've never been allowed to hear.
I look at the document above and read the part where the submarine
would scatter debris of the airplane to be found later by recovery
teams, and I read the part where the pilots flying with the 'attacked'
plane were to be unwittingly party to the lie, and I look at the
mindless sea of flagwaving patriots seething for war...itching for
revenge. I remember how I was once one of them. I remember my hatred
for a man I did not know. I remember seeing the people leaping from
the buildings...eyes closed tight...their last living thoughts
burning their brains...and I remember having to pinch myself to know I
wasn't dreaming. Well, I look at those same videos today of those
airplanes crashing into the sides of those buildings and still, I
have to pinch myself...I still wonder if I might be dreaming...
but this time I see something completely different. This time I see
who my true enemy is. I know it is partially myself.
Never have I voted until now. Today was the first day I went to vote
ever in my life. I went to vote even though it was a primary and I'm
an Independent. Apparently I hadn't registered in time anyway. Takes
30 days apparently. But come November I'll be ready.
I know the lengths to which the enemy will go to get what they want,
and I know they hold little value for human life. The least I can do
is do my research, cast my vote, and hope.
Maybe the depth of my distrust of my government says something, though,
about us...and what we've become. Maybe it says something about the
difficulties of leading what amounts to an empire. Maybe it says that
I'm just not quite ready to accept the extent of the cruelty of nature
and reality. Maybe it says my childhood was too happy and therefore my
vision is cloaked in clouds of sugar. Who knows.
I know this though... There are some interesting times we live in. And
there should be some interesting times yet to come.
I only hope liberty and humanity can find a way.
Goodbye everyone...and good luck.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/electrictoothsyndrome/memorial_items.jpg
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:52:19 EDT (#)
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I really don't give a shit, I'm going out in a little bit to get drunk with a really cute girl. When I come back, I fully expect to see ETS foaming at the mouth.
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:46:50 EDT (#)
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Method, we all know he'll never leave but we can hope can't we?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:46:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:33:13 (#)
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http://pittsburgh.about.com/library/pictures/shanksville/uc_flight_93-5.htm
http://pittsburgh.about.com/library/pictures/shanksville/uc_flight_93-8.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
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HAHAHAH
Bye bye ETS.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:43:34 EDT (#)
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The tension mounts...
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:40:01 EDT (#)
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He won't ever leave. I'm calling it right now. He'll say those pictures prove nothing, and not even Jesus Christ himself is floating in the photo with a sign that says "THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE FLIGHT 93 CRASH, BRADLEY" will convince him otherwise
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:39:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:23:59 (#)
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Dude:
President Nixon authorized the Watergate break-in.
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Uh, Razor, Nixon didn't authorize the break-in. He learned about it after the fact and covered it up. But you keep reading the Boston Globe big guy.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:39:57 EDT (#)
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Method - ETS will say that those pieces are far too small to be considered legitimate enough.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:39:38 EDT (#)
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Points, two.
1. All you americans going on about Cuba wanting to blow you up are talking out of your arse.
they had bombs pointed at you? No shit fucktard, so did most of the USSR and you had weapons pointed right back.
Why the fuck is it alright for you to hold a gun to their head but not vice versa.
Castro isn't exactly an insane man, you may disagree with his government, but it is stable and I do not beleive he would ever nuke anyone unless they were nuking him.
2. I was not incredulous to the fact that the US govt. 'did' 11/9. I was arguing, simply, that the theory you suggest is impossible, if you had simply claimed that it was the US govt that crashed the planes into the buildings you would have a much easier argument. Do you not see that you are making yourself a straw-man by insisting upon the easily disproovable thermite suggestion?
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:38:41 EDT (#)
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Method wins!
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:37:17 EDT (#)
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http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/index.php?sortby=datedesc#photos
There you go ETS. Scroll down a bit.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:36:49 EDT (#)
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I haven't bothered, nor will I bother because all you will do is tell everybody that your L337 H4CK1NG SK1LLZ traced the pictures back to a non-government website, therefore it cannot be considered legit. Every argument against you is rebutted with the same tired argument: "That's what the government WANTS you to think!!" or some derivative, and to tell you the truth, it's not infuriating anymore. It's pathetic.
The point of my review was to point out that you will find every way possible (coherent or not) to argue against people who supply evidence, just so you won't have to make good on your empty promises.
Don't bother telling people that you'll leave when we all know that you're too wrapped up in yourself to care to follow through with something like that.
By the way, have you paid your taxes this month like you said you wouldn't? Or did you cower out of that promise too?
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:36:11 EDT (#)
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Although ETS will say that it proves nothing, since those could be fake photos set up to look like the crash site, and doesn't prove that they're actually from THAT crash site
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:34:10 EDT (#)
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My bad, that second site is in frames, click through all the pictures
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:33:13 EDT (#)
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http://pittsburgh.about.com/library/pictures/shanksville/uc_flight_93-5.htm
http://pittsburgh.about.com/library/pictures/shanksville/uc_flight_93-8.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4904832.stm
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:31:39 EDT (#)
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People, STOP THROWING HYPOTHETICALS AT ME AND JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING PHOTO!
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:30:46 EDT (#)
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ETS, even if I showed you inconvtrovertible proof that you were wrong, you would not believe me, would you? You would assume I doctored the evidence. So why do you bother pretending you're open minded?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:30:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:23:59 (#)
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Dude:
President Nixon authorized the Watergate break-in.
Does that mean that all American presidents of the future could theoretically do the same thing?
Theoretically, yes.
Does it mean they did it?
No.
Your role here as 9/11 conspiracy theorist has garnered you enough hits. Go find something else. The amount of time you spend researching and preparing these things is preposterous... go get some fresh air and as you called it "slip off the grid for awhile".
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You too? Great. That's just fucking great, dude. Slap me in the nuts while you're at it.
Tell you what, find me a photo of flight 93 in that field or a body and I'll take my leave.
In the meantime, this has nothing to do with hits. If it makes you feel any better, I'll email Bart and have him take all my hits away.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:25:19 EDT (#)
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Can you find one, Maiorano?
Find me a photo.
Go to google.com and do an image search for "shanksville pennsylvania" "flight 93 crash site"...whatever. Just find me a single picture with bodies or plane parts... Anything but a smouldering hole in the ground will do.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:23:59 EDT (#)
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Dude:
President Nixon authorized the Watergate break-in.
Does that mean that all American presidents of the future could theoretically do the same thing?
Theoretically, yes.
Does it mean they did it?
No.
Your role here as 9/11 conspiracy theorist has garnered you enough hits. Go find something else. The amount of time you spend researching and preparing these things is preposterous... go get some fresh air and as you called it "slip off the grid for awhile".
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:23:18 EDT (#)
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Find me a photograph from a source from which I can trace it back to either government released evidence or a major media site.
You'll be hard pressed to even find one that's doctored.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:18:24 EDT (#)
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UBER: Hey ETS, I found a photograph of plane rubble. Please leave now.
ETS: The photo was doctored!!!11 This is a government coverup!!! THEY ARE NOT REEEEEAAAAAALLLL!!!!
UBER: Dude, you asked for proof, here it is! Will you please shut the fuck up and-
ETS (holding hands over ears): YOU'RE WRONG!! I'M RIGHT!!! THE US GOVERNMENT IS BAD!!!! I WILL CONTINUE TO REBEL AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT BY TYPING ON MY COMPUTER IN THE COMFORT OF MY HOME IN THE USA!!!!!1
UBER: You always do this!! Every time we back you into a corner you hold your hands and scream the same thing we've heard you say for the past two years!
ETS: Oh yeah!? Name ONE time I've been backed into a corner!!
UBER: Are..... are you serious?
ETS: SEE!? I knew you couldn't do it!
UBER: Dude..... your convoluted logic makes it impossible to argue anything with you, so I'm not even going to point out-
ETS: YEEEEE!!!!! I WIN, I AM NOW A REVOLUTIONARY!!!
UBER: Yeah, ok Mr. Guevara. You can come out of that corner now.
ETS: There is no corner, no spoon, and no other way than the ETS way.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-05-02 19:18:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:56:53 (#)
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In fact, I will gladly leave ubersite and never come back again...so help me god.
JESUS FUCK, QUICK, SOMEONE PHOTOSHOP SOME BURNT LUGGAGE INTO AN EMPTY FIELD OR SOMETHING
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:56:53 EDT (#)
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I need everyone's help on something...
I need you all to help me find every page on the internet that looks like this: http://www.geocities.com/kellyspace2/United/United.html
Then I need you to help me email them challenging them to produce ONE SINGLE PHOTOGRAPH of a piece of a plane or a dead body from the field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
ONE PICTURE....and I'll shut up about 9/11 forever.
You guys will never have to hear about it again.
Likewise, if one of you would care to find me just ONE PICTURE from where Flight 93 allegedly crashed that shows me a piece of fuselage, a piece of luggage, an engine, a wing, or a body, I'll forever hold my peace on this issue.
In fact, I will gladly leave ubersite and never come back again...so help me god.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:43:15 EDT (#)
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Only took 21 reviews for someone to start issuing threats.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:35:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:34:15 (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:18:49 (#)
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Dude, you should take a few more hits of acid so you can use your ESP to find out what I'm thinking right now.
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"liek yo history suxxorz!!!1!!!11! lololollollll!! :))))))))"
There's no need for a prize - your continued silence will be payment enough.
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Lay off the lady before I awesome your fucking face off.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:34:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:18:49 (#)
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Dude, you should take a few more hits of acid so you can use your ESP to find out what I'm thinking right now.
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"liek yo history suxxorz!!!1!!!11! lololollollll!! :))))))))"
There's no need for a prize - your continued silence will be payment enough.
Submitted by Brendon (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:24:51 EDT (#)
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awesomeface is abnormally dumb surely.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:23:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:10:14 (#)
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JonnyX never stated that there was any chronological importance to date of the document and the cuban missle crisis.
He just said that they were GOING TO BLOW THE FUCK OUT OF US!!!!
retard.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I fuckin' TOLD YOU, Kathy! Look at this! America at its absolute finest.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:21:35 EDT (#)
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I don't think the point is arguing over whether or not they wanted to use nuclear weapons on us, but the point was taking note of just how much the government will fabricate facts and events to get what they want to take place to take place. I'm sorry, but in my book, probable cause isn't enough provocation for the destruction of civilians, whether our own or not. Why else would I oppose an invasion of Iraq based soley on weapons we're pretty sure they have that we think they'd use against us?
Submitted by turkishblend (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:19:42 EDT (#)
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scary
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:18:49 EDT (#)
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Dude, you should take a few more hits of acid so you can use your ESP to find out what I'm thinking right now.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:10:14 EDT (#)
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JonnyX never stated that there was any chronological importance to date of the document and the cuban missle crisis.
He just said that they were GOING TO BLOW THE FUCK OUT OF US!!!!
retard.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-05-02 18:07:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I don't care what you need to do to get nuclear weapons pointed away from us. I would be willing to die on the battlefield for this country or in a cover up. I don't give a fuck. I love this country.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:47:12 EDT (#)
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Whazzamatter Jonny???
Got no comeback after being proven wrong?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:46:19 EDT (#)
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Did you know there's such a thing as a dumbass alter who is really JonnyX?
Submitted by JumpingJax (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:40:47 EDT (#)
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Did you know there is such a thing as an Oversoul?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:40:10 EDT (#)
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Kathy: watch as the stupid Americans try to defend their country with rhetoric when there is a clear malicious and unjustified attack being conspired here. It's amazing the lengths to which some people will go to keep up an illusion they've always believed.
Do I have to say it????
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:38:04 EDT (#)
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Doesn't matter, Kathy. JonnyX is completely wrong on his timeline.
This document came out in March of '62.
The missiles didn't arrive in Cuba till October of '62.
This document even talks about no evidence existing at this point that Cuba is in collusion with the U.S.S.R. yet.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:35:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:21:57 (#)
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Did you forget that they had nucleat weapons pointed at us, and were MORE than willing to use them?
Hardly an 'innocent' nation.
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If that was adequate justification in itself, why go to the trouble of fabricating more threats?
"It's good to lie so long as the thing we are lying about is bad"
Doesn't make much sense to me, but then I have a childs understanding of politics that centers mainly around a a strong dislike of Jackie O glasses.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:33:41 EDT (#)
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That is...if they even had missiles in the first fucking place. Who knows!
Considering the contents of this document, the government was prepared to go to war with Cuba at all costs, and would have pinned anything on them they possibly could. The media of the time was even easier to manipulate than it is now. Not hard to see how our government is not to be trusted in these matters whatsoever.
It is of note though that it has been said that had Kennedy not demanded on national TV that Cuba remove those missiles in October of that year, that the military brass was prepared to usurp power in the United States for reasons of 'national security'. (Not sure about the source on that last bit. It's just puked up from memory.)
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:29:30 EDT (#)
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Northwoods Documents circulated: 13, March 1962
The Cuban Missile Crisis, October 18-29, 1962
It's no wonder they got missiles. I'd get fucking missiles too if the U.S. was my fucking neighbor.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:21:57 EDT (#)
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If there is one lesson that can be taken from this document, it is this:
you are a complete and utter douchebag.
Did you forget that they had nucleat weapons pointed at us, and were MORE than willing to use them?
Hardly an 'innocent' nation.
As usual, your selective use of facts and context puts you squarely in the 'tinfoil-headgear' section of Ubersite.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:21:51 EDT (#)
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+2 crazy
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:15:31 EDT (#)
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Nice choice of highlighter, you pinko commie son of a bitch.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-05-02 17:13:18 EDT (#)
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To whomever it was that spent one American dollar on the Uberboard - and I realize that for some of you, this represents a huge percentage of your weekly bring home pay - I am currently working on a new post and expect to have to finished, complete with new camwhore to use on all of your photoshop projects, sometime between Thursday and September 4th.
Please, Shlongy asks for your patience. Thank you.
PS. You're a fucking idiot.