Oil Fields as Military Objectives: A Feasibility Study (2859 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-07-09 03:11:09 EDT
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/Petroleum/fields.htm
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Submitted by Snare (user info) at 2006-07-11 22:29:12 EDT (#)
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Caulincourt wrote:
You're right, I never read because I don't read what you are.
Could you be more condescendent?
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My apologies, Caul. I didn't mean to be condescending, and I'm sorry I caused you offense.
I was trying to say that if you take the time to read these few books you will be able to see that the various targets ETS aims at in his posts are much more interconnected than you currently credit.
The list of authors includes some of the finest minds of our time, and they have spent their lives looking deeply into the kind of issue that ETS likes to raise here. The facts they have discovered and the conclusions they draw are not something you are likely to discover from any major news source. This is because those new sources are complicit in the attempts by the powerful to control us, the populace. Their works go unreported and undebated because the world view they support, one which is grounded in observable reality, does not fit with the world view that the ruling technocrats want to foster within you and I. The world view they have so succesfully imparted to jpig and all his underinformed ilk.
See, I used to be a hard-nosed capitalist, educated in the finest business schools in my part of the world, a globalist, and a believer in the democratic leaders of the free world. But something wasn't right. The theories of free-trade and wealth-for-all didn't fit the realities of sweat-shops, third-world debt and protectionist subsidies. The rhetoric of 'promoting democracy' didn't fit with the practice of propping up Indonesia's occupation of East Timor, nor the horrors of South America. When 'they' set off a car bomb anywhere in the world it was terrorism. When 'our' contra's did it in Nicuragua it was 'freedom fighting.' Globalism was to lift the third world out of debt, and here was Argentina, globalism's poster-child, it's economy crashing for the third time in a decade. America is a democracy yet Bush was allowed to steal the presidency. Twice. And nobody seems to care.
I could see that my world view didn't work. So I started to look for answers. I stopped getting my information from newspapers and t.v. and my college lecturers and started doing basic research. Which led me to the list I have given here. Among others.
For the record I don't believe in conspiracy theories. I don't think it's all masterminded by some shadowy coalition of forces. I think that what we are seeing is simply the process of the rich and powerfull behaving in a self-interested and short-sighted fashion to protect their position. These actions create a system of market dynamics and other social forces that reinforces their efforts. This becomes a positive feedback loop. No-one's in control. No-one understands it all. But those individuals who benefit continue to act selfishly, risking global environmental disaster, economic collapse, and even nuclear war because they refuse to take collective responsibility for their modes of behaviour. Individualism in the worst sense of the word.
So if you see things around you that don't make sense. If you see your 'elected' leader repealing environmental legislation that was designed to benefit you. If you see your 'land of the free' holding political prisoners without trial. If you see the world recognising the dangers of global-warming and yet your country doing absolutely nothing about it; then you may want to start asking your own questions. And these books are a very good place to start.
Noam Chomsky; "Failed States" & "Hegemony or Survival"
John Ralston Saul; "The Collapse of Globalism"
Greg Palast; "The Best Democracy Money can Buy"
Robert Kennedy Jnr; "Crimes Against Nature"
Naomi Klein; "No Logo"
Submitted by ParlorTrick (user info) at 2006-07-11 16:08:18 EDT (#)
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Sand, beautiful sand.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-11 14:19:43 EDT (#)
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If you wouldn't mind terribly, I think I'll do both.
I'm not trying to detract from Brad's cause in the least bit. In fact, it's only on occasion that I even comment on these types of posts. I'm just trying to provide [questionably] comic relief. Well, that and I just recently discovered that I can Uber on my boss's computer (all the other pcs around here are blocked).
Actually, I'm fucked off that I left that comment now. I could've expanded that and made it into a whole post. Damnitalltohell!
I will look up that stuff about the RFID and bird flu, though. Thanks.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-11 14:01:18 EDT (#)
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Funny you should mention that silvrwolf - there's talk of using RFID tags to control and contain bird flu and those infected by it. Look it up - it's interesting stuff.
Or you just continue being sarcastic. Either is good.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-11 13:30:19 EDT (#)
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Jebus. I drop one random tongue-in-cheek comment here and it spins into a whole new debate about RFID tags.
If only now I could get people to hear the truth about bird flu. See, migratory ducks are really pissed at unladen European swallows for centuries of oppression and slavery. It's a rivalry that's as old as time. So, in a sinister plot with the help of a joint team of US/Russian/Taiwanese scientists, they developed the H5N1 strain of the influenza virus. Brave ducks and geese from the resistance voluteered to infect themselves and spread the deadly illness to the masses of tyrannical swallows. They're steeled in their resolve and will stop this war only when all swallows are either eradicated or choose to become laden once again. Little do the humans know (only I understand the mysterious Language de la Duck) that the ducks are trying to "humanize" the virus in an attempt at global domination.
WE HAVE TO STOP THE DUCKS NOW!!!
I WILL NOT STAND IDLY BY WHILE THOSE FLOATING FEATHERED BASTARDS EXECUTE THIS DIABOLICAL SCHEME!!!
I CANNOT BE SILENCED!
Fuck a bunch of ducks.
<quack>
Ow!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-11 13:27:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-07-11 13:09:45 (#)
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Could you be more condescendent?
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You have no room to talk, Caul. You're one of the worst on here. Sometimes I am too, I admit, but that's why I don't accuse others of being it.
PS: No such word as 'condescendent'. ;)
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-07-11 13:09:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snare (user info) at 2006-07-11 01:54:06 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-07-09 19:47:55 (#)
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stop shooting in every directions please (oil, 9/11, bankers, JFK, Bushes, petro-dollars...etc)
you could hardly interconnect all these things. unless you want to be an idiot on purpose.
Caul.
Read Noam Chomsky; particularly "Hegemony or Survival" and "Failed States." Read Greg Palast; "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy". Read Bobby Kennedy Jnr.; "Crimes Against Nature." Read John Ralston Saul; "The Collapse of Globalism."
For the love of your children, READ.
Get informed about what's being done to your country and your world.
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You're right, I never read because I don't read what you are.
Could you be more condescendent?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-11 11:02:34 EDT (#)
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RFID can also be your friend.... think about it.
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Yea, especially when implanted in the skin! Good times.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2006-07-11 09:48:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:58:38 (#)
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RFID is not in most products we buy. It will be, but most are holding off until the legislation is more clear on how they must be deactivated/ disabled after the sale.
RFIDs are not in monery eitheir. that's a hoax...
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RFID is inherently insecure. Anyone can read it, anyone can hack, there is no secure RFID. RFID can also be your friend.... think about it.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-11 03:39:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 21:58:15 (#)
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I misread what you said before about US visa/passport requirements, I thought you were implying you had to replace old ones for visa's and that they were no longer offering regular passports for citizens, my bad.
I am curious about the VWP, for this to work aren't all the countries in the list doing the same thing?
Also you mentioned the danish passport read from 10 meters away, do you know anymore about it (when/who did it)?
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I'm gonna do a post about RFID, so I'll see if I can answer your questions in that - need to do some more reading first to ensure I'm not talking out of my arse.
Submitted by Snare (user info) at 2006-07-11 01:54:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-07-09 19:47:55 (#)
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stop shooting in every directions please (oil, 9/11, bankers, JFK, Bushes, petro-dollars...etc)
you could hardly interconnect all these things. unless you want to be an idiot on purpose.
Caul.
Read Noam Chomsky; particularly "Hegemony or Survival" and "Failed States." Read Greg Palast; "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy". Read Bobby Kennedy Jnr.; "Crimes Against Nature." Read John Ralston Saul; "The Collapse of Globalism."
For the love of your children, READ.
Get informed about what's being done to your country and your world.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-11 00:32:27 EDT (#)
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Wow.
I had skimmed the article in the post before posting, but I'm actually reading it now, and there is some pretty mind-blowing information in here.
Very sobering. I think everyone should do their best to read this.
We're going to have to make some very serious decisions about our way of life very soon. This Congressional feasibility study was from 1975, but with the exception to the Soviet references, it could have just as well been written in 2005.
Read that study and remind yourself...30 years down the tubes.
We're running out of time.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 21:58:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 18:58:28 (#)
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And indo, if you want to check my facts on the RFID's in green cards, this is from the report of earnings for the 4th quarter of 2006 from the Lasercard Corporation, of the LaserCard Optical Memory Card fame. Note they specifically mention green cards as one of the reasons for their 64% sales increase in 2006.
"Optical memory card revenues in fiscal 2006 were from sales of Carta
d'Identita Elettronica (CIE) cards and foreign resident (PSE) cards for the Italian government's
national ID card programs, Laser Visa Border Crossing Cards and Green Cards for the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security, Permanent Resident Cards for the Canadian government,
national ID cards for a Middle Eastern country, and vehicle registration cards in two Indian
states."
http://www.lasercard.com/downloads/investor_relations/quarterly_pdf/FY06%20Q4%20Financial%20Results.pdf
Features of an "optical memory card"?
"Multi-technology: Contact and contactless chip, RFID, magnetic stripe."
http://www.lasercard.com/products.php?key=83
RFID's are already mandatory for immigrants, and pretty soon they'll be mandatory for US citizens wishing to travel outside US borders. Considering the massive cost of putting these systems in place, I'd be very suprised if you didn't find them permeating into most aspects of your life very soon. Makes it seem wise to find out a bit more about them, eh?
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I misread what you said before about US visa/passport requirements, I thought you were implying you had to replace old ones for visa's and that they were no longer offering regular passports for citizens, my bad.
I am curious about the VWP, for this to work aren't all the countries in the list doing the same thing?
Also you mentioned the danish passport read from 10 meters away, do you know anymore about it (when/who did it)?
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2006-07-10 20:21:17 EDT (#)
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needs more tear gas
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 19:34:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:26:45 (#)
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Hey, at least I have an eyewitness report that Mohammad Atta was real, learned to fly planes, and was taking what appeared to be "test flights" with other similiar people in the months before 9/11.
If anything, it seems to supoort my version of the truth a lot better than you "could haves" and "what ifs" support your's.
I actually know some facts.
Not that Mohammad Atta, might have existed, he did.
Not that he could've learning to fly, he said he was.
Not that he might have been flying ahead of time in what appeard to be practice runs, he was.
FACTS.
Open your eyes.
You know nothing for sure.
but yes, it could've been a ploy, i might've been bullshit, at least I know something.
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Who the fuck said anything about him never having existed???
I know lots of things too...my only problem is - where do I start?
How about the fact that Atta's father had been quoted as saying his son called him on September 12, 2001? How about the FACT that at least 9 of the 19 hijackers have been found to be alive to this day? Either someone else was able to board a plane posing as these people, or they never boarded the plane at all. This is not reported on any government site, even though the government has formally acknowledged it. This leaves 10 people to take over 4 planes. You do the math. I could go on and on and on with FACTS that will blow your fucking mind, but I'm sick of holding people's hands around here...look it up for yourself.
I suggest you watch the Loose Change video so you'll at least know what the hell you're trying to refute before you start.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 18:58:28 EDT (#)
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And indo, if you want to check my facts on the RFID's in green cards, this is from the report of earnings for the 4th quarter of 2006 from the Lasercard Corporation, of the LaserCard Optical Memory Card fame. Note they specifically mention green cards as one of the reasons for their 64% sales increase in 2006.
"Optical memory card revenues in fiscal 2006 were from sales of Carta
d'Identita Elettronica (CIE) cards and foreign resident (PSE) cards for the Italian government's
national ID card programs, Laser Visa Border Crossing Cards and Green Cards for the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security, Permanent Resident Cards for the Canadian government,
national ID cards for a Middle Eastern country, and vehicle registration cards in two Indian
states."
http://www.lasercard.com/downloads/investor_relations/quarterly_pdf/FY06%20Q4%20Financial%20Results.pdf
Features of an "optical memory card"?
"Multi-technology: Contact and contactless chip, RFID, magnetic stripe."
http://www.lasercard.com/products.php?key=83
RFID's are already mandatory for immigrants, and pretty soon they'll be mandatory for US citizens wishing to travel outside US borders. Considering the massive cost of putting these systems in place, I'd be very suprised if you didn't find them permeating into most aspects of your life very soon. Makes it seem wise to find out a bit more about them, eh?
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 18:03:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:47:46 (#)
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What would be the point?
Limited law enforcement applications.
No real use in tracking people unless every single transaction had you write down your name and the vendor recorded what bills you were given.
Preventing counterfeiting, I am sure the codes could be pretty easily copied.
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"What would be the point?" was my first reaction to it too. I don't know enough about it to speculate on the reasons for doing it, but I'm a curious little monkey so if I find out I'll let you know.
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:47:46 (#)
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As far as your passport info according to the State Dept website the RFID chip in US passports is optional, I know my cousin got her passport 6 months ago and she just had to send in her picture, so no biometrics. It makes no mention of it ever being mandatory.
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You're wrong on two counts. 1. what I actually said was that it is mandatory for all the passport offices that are able to create them (obviously it hasn't been rolled out everywhere yet) and 2...
"Can a request be made for a new passport to be issued without a chip?
No. Once all Passport Agencies have been equipped to issue the new passport, all newly issued passports will be electronic."
SOURCE: US Dept of State Passport FAQ http://travel.state.gov/passport/eppt/eppt_2788.html
I say "no, you cannot obtain a new passport that is not an e-passport" would equate to mandatory, wouldn't you?
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:47:46 (#)
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For foreign visitors if you are under the VWP you aren't required to have an E passport, and it is available to UK citizens. If you have to get a Visa though you might be right.
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Again, you need to read what I said a little more closely - it comes into force on Oct 26th of this year for all passports obtained after oct 26th of this year. After that date, even those normally under the visa waiver program must have an e-passport or they will be forced to get a visa.
"If a traveler cannot meet the requirements explained below, he/she cannot travel without a visa on VWP and must obtain a visa for entry into the United States.
All VWP travelers, regardless of age or type of passport used, must present m achine-readable passports; previous one-time exemptions for first-time VWP travelers without MRPs ended June 26, 2005. In addition, depending on when VWP travelers' passports were issued, other passport requirements will apply:
* Machine-readable passports issued or renewed/extended between 10/26/05 and 10/25/06 - requires digital photograph printed on the data page or integrated chip with information from the data page.
* Machine-readable passports issued or renewed/extended on or after 10/26/06 - requires integrated chip with information from the data page (e-passport).
SOURCE: US Dept of State VWP page http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 18:01:40 EDT (#)
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That's the problem:
if 9/11 is actually true, then there is no gaps to fill in.
i mean there's always small things to talk about, but if 9/11 really was just nutso terrorists then it's pretty cut and try.
it's that way with every conspiracy.
The governement can say that the planes knocked the building down, but how can they really fill in these "gaps" people mention? Like the accusation that bombs were in the buildings. They can't exactlly prove it wrong can they? All they can say is, "Umm no. We didn't put no bombs there."
Fact is, if the goverment is really not to blame like i believe they are, they'll never be able to quiet the consipracy people.
Look at JFK. I've seen multiple specails on television where people actually recreated the magic bullet shot perfectly, but people still don't believe that.
Fact is, there will never be a way to declare a truth to something like this unless the U.S. is responsible and one day just goes, "Oh yeah, we did do it."
I'm out.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:50:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:42:54 (#)
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I've never heard an eyewitness report that the goverment blew up the trade centers.
or that they put boms in them.
or that they remotely controlled the planes.
ot that they let the passengers off before the bombings.
or that there was dummy planes that hit the trade centers.
or that...
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it's not proof, but it's actually evidence. there is no actually evidence to support a conspiracy. They is observations, possibilities, and sometimes straight up flase truths floating around on the cover up side...
I don't know for sure what happenned, but looking past politicaly driven "possibilities" lends postitive facts for only one side.
Yes, Bus is a moron, yes, i don't know what happenned, but i am yet to hear anything on the consipracy side that would actually hold up in a court of law.
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Fair enough, it's always good to keep an open mind whatever side of the fence you're on. There are actually new yorkers on film (from news reports and such) saying they couldn't see windows or markings on the planes - I don't mention this as evidence for a conspiracy or that I think their testimony is rock solid, but to point out that there is eye witness testimony for at least some of the things you just mentioned. Just because you aren't aware of them, does not mean they don't exist.
There's one group of people that know for sure and could silence this debate forever. Why don't you put pressure on them to fill the gaps in the official story.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:47:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:42:37 (#)
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http://www.hitachi.ca/Apps/hitachicanada/content.jsp?page=forbus/security/mu-chip/index.html&path=jsp/hcl/hcl/en/
That's the chip most frequently mentioned in the euro allegations. Just look at the size of it.
"Owing to the fact that the mu-chip is 0.4mm squared, it can be packaged into PAPER, parts, and other media and equipment in an approach previously considered difficult."
"The ID data of all mu-Chip is UNIQUE and cannot be rewritten, its security is ensured. Furthermore, CUSTOM CODES can be installed." (my emphasis)
Regardless of whether or not they've actually done it, it's certainly starting to look more possible than one would immediately assume.
And...
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/556/1/1/
"Reports that the mu-chip will be used in Japanese yen banknotes are untrue, according to Kantaro Tanii, a Hitachi spokesman. But Hitachi does anticipate that the mu-chip will be used to prevent counterfeiting of banknotes. "We have no government or bank contracts as yet, but it's a market we expect to grow," Tanii says."
Hmmm, and that article is from 2003....
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What would be the point?
Limited law enforcement applications.
No real use in tracking people unless every single transaction had you write down your name and the vendor recorded what bills you were given.
Preventing counterfeiting, I am sure the codes could be pretty easily copied.
As far as your passport info according to the State Dept website the RFID chip in US passports is optional, I know my cousin got her passport 6 months ago and she just had to send in her picture, so no biometrics. It makes no mention of it ever being mandatory.
For foreign visitors if you are under the VWP you aren't required to have an E passport, and it is available to UK citizens. If you have to get a Visa though you might be right.
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:43:53 EDT (#)
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damn typos.
i need to shut up and eat...
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:42:54 EDT (#)
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I've never heard an eyewitness report that the goverment blew up the trade centers.
or that they put boms in them.
or that they remotely controlled the planes.
ot that they let the passengers off before the bombings.
or that there was dummy planes that hit the trade centers.
or that...
...
...
it's not proof, but it's actually evidence. there is no actually evidence to support a conspiracy. They is observations, possibilities, and sometimes straight up flase truths floating around on the cover up side...
I don't know for sure what happenned, but looking past politicaly driven "possibilities" lends postitive facts for only one side.
Yes, Bus is a moron, yes, i don't know what happenned, but i am yet to hear anything on the consipracy side that would actually hold up in a court of law.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:36:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:26:45 (#)
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Hey, at least I have an eyewitness report that Mohammad Atta was real, learned to fly planes, and was taking what appeared to be "test flights" with other similiar people in the months before 9/11.
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You have one person telling you that they experienced something. There are thousand of sites and sources (from legitimate to axe-grinding "conspiracy" hardliners) that also have one person telling you they experienced something.
Obviously, all these eye witness testimonies don't always agree. You can't take one second-hand experience in isolation - everything has to be weighed up, so justifying 9/11 as not a conspiracy with "my friend told me this" is just not going to cut it I'm afraid.
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:34:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:45:30 (#)
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yeah fucking 4 guys with box cutters are going to take over an entire plan. With 20-25 men on board from age 18-40 yeah right.
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before 9/11 flight crews were trained to follow the demands of hyjackers. It was common practice for them to want to land a plane, not use it as a weapon, so the 4 guys wouldn't actually have to try that hard. The crew would just listen and follow directions at the first threat.
Yeah, if any passangers found out that there was more going on they might then decided to fight back. But hey, that would probably mean a plane later in the whole series of events would have crashed landed short of its target. Oh wait, pennsylvania, durr...
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:29:40 EDT (#)
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i'm GOING to start putting ASSORTED words in uppercase to make things SEEM more TRUE when in fact all the things I say ARE general POINTS that COULD be used to REBUT my OWN arguments.
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 17:26:45 EDT (#)
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Hey, at least I have an eyewitness report that Mohammad Atta was real, learned to fly planes, and was taking what appeared to be "test flights" with other similiar people in the months before 9/11.
If anything, it seems to supoort my version of the truth a lot better than you "could haves" and "what ifs" support your's.
I actually know some facts.
Not that Mohammad Atta, might have existed, he did.
Not that he could've learning to fly, he said he was.
Not that he might have been flying ahead of time in what appeard to be practice runs, he was.
FACTS.
Open your eyes.
You know nothing for sure.
but yes, it could've been a ploy, i might've been bullshit, at least I know something.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:45:30 EDT (#)
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ETS we can't just overthrow the goverment and rebuild another.
Do you know how to shit our economy and our way of living would go?
Our goverment is in place to keep america rich, and powerful. That is the truth. and they do what they need to do.
All the things they do aren't right and that is true. But we just can't over throw the goverment. who the fuck would run the newly formed one?
You don't think that differn't groups would try and get the upper hand and control shit?
This shit your talking about would go down just like the movie/book "Animal farm'. The pig would try and take control and then we would all break off into factions. and I would say that some states would try and state that they wish to be their own soverign nations and countries and such.
Basically "IT"S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN". All we can hope to do is change the people in power by elections, demonstrations, and the like. We have to have people do it through the courts, and the declaratoin of independce. We have to do it that way.
Oh yeah I watched loose change. The goverment did that shit.
After I watched that I watched the movie Flight 93. Complete and utter bullshit.
yeah fucking 4 guys with box cutters are going to take over an entire plan. With 20-25 men on board from age 18-40 yeah right.
The goverment did that shit.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:42:37 EDT (#)
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http://www.hitachi.ca/Apps/hitachicanada/content.jsp?page=forbus/security/mu-chip/index.html&path=jsp/hcl/hcl/en/
That's the chip most frequently mentioned in the euro allegations. Just look at the size of it.
"Owing to the fact that the mu-chip is 0.4mm squared, it can be packaged into PAPER, parts, and other media and equipment in an approach previously considered difficult."
"The ID data of all mu-Chip is UNIQUE and cannot be rewritten, its security is ensured. Furthermore, CUSTOM CODES can be installed." (my emphasis)
Regardless of whether or not they've actually done it, it's certainly starting to look more possible than one would immediately assume.
And...
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/556/1/1/
"Reports that the mu-chip will be used in Japanese yen banknotes are untrue, according to Kantaro Tanii, a Hitachi spokesman. But Hitachi does anticipate that the mu-chip will be used to prevent counterfeiting of banknotes. "We have no government or bank contracts as yet, but it's a market we expect to grow," Tanii says."
Hmmm, and that article is from 2003....
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:38:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:26:26 (#)
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I just put a brand new 20 in the microwave for two minutes.
Nothing.
Now shut up.
P.S.
9/11 is real. A close family friend actually meet Mohammad Atta(sp?) on a plane and sat next to him. He introduced himslef by name and said he was in America to learn to fly planes. Every half an hour him and his firends who were scattered around the plane got up and prayed together in the front of the plane. It seemed weird to him at the time, so he was not too shocked when two months later 9/11 happenned.
No lie.
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When I get a new $20 and try it myself, I'll know.
Your story about Atta, even if true, proves absolutely nothing and could have easily been part of the obfuscation campaign. Imagine, for instance, this is a government conspiracy. Wouldn't you want to send your key spooks out and have them tell people what they were doing so that people LIKE YOU would later use this as some kind of proof?
Yet another bit of completely circumstantial evidence...and the very fact that you seem to think it's airtight proof makes my point for me.
Put it this way...you're sitting in a court of law. The lawyer gets up and reads your above statement word for word and promptly sits down and rests his case. How do you rule if you're on the jury?
I rest MY case.
You have to understand that in a conspiracy, especially one involving the government of the most powerful country on the planet, one with access to all the most cutting edge and top-secret technology known to man, is OF COURSE going to SEEM at first glance like it's legit. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a coverup, now, would it?
Open your eyes.
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:26:26 EDT (#)
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I just put a brand new 20 in the microwave for two minutes.
Nothing.
Now shut up.
P.S.
9/11 is real. A close family friend actually meet Mohammad Atta(sp?) on a plane and sat next to him. He introduced himslef by name and said he was in America to learn to fly planes. Every half an hour him and his firends who were scattered around the plane got up and prayed together in the front of the plane. It seemed weird to him at the time, so he was not too shocked when two months later 9/11 happenned.
No lie.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:20:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:40:12 (#)
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I must add my two cents. Jay is a pig.
There.
Oh i watched loose change. the goverment did that shit.
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Pretty fucking obvious isn't it.
There are other videos that have even more information that supplements that video nicely. Search for "9/11 Road to Tyranny" and "In Plane Sight" on google video.
"9/11 Road to Tyranny" starts a little slowly as they go into the collapse times of the two towers a little too much. They kinda over-do it, but after that, it's pretty informative.
"In Plane Sight" shows slow motion footage of the planes flying into the WTC that show something clearly attached to the bottom of the plane that hit the south tower and flashes of light on the towers just before the moment of impact indicating that not only were the planes not American Airlines planes, but something odd was either shot at the towers just prior to impact, or there's something going off on inside the towers themselves. Either way, it's some fishy shit. They also elaborate on the Pentagon attack and further question where the plane is is the photos. Lot of news footage and eyewitness accounts from that day contradicting the official government story.
Indo: Microwave a new $20 and find out for yourself if it's true. I can tell you it's definitely true in Europe. This is publicized fact. It's in the new passports. Again, publicized fact.
Check a new $20 in the microwave and see if Jackson's right eye doesn't explode into flames.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 16:17:38 EDT (#)
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This report on the alleged RFID euros is from 2001 and isn't big on definites, but it's still interesting.
"While most chip companies with RFID expertise are keeping their plans for money applications close to their chest, Hitachi Ltd. announced plans last July for a chip designed for paper money that would pack RF circuitry and ROM in a 0.4-mm square circuit measuring 60 microns thick."
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011219S0016
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:58:45 EDT (#)
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/031804_RFID_industry_tries_to_debunk_exploding_$20_bill_myth.html
This would seem to go against the chipped $20 bill thing.
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:58:38 EDT (#)
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RFID is not in most products we buy. It will be, but most are holding off until the legislation is more clear on how they must be deactivated/ disabled after the sale.
RFIDs are not in monery eitheir. that's a hoax...
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:53:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 14:08:11 (#)
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There are now mandatory retinal scans and face recognition. RFID chips in their paperwork that must now be carried with them at ALL TIMES.
In our vehicles we have OnStar. In our cell phones there are RFID chips that can be activated and send a beacon even when these devices are off. Same in our state licences and passports.
Now they are even in most of our products we buy.
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Some of this needs clarifying. Fingerprints and digital photo is currently required for all non-american/non-canadian visitors to the US on entry, and a kind of 'biometric check out' pilot scheme is being operated in certain US airports where you have to have your fingertips scanned and a photo taken on exit. You get a little printed receipt with a barcode on it when you leave the country. The scheme is called US-VISIT and I believe it was brought in by the PATRIOT act.
As of Oct 26th this year, any passport of any non-american or non-canadian that has recently been obtained, renewed, replaced or extended must be what the US dept of state is calling an e-passport, i.e. a passport chipped with an RFID tag that holds all the usual passport information and your biometric data (this is where the fingerprints, iris scans and the digital mapping of the contours of your face comes in.) If in oct you are, for instance, on the last year of your old non-chipped ten year passport, you will be allowed in - as the scheme starts on oct 26th it only applies to passports after that date. If your new passport is not chipped, you will not be permitted to visit the US regardless of whether you come from one of the visa-waiver countries (most of europe plus singapore and austrailia) without first obtaining a visa. There's no official statement on whether the visa contains an RFID chip, but I certainly wouldn't be suprised - I'm not prepared to microwave mine to find out for definite.
The US started issuing chipped passports containing fingerprints, iris scans and facial recognition deelybobs to its own citizens in december 2005. It's mandatory for all passport offices that are equipped to create them and if you refuse to have a chipped passport, you can't have one at all. The govt say the chips are "almost impossible" to read when the passport is not open because the chevron bit at the bottom of the data page has to be scanned before the chip can be 'unlocked' but they're generally quite vague about any other security features. Considering somebody managed to read a dutch chipped passport from ten metres away and crack the encryption within two hours, we probably have to treat this with a little healthy skepticism.
To obtain or replace a green card, you have to pay a 'biometric fee' nwhich is essentially funding the chip in your green card which, by US law, you must have on your person at all times. I haven't bothered to look into whether they're in US driver's licenses because, hell, I've already got three chips on me, but it's a fairly safe bet that they will become compulsory soon enough if they aren't already.
Damn, long review. As for RFID tags on products, Wal-Mart has been the main driving force in this - making RFID tagging a mandatory procedure for all it's suppliers (and Wal-Mart has a LOT of suppliers.) You can find a shitload of industry reports on it should you care to look. And, finally, Hitachi allegedly signed a contract with the ECB to supply RFID chips to embed into all euro banknotes although I don't believe there is any official confirmation from the ECB on this.
Anyone wanting to nitpick my facts can verify the bulk of this information on the US dept of state website.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:40:12 EDT (#)
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I must add my two cents. Jay is a pig.
There.
Oh i watched loose change. the goverment did that shit.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:39:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 14:13:38 (#)
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Oh, I almost forgot....RFID is now in our money too. Microwave a $20 bill and see what it does.
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Hahaha, not even you are that stupid
...are you?
Does this mean that my silverware has RFID too?
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2006-07-10 15:19:48 EDT (#)
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45:43?!
WTF IM NOT WATCHING ALL THAT
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 14:13:38 EDT (#)
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Oh, I almost forgot....RFID is now in our money too. Microwave a $20 bill and see what it does.
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Submitted by Dumb_Name (user info) at 2006-07-10 14:12:38 EDT (#)
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I thoroughly enjoy reading all of your conversations.
I have nothing to contribute.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-10 14:08:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-10 12:36:23 (#)
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How can you sheep be so blind? Can you not see that the Yakuza caused Hurricane Katrina by leasing the weather-controlling device the Russians built in the 70's? Don't you see that NASA only sent robots to Mars to build terraforming machines to further the US' agenda of Manifest Destiny?
Everyone knows that nanomachines have been injected into every child who received immunization in the US since 1973. But why can no one understand that "American Idol" is programming software designed to make those immunized brains more receptive to what the NWO calls "conscription programming"?
Apocalypse is coming. No, really. I invited him over for dinner. A stand-up guy he is. Can't say much for his horseman, though; they kinda creep me out.
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If hurricane Katrina was the result of HAARP technology, it was probably our own government that did it. Why? To clear out thousands of square miles of prime, shorefront real-estate of 'niggers' and 'white-trash' - even going so far in the process as to spread flase reports of 'niggers shooting t rescue helicopters' to inspire racism in preparation for a coming eugenics 'cleansing'.
I don't know about 1973, but nanotechnologies are a reality. Furthermore, they are moving toward a time when they won't NEED covert tagging of people, they will legislate it.
Ask Stina or Katherine what they had/have to go through to get their VISAs.
There are now mandatory retinal scans and face recognition. RFID chips in their paperwork that must now be carried with them at ALL TIMES.
In our vehicles we have OnStar. In our cell phones there are RFID chips that can be activated and send a beacon even when these devices are off. Same in our state licences and passports.
Now they are even in most of our products we buy.
These are realities. Some would say it's a pretty damn scary prospect, and I happen to be among them. Makes me want to get a fucking far away from this shit as possible.
Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2006-07-10 13:42:25 EDT (#)
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http://www.dissectional.com
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-10 13:16:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-10 12:36:23 (#)
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How can you sheep be so blind? Can you not see that the Yakuza caused Hurricane Katrina by leasing the weather-controlling device the Russians built in the 70's? Don't you see that NASA only sent robots to Mars to build terraforming machines to further the US' agenda of Manifest Destiny?
Everyone knows that nanomachines have been injected into every child who received immunization in the US since 1973. But why can no one understand that "American Idol" is programming software designed to make those immunized brains more receptive to what the NWO calls "conscription programming"?
Apocalypse is coming. No, really. I invited him over for dinner. A stand-up guy he is. Can't say much for his horseman, though; they kinda creep me out.
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Best ETS review ever.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-10 12:36:23 EDT (#)
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How can you sheep be so blind? Can you not see that the Yakuza caused Hurricane Katrina by leasing the weather-controlling device the Russians built in the 70's? Don't you see that NASA only sent robots to Mars to build terraforming machines to further the US' agenda of Manifest Destiny?
Everyone knows that nanomachines have been injected into every child who received immunization in the US since 1973. But why can no one understand that "American Idol" is programming software designed to make those immunized brains more receptive to what the NWO calls "conscription programming"?
Apocalypse is coming. No, really. I invited him over for dinner. A stand-up guy he is. Can't say much for his horseman, though; they kinda creep me out.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-10 11:59:45 EDT (#)
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I watched the video.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 11:44:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2006-07-09 08:57:25 (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-09 08:51:03 (#)
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Whoa there, Willi. I am not justifying it, just putting it into perspective.
Look at it this way, in one day of doing nothing more than average, you see more than 6000 people.
It may be a glance, you may see them driving the other way, but in all you see way more than 6000 people in on day.
And there was no "murder" or "death" involved, either, k? They sterilized people. Not good by any stretch, but better than killing 'em
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The real perspective isn't the number it's in the legislation:
STATES PASS LAWS THAT ALLOW THEM TO FORCIBLY STERILISE PEOPLE : YES/NO
I fucked up on the "murder" word, I admitted. I'm watching some stuff on 9/11...
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Correct me if I am wrong but this was only to institutionalized people. It isn't good, but it isn't like they were taking people off the street and chopping them up, and was far better than the Nazi practice of killing people that were deemed "bad" for the gene pool.
I believe sweden had similiar laws into the 60's.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-10 11:06:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:35:57 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 11:51:35 (#)
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B) Stop any and ALL overseas clandestine activities, coup attempts, meddling, and nation-building by U.S. operatives.
--- yeah, i'm going to assume you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about here. these are the type of things that keep the world (believe it or not) more stable.
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Meh. I fail to see how Pinochet increased global stability, unless you mean in terms of US copper prices, which is a downright disgusting prospect considering how many people were killed/tortured/raped in his reign of terror.
I agree with ETS in a lot of respects; it's his lack of discipline and tact, to say nothing of his counterproductivity, that piss me off. Sure, he'd do away with the foreign 'meddling'; he'd be too busy sending his secret police against conservatives, capitalists, and anyone else who disagrees with him. In the end he'd be overthrown, slaughtered, and sold organ by organ on ebay -- a necessity with the debt he'd put us in.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-07-10 09:59:16 EDT (#)
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I'll consider an argument when the evidence is less than a quarter century old. There are feasability studies for attacking everything. Hell after WWII we even studied attacking England because we couldn't be sure what would have happened in th post WWII power vacumnn.
Not to say I don't beleive in some of what your saying, but this is a shit argument no matter how you cut it
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-07-10 09:42:44 EDT (#)
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Oh for petes sake will you stop it, you're boring me out of my mind.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2006-07-10 08:38:18 EDT (#)
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I don't deserve to have my rating on this post, let's get rid of that
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-10 07:29:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 05:02:05 (#)
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You're a shameful lot. Cowards, all of you!
You're traitors and cowards. And you think I'M in collusion with the enemy! That's a fucking laugh.
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We are the cowards?
YOU have a problem with the Govt.
YOU want to take it down.
YOU don't think we should pay taxes.
But you are too much of a pussy to ask for your taxes back. You are to much of a pussy to take any action. You are a joke.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-10 03:51:00 EDT (#)
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Filthy, you've never worked a business class hotel on a Saturday or Sunday night, have you?
Wanna know why I have NOTHING better to do?
I must stay at the front desk all night.
Can't leave.
At all.
I can read if I choose, and I do at times, and I can also do my billing, which I do.
Sadly, reading for 8 hours would bore me to sleep, and my billing takes 3 hours, one night.
I could do many things, though.
I could hunt through every conspiracy website like 911truth.org and shit, letting my mind soak up every bit of information that has been pushed and prodded and pulled and formed to fit into a hokey framework of non-reality.
I could spend it writing abut thsoe same theories, and when asked for independent proof, start moaning that no one is willing to learn, even though my source is a movie made by a man who has at time advocated that Lewinsky was a GOP plant, that Nixon ws forced out by the Masons and that Lincoln's Emancipation Proclaimation never happened.
I could even spend it whacking off in my back office.
Only one of those three options is marginally as enjoyable as watching Bradley go off the deep end trying to defend his shit with "BUT JUST WATCH IT GOD DAMNIT!" and shit like that.
But jerking off in my office is grounds for firing. Making fun of someone on a never-ending shit-trip isn't.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-10 03:39:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-10 01:40:35 (#)
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Oh, and pretty fucking please direct at least some of your energy into coming up with a plan to FIXING the problems. Heck, I think FA would be a fantastic bit of help in hammering out a solution and I'll gladly contribute as well. In fact I bet there are lots of people who if given the opportunity to engage in a civilized, proactive discussion that would gladly participate.
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I appreciate the compliment rob so thank you for that, but why don't you start us off with some of your ideas? ETS only has the monopoly on political posts because he's seized the reigns and everyone else is content to just jump on and off his horse as the situation dictates rather than saddling up their own.
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-10 03:12:00 (#)
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The only time I give ETS guff is when I'm working at the hotel, and literally have nothing better to do.
Yeah, the US has problems, but all he does is bitch about the problems. And when he comes up with solutions, they're one-step. There is no thinking past that first step.
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There is always something "better to do" than fling insults at someone else who is trying to do something they believe is worthwhile. Ironically it's only through seeing your mostly embarrassing behaviour on this site that this has hit home for me. I think fear of turning into you might actually make me a nicer person, so well done.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-10 03:12:00 EDT (#)
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@Rob
The only time I give ETS guff is when I'm working at the hotel, and literally have nothing better to do. And really, he hasn't "done anything to me" or anything like that, but his particular brand of stupidity makes me retch.
Yeah, the US has problems, but all he does is bitch about the problems. And when he comes up with solutions, they're one-step. There is no thinking past that first step.
It annoys the hell out of me to see someone who was obviously at one time a very intelligent person fall so far into the world of "Well, we think this, and won't listen to any other information because it's not what I believe."
It's damn near religious zealotry, only instead of worshiping a person or a God, he worships himself and his ideas.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-10 01:48:01 EDT (#)
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oh... and same goes Mr. Greening. You seem to be a very active contributing member of society. Well done.
Obviously ETS has pissed you off something fierce... but I think your energy and intellect could be much better spent doing something positive. Your incessant cyber-stalking of Mr. Tooth is somewhat amusing- but its mostly just painful and childish.
r.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-10 01:40:35 EDT (#)
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FilthyAssistant- WAY down on the page you contributed one of the more thoughtful comments I have ever seen on this site. Bravo. I definitely look forward to learning more about you.
Mr. Tooth: While I still cringe at your significant lack of tact- I too feel you are a person of great significance and applaud your contributions to our failing society. Please never become too discouraged by the petty dip-shits that troll this site picking fights... but don't forget to listen to constructive criticism- you are NOT always right.
Oh, and pretty fucking please direct at least some of your energy into coming up with a plan to FIXING the problems. Heck, I think FA would be a fantastic bit of help in hammering out a solution and I'll gladly contribute as well. In fact I bet there are lots of people who if given the opportunity to engage in a civilized, proactive discussion that would gladly participate.
r.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-10 01:29:26 EDT (#)
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I haven't read anything posted after 8AM board time since I got off work.
I would imagine most of it is borin and assanine drivel.
But I am back now, if only to laugh at Brad a bit more.
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-07-10 00:53:03 EDT (#)
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whats a pos?
Submitted by DrSeussman (user info) at 2006-07-09 23:30:36 EDT (#)
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electrictoothsyndrome,
Just die you political POS!!!
Submitted by DrSeussman (user info) at 2006-07-09 23:27:19 EDT (#)
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WTF? You really suck so bad you can't put in your own commentary you have to rely on a goddamn article for your response? Bury your OWN fucking head in the samd you fucking newb! Slide under a gas truck and taste your own blood!!
Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-07-09 23:18:18 EDT (#)
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First thing I would do is bitch slap and castrate all the college punks
who CAN'T FIND THE SHIFT KEY!!!!!
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Bubba? I think...
I think, maybe... maybe I'm in love with you...
*weeps*
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:50:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:35:57 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 11:51:35 (#)
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Let me tell you what I want...
And this is for ALL of you who keep asking for my 'master plan' to fix government...
A) Abolish the CIA.
---- why? so someone else can do the same shit? wouldn't you rather have us in control than some other country?
B) Stop any and ALL overseas clandestine activities, coup attempts, meddling, and nation-building by U.S. operatives.
--- yeah, i'm going to assume you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about here. these are the type of things that keep the world (believe it or not) more stable.
C) Start following the Constitution in ALL areas, especially as it pertains to the definition of war and the legalities of how it can be carried out.
--- we do.
B) Amend the Constitution to repeal the 17th Amendment, and create a new one that allows for ONE MAN ONE VOTE in this country.
--- so women can't vote? i'm not sure i understand you're logic with this one, i'm assuming the 17th ammendment has to do with the electoral college, in which case the only election it would've changed would have been the 2000 election. the fact that the country was divided so evenly for that election (not to mention the abyssmal voter turnout in general), can we really say there was a *clear* winner either way? i mean, look at our choices for that election and tell me you saw a clear presidential leader as a candidate.
D) Destroy the Federal Reserve and put the printing presses back in the hands of who it should truly belong to, The American People, NOT the hands of globalist bankers and their criminal enterprise.
--- you really have some of the dumbest ideas out of anyone i know.
E) Start phasing out overseas bases and bringing troops home.
--- i imagine countries like kuwait, japan, south korea and a few others would be pretty pissed about this one, but i'm sure you'll say something like "we're only over there for our own interests, not theirs, so it shouldn't be a big deal."
F) Redirect funds away from military and toward the Dept. of Energy (DOE) to try to find new energy solutions before it's too late.
--- rigt, because the military doesn't research new energy sources. no, they only research ways to build bigger bombs and how to subdue large populations. your expansive insight is paramount.
There....those would be first on my agenda as president. It would not fix ALL our problems, but goddamn if it wouldn't get a great deal of 'em. I can tell you this, you would hear the loudest simultaneous cheer from the rest of the world you'd ever heard in your life!
--- you have to leave your computer to become president. you'd also have to be a little more open-minded and have the ability to look farther than six inches in front of your nose with regards to history and foreign affairs. plus, i don't think you can drop acid in the oval office.
sorry to ruin your little party, sparky. good luck with the revolution.
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First thing I would do is bitch slap and castrate all the college punks
who CAN'T FIND THE SHIFT KEY!!!!!
Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:40:44 EDT (#)
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E) Start phasing out overseas bases and bringing troops home.
--- i imagine countries like kuwait, japan, south korea and a few others would be pretty pissed about this one, but i'm sure you'll say something like "we're only over there for our own interests, not theirs, so it shouldn't be a big deal."
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Actually, these days South Korea and Japan (Japan especially) would be thrilled to have the US military out. Not that it makes much sense to me or to their governments.
Although I have to hand it to you, the abolishing the Federal Reserve one is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Unless it means that I get a lisence to print money, because that'd be sweet.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:35:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 11:51:35 (#)
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Let me tell you what I want...
And this is for ALL of you who keep asking for my 'master plan' to fix government...
A) Abolish the CIA.
---- why? so someone else can do the same shit? wouldn't you rather have us in control than some other country?
B) Stop any and ALL overseas clandestine activities, coup attempts, meddling, and nation-building by U.S. operatives.
--- yeah, i'm going to assume you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about here. these are the type of things that keep the world (believe it or not) more stable.
C) Start following the Constitution in ALL areas, especially as it pertains to the definition of war and the legalities of how it can be carried out.
--- we do.
B) Amend the Constitution to repeal the 17th Amendment, and create a new one that allows for ONE MAN ONE VOTE in this country.
--- so women can't vote? i'm not sure i understand you're logic with this one, i'm assuming the 17th ammendment has to do with the electoral college, in which case the only election it would've changed would have been the 2000 election. the fact that the country was divided so evenly for that election (not to mention the abyssmal voter turnout in general), can we really say there was a *clear* winner either way? i mean, look at our choices for that election and tell me you saw a clear presidential leader as a candidate.
D) Destroy the Federal Reserve and put the printing presses back in the hands of who it should truly belong to, The American People, NOT the hands of globalist bankers and their criminal enterprise.
--- you really have some of the dumbest ideas out of anyone i know.
E) Start phasing out overseas bases and bringing troops home.
--- i imagine countries like kuwait, japan, south korea and a few others would be pretty pissed about this one, but i'm sure you'll say something like "we're only over there for our own interests, not theirs, so it shouldn't be a big deal."
F) Redirect funds away from military and toward the Dept. of Energy (DOE) to try to find new energy solutions before it's too late.
--- rigt, because the military doesn't research new energy sources. no, they only research ways to build bigger bombs and how to subdue large populations. your expansive insight is paramount.
There....those would be first on my agenda as president. It would not fix ALL our problems, but goddamn if it wouldn't get a great deal of 'em. I can tell you this, you would hear the loudest simultaneous cheer from the rest of the world you'd ever heard in your life!
--- you have to leave your computer to become president. you'd also have to be a little more open-minded and have the ability to look farther than six inches in front of your nose with regards to history and foreign affairs. plus, i don't think you can drop acid in the oval office.
sorry to ruin your little party, sparky. good luck with the revolution.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 22:16:04 EDT (#)
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haha check it out
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=550
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-07-09 21:58:01 EDT (#)
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ya know, he is right.
ya know, the whole oil field thing.
just trying to clear the air.
sieg juden
Submitted by johndoe3303 (user info) at 2006-07-09 21:38:59 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-07-09 21:28:32 EDT (#)
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Study the dick in your ass.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-07-09 19:47:55 EDT (#)
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stop shooting in every directions please (oil, 9/11, bankers, JFK, Bushes, petro-dollars...etc)
you could hardly interconnect all these things. unless you want to be an idiot on purpose.
please take a step back because running around like a headless bird is no better than having your head in the sand.
i am tring to be nice with you, mon cher.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 19:02:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:40:26 (#)
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I thought that might be it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't sarcasm. I just emailed my old boss to ask him if he would give me a recommendation, and, this man, who makes 300K a year, said
"It's great to here from you."
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Typical proletariat response... To either cower or swoon because someone has money.
You're out of the cult George. We can't have people like you getting all trigger-sensitive on us at the crucial moment.
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:53:37 EDT (#)
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What the hell do you think you're doing? An ostrich can't breathe with its head underground!
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:42:23 EDT (#)
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This one too
http://thewillpower.org/
full of conspiracy theories
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:40:26 EDT (#)
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I thought that might be it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't sarcasm. I just emailed my old boss to ask him if he would give me a recommendation, and, this man, who makes 300K a year, said
"It's great to here from you."
My head almost exploded.
Hey, there's a new site out, looks like they've got ETS' number
http://www.brad.com
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:33:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:31:12 (#)
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Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 16:49:44 (#)
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Pooty, you can't even read. I said two ls. el. the letter brfore m.
You haven't been around the site long, have you. I've tought English classes
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tought? TOUGHT?
jesus christ
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Method, read the review about two up from that one. I SAID I forgot the <sarcasm>
disclaimer. I also misspelled 'before'. Just fuckin' with Pooty. . .
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:31:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 16:49:44 (#)
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Pooty, you can't even read. I said two ls. el. the letter brfore m.
You haven't been around the site long, have you. I've tought English classes
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tought? TOUGHT?
jesus christ
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:29:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:19:59 (#)
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Bubba here's some advice...
"Shut the fuck up!'.
there take this twice daily you old cuke.
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Close your hole, kumquat. All that shit between your ears tends to
run out of your head.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:19:59 EDT (#)
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Bubba here's some advice...
"Shut the fuck up!'.
there take this twice daily you old cuke.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:12:05 EDT (#)
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NOTHING is beyond a government/military that would use radiation and
psychedelic drugs on its own populace.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:08:44 EDT (#)
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Sorry, Poots, my last review was supposed to end with:
<sarcasm>
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-09 17:00:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 16:10:25 (#)
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You fucking idiot. This is the basis for our all our current policies. The fact that it is from the 1970s was the POINT.
Goddamn, you people are dense sometimes. You lack the ability to think outside the box and search for the repercussive effects of pieces of information. It's really sad.
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Why does your version of 'outside the box' always entail drawing the most irresponsible conclusion possible? I respect critical thinking; I just wish I could see some in your posts.
"Ancient Greece was the basis of our current political system, and just look at the virgins sacrifices!! Given that it's over 2000 years later, I assume things are MUCH WORSE now! IT'S THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG YOU MINDLESS SHEEP! HIDE THE VIRGINS! HIDE ME I SAY!"
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 16:49:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:24:33 (#)
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Bubba I know tasetfull has 2 t's in it those tricks won't work on me. lesse what I will call you hmmm hmmm how bout Elitist or maybe old man or turkey balls. I've got it! Your and ass vagina.=)
Maybe you should give up on being old. I think that's your best bet just give it up man. Stop being that cranky, old, english, teacher you never became and put the red pen away.
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Pooty, you can't even read. I said two ls. el. the letter brfore m.
You haven't been around the site long, have you. I've tought English classes
for years.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 16:10:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-09 15:53:18 (#)
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Close, but no cigar.
Bradley, the government has contingencies in place in case we ever need to invade Canada, the ancient egyptians were to come through a time portal and attack Seattle, or the dead rise from the grave and try to attack the living with Canadian Geese. All it means is that someone's being paid way too much money to think about shit like that.
Not to mention your article hales from the 1970's.
Try harder.
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You fucking idiot. This is the basis for our all our current policies. The fact that it is from the 1970s was the POINT.
Goddamn, you people are dense sometimes. You lack the ability to think outside the box and search for the repercussive effects of pieces of information. It's really sad.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-09 15:53:18 EDT (#)
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Close, but no cigar.
Bradley, the government has contingencies in place in case we ever need to invade Canada, the ancient egyptians were to come through a time portal and attack Seattle, or the dead rise from the grave and try to attack the living with Canadian Geese. All it means is that someone's being paid way too much money to think about shit like that.
Not to mention your article hales from the 1970's.
Try harder.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 15:10:34 EDT (#)
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This is an interesting timeline. I knew nothing about all this. For instance, did you know that the only reason genetically-engineered humans have been deemed 'unpatentable' by the Supreme Court is because of a conflict with the 13th amendment prohibiting slavery? The ruling, however, says nothing about other genetically-engineered creatures that may contain human qualities, but are NOT human.
*gets idea*
1980: First patent on a living organism
In the Diamond v. Chakrabarty case, the U.S. Supreme Court rules for the first time that living organisms can be patented. In a close and hotly contested decision, the court rules that a bacterium that was genetically engineered to break down oil spills is a "'manufacture' or 'composition of matter'" that met the criteria for patenting. The majority opinion states that the court was "without competence" to judge the merits of arguments that warned of dire consequences if life was ruled patentable. The court's decision opens the door to claims on other living organisms not explicitly included in the Plant Patent Act. Over the last 15 years, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has granted more than 400 U.S. patents on higher animals, including pigs, cows and sheep, many genetically modified with human genes. Human-cow embryos have been patented, and in 2001, the University of Missouri was granted a patent on a cloning technique that does not rule out the creation of human embryos. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) now allows genes to be patented. Over 20,000 genes, 7,810 of them human genes, have been patented in the U.S.
1984: First genetically modified animal breed, later patented
The oncomouse, a mouse genetically engineered to get cancer, is created by Philip Leder and Timothy Stewart. The USPTO issues a patent on the oncomouse, its progeny and the method for making it in 1988.
1987: Altered animals patentable
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) Board of Patent Appeals and Interferences holds that a genetically engineered oyster is patentable subject matter in Ex parte Allen. Relying on the case, the USPTO issues a notice saying that altered multicellular animals are patentable subject matter within the scope of the Patent Act.
1987: Patent Office disallows patents on humans
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office says that patents are not allowed on human beings because of "conflicts" with the 13th Amendment prohibition of slavery.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 14:17:03 EDT (#)
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1907: Indiana passes first sterilization law in US
Indiana passes a landmark statute allowing the sterilization of those "unfit to breed." As part of the eugenics movement, over 35 states will pass sterilization laws allowing individuals in state institutions to be forcibly sterilized if judged to be genetically defective. Over 60,000 people are sterilized by the 1960s.
My state is cutting edge!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 14:11:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:15:25 (#)
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Man, you don't give up.
Thing is, we all would be stupid to think our, or any other governemnt, is not a bit crazy. Yes, they do some fucked up shit. It just seems a bit much to assume that 9/11 was the work of the U.S.
But if the u.s. did plan it, will people stop blaming bush? If we did this to ourselves, it is way oustide of him or any party lines. It would have to be something much, much bigger than that.
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I don't "assume", as you put it, the U.S. was involved in 9/11, I all but know beyond a shadow of a smidgen of a doubt. Put it this way, if certain parties involved were to appear before a court of law and *I* was on the jury, I'd convict them based on the preponderance of evidence I've seen.
I never said it was just Bush. It's not nearly that simple. This is a whole gang of thugs... Basically, they're all connected to the same people and organizations that killed Kennedy, but for a slightly different reason.
Follow the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich in a history book and watch the succession of things he did. You will begin to see many parallels to the U.S. government...just over a longer period of time. Notice I didn't single out Democrats or Republicans, because those parties are nothing more than a red herring. Their slight differences in 'theory' cannot hide their lack of difference in practice. The trick is not to look at voting records in Congress. Congress figured out long ago that whoever controls the majority of the House is going to win the vote, meaning whoever controls and funds the key individuals in the majority party controls the House, so the opposing party opposes in spite of their knowledge of its futility because they have to keep up appearances. But if someone with enough dough or dirt on someone in a key position wanted something done badly enough in a close majority house, you'd see some serious flip-floppin' on both sides.
This is the way it works. The parties - at least the two major ones - are a joke.
The reality is, without voting and campaign finance reform that is sweeping and meaningful, nothing will change. Those should be high priorities, especially in light of the last two presidential elections. If nothing else should wake Americans up to the fact that their system is critically flawed, it's been those elections.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:57:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:47:54 (#)
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So, what do we hit first, the Athabasca Oil Sands in Alberta, or the Chicontepec fields in Mexico? Mexico's constitution seems to forbid foreign development of their fields, they already supply about 15% of our imported oil, and there's a brewing crisis along our borders. All we need is a full-scale constitutional crisis in Mexico, devolving into anarchy, to give us an excuse to take them over...
Too bad we can't just incorporate them into the Union as a couple of new states, but they'd just go democratic, so the neocons won't let it happen. Looks like the Bavarian Illuminati dropped the ball on this one during the Clinton administration.
Here's the thing, ETS: everyone from economists to psychologists says that there's going to be a crisis no matter how many warnings to prepare get issued, or who's issuing them. The human brain just isn't wired to respond to threats beyond some very limited horizon of immediacy. So it really is a waste of breath to tell people about what's gonna happen next; evolution hasn't equipped most people's brains to worry about it.
Yep, the price of oil is going to skyrocket. When it does, there's going to be some very dicey months/years before the big companies and governments get behind the research and investment to come up with alternative energy sources. Fine with me; too damn many people on this planet anyway. If it suddenly becomes too expensive to feed all the idiots who've put themselves into non-sustainable environments and don't have the resources to fend for themselves, then I can live with that. Or, to be more precise, my kids can live with it.
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I agree in general principle. I understand the that the typical human mind is not wired to perceive future threats much beyond the immediate, and certainly not into the lifetimes of our children and grandchildren, but if we have become creatures of reason and creatures of science, we should be able to use it to determine how best to create a smoothe transition into other forms of energy while at the same time, determining how best to manage population levels without resorting to terrorism, war, famine, pandemic genocide, or involuntary sterilization.
I'm just a concerned human being with a love of the better parts of humanity and an interest in science who's trying to get people thinking about these things and their immediate importance. You know as well as I do that the task at hand is immense, and the implications are without precedent.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:51:04 EDT (#)
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Williamson,
Here is a timeling of Eugenics Movements and Thought through the ages:
http://www.pbs.org/bloodlines/timeline/text_timeline.html
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:47:54 EDT (#)
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So, what do we hit first, the Athabasca Oil Sands in Alberta, or the Chicontepec fields in Mexico? Mexico's constitution seems to forbid foreign development of their fields, they already supply about 15% of our imported oil, and there's a brewing crisis along our borders. All we need is a full-scale constitutional crisis in Mexico, devolving into anarchy, to give us an excuse to take them over...
Too bad we can't just incorporate them into the Union as a couple of new states, but they'd just go democratic, so the neocons won't let it happen. Looks like the Bavarian Illuminati dropped the ball on this one during the Clinton administration.
Here's the thing, ETS: everyone from economists to psychologists says that there's going to be a crisis no matter how many warnings to prepare get issued, or who's issuing them. The human brain just isn't wired to respond to threats beyond some very limited horizon of immediacy. So it really is a waste of breath to tell people about what's gonna happen next; evolution hasn't equipped most people's brains to worry about it.
Yep, the price of oil is going to skyrocket. When it does, there's going to be some very dicey months/years before the big companies and governments get behind the research and investment to come up with alternative energy sources. Fine with me; too damn many people on this planet anyway. If it suddenly becomes too expensive to feed all the idiots who've put themselves into non-sustainable environments and don't have the resources to fend for themselves, then I can live with that. Or, to be more precise, my kids can live with it.
Submitted by Yams (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:26:17 EDT (#)
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Duh.
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:24:33 EDT (#)
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Bubba I know tasetfull has 2 t's in it those tricks won't work on me. lesse what I will call you hmmm hmmm how bout Elitist or maybe old man or turkey balls. I've got it! Your and ass vagina.=)
Maybe you should give up on being old. I think that's your best bet just give it up man. Stop being that cranky, old, english, teacher you never became and put the red pen away.
Submitted by laika (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:23:12 EDT (#)
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energybulletin.net
everybody who wants to say something about our
energy situation should spend at least several hours
on that site first. as far as i know, it and the oildrum
are by far the best sites on energy.
(it is not a conspiracy site)
Submitted by mockidol (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:15:25 EDT (#)
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Man, you don't give up.
Thing is, we all would be stupid to think our, or any other governemnt, is not a bit crazy. Yes, they do some fucked up shit. It just seems a bit much to assume that 9/11 was the work of the U.S.
But if the u.s. did plan it, will people stop blaming bush? If we did this to ourselves, it is way oustide of him or any party lines. It would have to be something much, much bigger than that.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:10:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2006-07-09 08:05:52 (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-09 07:32:33 (#)
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@ Williamson:
If there was such a program, that area would have had a noticable drop in birth rates starting roughly 10-15 years after the start of the program. And during that time, Virginia/West Virginia/Maryland actually saw an increase in births per thousand.
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Numbers?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/02/virginia-eugenics.htm
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My god... Look at how quick Jay is to dismiss things he knows absolutely nothing about because it doesn't fit within his neat little worldview.
"But...but...they couldn't have POSSIBLY done that... Not in America!"
Idiot.
I say again: I.D.I.O.T.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:06:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 12:04:33 (#)
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JFK was killed because his ideas would have taken control out of the hands of
the richest people in the world. You know, the conglomerate of wealthy folks who
can cause anything they wish to happen. . .
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Which is why they were on my 'hit list' in the last post. Without those people pulling the strings in Washington, the politicians wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-09 13:05:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-09 07:30:15 (#)
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Filthy, near zero personal dependence.
Not near zero total dependence.
My food is grown by farmers who use tractors.
My fear there is more about water than fuel.
If fuel prices go up, then the cost of food goes up. I am OK paying an extra dime a pound of my apples.
However, if there is no water for crops, gas can be free, and you still have no crops.
My apartment is powered by Xcel energy. Xcel energy, while not totally perfect, is an industry leader in using renewable energy. 10% of all juice going through the stations in Colorado is wind. 75% of it is coal and it's biproducts. I pay $35 a month for my heat and electricity. I can afford to have it triple.
My clothing is mass produced. Off the rack. Fuel and oil prices do not have a strong impact on the garment industry, beyond transportation. And since Colorado has a FotL factory, shipping isn't a big issue.
So yeah, I'll be fine when oil goes over $100 a barrel, thanks for asking.
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You are hollow and thoughtless.
This isn't about the price of oil, it's about the fact that no matter what the price, it will one day run out, and 5 out of every 7 people on the planet will starve to death.
That might sound simplistic to you, but it a FACT. Without oil-based fertilizers, not to mention farming equipment and irrigation, our crop yields would fall exponentially in the bread basket and around the world.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-09 12:44:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2006-07-09 12:36:47 (#)
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oh yes the old going to school put down. That's so classic and tastefull bubba. You are a wise old sage and it's no wonde