Whats Brown Bagging all about? (1464 hits)
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Submitted by Corn Nugget (View user info) at 2006-05-05 19:44:47 EDT
We were driving through town and Erik said, "Hey, go to Habeebs so I can get a 40".
So we went to the local party-store, he ran in, and a few minutes later came in with a brown-bagged 40 in his hand.
"I wonder what the origins of that law are..."
"What law?" he asked.
"You know, if you buy single beers or liquor, it has to go in a brown bag, but you can buy a six pack or whatever, and just carry it out." Last month I bought a six pack of Old Milwaukee (for old times sake!), and Habeeb insisted that it was put in a bag, too. I don't think he really understands the law, so he's just making sure everything gets bagged.
"Maybe it's so nobody can tell you're a drunk... because really, who buys 40s except drunks?" he speculated.
"Why would the government care about that?"
"Maybe it's from the prohibition days?"
"A law about drinking when drinking wasn't allowed at all? Doesn't make sense." I shot his idea down.
As soon as we got home I tried looking it up. There was nothing on the michigan.gov site, or in the "michigan liquor laws" pdf file I downloaded.
I did a search on "brown bag", and found quite a few sites explaining how a resturant without a liquor liscence can allow customers to bring their OWN drinks for consumption. That's called "brown bagging".
But that's not the brown bagging information I wanted!
Although my Brown Bagging research proved fruitless, I have found the following interesting bits of information:
In Utah you can have several drinks in front of you in a private club, but the server cannot put them there at the same time. So if you order a margarita and a shot of Patron, don't be surprised if your server sets your margarita down, moves the ashtray, and then sets down the shot. Without that action, he or she could get a huge fine.
And, we've all heard of wine connoisseurs and even beer connoisseurs but...
40 connoisseurs? It's true: http://www.40ozmaltliquor.com/links.html
Beer stores in PA have to sell beer by the case. They can't sell less than a case, like a 12-pack or a six-pack or a single.
Anyway, I want to know why single beers (40s and 22's), bottles of liquor and wine MUST be brown bagged, and why it's illegal for the store NOT to put it in a bag when I can buy any other denomination of beer without putting it in a bag?
And, for your pleasure, here is a diagram of the best beers ever.
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Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2007-12-10 16:26:26 EST (#)
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we get bells, particularly oberon here. that could just be because the bar manager is a beer fan who likes that quite a lot. i personally love beer. My black and tan is bass with guiness on top, delicious. i had eight of them last night.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2006-05-09 23:32:07 EDT (#)
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+2 Guinness
that is the shit.
Submitted by pragmatic (user info) at 2006-05-09 23:27:43 EDT (#)
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Mmm beer... I also like Stella
If you ever manage to make it over to NZ (don't know if other countries have our beer- doubt it) try any of the Monteiths Range. their Summer Ale is particulary lovely, quite a ginger beer taste to it. But they have lots of other lovely flavours too.
But if I'm out on the piss for the evening, I drink Steinlager. All good!
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2006-05-09 22:41:49 EDT (#)
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So when they put the beer in the bag what do they do with the empty bottle afterwards?
<crickets>
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-05-08 23:49:34 EDT (#)
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Actually, there are two kinds of beer stores in PA. There are beer distributors, where you can buy cases and kegs. Then there are the bottle shops where you can get six packs, half-cases, and 40's. The state runs all of the liquor stores. The beer sellers have strict licensing, i.e. you can't get more than 96 oz at a time from a bottle shop, distributors can't be open on a Sunday, bars can't be open on sunday unless 40% of their sales are from food, etc.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-05-08 17:42:35 EDT (#)
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LETS GO CAMPING AND DRINK BEER
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-05-08 07:58:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:10:14 (#)
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In Utah you can have several drinks in front of you in a private club, but the server cannot put them there at the same time. So if you order a margarita and a shot of Patron, don't be surprised if your server sets your margarita down, moves the ashtray, and then sets down the shot. Without that action, he or she could get a huge fine.
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Methinks this is unworkable. I mean, how do you police that? Undercover observation? Silly.
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Berty, I worked the Olympics 4 years ago. That's EXACTLY how they do it. They will set a drink in front of everyone at the table, place a coaster or two, and then set any others down.
Some places that are "resturants" with bars or serve alcohol can't even allow more drinks at a table than people AT the table, and they WON'T serve you two. Want to do a Boilermaker or an ICB at Bennigans? NO CHANCE.
It sucked ass...
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 07:34:29 EDT (#)
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Apparently not. My profuse apologies. I would drink in your local. However, unlike Dervel, I would not make my own pork scratchings while I was in there.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 07:33:32 EDT (#)
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Do you mean Hopback?
Submitted by Flying_buttmonkey (user info) at 2006-05-08 07:22:16 EDT (#)
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I've never understood it either, I'm glad you guys don't. Here in Britland it's fairly common to see pikeys wandering around with a can of Special Brew around about breakfast, if not earlier and I've never seen them arresticated for it.
I went to a beer and cider festival in Reading the other week and it's totally changed my views on beer. My local is a proper ye olde pub with hand pumps (tee hee) and everything and they have guest ales every week. Nice, hoppy, still brews made by angels.
Hogs back brewery. It's the way forward.
www.onlyfinebeer.co.uk
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-08 06:45:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-05-08 04:54:12 (#)
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Putting individual bottles in brown bags was something done on American TV so that producers wouldn't have to get permission from liqour companies to use their brand (because the brand would be covered by the bag). It's not illegal to sell you a bottle of beer in, say, a clear plastic bag.
You're local brewski retailer is just ignorant. It is your place to educate him, education is everyone's responsibility. Only you can prevent ignorance.
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Berty, I'd have to say you're wrong... EVERY SINGLE store in Michigan does this.
Well, it's also possible that the law simply states "single bottles of liquor must be bagged", and paper bags are used because they are cheaper than plastic.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:58:33 EDT (#)
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Like tequila - it's the ritual as much as anything else.
Last time I had tequila I got so sick of the taste of salt that I decided to not drink it again unless I was actually in Meh-hick-co and some bandito was calling me gringo and threatening me with a knife and diarahea.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:54:03 EDT (#)
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Equalising my inadvertent +2 (no offence)
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:53:38 EDT (#)
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Why wouldn't you sell someone a snakebite? I think it's part of the mystique to give you the ingredients. Like a Muller fruit corner. Or like the ritual of wet shaving. I always enjoy that. The ritual. Running the hot tap. Shaking the can. Lathering up. The smooth, careful strokes of the razor. The sensation of shoulder stubble growing through.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:48:01 EDT (#)
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I dunno Red, although I do know that some establishments won't serve you a snakebite. They'll give you all the ingredients and a suitable glass for them but they won't actually sort it out for you.
I reckon that again this is because of an urban myth that put the wind up bar managers. Quite fascinating when you think about it, that a rumour about a law that may or may not exist has influenced bar policy on an national scale.
Submitted by redskieslookfake (user info) at 2006-05-08 05:10:14 EDT (#)
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In Utah you can have several drinks in front of you in a private club, but the server cannot put them there at the same time. So if you order a margarita and a shot of Patron, don't be surprised if your server sets your margarita down, moves the ashtray, and then sets down the shot. Without that action, he or she could get a huge fine.
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Methinks this is unworkable. I mean, how do you police that? Undercover observation? Silly.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-05-08 04:55:57 EDT (#)
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I don't think Joe Daddy is right, I mean a law specifying you have to sell stuff in brown paper bags is just ridiculous. Surely you'd just prohibit consumption of alcohol in public places.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-05-08 04:54:12 EDT (#)
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Putting individual bottles in brown bags was something done on American TV so that producers wouldn't have to get permission from liqour companies to use their brand (because the brand would be covered by the bag). It's not illegal to sell you a bottle of beer in, say, a clear plastic bag.
You're local brewski retailer is just ignorant. It is your place to educate him, education is everyone's responsibility. Only you can prevent ignorance.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-05-08 03:54:35 EDT (#)
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Oh, and on your list, you must try Easy Street Wheat.
Kick ASS.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-05-08 03:54:14 EDT (#)
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I don't think you have to bag in Colorado.
I worked at a 7-11 as a second job about 6 years ago, and I never bagged anything unless they asked.
Of course, I could have just been breaking the law.
Submitted by supadupapupa (user info) at 2006-05-08 02:49:22 EDT (#)
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I found this
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1299960
apparently there used to be a war going on between alcohol stores, so maybe they bagged so the competition wouldn't know they were getting beat.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:17:46 EDT (#)
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ok so iam home for like 2o mins and its 1:20 in the mornign, and i just cam e form hevy german drinking party, and more freinds JUST CALLED ME TO SAY GET EYOUR ASS ON BUS AND COME DOWNTOWN FOR MORE DRINKIGN
I LOVE BINGE
+2 its on me
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:16:16 EDT (#)
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NO OFFICER JODADDY IM NOT BELIGERNT! FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK IM BELIGERENT. YES.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:09:11 EDT (#)
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+2 all round, its on me
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:08:53 EDT (#)
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_2 WAHT
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:08:38 EDT (#)
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capslock is a drunksbestfriend.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:06:48 EDT (#)
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agh beer ids greay. tonight in particulear. after a great german hardvcore heavy drinking partay tingym my gay bussy HA I WROTE BUSSY i meant buddy took me home on his motobicylette. it was pretty cool except for the part where the vibration gavees me a erection and he thought i was turned on,. that wasnt so cool at all. because he was gay and i wasnt. like wasnt implies that i wasnt but now am,.im telling youj german beer is the best in the world. i mean, zindorfer, it doesnt get better than that, IT JUST DFOESNT. IT JUST DOESNT OK?!?
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2006-05-06 19:00:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-06 11:46:11 (#)
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My god, joe daddy knew the answer? Why do you know that? Do you know other interesting bits of information?
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you're welcome...and yes
if you had read a couple of my posts you would have learned that i was a cop for 24 years
Submitted by ghola (user info) at 2006-05-06 17:49:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-06 11:50:51 (#)
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Futhermore, why do you guys keep giving me bitter +2s? If you want to be bitter, by all means, spice it up with some negative ratings.
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You are strange.
It requires far too much effort to figure out what you're talking about.
I'm not cool enough to like beer though. I just don't get it. I tried stella once and I spit it all over the table. Friends were pissed.
Anyway, cheers.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-06 11:50:51 EDT (#)
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Futhermore, why do you guys keep giving me bitter +2s? If you want to be bitter, by all means, spice it up with some negative ratings.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-06 11:46:11 EDT (#)
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My god, joe daddy knew the answer? Why do you know that? Do you know other interesting bits of information?
I'm very happy and content right now. Thank you.
And Orgasm, don't be bitter because of the fact that I -2ed your buddies post. I'll have to assume that's what your problem is since I didn't know you existed before the other day. If that's not the problem... I mean, say, if the problem is simply because I'm "ugly", please accept my sincere apologies!!!
Submitted by crsunlimited (user info) at 2006-05-06 11:01:15 EDT (#)
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You are correct maiorano84. It has nothing to do with liquor licenses, but rather local city laws about drinking in public. That is why single bottles must be put in brown bags. You can get arrested in all towns I have lived in by carrying a non-bagged bottle down the street, but you will not get arrested for drinking one on your own property, provided you are not standing on a public sidewalk that goes through your yard.
Submitted by The_Cyst_Master (user info) at 2006-05-06 10:45:20 EDT (#)
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That tattoo looks kind of gay.
Of course you would have it.
Pffft. Girls.
Gross.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2006-05-06 07:13:19 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2006-05-06 03:22:07 EDT (#)
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it protects the proprietor from a citation from the ABC for serving drinks in an unlicenced bar
when the store clerk puts it in a bag, it signifys that the sale is for off-premise consumption
if the asshole/alcoholic opens it before he reaches the door, the store owner is off the hook
Submitted by simple_catalyst (user info) at 2006-05-06 00:29:26 EDT (#)
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beer is enjoyable.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2006-05-06 00:20:04 EDT (#)
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I think it's because, first of all, it's hard as shit to bag a case of anything. But mostly, you have to keep in mind that drinking out in public (except in designated areas) is illegal. Bagging a 12-pack, 6-pack, 40 oz, or even a single bottle is probably to prevent people from being prosecuted (even though it's sort of a blue law now) when a cop or the beer police sees somebody walking around with a bottle of alcohol in hand and can't tell if it's opened or not. People are least likely to drink directly out of a case because.... well..... they're fucking huge.
At least, that's what I think. It makes sense to me.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-05-05 23:40:30 EDT (#)
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Just kidding snuggles. We'd just do it dog style.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-05-05 23:38:24 EDT (#)
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I'd totally have to brown bag you to make you fit for consumption.
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2006-05-05 22:36:05 EDT (#)
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I like your tattoo. And I hate all beer.
Submitted by hollygolitely (user info) at 2006-05-05 22:33:03 EDT (#)
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It's also important that people know that I don't say that that much in real life.
Submitted by hollygolitely (user info) at 2006-05-05 22:28:41 EDT (#)
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I think that it's important that people know that Old Milwaukee and Milwaukee's Best (aka the BEAST) are not one and the same.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2006-05-05 22:22:38 EDT (#)
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I like beer
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-05-05 22:13:05 EDT (#)
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I think you have this confused with tea bagging, which I'm sure you know all about.
Submitted by knucklesnelson (user info) at 2006-05-05 21:42:35 EDT (#)
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eeewww old millwhat?
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2006-05-05 21:19:04 EDT (#)
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How obnoxious!
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2006-05-05 20:45:39 EDT (#)
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+2 Habeeb
Submitted by rosemadder (user info) at 2006-05-05 20:28:00 EDT (#)
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Fat Tire... fugghedaboutit
Submitted by Rope (user info) at 2006-05-05 20:25:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-05 19:53:13 (#)
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I just found out that the Stella I drank in Egypt is not the same Beligan beer that I assumed it to be!
How silly!
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damn, i was getting all excited about pointing that out.
guinness is the best, but not that watery shit in bottles. draft plz.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-05-05 20:20:28 EDT (#)
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Everyone must be out celebrating cinco de mayo....
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-05-05 20:11:31 EDT (#)
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auto Oberon +2
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-05-05 19:53:13 EDT (#)
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I just found out that the Stella I drank in Egypt is not the same Beligan beer that I assumed it to be!
How silly!