Israel, The United States, and Great Britain (Are the REAL criminals running the jailhouse?) (2900 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-07-16 15:31:17 EDT
The U.S., Great Britain, and Israel are good at playing the victim. They are quick to point out when they have been wronged, but are slow or altogether negligent in pointing out their own mistakes or malicious transgressions.
I suppose it's only human nature to be that way. The most guilty are often the least willing to accept guilt. They are the ones who will do whatever it takes to convince others that it is they who are the victims. This is easy to do when it's only YOUR version of events that your people are able to hear, and for the last 60 years, the Anti-Defamation League has made it impossible to criticize Israel without being labeled a racist.
Think about that... If a murderer were on trial, how would he convince a jury not to send him to prison? He could certainly do as O.J.'s attorneys did and cry "racism". Or, he could go the 'insanity' route, but that would mean admitting a measure of guilt. This would be the equivalent of saying "I had bad intel", because the killer's perceptions were skewed.
This is what the U.S. has done in Iraq. When charged with "murder in the first degree", he (the U.S.) pleaded insanity, the jury of public opinion bought it, and now he has convinced the media he's been reformed and is planning a public speaking tour on the dangers of mental illness. It's all very motivational...one of those 'learn from my example' kinds of lectures, except this one isn't about mental illness, it's about 'democracy'. But several other charges have been brought against him including "theft by deception" (for writing cold currency), numerous counts of "public disturbance", "vandalism", and "drug dealing", and "aiding and abetting" known criminals. These cases are still pending.
The Israelis are like the home intruder who trips on the garden hose and twists his ankle, or cuts his hand on the window he's just broken and sues the home owner for libel. Or they are like a group of hippie trespassers, squatting on the farmer's land, except the farmer can't seem to make them leave, and any appeal to the local sheriff only leads to yet another, "Well, you know Jeb, those people have a right to be there too; just because this land has been in your family for generations doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to stay there. They had a hard time of it and would like to settle down. Oh, that reminds me, Jeb, you're gonna need to move you're trailer on over so we can make more room for the hippies."
Who can blame farmer Jeb when he gets pissed off and whips out the shotgun and blows some hippie squatters away? Sure, maybe he can't quite claim self defence in the matter, but protection of one's personal property and livlihood is like an inalienable right doncha think? Or maybe it should be. No, in this story, the hippies end up killing farmer Jeb's children and claiming self defence...and in this story the jury buys it. Instead, they convict farmer Jeb for terroristic threatening and award the hippies punitive damages.
That leaves the British... If there were an award for most smug population on the planet, it might well be won by the British people. While maybe not as far left as, say, France, Britain is quick to point out its progressive (i.e. borderline communist) ways, especially to its retarded, gun-slinging, hillbilly cousin across the pond. But 'progressiveness' is not a court plea, so Britain will have to come up with something better to fend off the charges of "inciting a riot", "conspiracy to murder", and "robbery". You see, Britain these days is too pussy to start her own fights. She has to whip her cousin into a fury by telling him, "Hey...did you HEAR what that guy just said about you at the end of the bar!?!? Are you gonna take that shit???"
The cousin then crushes the unsuspecting victim's skull with a bar stool, and in the ensuing confusion, Britain robs the till. As this analogous Bonnie stealthily slips out the side door, her Clyde is taking on the rest of the bar patrons with his bare hands.
The thing that separates the good criminals from the bad ones is the precise coordination of their lies. If their lies are all straight and they don't crack under police pressure, chances are they'll get off on lack of evidence or some other technicality. These three are masters of coordination. The official Israeli story soon becomes the official U.S. and British story too. The counter arguments are limited, and the ones that are allowed are the ones that have been pre-screened and are known to be weak. On the offchance a strong argument defeats the filter of information, the messenger of such information becomes the subject of focused character assassination efforts and Cochranisms like: "if Hamas is elected, aid got to be rejected". This is then chanted like some creepy mantra at a ritual where the participant's all wear gold masks and black robes, carry torches, and walk in single file.
Beware of anyone who tries to dehumanize another human being or group of human beings by filing them into a category based on superficial attributes, or labels them based on criteria that could be applied to almost anyone who expresses dissent or resistence. This is exactly what Hitler did.
Also, beware of those that attack their neighbors using full military force because of some isolated "attack" they have suffered. Again, this is what Hitler did. (See: Operation Himmler)
It should be obvious to many of you by now that the U.S., Britain, and Israel want and NEED to attack Iran from some reason. They tried the nuclear angle, but know they don't have a leg to stand on as their current activities are protected under the NPT. Plus, they know they would have a hard time pushing meaningful UN sanctions with Russia and China having veto powers, and aggression would be risky and expensive with the U.S. and Britain already fighting on multiple fronts. The logical entry point would be to have Israel attack them claiming "preemptive self-defense", whatever that means. I guess we're living in "The Minority Report" now.
Iran has been systematically attacked in the media in western countries, and our secretary of state has been regular little accuser, slinging the rhetoric and towing the party line wherever she goes. It's not just her, it's the media too. They take what's said and, instead of questioning or debating it in any meaningful way, they dumb down the issue and throw a few pundits on there to propel these radical viewpoints. thus making them seem less 'radical' and more 'gospel' to the American people.
I was watching Hardball on MSNBC the other night and a guest commentator from inside Lebanon, a British journalist, was asked by Chris Matthew's female stand-in why Israel would bomb the Beirut International Airport, to which he responded by saying that it was part of the Israeli strategy of blockading the country and served as an economic blow to the because this is tourist season and Lebanon's economy relies heavily on tourism. After the gentleman had answered the question, the host then added (I'm paraphrasing) "That, and we also know it's to cut off support coming in from Syria and Iran." The host felt it necessary to throw that in there seeing as she hadn't gotten the answer the network needed. Fortunately, the Syrian diplomat came on a few minutes later and gave the American media a smackdown. I have the interview on tape and plan on compiling a video of all the tidbits of propaganda maneuvering so all you overseas people can see what Americans are bombarded with on a daily basis. If I get my video capture card working, I'll post it on YouTube for you.
Compare what we're being shown and told with what you see in your news reports and you'll see a massive difference both stylistically and ethically.
I encourage everyone to put a blank tape in your VCRs, or put your TiVos on record and capture the propaganda for posterity. This is important stuff. If this is the start of a WWIII, if the dominos keep falling here, it will be even more important to actively dissect your news reports. If you don't capture what's said now, you may never hear it again, and tomorrow they may have changed their story without you even realizing it.
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Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2006-08-20 23:47:18 EDT (#)
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STOP LOOKING AT ME, SWAN!!!!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-20 23:30:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-08-20 22:57:28 (#)
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why is it I always seem to agree with you on all of this? that really pisses me off.
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It's not about agreeing or disagreeing to me anymore. It's about those that see the truth and those who, for reasons I really can't fathom, refuse to see it.
All it takes is to drop the prejudices, the preconceptions, and the assumptions and look at the facts.
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-08-20 22:57:28 EDT (#)
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why is it I always seem to agree with you on all of this? that really pisses me off.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2006-08-20 22:47:51 EDT (#)
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ETS you're a god-damned retard.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2006-08-20 22:40:39 EDT (#)
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Oh dear God.
Submitted by hoooot (user info) at 2006-07-21 23:24:03 EDT (#)
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god damnit i hate conspiracy theorists.
well, thats a lie.
i like cool conspiracy theorists, and you're not a cool one.
you actually just give me a headache.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-21 00:24:37 EDT (#)
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Is the attention-whore still going on this one?
You know, I should do a once-over again on ETS, checking to see how much of his account hits and reviews are actually him, just for shits and giggles.
he got pissed the last time I did it, and that was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before he went off the super deep end.
Or I could just start insulting him again, and wait for him to revenge -2 "No Comment" me like his bitch ass always does, anyway.
STILL WAITING ON YOUR RESULTS FROM YOUR INDEPENDENT 9-11 INVESTIGATION, BRAD LINZY!
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-20 11:43:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 23:16:46 (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-19 15:17:24 (#)
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You're right, 'it' does not refer to the people, it refers to the building. NOBODY is refuting this. We are refuting the meaning of the word 'pull', that he was using the fireman meaning, which would mean to PULL people out.
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Oh. my. fucking. god.
You have to have the emptiest head this side of Billy Ray Cyrus.
If you're refuting the meaning of the word "pull", you don't REPLACE the word "it", you dumbass, you replace the word "pull".
Jesus Christ, save me from these people and their idiocy. I BEG you.
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no way are you serious with that response...
Submitted by nightshade (user info) at 2006-07-20 08:29:17 EDT (#)
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See the thing is that if you go back far enough it was the Israeli's land thousands of years ago.
Funny thing is both their religions roughly promise that land to them, so you'd think that they'd be the same reliion, funny thing is there not.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 23:16:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-19 15:17:24 (#)
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You're right, 'it' does not refer to the people, it refers to the building. NOBODY is refuting this. We are refuting the meaning of the word 'pull', that he was using the fireman meaning, which would mean to PULL people out.
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Oh. my. fucking. god.
You have to have the emptiest head this side of Billy Ray Cyrus.
If you're refuting the meaning of the word "pull", you don't REPLACE the word "it", you dumbass, you replace the word "pull".
Jesus Christ, save me from these people and their idiocy. I BEG you.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-19 15:17:24 EDT (#)
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You're right, 'it' does not refer to the people, it refers to the building. NOBODY is refuting this. We are refuting the meaning of the word 'pull', that he was using the fireman meaning, which would mean to PULL people out.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 15:08:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-19 14:12:53 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 00:34:19 (#)
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You say I'm full of shit, but you are one stubborn motherfucker. You people get your knee-jerk reactions and block out everything else that's said. That's your problem.
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But a reasonable person like you would never jump on someone saying something that can be easily misinterpreted, even when the clarification makes more sense.
Like when silverstein said "pull".
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bazzzzinnng....
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Yes Wardy...HUUUGE bazzzzing there, whatever the fuck that means.
Silverstien actually said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the best thing to do is just pull *IT*. And they made that decision...to pull *IT*"
There's your fucking bazzzzzzzzing.
Last time I checked, an *IT* was not a normal way to describe any human or group of humans.
You have no argument, face it. No matter how much you try to wiggle and and squirm and make me look ridiculous by telling people only half the story, you're wrong, and that's that.
*I* know what you're doing. *I* see through your bullshit. And if any of these people can't do that, they're idiots.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-07-19 14:12:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-19 11:17:55 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 00:34:19 (#)
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You say I'm full of shit, but you are one stubborn motherfucker. You people get your knee-jerk reactions and block out everything else that's said. That's your problem.
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But a reasonable person like you would never jump on someone saying something that can be easily misinterpreted, even when the clarification makes more sense.
Like when silverstein said "pull".
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bazzzzinnng....
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-19 11:17:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 00:34:19 (#)
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You say I'm full of shit, but you are one stubborn motherfucker. You people get your knee-jerk reactions and block out everything else that's said. That's your problem.
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But a reasonable person like you would never jump on someone saying something that can be easily misinterpreted, even when the clarification makes more sense.
Like when silverstein said "pull".
Go back to agreeing with cold fusion at least then there was consistancy in your imaginary world.
Submitted by nightshade (user info) at 2006-07-19 06:08:44 EDT (#)
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Where is the love with you people?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 00:37:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PommyTom (user info) at 2006-07-18 23:40:22 (#)
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-18 22:48:25 (#)
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You would actually feel safe if fucking Iran had nuclear weapons? or China?
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China does have nuclear weapons you retarded ignorant pathetic excuse for a meat popsicle.
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You beat me to it. China has has them since, what, the 1970s? I think I can safely rest my case.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-19 00:34:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 22:03:40 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 20:18:20 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 13:06:13 (#)
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Everything leading up to that comment would lead one to believe that you thought all you needed was a hydrogen fuel cell and alternators on the engine to turn the waste water back into fuel.
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True, but later in the post I clarified my statements and said using solar and other energies.
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So your comment was completely 100% wrong, and you came back a few hours later and brought up alternators again (makes no sense if you knew what you were talking about), and then reference several interesting but completely un proven technologies to prove you were right (except for solar, but the cost pros and cons for that are easy to find)?
Way to go, guess you really do get it.
Maybe people wouldn't think you were so full fo shit if you could admit when you are wrong, or talking out of your ass.
Maybe
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I wasn't "completely 100% wrong", I just wasn't clear in what I was trying to say at first. When I was pressed by your and others' defamatory comments, I clarified that I wasn't talking AT ALL about a perpetual motion machine.
I'm well aware of the principles of transfer of energy. That some of you would even assume I wasn't was insulting to the point I didn't even want to fuck with talking to you
I was speculating on the possibility of a vehicle that might never have to stop to refuel using outside sources of energy into the system. I was throwing it out there so see if anyone could point me to a link that discussed it.
You say I'm full of shit, but you are one stubborn motherfucker. You people get your knee-jerk reactions and block out everything else that's said. That's your problem.
Submitted by PommyTom (user info) at 2006-07-18 23:43:38 EDT (#)
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Alliteration = repetition.
Shit your stupidity is infectious and mind-numbing.
Submitted by PommyTom (user info) at 2006-07-18 23:40:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-18 22:48:25 (#)
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You would actually feel safe if fucking Iran had nuclear weapons? or China?
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China does have nuclear weapons you retarded ignorant pathetic excuse for a meat popsicle.
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Countries that are too grounded in religion should not have fucking Nuclear weapons. Why you ask? because their minds are clouded and they will make insane, unrational judgements to appease the religous in there country or there own thoughts.
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I'm not religious, but I'd rather someone that was religious have their finger on their button than a retarded ignorant pathetic excuse for a meat popsicle.
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And before you say the U.S. is a christian nation run by a christian Whack Job (BUSH). It may somewhat be but we have a senate and other people that can veto his power or take it away. Iran, or China, or Korea are run by princes, and dictators where their word is bond. You are nuts.
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Define dictators, though you hide behind your fabled dream of democracy, the US is moving further and further from the ideals of a democratic state. Or did Fox news tell you otherwise?
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Only the peace nations,
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You crack me up captain America.
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Your nuts, ETS, fucking NUTS.
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I'd rather be nuts than a fucking retarded ignorant pathetic excuse for a meat popsicle, oh did i say that again? I thought alliteration may help you. Maybe if its hammered into your head like your media you may learn something.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-18 22:48:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:08:28 (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:38:10 (#)
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You are a nutty sack of monkey shit. But what scares me is, not the fact that you are a raving lunatic, a bunch of clueless idiots actually believe in what you say.
I wish you lived in Tel Aviv and could preach a stance that Iran should have nuclear weapons because we do also.
There is nothing unique about someone who goes against anything their government does and spews conspiracy theories for every news story out there. You are just fucking nuts, period.
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Think what you must.
I never said Iran SHOULD have nuclear weapons...I said we couldn't blame them IF they wanted them, and they have just as much inherent right to them as we do, or Israel does, or Pakistan, or France, or Britain, or China.
There was a time when we went through this same thing with China and Russia and Pakistan.
I'm not trying to be "unique". Fuck you for insinuating that. I don't give two FUCKS what anyone thinks about me. I'm just relaying the truth as I see it. Agree or disagree, I don't give a flying fuck.
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You are fucking nuts. You think that just because "we" have WMD's that every fucking country under the sun has a right to have them. NO!, NO!, NO! you are a fool, ETS. Countries like China or Iran, or Iraq or Korea should not have nuclear weapons. Why you ask? because they are communist countries that have a past of being very fucking aggressive when it comes to the times of war.
You would actually feel safe if fucking Iran had nuclear weapons? or China? yeah we would have good luck of them not nuking the shit out of a small country like Thailand or else Iran nuking fucking Israel at the first trespass into there land. Or else to prove some religous point.
Countries that are too grounded in religion should not have fucking Nuclear weapons. Why you ask? because their minds are clouded and they will make insane, unrational judgements to appease the religous in there country or there own thoughts.
And before you say the U.S. is a christian nation run by a christian Whack Job (BUSH). It may somewhat be but we have a senate and other people that can veto his power or take it away. Iran, or China, or Korea are run by princes, and dictators where their word is bond. You are nuts.
You think letting every country having nuclear weapons is just going to keep anyone from blasting one off? I would not trust half the countries in the world with a nuke. Not even 1/3. Only the peace nations, or else nations who are actually intelligent and not bound by the laws of the old ways, or religion should have a shot. And even then they should not have nukes.
Your nuts, ETS, fucking NUTS.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 22:03:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 20:18:20 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 13:06:13 (#)
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Everything leading up to that comment would lead one to believe that you thought all you needed was a hydrogen fuel cell and alternators on the engine to turn the waste water back into fuel.
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True, but later in the post I clarified my statements and said using solar and other energies.
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So your comment was completely 100% wrong, and you came back a few hours later and brought up alternators again (makes no sense if you knew what you were talking about), and then reference several interesting but completely un proven technologies to prove you were right (except for solar, but the cost pros and cons for that are easy to find)?
Way to go, guess you really do get it.
Maybe people wouldn't think you were so full fo shit if you could admit when you are wrong, or talking out of your ass.
Maybe
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 20:23:27 EDT (#)
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And here's where I mentioned microorganisms: http://www.ubersite.com/m/83260#1815707
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 20:21:20 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/83260#1815670
Here is one of the reviews in which I clarified it on that post.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 20:18:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 13:06:13 (#)
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Everything leading up to that comment would lead one to believe that you thought all you needed was a hydrogen fuel cell and alternators on the engine to turn the waste water back into fuel.
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True, but later in the post I clarified my statements and said using solar and other energies.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 13:06:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:44:17 (#)
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What it amounted to is, I wanted someone to produce some numbers showing me exactly how electrolysis couldn't be conducted onboard an automobile using the available energy sources such as sunlight, recycled waste energy from turning wheels, microorganisms, or any other energy source you could dream up...wind resistence...coreolis effect...whatever.
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I am not reading through all those replies on that post, but nowhere in the original post did you mention microorganisms, coreolis effect or any other source of energy aside from hydrogen.
The replies that I read leading up to that made no mention of incorporating those sources into a car.
Everything leading up to that comment would lead one to believe that you thought all you needed was a hydrogen fuel cell and alternators on the engine to turn the waste water back into fuel.
That was and is wrong.
The fact that you mention recycled energy from turning wheels leads me to believe you still don't get the laws of thermodynamics.
As for your other sources I don't have the numbers because nobody has made a reliable machine that runs on them (aside from sunlight, but do I really have to explain how that won't work?).
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:44:17 EDT (#)
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Excuse me. I was wrong in my statement below. CaptainThorns did mention cold fusion in that review.
But you'll notice, I was relating his talk of recycling fuel to the possibility of using electrolysis or microscopic organisms to keep producing hydrogen from the waste water indefinitely.
You still took what I was saying out of context. You have to look at what I was talking about in the post. I wasn't talking about cold fusion, I was talking about clean energy hydrogen vehicles.
What it amounted to is, I wanted someone to produce some numbers showing me exactly how electrolysis couldn't be conducted onboard an automobile using the available energy sources such as sunlight, recycled waste energy from turning wheels, microorganisms, or any other energy source you could dream up...wind resistence...coreolis effect...whatever.
I wanted someone to show me using concrete numbers how it might be done or could NOT be done.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:40:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 06:05:39 (#)
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All I am saying is it might be nice if you were to maybe help out a little... or at least don't be part of the problem.
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Seriously? How can I possibly entertain the idea of having a meaningful conversation or discussion with him when he is going to generalise so?
Why are you and him avoiding this valid point?
If he offers insightful prose then I will reply, if he fanatically rants about my country goading his into an all out war on terror and then running for the hills while nicking all the cash (fuck BP and all that shit.... he GENERALISED...I'm not making any money) then I'm just plain not going to entertain that type of writing and will reply in kind...i/e. FUCK SHIT and BOLLOCKS.
Like for like my friend.
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Hey fine... but call him on the particular points you disagree with... don't seek to marginalize his whole opinion because you don't like the way he SAID it. He's a caustic prick at times. Its part of his charm... but as I said- he does present some pretty compelling evidence of some giant puppeteers
In fact, like I said, I think you have every right to patriotic.
r.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:33:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:16:49 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:56:24 (#)
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You took my words completely out of context.
Captain Thorns was talking about an engine that recycles its own waste and sqeezes all the energy it can out of the fuel. That's what I was responding to in that review you just linked. It's the same concept as placing generators on the wheel axles to capture otherwise wasted energy.
Your entire idea of me has been based off of your own stupidity in not being able to read.
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"Extracting the Hydrogen AGAIN from the very water the engine gives off as a biproduct using alternators for the any required electrical current in the process. It's a self-sustaining system."
That is out of context?
That isn't a seperate paragraph in the response I referenced above?
And Captain thorns WAS talking about "cold fusion" he fucking said cold fusion. You agreed.
You were 100% wrong. It has nothing to do with my reading ability. Find one other person who looked at that quote and didn't think you were agreeing about cold fusion.
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Yes it IS out of fucking context. The ongoing discussion was about the possibility of a vehicle that could run without ever stopping for fuel, because it used sunlight and other available energy sources surrounding it.
He mentioned NOTHING about 'cold fusion' in that review you linked. Nothing. He did in another review on that post, but what did I say about that? Go back and read it.
I didn't say DICK about cold fusion in the review you linked to below and neither did Captain Thorns.
So, go on...find where I violated thermodynamics.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:16:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:56:24 (#)
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You took my words completely out of context.
Captain Thorns was talking about an engine that recycles its own waste and sqeezes all the energy it can out of the fuel. That's what I was responding to in that review you just linked. It's the same concept as placing generators on the wheel axles to capture otherwise wasted energy.
Your entire idea of me has been based off of your own stupidity in not being able to read.
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"Extracting the Hydrogen AGAIN from the very water the engine gives off as a biproduct using alternators for the any required electrical current in the process. It's a self-sustaining system."
That is out of context?
That isn't a seperate paragraph in the response I referenced above?
And Captain thorns WAS talking about "cold fusion" he fucking said cold fusion. You agreed.
You were 100% wrong. It has nothing to do with my reading ability. Find one other person who looked at that quote and didn't think you were agreeing about cold fusion.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 12:08:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:38:10 (#)
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You are a nutty sack of monkey shit. But what scares me is, not the fact that you are a raving lunatic, a bunch of clueless idiots actually believe in what you say.
I wish you lived in Tel Aviv and could preach a stance that Iran should have nuclear weapons because we do also.
There is nothing unique about someone who goes against anything their government does and spews conspiracy theories for every news story out there. You are just fucking nuts, period.
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Think what you must.
I never said Iran SHOULD have nuclear weapons...I said we couldn't blame them IF they wanted them, and they have just as much inherent right to them as we do, or Israel does, or Pakistan, or France, or Britain, or China.
There was a time when we went through this same thing with China and Russia and Pakistan.
I'm not trying to be "unique". Fuck you for insinuating that. I don't give two FUCKS what anyone thinks about me. I'm just relaying the truth as I see it. Agree or disagree, I don't give a flying fuck.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:56:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 07:56:29 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:16:17 (#)
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I'm dead serious. I wouldn't doubt that fucker was on someone's payroll for one minute. I'm not saying he is or isn't, I'm just saying it's possible. These people exist and are out there posting on the internet in an effort to skew key issues. They are PAID to do it by the unwitting U.S. taxpayer. Indoninja doesn't even pay attention to the things I write. It's almost like he doesn't even read it and goes right back to his internal script. Fuck him. I'm sick of arguing with his ignorant ass.
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My ignorant ass?
http://www.ubersite.com/m/83260#1815361
I guess if I was as smart as you I would believe that oil companies in collusion witht he Govt are keeping down cold fusion.
I would also believe that,
"Extracting the Hydrogen AGAIN from the very water the engine gives off as a biproduct using alternators for the any required electrical current in the process. It's a self-sustaining system."
Is possible.
You may have looked up the laws of thermodynamics after this gem because everyone with half a brain knew at that point you had no idea what you were talking about, but you lose all credability because you can't admit that this is flat out wrong. It is in no sense of the word a "self-sustaining system".
But don't acknowledge me, I am to ignorant to believe in cold fusion.
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You took my words completely out of context.
Captain Thorns was talking about an engine that recycles its own waste and sqeezes all the energy it can out of the fuel. That's what I was responding to in that review you just linked. It's the same concept as placing generators on the wheel axles to capture otherwise wasted energy.
Your entire idea of me has been based off of your own stupidity in not being able to read.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:38:10 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You are a nutty sack of monkey shit. But what scares me is, not the fact that you are a raving lunatic, a bunch of clueless idiots actually believe in what you say.
I wish you lived in Tel Aviv and could preach a stance that Iran should have nuclear weapons because we do also.
There is nothing unique about someone who goes against anything their government does and spews conspiracy theories for every news story out there. You are just fucking nuts, period.
Submitted by Happily_Agnostic (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:17:38 EDT (#)
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they are like a group of hippie trespassers, squatting on the farmer's land, except the farmer can't seem to make them leave, and any appeal to the local sheriff only leads to yet another, "Well, you know Jeb, those people have a right to be there too; just because this land has been in your family for generations doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to stay there. They had a hard time of it and would like to settle down. Oh, that reminds me, Jeb, you're gonna need to move you're trailer on over so we can make more room for the hippies."
-fucking classic
Submitted by karates_badboy (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:03:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You'd be pretty good at playing victim too if you had to worry that some crazy asshole with "jihad" tattooed on his forehead was going to blow himself up inside of a subway system or any other place like that.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2006-07-18 10:45:24 EDT (#)
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global thermonuclear war is awesome
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-18 07:56:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:16:17 (#)
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I'm dead serious. I wouldn't doubt that fucker was on someone's payroll for one minute. I'm not saying he is or isn't, I'm just saying it's possible. These people exist and are out there posting on the internet in an effort to skew key issues. They are PAID to do it by the unwitting U.S. taxpayer. Indoninja doesn't even pay attention to the things I write. It's almost like he doesn't even read it and goes right back to his internal script. Fuck him. I'm sick of arguing with his ignorant ass.
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My ignorant ass?
http://www.ubersite.com/m/83260#1815361
I guess if I was as smart as you I would believe that oil companies in collusion witht he Govt are keeping down cold fusion.
I would also believe that,
"Extracting the Hydrogen AGAIN from the very water the engine gives off as a biproduct using alternators for the any required electrical current in the process. It's a self-sustaining system."
Is possible.
You may have looked up the laws of thermodynamics after this gem because everyone with half a brain knew at that point you had no idea what you were talking about, but you lose all credability because you can't admit that this is flat out wrong. It is in no sense of the word a "self-sustaining system".
But don't acknowledge me, I am to ignorant to believe in cold fusion.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 06:05:39 EDT (#)
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All I am saying is it might be nice if you were to maybe help out a little... or at least don't be part of the problem.
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Seriously? How can I possibly entertain the idea of having a meaningful conversation or discussion with him when he is going to generalise so?
Why are you and him avoiding this valid point?
If he offers insightful prose then I will reply, if he fanatically rants about my country goading his into an all out war on terror and then running for the hills while nicking all the cash (fuck BP and all that shit.... he GENERALISED...I'm not making any money) then I'm just plain not going to entertain that type of writing and will reply in kind...i/e. FUCK SHIT and BOLLOCKS.
Like for like my friend.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-18 05:33:33 EDT (#)
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Rob I think SilvrWolf replied to you far better than I am capable of.
Fair enough, I replied to SilvrWolf in kind, like I will reply to you.
"I am capable of only this.
Fuck you."
Oh, c'mon. You are capable of so much more. But deep down you know that I don't deserve much more than that- because the bottom line is you are guilty of being a reactionary patriotic dickhead. Well, good for you. I can't say that is such a bad thing, I am fairly patriotic myself. But the bottom line is this kid is NOT just simply digging up old articles. The problem is that very few people are fucking paying attention. To ANYthing. And some of this shit NEEDS to be paid attention to. SO , sorry your feelings got hurt. Walk it off princess.
Seriously.
"Why don't to you read what I wrote and not get so tangle up in his theories and poking your dick up his arse?"
I did. I didn't really disagree with most of it... just the part I called you on.
"All this 'I don't know about you but the more I read etc etc....'"
Its true. And dude... It's a little creepy.
"I have said this before and will say it again (fucking hell...talk about repeat yourself!). I READ MOST OF WHAT Brad spouts on here 2 maybe three years ago...I read, I asses and I decide what to believe. I then tuck my ideas and thoughts away and don't throw them down other people's throats."
Then I don't think that makes you a bad person, I just think you are lazy and unhelpful. But you are entitled to be whatever you want to be. I don't really care.
"My whole issue is the infantile way he called my country cowards and accused us of sliding out of the back door."
Fine. Then just call him on that. How hard is that?
"I fucking wish we had slid out of the back door. I wish we'd never got involved in the first place. What I am saying is that making general sweeping statements about a nation or a country has to be false."
Sure its false. Sure its drama. I mean the whole thing is just a calculated attempt to get some more people actually discussing what is going on in the world today. If you have thrown the towel in on productive conversation- that's fine. But you can NOT deny that there are some things worthy of some pretty deep exploration.
All I am saying is it might be nice if you were to maybe help out a little... or at least don't be part of the problem.
But you do what you want. Oh, and might as well Fuck off as well. Its only fair.
r.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-07-18 04:44:17 EDT (#)
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no return not long return
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-07-18 04:43:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:16:17 (#)
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WOODY: ---------I am familiar with the post, I enjoyed the discussion on it. Your assertions on it were extremely naive, and thats being polite, but not physically impossible I guess. None of the explanations you made made it particularly clear that you weren't advocation a perpetual motion machine and that you were is the perception that came across very strongly.
It was overshadowed for my though by the guy who claimed that his workmate had acheived cold fusion on his desk.
I was actually reffering to where you said that building 7 collapsed in a time that could only be acheived in a vacuum. I'm not entirely 100% sure if thats covered by thermodynamics so I'll make a new Law. The Law of New-York isn't in a vacuum fuckwit.----------
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ME: Well don't hold me to account over something someone else said, and don't scoff at things you don't understand fully. I made it PERFECTLY clear that my musings about a car that did not have to stop for fuel was NOT a perpetual motion machine and did NOT violate thermodynamics because outside forces would be acting on the system such as sunlight, Coriolis effect, microorganisms, wind, heat, elements of the surrounding air, etc.
You people just took the thermodynamics thing and ran with it. I tried to clarify many times, but you would hear none of it, now you can fuck off. If you won't read what I write, then stop making assumptions about it based on what some other jackass said.
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WOODY: --------Dude, it is REALLY freaking hard to tell when you're joking and when you're serious. I'm well aware of Indoninjas style of arguing though, it's bloody annoying.------------
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ME: I'm dead serious. I wouldn't doubt that fucker was on someone's payroll for one minute. I'm not saying he is or isn't, I'm just saying it's possible. These people exist and are out there posting on the internet in an effort to skew key issues. They are PAID to do it by the unwitting U.S. taxpayer. Indoninja doesn't even pay attention to the things I write. It's almost like he doesn't even read it and goes right back to his internal script. Fuck him. I'm sick of arguing with his ignorant ass.
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WOODY:---------calm down, we won't destroy the planet, at worst we'd have to live in climate controlled buildings all the time. To be honest the effects of humanities pollution already peaked a few decades ago,(probably I'm aware that I can't say for sure) there has been a massive increase in Asthma related deaths and incidents of other respitatory conditions, but it turns out that humanity as a whole doesn't really care.
The Uranium would theoretically run out in the same way that the sun will eventually go out. Look at the ratios of how much there is even in just one stream from one year compared to how much the world would need. We have fuckloads, sriously insane amounts, no-one needs to worry about it for thousands of years.--------------
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ME: You think the worst that can happen is we'll have to live in climate controlled buildings??? Are you seriously stupid? That is an honest question, dude. I can't tell when you're being serious either. *pulls out hair*
If some scientists' hypotheses are correct and there is a "point of no return" for global warming after which the feedback loops would take over and boil us all alive in our own atmosphere, then that would be a little worse than having to live in climate controlled buildings, doncha think? Plus, what plants are gonna survive for us to live off of? What are we going to cultivate to eat if we can't even stand to be outside anymore because it's so fucking hot?
Pollution peaked a few decades ago? Where did you get that information? From a Cracker Jack box? Dude, China and India each have a billion plus people and they are in the midst of the largest industrial revolution since the United States and Europe in the earlth 20th century and you think that pollution peaked decades ago?
Come on...you're smarter than that, surely.
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[UK levels of air polution peaked a while ago, I'm sure its different for different countries though. Like I said we might have to stay inside controlled climate buildings/vehicles all the time, I don't see what your point is about boiling us alive, it won't boil us alive, because we'll be inside cool buildings. And a few million years ago there was a big fuck off forest on the south pole, there's no problem about plants, they'll just move north, already in the UK Oaks are strugglin in the south but thriving in scotland. I've seen a brazilian plant (I don't know whta its called but its straight from the rainforest) growing in Cornwall. There is no point of long return, billions of years of climate changes and earth has always swung back again, in the long run I suspect the next ice age will bother humanity more.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 04:02:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Hey Mr. Beano
So let me get this straight: you don't like that someone has allegorically painted your little island as cowards, consistently provides pages of writen material that he considers reference for you to refute and then intelligently defends his position against not only an onslaught of negative pricks that simply don't like him because the think he is fucking nuts- or people like you who without doing the requisite research dismiss what he is saying based ONLY on the way he says it?
Thats kinda sad don't you think?
I don't know about you... but the more I read his links, and watch the movies that get sent out... the more I at least question the possibility of this "radical theory" that there is at least some significant global puppeteering going on.
Now, personally I don't think it as insidious and successful as Mr. Tooth seems to >KNOW< it is (I tend to think things are a little more random than that.) - and I don't think the sky is falling quite as fast as he would suggest it might be... but if you give his arguments and the source material even a fleeting chance- it does contain some pretty compelling elements to suggest there is FAR more going on that us ignorant masses care to know about.
Perhaps someone yelling "WAKE THE FUCK UP!" isn't all that polite... but why don't we pretend it is really more like a gentle nudge and a tactful "you know its really time we started to pay a little more attention to some of the more questionable things that are going on every day that we either dismiss completely, largely ignore or acknowledge but can't be bothered to do anything about"... and then carry on the discussion.
"Wake the fuck up" is just easier... and largely appropriate.
r.
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-17 14:07:15 (#)
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Alright rob, you can take off the tights and cape, palooka. Brad doesn't need you to swoop in and defend his views from those who disagree with them; he's perfectly capable of doing so on his own.
A lot of people here don't have a problem with Brad's theories per se; it's the way he presents and defends them. As such, more users come to his posts to argue with him and he in turn gets more exposure for his ideas, so it abstractly works out positively for him this way.
So, you can strap your reviews with all the intelligence you like but when you slip a juvenile insult like calling his detractors "pricks", you lose the point of why he posts these things here in the first place. You're defending his and your own opinions (key word) while quasi-sophmorically dismissing others, revealing your inherent piety and thus undermining the value of the point you try to make.
At least Brad is entertaining in his defenses, while yours bores me shitless (there's that pesky opinion thing again).
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Rob I think SilvrWolf replied to you far better than I am capable of.
I am capable of only this.
Fuck you.
Why don't to you read what I wrote and not get so tangle up in his theories and poking your dick up his arse?
All this 'I don't know about you but the more I read etc etc....'
I have said this before and will say it again (fucking hell...talk about repeat yourself!). I READ MOST OF WHAT Brad spouts on here 2 maybe three years ago...I read, I asses and I decide what to believe. I then tuck my ideas and thoughts away and don't throw them down other people's throats.
My whole issue is the infantile way he called my country cowards and accused us of sliding out of the back door.
I fucking wish we had slid out of the back door. I wish we'd never got involved in the first place. What I am saying is that making general sweeping statements about a nation or a country has to be false.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 03:56:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Why shouldn't he criticise a country that has young men die because they bought into a war that some other country's leaders made up? That's a pretty fucking excellent reason to criticise a country to my mind.
We have sold our own soldiers down the river just so we can cuddle a bit closer to america in the hopes of getting a handout. You know this to be true - we (and I'm referring to brits here) all do. If you find it offensive that's because it IS offensive - it's fucking outrageous and we should be making sure our politicians know it.
There is no need to get upset with someone pointing out our wrongdoing just because that person happens to be american. We're not the guy in the white hat here and you'll notice any criticism of england he makes does not even come close to the bile that he spits at his own country.
Ease off the national pride a little bit - we don't have much justification for it at this moment in time
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Fuck you too.
Why can't anyone get over the political shit that he and you are spurting. I pointed this out from the off.... Listen to me because I'm going to say it again.
I agree with what he says in general. OK, I don't like the administration either. But...But...this is the important bit.
Making a sweeping statement that the 'country is cowardly' and is trying to 'slip out the back door' is plain fucking stupid.
Do not tar me with the same brush you tar Tony Blair.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 02:32:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by the_lone_stranger (user info) at 2006-07-18 02:21:42 (#)
Ranking: 2
good read. not too much new here, but many aren't paying attention.
check this out if you haven't read it:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
it's interesting at least
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Thank you.
Submitted by the_lone_stranger (user info) at 2006-07-18 02:21:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
good read. not too much new here, but many aren't paying attention.
check this out if you haven't read it:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
it's interesting at least
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-18 01:55:04 EDT (#)
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Sorry, Rob, I disagree. Perkman is indeed a complete idiot. He cannot write, he cannot
spell, he cannot construct a complete sentence. He is a fool beyond comparison.
Those are his good points. . . . . .
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Fair enough.
r.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-18 01:52:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 23:14:13 (#)
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You're giving Jason Greening, the child rapist from Denver, Colorado, member of the Colorado Democratic Party, more credit than he's worth.
Please point me to a single thing he's said over the past 6 months that is even worth reading.
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The last thing I want is to facilitate another skirmish between the two of you... God knows I have seen enough petty back and forth from you kids in my short time here. You two don't like each other. We get it.
Not having the exposure to past idiocy, death threats or any alleged proclivity to fondle young children- I am just going on what I have actually read. Despite his asinine behavior when you are involved, I have found him to be at least somewhat articulate and honest.
However, if I were picking people to be on my trivial pursuit team- you'd fully be the choice. No question.
So please, stop wasting time scraping with someone who is absolutely not worth your time. You need to be out there in digging up and exposing all of the important shit that we, the people, need to be aware of.
r.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2006-07-17 23:31:31 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 23:14:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:09:40 (#)
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Aww Christ Almighty.
Look, Perk. Go away.
The point of my response to Mr. Greening was illicit more productive discourse. Despite his annoying tendency to foam at the mouth when talking with ETS- he generally has some rather compelling things to add to the conversation. You are just trolling.
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You're giving Jason Greening, the child rapist from Denver, Colorado, member of the Colorado Democratic Party, more credit than he's worth.
Please point me to a single thing he's said over the past 6 months that is even worth reading.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:52:31 EDT (#)
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Looks like Mr. Sloped Forehead is rubbing off on me
"Even if it from"
Mmmmmmmmmhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:44:45 EDT (#)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
I do love me a hate filled diatribe, even if it from Cro-Magnon over here
Good show, stupid, you just went up an IQ point in my book, bringing your total to 6
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Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:24:24 (#)
Ranking: 0
For you to think I would give a lonely, fat, slob, who stalks people on the net, and also stalks people from uber my real name makes me laugh.
It really does. Unlike you I have a life and a reputation to hold on to. I plan to hopefully play D-1 sports. I'm not some fat loser who has no one who cares about who they are, or what they do to be able to leave my entire life on the net. For anyone and everyone to see and critque.
Your life is in shambles, You have failed so miserably and have a life that is completely utterly pathetic that you could post your ugly face on here with a thong on your head and get no repercussions. No boss at work to bitch at you well because your nothing.
Me and others like me don't have that luxury. Were actually trying to make something out of our lives.
I would never give anyone on here. And Someone like "you" my information. For 2 simple reasons. 1. I don't take this site that serioulsy, and 2. I have my own friends in real life, why do I need to hang out and talk to strangers in real life that I don't even fucking know? please let me know? I don't need ubercons and this site to make friends you pathetic dolt.
God your life makes me wonder this.
How can anyone be so fucking pathetic? Please Piggy let me know?
And your not going to stop huh? your going to go on your little Alter hunt that isn't founded in anything but the crevise of your small brain huh? Go talk to people on AOL and ask who "PerkMan" really is. Is he a Shandy Alter? or a Bart one? while everyone looks at you rolls there eyes and laughs. And they all think this.
"that Jaypeg guy is a fucking loser, really it's so fucking sad. this guy actually thinks ubersite is real or something, He actually think this site means something, Wow I have never met anyone that pathetic. Lets just encourage him and laugh" (All uber tell me I'm not mistaken. This is how you all truly do feel about the pig huh?)
And you won't get it will you. Until Method spits in your face at the next Ubercon, or else Apollo Makes fun of you and they shoot you with a paint ball gun in the ass, or else they all lie to you about where the ubercon is held, or else when you go to someones house they all turn off the lights and pretend not to be there. Then let you in right when your about to leave. They will all laugh and so you will you. but their's will be laughter of glee. Yours will be a nervous "Cackle".
Then it's going to go on to Bart telling someone on here that it's really creepy that you call him at night time to "talk". And he will get fed up with you going to him to moderate uber and get people banned. Then finally Bart will tell Method or someone how much of a tool he thinks you really are. And then the entire of uber will turn on you. Bart may even by you or else get a restraining order. Because well your not mentally stable.
And I wouldn't give a mentally unstable person my name or even my address. to you I will always just be Perkman you fucking whack job.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:18:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:09:40 (#)
Ranking: 0
Aww Christ Almighty.
Look, Perk. Go away.
The point of my response to Mr. Greening was illicit more productive discourse. Despite his annoying tendency to foam at the mouth when talking with ETS- he generally has some rather compelling things to add to the conversation. You are just trolling.
See my comments were not an open invitation or in any way encouragement for you to pollute this thread with your own brand of stupidity.
Cutting and pasting this drivel in some pseudo triumphant attempt to either make yourself look cooler- or somehow embarrass Mr. Greening has failed miserably. It's desperate, it's sad and most of all it's fucking boring.
Having skimmed through your verbal diarrhea its obvious that yer not a complete idiot, but your ill-conceived and poorly executed rambling is shockingly bad.
I know... why don't you go start up one them trendy new blogs! Huh? That way you can blather on all you want without wasting everyone's time.
Or if you insist on sticking around- please try and be a little less annoying and A LOT more intelligent.
r.
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Sorry, Rob, I disagree. Perkman is indeed a complete idiot. He cannot write, he cannot
spell, he cannot construct a complete sentence. He is a fool beyond comparison.
Those are his good points. . . . . .
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 21:09:40 EDT (#)
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Aww Christ Almighty.
Look, Perk. Go away.
The point of my response to Mr. Greening was illicit more productive discourse. Despite his annoying tendency to foam at the mouth when talking with ETS- he generally has some rather compelling things to add to the conversation. You are just trolling.
See my comments were not an open invitation or in any way encouragement for you to pollute this thread with your own brand of stupidity.
Cutting and pasting this drivel in some pseudo triumphant attempt to either make yourself look cooler- or somehow embarrass Mr. Greening has failed miserably. It's desperate, it's sad and most of all it's fucking boring.
Having skimmed through your verbal diarrhea its obvious that yer not a complete idiot, but your ill-conceived and poorly executed rambling is shockingly bad.
I know... why don't you go start up one them trendy new blogs! Huh? That way you can blather on all you want without wasting everyone's time.
Or if you insist on sticking around- please try and be a little less annoying and A LOT more intelligent.
r.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:45:27 EDT (#)
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The Ultimate response to Jaypig. IF he ever gets out of line use post this. I apoligize because this has nothing to do with the above post.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:24:24 (#)
Ranking: 0
For you to think I would give a lonely, fat, slob, who stalks people on the net, and also stalks people from uber my real name makes me laugh.
It really does. Unlike you I have a life and a reputation to hold on to. I plan to hopefully play D-1 sports. I'm not some fat loser who has no one who cares about who they are, or what they do to be able to leave my entire life on the net. For anyone and everyone to see and critque.
Your life is in shambles, You have failed so miserably and have a life that is completely utterly pathetic that you could post your ugly face on here with a thong on your head and get no repercussions. No boss at work to bitch at you well because your nothing.
Me and others like me don't have that luxury. Were actually trying to make something out of our lives.
I would never give anyone on here. And Someone like "you" my information. For 2 simple reasons. 1. I don't take this site that serioulsy, and 2. I have my own friends in real life, why do I need to hang out and talk to strangers in real life that I don't even fucking know? please let me know? I don't need ubercons and this site to make friends you pathetic dolt.
God your life makes me wonder this.
How can anyone be so fucking pathetic? Please Piggy let me know?
And your not going to stop huh? your going to go on your little Alter hunt that isn't founded in anything but the crevise of your small brain huh? Go talk to people on AOL and ask who "PerkMan" really is. Is he a Shandy Alter? or a Bart one? while everyone looks at you rolls there eyes and laughs. And they all think this.
"that Jaypeg guy is a fucking loser, really it's so fucking sad. this guy actually thinks ubersite is real or something, He actually think this site means something, Wow I have never met anyone that pathetic. Lets just encourage him and laugh" (All uber tell me I'm not mistaken. This is how you all truly do feel about the pig huh?)
And you won't get it will you. Until Method spits in your face at the next Ubercon, or else Apollo Makes fun of you and they shoot you with a paint ball gun in the ass, or else they all lie to you about where the ubercon is held, or else when you go to someones house they all turn off the lights and pretend not to be there. Then let you in right when your about to leave. They will all laugh and so you will you. but their's will be laughter of glee. Yours will be a nervous "Cackle".
Then it's going to go on to Bart telling someone on here that it's really creepy that you call him at night time to "talk". And he will get fed up with you going to him to moderate uber and get people banned. Then finally Bart will tell Method or someone how much of a tool he thinks you really are. And then the entire of uber will turn on you. Bart may even by you or else get a restraining order. Because well your not mentally stable.
And I wouldn't give a mentally unstable person my name or even my address. to you I will always just be Perkman you fucking whack job.
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 19:16:17 EDT (#)
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WOODY: ---------I am familiar with the post, I enjoyed the discussion on it. Your assertions on it were extremely naive, and thats being polite, but not physically impossible I guess. None of the explanations you made made it particularly clear that you weren't advocation a perpetual motion machine and that you were is the perception that came across very strongly.
It was overshadowed for my though by the guy who claimed that his workmate had acheived cold fusion on his desk.
I was actually reffering to where you said that building 7 collapsed in a time that could only be acheived in a vacuum. I'm not entirely 100% sure if thats covered by thermodynamics so I'll make a new Law. The Law of New-York isn't in a vacuum fuckwit.----------
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ME: Well don't hold me to account over something someone else said, and don't scoff at things you don't understand fully. I made it PERFECTLY clear that my musings about a car that did not have to stop for fuel was NOT a perpetual motion machine and did NOT violate thermodynamics because outside forces would be acting on the system such as sunlight, Coriolis effect, microorganisms, wind, heat, elements of the surrounding air, etc.
You people just took the thermodynamics thing and ran with it. I tried to clarify many times, but you would hear none of it, now you can fuck off. If you won't read what I write, then stop making assumptions about it based on what some other jackass said.
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WOODY: --------Dude, it is REALLY freaking hard to tell when you're joking and when you're serious. I'm well aware of Indoninjas style of arguing though, it's bloody annoying.------------
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ME: I'm dead serious. I wouldn't doubt that fucker was on someone's payroll for one minute. I'm not saying he is or isn't, I'm just saying it's possible. These people exist and are out there posting on the internet in an effort to skew key issues. They are PAID to do it by the unwitting U.S. taxpayer. Indoninja doesn't even pay attention to the things I write. It's almost like he doesn't even read it and goes right back to his internal script. Fuck him. I'm sick of arguing with his ignorant ass.
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WOODY:---------calm down, we won't destroy the planet, at worst we'd have to live in climate controlled buildings all the time. To be honest the effects of humanities pollution already peaked a few decades ago,(probably I'm aware that I can't say for sure) there has been a massive increase in Asthma related deaths and incidents of other respitatory conditions, but it turns out that humanity as a whole doesn't really care.
The Uranium would theoretically run out in the same way that the sun will eventually go out. Look at the ratios of how much there is even in just one stream from one year compared to how much the world would need. We have fuckloads, sriously insane amounts, no-one needs to worry about it for thousands of years.--------------
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ME: You think the worst that can happen is we'll have to live in climate controlled buildings??? Are you seriously stupid? That is an honest question, dude. I can't tell when you're being serious either. *pulls out hair*
If some scientists' hypotheses are correct and there is a "point of no return" for global warming after which the feedback loops would take over and boil us all alive in our own atmosphere, then that would be a little worse than having to live in climate controlled buildings, doncha think? Plus, what plants are gonna survive for us to live off of? What are we going to cultivate to eat if we can't even stand to be outside anymore because it's so fucking hot?
Pollution peaked a few decades ago? Where did you get that information? From a Cracker Jack box? Dude, China and India each have a billion plus people and they are in the midst of the largest industrial revolution since the United States and Europe in the earlth 20th century and you think that pollution peaked decades ago?
Come on...you're smarter than that, surely.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-17 18:46:59 EDT (#)
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Brad, you didn't offend me in any way, dude, and if I came off that way, I sincerely apologize. You know it's only occasionally that I comment on your recent posts and mostly, it's because I have nothing poignant or insightful to add. I do read, think about and often research the topics you bring forth, though. I just don't come to Uber to be serious anymore, so when I do make comments, they're usually rude or just some kind of blatant sarcasm (or insane randomness) off the cuff.
What made you think I'm offended? Please don't take any of my comments seriously, or if *I* have offended you, let me know how or why and we'll discuss it.
The only reason I commented here was to address rob_berg and the way he was appearing to me in his own replies. It was in no way an attack on you or your ideas.
You know as well as I that I respect your opinions and actually try to make sure I have as much info as possible should I decide to retort. I enjoy the discussions we've had on here, but I'm just missing the old days where we wasted three hours going back and forth with Tool lyrics and making Loren's hoo-hoo tickle.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-17 18:35:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Hahahahaa way to put the pig in his place!
hahaha jaypig you suck at life. hahah an internet dick you are hey? why because your a pathetic bitch in the real world huh? god your life is god awful.
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Hey Perk, your mother wants you to bring her some dinner. Bitch is gettung hungry sucking my cock all day.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-07-17 17:44:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:29:59 (#)
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Anyone else starting to think that Rob Berg is ETS?
He hasn't flipped out yet, so he might not be, but I really doubt he isn't another one of ETS's alters that he loves to converse with.
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Oh hell yes, well maybe, but he's a much more sensible persona.
submitted by ETS:
First, let me address you allegation that I won't accept the laws of thermodynamics. That whole argument with Indoninja goes back to a complete misunderstanding of what I was trying to say about the potential for a vehicle that would never have to stop to fuel up.
Indo's assertion was that the power you get out of the sytem cannot be greater than the power going into the system. This is true enough and I acknowledged it NUMEROUS times and was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IGNORED. I refuted that unequivocally when I said there might be ways of harnessing the potential for microorganisms, sunlight, wind, and/or heat in such a way as to extract the requisite energy for use in the vehicle.
That was completely ignored and has followed me ever since.
I tried to tell Indo that's what I was saying several times and it fell on deaf ears. You people had rather keep up your idea of me than acknowledge when YOU'RE wrong. That's the bottom fucking line.
Don't believe me, go look it the fuck up! I think it was my post called 'Hybrids: a Rant' or something. You search for it, cause I don't give a flying fuck anymore.
---------I am familiar with the post, I enjoyed the discussion on it. Your assertions on it were extremely naive, and thats being polite, but not physically impossible I guess. None of the explanations you made made it particularly clear that you weren't advocation a perpetual motion machine and that you were is the perception that came across very strongly.
It was overshadowed for my though by the guy who claimed that his workmate had acheived cold fusion on his desk.
I was actually reffering to where you said that building 7 collapsed in a time that could only be acheived in a vacuum. I'm not entirely 100% sure if thats covered by thermodynamics so I'll make a new Law. The Law of New-York isn't in a vacuum fuckwit.----------
I accuse Indo of possibly being employed by the government because the U.S. govenrnment has a well-documented psy-ops campaign in place through a company called The Rendon Group (http://www.rendon.com/), this is the group that plants stories in foreign newspapers for the U.S. government for the purpose of selling war or policy, and Indo's fervent disinformation and distraction campaign he wages on virtually every single one of my posts to incite hatred toward me fits the MO of such firms. The accusation was less of a serious one and more of a rhetorical one. I wanted to draw attention to the methods by which Indo was trying to subvert many or ALL of my points.
--------Dude, it is REALLY freaking hard to tell when you're joking and when you're serious. I'm well aware of Indoninjas style of arguing though, it's bloody annoying.------------
Here's the thing, Woody... I hope you're right about the uranium from seawater. The problem is, it's still not gonna be infinite and will only serve to buy us time. I've been an advocate of nuclear for a while now as a way to try to stem the use of carbon-based sources. While the dangers are still there with nuclear, I think we've reached a point where the alternative, fossil fuels, are even more dangerous. Eventually, we will either have to learn to live in accordance with our environment and find clean sources of energy, or burn all the coal in the ground and basically destroy the planet in the process.
---------calm down, we won't destroy the planet, at worst we'd have to live in climate controlled buildings all the time. To be honest the effects of humanities pollution already peaked a few decades ago,(probably I'm aware that I can't say for sure) there has been a massive increase in Asthma related deaths and incidents of other respitatory conditions, but it turns out that humanity as a whole doesn't really care.
The Uranium would theoretically run out in the same way that the sun will eventually go out. Look at the ratios of how much there is even in just one stream from one year compared to how much the world would need. We have fuckloads, sriously insane amounts, no-one needs to worry about it for thousands of years.--------------
You raise an interesting point, though, Woody... If uranium from seawater is such a viable option, then why is it not offered more as a possible alternative? Could it be that someone is simply trying to scare people into believing that so they will accept that our boys keep dying over it?
Could it be that they want us to think oil is necessary so they can keep us burning it as long as possible, thus securing certain parties' investments?
Could it POSSIBLY be that the war machine-makers and the oil-drillers don't WANT us to find alternative sources until the last possible moment? Because if you're correct, then I can find no other way to explain why we're dicking around in Iraq.
Make sense?
------------No it doesn't make sense. Mining uranium is simply cheaper that filtering it. thats all there is too it, as oil continues to lose its economic advantage other sources will continue to take over.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-17 17:28:02 EDT (#)
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I wrote a respone for you, you cock. Go read it. ETS
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:51:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by RenTheUnsightly (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:48:28 (#)
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+2 for being a so-called extremist.
Jesus. Do you really think the governments of Isreal, U.S., Iran, and the leaders of Hezbollah really give a fuck about captured soldiers? Yeah, the Isreali gov will not stand by the Hezbollah terrorists capturint TWO FUCKING SOLDIER, and they are willing to let countless civilizians die from bombings as a result.
This is about IRAN VERSUS US. Geopolitics, plain and simple.
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Thank you. At least someone gets it.
See: Operation Himmler or the Gleiwitz incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Gleiwitz_radio_station)
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:45:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:29:59 (#)
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Anyone else starting to think that Rob Berg is ETS?
He hasn't flipped out yet, so he might not be, but I really doubt he isn't another one of ETS's alters that he loves to converse with.
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I don't quite understand the whole alter paranoia- but I find it terribly amusing.
Honestly, I don't have the energy or the drive to be ETS, I'm far too lazy. I can see why you might simplistically make that assumption; however, it doesn't make it any less stupid.
"but I really doubt he isn't"
Pretty sweet English there... next time just try "I think he might be"
Considering your name I am going to ASSume its an esl sort of issue- but double negatives are dumb. (unless I do them, of course, then they don't not suck.)
See, I just would like to see some more proactive discussions take place around here... and figured since I don't have that much to offer in the instigation of them, I can at least do my part in attempting to foster them.
Besides, making fun of the idiots just happens to be one of my more favorite past-times... and this site is plum full of 'em.
Oh, and I'm bored and a little prone to being an gratuitous attention whore.
r.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:44:05 EDT (#)
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Nah, I reckon he's canadian.
But then I once spent ten minutes convinced that you were ETS indo, so that shows how much I know.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:29:59 EDT (#)
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Anyone else starting to think that Rob Berg is ETS?
He hasn't flipped out yet, so he might not be, but I really doubt he isn't another one of ETS's alters that he loves to converse with.
Submitted by DonovanMD (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:28:54 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:21:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:06:22 (#)
Ranking: 2
"With the exception of a couple of occasions where I thought the post in question was incredibly ignorant, I have stayed away from political discussions on Uber and I will continue to do so. This is mainly due to the fact that I don't consider myself an expert, well read maybe (various new sources, chomsky, Truthout etc ect) but far from qualified. "
Dude, I think that is a real shame. You are incredibly well spoken and obviously very intelligent!
You don't have to be an expert- the beauty of a site like this is that it attracts all kinds of people with various levels of exposure to all SORTS of random things. Conversations like this should encourage open communication and allow all sorts of questions to be asked and the answers should (and often do) come from various sources, with varying degrees of expertise.
Pretty please, don't let the stupidity around here get you down... I think the more smart people who participate in these little chats, the more likely the rabble will go entertain themselves elsewhere and the grown ups can not only just talk about this shit- but maybe start forming some sort of plan to proactively affect it.
Either way I absolutely enjoyed your review and truly hope to read more them!
r.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:06:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-16 20:24:14 (#)
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Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2006-07-16 19:40:49 (#)
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Are you fucking serious? Have you seen a Native Reserve in Canada?
Or you could live like they did before the Europeans, but have fun dying from diseases we've already cured by the age of 35.
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It's not the length of life, but the quality that matters.
And yes, of course I meant before the white man came, although knowing what I know now, I might have just let them all starve to death. That would be a tough choice.
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Where to start here...
I don't come here anymore. Popped on today to check out a post for a friend and ended up clicking here to see what the fuss was all about.
Interesting stuff. As far as the Israeli conflict is concerned, I'm going to keep my opinion to myself. Suffice to say I agree with you on various points.
With the exception of a couple of occasions where I thought the post in question was incredibly ignorant, I have stayed away from political discussions on Uber and I will continue to do so. This is mainly due to the fact that I don't consider myself an expert, well read maybe (various new sources, chomsky, Truthout etc ect) but far from qualified.
On the issue of Aboriginal peoples, I am inclined to voice my opinion.
In another life I worked in the forest industry. I was a key voice in the Canadian Woodlot program and helped to form the guidelines for one of the forest districts in the interior of British Columbia Canada.
As part of my job, I was responsible for Archeological Impact assessments along with biodiversity and other concerns when developing plans for sustained harvest.
This meant I was trained to recognize signs of historic indegenous(sp)habitation in areas we were preparing to cut. I spent many hours in Native reserves, being taught the history of various clans by Elders and local archeologists alike. I also took it upon myself (out of my own curiosity) to read the accounts of the earliest explorers to BC.
As far as your perception of the Aboriginal peoples being noble, I have to agree to a point. They did live off the land, they did worship nature in its various facets, and their impact to the environment was minimal at best (in most cases). To say they live in harmony with the land is a bit much, suffice to say they lived far more harmoniously with it than the Europeans did since they arrived.
However, lets not forget that they were human beings with all the faults that are inherent with our genetic makeup.
They were not immune to jealousy, rage, envy, murder and the like.
Wars were fought with all the brutality that exists today. Women and children (Sometimes in the womb)were murdered. Entire peoples were wiped out in one masacre after another. Slavery was both practiced and expected. Women were abducted and raped.
To say their quality of life was better is a gross generalization in my opinion. I cannot speak for the tribes in warmer climes, but the clans up here spent spring and summer preparing for fall and winter.
Winter's were spent in a bid for survival.
Accounts I have read from the earliest explorers talk of squallid living conditions and a high suicide rate long before the Pox or catholic re-education came into play.
What happened after the Europeans and religious zealots arrived was an atrocity as evil as anything that has happened on this earth, there's no denying that, but don't fool youself.
The people living here before any of us were just people. They were as human as you and I and prone to all the negative connotations that comes with being what we are.
Would they have been better off without our interference? Definitely.
Did they live as blessed children in a Garden of Eden before we arrived? Definitely not.
Uhhkay, I'm spent. Buhbye again.
Submitted by PerkMan (user info) at 2006-07-17 16:04:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 12:43:07 (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-17 06:50:35 (#)
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So, Rob, lemme get this straight.
I'm doing something wrong...
By doing that which this site was made for...
Look, I never said you were doing anything wrong. Just boring and pathetic. You can continue being a child if you feel the urge- it just make you look like a fool and instead of accomplishing your goal of humiliating ETS- you only discredit and marginalize yourself.
"Trying to see the logic, but I really don't, cockfag."
Cockfag?
Are we on the playground here? I tell you that you actions are pathetic, encourage you to reel in your insane grudge because its boring the shit out of me, and you come back with an uncreative fagitty slur?
YAWN.
"To quote John Malkovich, as Teddy KGB (which was one of the most over the top Ruskie accents I've ever heard)
I'll splash the pot, whenever the fuck I want. "
Yes, you have a big giant internet dick. We are all suitably impressed.
"Don't like it?
Oh... Gosh oh golly oh geewillikers and darn.
(That's 50's speak for "oh fucking well, get the fuck over it, mushroom stamp")"
Look, its amusing- at times. But this rampage you have been on is ridiculous and largely ignorant. If you feel the urge to continue splashing the pot- go right ahead. I only care because I think you are an intelligent, affable kid and it pains me to watch you reduce yourself to such a blathering idiot when it comes to the EST fellow. Be objective. Hate him all you want... but just realize that without doing the proper research you just end up looking like a cranky petulant child.
Hooray for you. You win. (I guess.)
r.
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Hahahahaa way to put the pig in his place!
hahaha jaypig you suck at life. hahah an internet dick you are hey? why because your a pathetic bitch in the real world huh? god your life is god awful.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:58:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:29:48 (#)
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Rob: I appreciate your comments. They are moderate and thoughtful and aren't calling people 'pricks' so much as asking them politely not to ACT like them.
WHATEVER!
FUCK YOU, PRICK.
:)
r.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:56:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:33:57 (#)
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Rob, it's not about the internet dick.
I simply can't stand people who think they're better because they think they can play "Mr. Moderator".
And sorry, twatslap, you fall into that category right now.
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Look, Mr. Greening.
Honestly... I don't want to fight with you. Yer acting childish and I only say these things to you because I WANT you to part of the discussion.
I don't think I am better... I KNOW I am better. But that is beside the point and a silly thing to focus on.
With a site that is void of Moderators, moderation needs to come from the people who want to participate in a discussion that is open and honest. As I said, divergent opinion is encouraged... but BACK YER SHIT UP. I am just asking you to do the research and then enter the discussion intelligently or simply fuck off and go waste your time elsewhere. You are entitled to do whatever you want.
Twatslap?
meh. Do you actually feel proud of yourself after you squat out such inane vocabularic turds.
(look I made up a word too! hooray for me!)
r.
Submitted by RenTheUnsightly (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:48:28 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
+2 for being a so-called extremist.
Jesus. Do you really think the governments of Isreal, U.S., Iran, and the leaders of Hezbollah really give a fuck about captured soldiers? Yeah, the Isreali gov will not stand by the Hezbollah terrorists capturint TWO FUCKING SOLDIER, and they are willing to let countless civilizians die from bombings as a result.
This is about IRAN VERSUS US. Geopolitics, plain and simple.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:33:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Rob, it's not about the internet dick.
I simply can't stand people who think they're better because they think they can play "Mr. Moderator".
And sorry, twatslap, you fall into that category right now.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:29:48 EDT (#)
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Excuse me...I called you "wardy", I meant Woody.
Silvr: Did I offend you in some way I'm unaware of?
Rob: I appreciate your comments. They are moderate and thoughtful and aren't calling people 'pricks' so much as asking them politely not to ACT like them.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-17 15:21:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-07-17 13:47:17 (#)
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Rob, the reason so many people seem (are if you like) like giant tits, (mmmm giant tits) and aren't bothering to refute his points is that it doesn't make any difference. He simply will not acknowledge anything that shows him wrong, up to and including refusing to accept the laws of thermodynamics, and accusing Indoninja of being employed by the usa government to slander his arguments and generally disturb the discussion of 11/9 on the web.
He refuses to accept he has been proven wrong ever.
Watch.
ETS/Brad/Vengeance/whatever you'd like me to call you....you did a post claiming that there was going to be a quote "energy crisis" you claimed that when oil ran out we would not be able to produce enough electricity and as some sort of consequence to this.
I said that we can get plenty of energy by filtering uranium from seawater, as one example of the huge number of sources of energy available.
Sources...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=uranium+from+seawater&spell=1
There are lots here, just google the phrase uranium from seawater.
You said you would respond to my point about this several weeks ago. You haven't.
Now admit you are wrong. No ifs or buts or wriggling or changing the subject. Just one review saying yes I was completely wrong, there will be no energy crisis.
If you do I will leave Ubersite forever.
That is, using your definition of forever, i.e 9 days.
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First, let me address you allegation that I won't accept the laws of thermodynamics. That whole argument with Indoninja goes back to a complete misunderstanding of what I was trying to say about the potential for a vehicle that would never have to stop to fuel up.
Indo's assertion was that the power you get out of the sytem cannot be greater than the power going into the system. This is true enough and I acknowledged it NUMEROUS times and was COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IGNORED. I refuted that unequivocally when I said there might be ways of harnessing the potential for microorganisms, sunlight, wind, and/or heat in such a way as to extract the requisite energy for use in the vehicle.
That was completely ignored and has followed me ever since.
I tried to tell Indo that's what I was saying several times and it fell on deaf ears. You people had rather keep up your idea of me than acknowledge when YOU'RE wrong. That's the bottom fucking line.
Don't believe me, go look it the fuck up! I think it was my post called 'Hybrids: a Rant' or something. You search for it, cause I don't give a flying fuck anymore.
I