A synopsis of Pre-WWIII North America (Response) (1118 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-07-21 18:31:01 EDT
This is in response to marginwalker's post of the same name: http://www.ubersite.com/m/90788
It was too long for a review.
I don't understand how it can be so obvious to some people, yet most are completely aloof.
I've been more or less screaming about this for the last 6-12 months.
This is an all-out, concerted, 60-year-long effort to dominate the world. There is a new definition for the word "empire". The creation of this new "empire" goes back to WWII, and even further back to WWI. It involves the creation of the U.S. Federal Reserve, which is principally owned and controlled by the Bank of England. See this video for more: (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2641342891593561909)
It involves the inflammation of apocalyptic religious political sentiment with the creation of Israel in 1947 (something that is mentioned in the Revelation of Jesus Christ given to his servent John). The ultimate goal? To completely dominate the last remaining cheap oil reserves on the planet, most of which lie in hostile middle-eastern terrirtories.
A caller on C-SPAN displayed this ignorance earlier today. "This is all written in the Book of Revelation," she said. "God said that in the end of time Israel will be surrounded by enemies, and it's coming true. We have to stand beside Israel to be on the side of right." It looks like Revelation come true because the people in power are making it look like Revelation come true on purpose. This is not to say that by trying to fulfill the prophesy that they actually AREN'T, but the control of this viewpoint has carried massive political weight for decades. It was an important political tool used during the cold war to secure the Christian vote.
You see the consistent bombardment and repeating of the same information in an effort to BRAINWASH the American pulic with the media. Hitler said, "The bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it." Orwell said, "If you repeat a lie enough, it will become truth."
This is what we're seeing.
Look back at the first attack on WTC... (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6612404919108240876)
The FBI were the ones that paid for the 1993 attack! The man who parked the van in the garage, Emed Salem, got the FBI agents on TAPE telling him exactly how to carry out the attack. They paid for it with taxpayers money! Mr. Salem THOUGHT he was there to help infiltrate the terrorist organization that was supposedly carrying out the attack, and the FBI was SUPPOSED to have given him fake bomb material to sell them, but he grew suspicious that the FBI was up to something else, so he tapes some of his conversations with them for his own protection. The agents are caught on tape telling him to be sure to park beside the main pillars (to make sure the explosion would be coupled to the ground and bring down the building.) He disobeyed them by parking away from the designated spot because he was suspicious they had given the group ACTUAL bomb material. The government benefited greatly from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. In particular, the bombing eventually resulted, along with the Oklahoma City bombing, in the proposal of the 1995 Counterterrorism Bill greatly expanding federal authorities' budgets and powers.
Move ahead to Waco... Here you have what amounts to an attack on basic freedoms - an attack on a peaceful group of people who had never attacked anyone, nor were planning any attacks on anyone, who simply wanted to arm themselves against what they perceived as a possible effort by others to attack them for their beliefs - a fear which apparently was founded. Our government murdered those people, men, women, and children, to scare people into becoming good little tattle-tales in the coming "War on Terror".
We see echoes of this today. In training exercises in several states, the Army Special Forces are training with state and local police, AND foreign troops - yes FOREIGN TROOPS - in exercises to infiltrate American cities in mock emergencies. This is in direct violation of Posse Comitatus Law, and is done under what's called "Presidential Decision Directive 25" set forth by Clinton and the "Model State Emergency Health Powers Act" passed under Bush. These training missions even include, in some cases, the use of children in tattle-telling on potential 'terrorists' that might be in the city. See Alex Jones' film "Martial Law: Rise of the Police State" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661) for more on this. You might think the guy an alarmist, but the fact is this stuff is happening. He's not making it up.
Now look at Oklahoma City. There was legislation introduced right after that attack in 1995 that was eerily similar to The Patriot Act, but it was rejected in its initial form and was reintroduced in compromised terms. The 1993 attempt on the WTC had not been as successful as the FBI had hoped, so they needed something else. Interesting to note, national news sources never once reported the recovery of a second and third bomb at the site, but local news at the scene were reporting on it all day. In fact a statement from an anti-terrorist group sent by the White House talked openly about these other bombs on television. These interviews can bee seen in the documentary film "In Plane Sight" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722).
In 1998 the Project for a New American Century, whose members include such people as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, now president of the world bank, William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and a regular contributor to the Fox News Channel, John Bolton, now U.S. ambassador to the UN, I. Lewis Libby, and Dan Quayl, former VP of the U.S., called for president Clinton to attack Iraq. In 2000, the issued a 90 page document called "Rebuilding America's Defenses" in which they discussed post-cold war military defense strategy and said that outside a catalyzing event such as a "New Pearl Harbor", it would be difficult to reverse the trend of military cut-backs and justify this rebuilding. Enter 9/11...
On 9/11 they got their "New Pearl Harbor", their new post-cold-war, faceless enemy, and in President Bush, got their rubber stamp lackey they needed to conduct their all-out assault on civil liberties and increase in militarization. All of the current administration officials have ties with companies that are now raking in the government no-bid contracts. As the documentary, "Loose Change", exposes, the government was likely not only complicit in but had to be involved in the planning and execution.
They got their legislation they needed to expand their powers and bring us one step closer to what amounts to a Fourth Reich right here in America.
And what are American's doing while all this is sllloooooooowwwwly taking place??? They are changing the channel and enjoying the bread and circus.
No one wants to see it, and they won't until it's too late.
Now we've got RFID chips in nearly everything. We've got electronic voting machines, which will make elections even easier to steal than the past two presidential elections were. (Don't forget that 2000 was the first time in U.S. history that a president was essentially elected by the Supreme Court, because they not only stopped the recount, but failed to address the overwhelming statistical evidence that black votes were geting thrown out in Florida!)
We have the technology and legislation and military domination to accomplish what Hitler could have only dreamed of.
We have a Josef Goebbels-style media system that is controlled by the very corporations that build the bombs used in our wars. They hold the power to sway public opinion of every single issue we face, on what politicians get face time, and by extension, which ones get elected.
By the time they have to institute the next draft to conduct the coming war against Iran and Syria, they will have everything in place to track down those that do not heed the draft and the legislation will be in place to arrest those that protest against such a war - quarantining them in what amount to concentration camps (as we saw in New York during the 2004 GOP National Convention).
I don't care what the people on this website think about me personally. I don't care if you think I'm a conspiracy nut. If we can't drop our differences long enough to come together with one loud voice, the injustice and suffering that will result will be epic.
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Submitted by GDR (user info) at 2006-07-24 14:21:20 EDT (#)
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I'd gladly like to see people like you in these so called camps.
Submitted by the_lone_stranger (user info) at 2006-07-23 13:22:58 EDT (#)
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yup
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-07-23 12:25:31 EDT (#)
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Lunatic!
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-23 05:45:05 EDT (#)
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Wow Rob.
That some serious assuming on your part.
Because I vocally disagree and spar with someone on an internet website because of months of aggitative actions on both our parts, I must be themost hated and pitied man in the world.
You're such a fucking idiot it's unbelieveable.
If you wanted to turn this int a "loved" pissing party, I'm gonna assume that I'd beat you or Brad hands down in this great wide world.
Just a hunch.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-23 04:46:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-23 02:57:42 (#)
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You know what makes me happy sometimes?
Knowing that I've pissed off someone like Rob Berg or ETS to the point that the bile in their stomachs boils with malice towards me.
Why?
You got me, but it's interesting to watch.
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Why? http://www.ubersite.com/m/90798#2070884
Read that.
To paraphrase:
You are a cancerous fuck. Malice isn't a good word though... I pity you. You waste everyone's time and probably frustrate the fuck out of every person you meet. You are "that guy". You know, the guy who everyone hates, but they can never find a way to actually get rid of you because you are so god damn ignorant that even their obvious contempt for your very existence is lost on someone so completely socially retarded.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-23 03:20:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-23 02:57:42 EDT (#)
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You know what makes me happy sometimes?
Knowing that I've pissed off someone like Rob Berg or ETS to the point that the bile in their stomachs boils with malice towards me.
Why?
You got me, but it's interesting to watch.
Submitted by Happily_Agnostic (user info) at 2006-07-22 06:45:17 EDT (#)
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Try here --> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
specilizes in providing news on US dealings in the middle east and the situation in Israel
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-22 06:06:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 05:23:54 (#)
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Ok, Rob...
I appreciate you. Up front, I appreciate you. You are obviously someone I would enjoy many hours of intelligent conversation with, unlike...
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Thanks man. Fully with you dude. This place is funny. But I think its highly entertaining. The real progress as far as I am concerned is these little side bars where real discussions happen. Discussion that can be had without all the needless bullshit rhetoric. It's refreshing, I think.
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"Anyway, between me and you,..."
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Ok, seriously. Don't do that. You come off looking weird. It's precisely this kind of literature that allows the stupid people to marginalize everything you say.
And that sucks. Because most of what you say is super important. Just sayin'.
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"...there is going to come a time in the future when all our worst nightmares are going to come true about the world we live in."
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uh. Maybe. It's conjecture though, dude. I strongly believe in our capacity for good... We suck, but in oh so many ways we fucking rock.
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"You have to know this as much as I do. There are things about our current way of life that are irreversible."
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Yes I do. And I think we need to start changing the things we are doing that is causing that shit. That begins with conversations... like the one we are having. Exponentially larger, though.
Most people don't bother to do that anymore. That needs to change.
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As much as I'd give my LIFE to have it not be so, we know differently. Anything else would really be kidding ourselves.
Remember this post: http://www.ubersite.com/m/90197
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I look at that post as a great resource for discovering and exploring some interesting (horrific) theories in a hope that some people might comprehend how easy it would be to cause utter and complete chaos... and finding out a way to avert disaster... not just sit around and point fingers at it.
See- I'm just of the opinion that people don't want anarchy. We fear it. We should. (I certainly don't think that's a hard sell, either.)
What you have done there is offer some food for thought... target some pretty significant areas where we, the people, need to start asking some tough questions and demanding hard answers.
Wouldn't you agree?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 05:23:54 EDT (#)
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Ok, Rob...
I appreciate you. Up front, I appreciate you. You are obviously someone I would enjoy many hours of intelligent conversation with, unlike many of the fraternity idiots who frequent this site, like Jason there. When I say 'fraternity', I mean shit like Masons in his case - low level at that. You know, the greenhorns they still shoot jokes at and make feel special with any semblance of actual comraderie. Like throwing a bone to a hyperactive dog.
Anyway, between me and you, there is going to come a time in the future when all our worst nightmares are going to come true about the world we live in. You have to know this as much as I do. There are things about our current way of life that are irreversible. As much as I'd give my LIFE to have it not be so, we know differently. Anything else would really be kidding ourselves.
Remember this post: http://www.ubersite.com/m/90197
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 04:03:23 EDT (#)
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Rob: Listen man, don't even respond to jgreening. He's not worth the effort, dude. Trust me. He's brainwashed to believe he's doing right and there is no challenging that.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 03:58:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:43:37 (#)
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Ah, my mind must have skipped a few beats watching the JFK video. Interesting, though. I actually saw Loose Change a few days before you posted it. Very intriguing. History might not view our administration kindly.
Speaking of documentaries, An Inconvenient Truth is pretty important too.
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I haven't seen that yet, but I am already well aware of its importance. Our climate is about to come back and bite us in the ass in a big fucking way.
There is another very good program put out by Tom Brokaw recently on global warming. It was very good as well. I was impressed. And that takes a lot in that particular subject because of all the reading I've done. Most I find lacking, but this one actually taught me a few things.
You want another good video, look at my newest post. It brings out a lot of good information. Alex Jones is a lunatic, but FUCK I love tht guy! He sees it. That's rare.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-22 03:22:16 EDT (#)
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"People truly do become dumber after they you're your idiocy."
Should read "People truly do become dumber after they are exposed to your idiocy."
How delightfully ironic.
r.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-22 03:11:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:38:26 (#)
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"And Rob, you really don't get out a lot, do you, son?"
Really? You are going to launch with that?
Haha.
You know what? I've had it with you. Dude, you are a perfect example of all that is wrong with humanity.
Now that might seem like some trivial observation on par with "you are a giant shitstain" or "fucking worthless beefmitten"... or whatever droll literary equivalent your limited tunnel vision persona might come up with instead of anything remotely original... but I mean it.
People like you... suck.
You just pick and chose the kind of information you would like to take in- and furiously shit on ANYthing that falls outside of you preset, ignorant world view.
You deep throat the information you find appealing and blindly refute the shit you can't comprehend or find offensive that you can't be bothered to do any actual research to base your ignorant position on. You hubristic fucker.
At least your pre-programming is a lot more liberal than the rest of the stupid people who kill any hope of civilized discourse. Your right wing dumbbrothers are far more destructive and ignorant- though no less irritating.
At least most of them are passive. Too stupid or indifferent to mount any REAL objectionable vibe amongst friends and neighbors. "Who gives a shit if you vote for Bush if you can whip up a mean apple crisp?" I can hear them say... yet all the while passively enabling the fucked up agenda of some seriously manipulative assholes with a plan to insidiously spread its cancer all over your county... and all over the world.
But YOU?
You clutter every conversation you are in with your own special brand of retard. You pollute them with your ignorant bile. People truly do become dumber after they you're your idiocy. You should really just stop, take a good solid accounting of your life, and just TRY to come around to the sad fact that in real life...you are a lonely nerd whose time is almost utterly wasted being useless, boring, and irrelevant.
And then while you're in that enlightenment sweet-spot, you might want to make a conscious choice to be a little smarter. And apparently you also need help losing weight. Maybe put in a PO for a more friends. Whatever. It's your time, just do something better with it.
"Revolt?
Revolution?
Viva La Resistance?
All that jazz?
Yeah, wake me when it happens, because I'll want to catch a few pictures before it's stomped out."
See? How is this in any way helpful? This world is fucked up. Simple and plain. Your stupidity and casual dismissal of some pretty fucking MAJOR events going on right now in the world today is dumb.
We DO need a revolution. Perhaps not one with guns, and tanks... but one of spirit. One of Intellect. One of BALLS.
This stupid shit needs to stop. Jesus Christ seems conveniently absent, and GOD seems to be supporting some pretty fucking divergent representatives these days. So count that indiscriminate fucker out of the equation.... so guess what? Its just going to have to be the people. But not just in the United States... the world.
And even if you are a dense log of shit- you are still part of "we". So start being a better person.
"To create a revolution in America, you need a signifigant portion of the military to defect to your cause, and sorry pal, I just can not see that happening."
Or geez, I don't know. Maybe- and I'm just spit-balling here- a significant portion of the country could one day decide to stop being ignorant assholes, do some fucking research, stop focusing on their own selfish moral agenda and actually become aware of the political environment they have created and ENABLE with their stupidity to constructively discuss how to fix all of stupid shit their current government have (not) accomplished. Stupid fucks.
Ok. That's not going to happen. But it might happen gradually- depending on how many people we can hopefully get talking. Exploring. Researching. Voting.
"There is no combonation of militas that could stand up to a single branch of the military in a war on our own soil. There is no army, no military force in the WORLD that could."
No shit. And no one should. If people actually got along we wouldn't need armies.
They don't- so I'm fucking glad they're around. The US has a strong one. I am DELIGHTED.
I just wish they did better things with such a marvelous tool. They don't.
"I have to ask, though, you can not honestly believe that the people of America would revolt in such large numbers to overwhelm the government and military as it stands, do you? "
As mentioned, tool, I do not think it needs to be a military revolution. I do not promote Chaos- and its obvious the collective population of the United States can't agree on fucking much- and gee, isn't that funny? That's exactly the point that ETS is trying to make- he is just providing possible theories to explain why we are so fucking retarded. He roots around and finds all sorts of interesting items that >suggest< all sorts of things. Some of them are full of shit. How about you just dismiss those and focus on the majority of them that seem to suggest some pretty crooked shit is going down and we the people don't really seem care all that much.
"This countries population, minus the children, is probably around 200 million.
Think about that number.
200 million.
A two, and then eight zeros.
200,000,000
Do you think you could find 75,000,000 willing to revolt?
50,000,000?
1,000,000?
Do you? "
It starts with 1. I think I can find one other person.... you?
Your mom counts.
So what do you say greening? You think you have it in you to stop being such a distractive unhelpful cunt? Your call.
r.
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:54:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:43:37 (#)
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Speaking of documentaries, An Inconvenient Truth is pretty important too.
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Thank you for making mention of this!
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:48:00 EDT (#)
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And please. The US government did not hire somebody to dispute you on uber. It's actually very human to keep doing something that gets a reaction (try using the "what's more likely" test on this)
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:43:37 EDT (#)
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Ah, my mind must have skipped a few beats watching the JFK video. Interesting, though. I actually saw Loose Change a few days before you posted it. Very intriguing. History might not view our administration kindly.
Speaking of documentaries, An Inconvenient Truth is pretty important too.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:29:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 01:37:11 (#)
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ETS, it's refreshing that you pay attention to politics. Most people don't bother looking more deeply into things. One of the things I love about the Truman Show is that all of his suspicions were right. He just *knew* that things weren't adding up and he was finally able to escape to reality. But when you bring up things like the fact that Bush and Kerry are cousins, you lose some credibility. Even I'm a distant cousin of Bush (sad but true). I'm not saying you're being intentionally dishonest (I emphatically do say that about the mainstream media and the current administration), but I'm saying you might want to take a step back every now and then and look at the big picture.
I'm sure you've heard networking theory's assertion that we are all connected by 6 people. I suspect this is more or less true, and if it is, gosh, there are an awful lot of connections to be drawn between people in power. In politics, just like anywhere else, people will give each other a leg up here and there. That's how we work as social beings. So when you say so & so was an advisor in 5 different administrations, well, so what.
Right now, Bill Clinton is campaigning in Connecticut to help Lieberman win the Democratic primary against Ned Lamont (thank you, intraweb). If Clinton was really part of an all-powerful organization that controlled everything, he wouldn't need to make the effort. Am I getting off track here?
I'm not saying you're wrong about all of this, but honesty is on your side. You should discard any misleading and insignificant evidence, even if it supports what you believe to be true. And don't present your evidence in a misleading way.
You linked to a JFK video a while back that claimed a jury found so & so guilty of plotting to assasinate JFK, when in fact they found a periodical *not guilty* of libel/slander (I can never remember which is which) for making the assertion. Anyway, HUGE fucking difference. It's that kind of dishonesty that turns people off. And this is coming from someone who believes the official JFK story is bogus.
Well, that's my lecture for today.
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Do you realize the flurry of typing that produced this post? This was directly from my brain onto the page. With the exception of the links, I churned this out in about 15 minutes from random facts I'd accumulated.
As for the Bush and Kerry cousins thing, if you want more info here it is. Reports have Bush and Kerry being cousins in two different ways. One, they are 17th cousins. Admittedly very distant. But another claim is that they are, in fact, also 3rd cousins in another way. Without getting out the Bush and Kerry family albums, I can't confirm this, but I find it difficult to believe someone would bring this information out to be later refuted unless they were intentionally setting up a straw man.
Now, as for the JFK thing. The CIA agent who the film claims sat in jail and demanded millions for his silence from Nixon was found to be responsible for the death of JFK in a civil suit. In much the same way that the O.J. civil suit found him responsible for the death of his former wife and her lover and was ordered to pay millions in restitution to the families, that agent was found responsible. The filmmakers were making a statement by pointing out that fact, because he was never tried properly in a criminal court!
THAT was the point of that. They didn't try to mislead anyone. They said IN THE VIDEO that the suit was civil and that it wasn't a criminal court. But half of the POINT is that criminal charges weren't brought against this man regardless of his personal admissions of guilt.
There is an explanation for everything. I have NEVER in my life seen such criticism for movies as documentaries exposing public officials seem to get. It's crazy really.
Loose Change is probably the most important documentary of all time, but no one has even seen it.
I have not adopted it as my personal mission, so to speak, although the same people that killed him were the ones repsonsible for 9/11 generally-speaking.
The thing you gotta realize is that this is the very reason I link you all to these videos, because they do a better job of getting across my point in these things because visual aids are so indispensible and this particular media we have here of writing and arguing with text just doesn't cut it.
People impose their own meaning on things that are just not carried across well without cadence and body language of close personal discourse. The thing is, I could write a book about this and either no one would read it, or they would never get out of their minds that I had written it and everything would be ridiculed. I could write it as I felt it and it would be taken as sensationalism. If I watered it down and softened it, it wouldn't be real. I would be lying to you by disguising it as mere entertainment, when this is serious and this is real.
I appreciate that you look into these things too, but I don't think you quite appreciate how hard it is to stand in the middle of this stone-throwing contest virtually alone and try to relate these things to people. It's not easy, particularly when you've got morons like Wardy, who wants to make a joke out of everything and Indoninja, who doubletalks and doublethinks and tries to distract people away from the point almost as if he IS hired by the fucking government to do so. As ridiculous as I know that is, there are few other ways to explain his tactics of divide and distract.
Anyway, just take the time to watch some of these videos and consider their content and how it interconnects.
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-07-22 02:06:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Defect (user info) at 2006-07-22 01:56:54 (#)
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I'll admit it, I didn't read anything past the 60 year plot to what the fuck ever..
Honestly ets, do you think that our governmont, our goddamn govermont, is competent enough to pull that off? Think about it. According to you, they fucked up 9/11 bad enough to let you and others that they crashed the plane. The CIA couldn't suppress information on LSD testing, and Nixon couldn't even hide a half-assed break-in.
You think that THAT governm(o)nt could hold a plot this huge and global, for 60 years. Honestly.
But, I do agree with you on some points, so I won't negative 2 die this.
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You called the Bush administration on it's inability to effectively govern - and no one will argue that.
But what you FAIL to realize is there is much more going on than what is presented to the public eye.
It would be more accurate to say the American government is lacking the it's "public relations" skills; perhaps the word the most suited descriptive word is "sloppy"
This says nothing of what goes on behind closed doors.
Submitted by Defect (user info) at 2006-07-22 01:56:54 EDT (#)
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I'll admit it, I didn't read anything past the 60 year plot to what the fuck ever..
Honestly ets, do you think that our governmont, our goddamn govermont, is competent enough to pull that off? Think about it. According to you, they fucked up 9/11 bad enough to let you and others that they crashed the plane. The CIA couldn't suppress information on LSD testing, and Nixon couldn't even hide a half-assed break-in.
You think that THAT governm(o)nt could hold a plot this huge and global, for 60 years. Honestly.
But, I do agree with you on some points, so I won't negative 2 die this.
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-22 01:37:11 EDT (#)
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ETS, it's refreshing that you pay attention to politics. Most people don't bother looking more deeply into things. One of the things I love about the Truman Show is that all of his suspicions were right. He just *knew* that things weren't adding up and he was finally able to escape to reality. But when you bring up things like the fact that Bush and Kerry are cousins, you lose some credibility. Even I'm a distant cousin of Bush (sad but true). I'm not saying you're being intentionally dishonest (I emphatically do say that about the mainstream media and the current administration), but I'm saying you might want to take a step back every now and then and look at the big picture.
I'm sure you've heard networking theory's assertion that we are all connected by 6 people. I suspect this is more or less true, and if it is, gosh, there are an awful lot of connections to be drawn between people in power. In politics, just like anywhere else, people will give each other a leg up here and there. That's how we work as social beings. So when you say so & so was an advisor in 5 different administrations, well, so what.
Right now, Bill Clinton is campaigning in Connecticut to help Lieberman win the Democratic primary against Ned Lamont (thank you, intraweb). If Clinton was really part of an all-powerful organization that controlled everything, he wouldn't need to make the effort. Am I getting off track here?
I'm not saying you're wrong about all of this, but honesty is on your side. You should discard any misleading and insignificant evidence, even if it supports what you believe to be true. And don't present your evidence in a misleading way.
You linked to a JFK video a while back that claimed a jury found so & so guilty of plotting to assasinate JFK, when in fact they found a periodical *not guilty* of libel/slander (I can never remember which is which) for making the assertion. Anyway, HUGE fucking difference. It's that kind of dishonesty that turns people off. And this is coming from someone who believes the official JFK story is bogus.
Well, that's my lecture for today.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-22 01:05:34 EDT (#)
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(300+ million)
For the record.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:38:26 EDT (#)
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And Rob, you really don't get out a lot, do you, son?
Revolt?
Revolution?
Viva La Resistance?
All that jazz?
Yeah, wake me when it happens, because I'll want to catch a few pictures before it's stomped out.
To create a revolution in America, you need a signifigant portion of the military to defect to your cause, and sorry pal, I just can not see that happening. There is no combonation of militas that could stand up to a single branch of the military in a war on our own soil. There is no army, no military force in the WORLD that could.
I have to ask, though, you can not honestly believe that the people of America would revolt in such large numbers to overwhelm the government and military as it stands, do you?
This countries population, minus the children, is probably around 200 million.
Think about that number.
200 million.
A two, and then eight zeros.
200,000,000
Do you think you could find 75,000,000 willing to revolt?
50,000,000?
1,000,000?
Do you?
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:33:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Please tell me you're joking.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:27:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:17:46 (#)
Ranking: 0
Wow. I was prompting a serious response, with no malice intended towards your post.
Way to totally fuck that up, and come off crazy, too, you nutty bastard.
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BAH.
Holding back contructive participation out of spite is stupid. If nothing else PLEASE have respect for the discourse... and all of us campers who enjoy the dialogue. (This includes intelligently presented divergent opinion!)
I would certainly appreciate it... he might too, once he wipes off the foam.
What are you going to say? C'mon. Don't be a boob... please?
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:25:26 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
It's really not all of Uber.
Just ETS, an alter of his, and a few people who lean a little to far into the "Conspiracy Void" and never come back, who think he actually knows what he's talking about.
You have to understand, Brad Linzy believes that he has "deeply and independently" researched everything he talks about, when all his "independent" research is basically reading that which other, more well funded, conspiracy buffs have written, and taking it as gospel. Yet he will totally ignore the blindingly massive amount of proof given him that show his "sources" are more full of hot air than the Hindenberg.
Ya see, Brad Linzy, along with almost all other conspiracy theorists, have this void in their lives. They feel that there is no way that their lives, along with so many others, could be as bad as they are without outside interference.
They think that they could get the world's shit together in a "better society" if it were not for some menacing evil that was holding back the utopia that every single human being is striving for. They so strongly believe in their own abilities to lead ideas of change, that they look at the world through glasses that do not tint the world in rose, but in black.
They see poverty, and won't believe that many of the people living in squalor are also responsible for their personal situations.
The homeless man did not choose to become an alcoholic or a drug addict.
The prostitute does not give her body to pay for a fix.
They see a woman living in the projects, living on welfare, leaving her 14-year old daughter to take care of the other 5 kids after school so she can still "live her life", and the conspiracy theorists cry that the government is keeping the poor down with opprseive minimum wage laws and poorly funded assistance programs. What they don't see is a woman who has 6 kids with 4 different men, who could work any number of jobs, but won't because she feels that a job where you actually have to work is beneath her.
They believe that any major tragedy brought against our nation is not because there are people who hate us simply for living in the country that has dominated the world stage for 60 years and carries as it's deepest level many distinct ideological differences. They believe those tragedies are brought down upon us by a shadow government behind the government made up of secret societies and billionaire power brokers who wish to have more power, more money, more everything, and are willing to invest millions upon millions on plots and schemes that are only plausable if hundreds of tenuiously stretched threads are tied together in one shaking knot, waiting to unravel when a single fiber is touched.
Conspiracy theorists like Brad Linzy are people who can not and will not believe that the loss of an individuals power over his macroscopic surroundings is a product of civilization itself.
What these people have done to themselves isn't anything strange or different or odd in any way. Everyone harbors the feelings they do, simply on smaller levels.
I see higher milk prices in the store, and I think that it's because of rising costs to feed the cattle and to transport the milk.
Brad sees higher milk prices in the store, and he thinks that the government is price fixing a neccisary commodity to bleed the money from the populace.
Folks like Brad Linzy, who believe in all these conspiracies, simply can not come to grips with a world that can and does operate in a way they do not find pleasing.
They think that they are always right and that they will always be right.
No matter how strong the evidence that is brought to bear against their position.
No matter how flimsy their own defensive evidence proves to be.
And they can not believe that anyone who holds an opposing position came to that position of their own free will.
That person must have been coerced.
Blinded.
Led astray.
People like Brad linzy see themselves as the new shepards of humanity.
They believe that their anger, distrust, hatred and malice will actually win over the masses, and that they will one day be seen as visionaries by the populace that they have throw into revolt.
This is where the ego comes in.
When the people stop listening to the rhetoric and the bile and the misinformed detritus, the conspiracy theorist doesn't slink away and rebuld his argument. He gets louder, thinking that the people must be deafened to his words, not understanding that they simply have stopped caring.
Brad Linzy has cried out with such a loud voice and such a harsh tone about the wolves attacking and the sky falling for so long, no one will listen anymore. And one day, when the wolves really *do* attack... And when the sky really *does* fall...
No one will listen.
No one will care.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:19:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
"If we can't drop our differences long enough to come together with one loud voice, the injustice and suffering that will result will be epic."
Revolution Baby!
I'm in. SO in.
Wonderfully written.
As a side note, I completely retract my previous statements alluding to the intellectual merit of jgreening. Having the unfortunate luck to wade through his increasingly mindless bullshit I now believe him to be a hopeless, loudmouth, ass-sucking, unoriginal pain-in-the-fucking-ass idiot.
My bad.
You?
I still think yer an arrogant, condescending jackass who tends to even alienate members of your own choir with your smug platitudes and you frantic chicken- little-sky-is-falling routine.
Honestly though? I dig that about you. You are brilliant and SO needed in this fucked up debacle of a world.
Keep it up. Please.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:18:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Oh, and I forgot.
-2DIE asshole.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:17:46 EDT (#)
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Wow. I was prompting a serious response, with no malice intended towards your post.
Way to totally fuck that up, and come off crazy, too, you nutty bastard.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:14:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:02:01 (#)
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no, i agree, you dont give a fuck. you just like to pretend that you do.
keep writing them letters. youll make a change with 'em one day, for sure.
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No, I give a fuck about a lot of things, just not about you and your jealousy kick, whatever the fuck that's about.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:13:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:34:38 (#)
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I believe in America. But that's not to say I don't realize the government does some fucked up stuff. In fact, I realize it does a lot of fucked up stuff.
But that's ok. Cause the government's not America. The cliche thing is, it's the people. Too many people forget that, especially fundamentalist terrorists. They see what our government does, and plan a jihad on America.
But America didn't do anything, the government did. Some might argue that's the problem, that the common man does nothing nowadays. But short of mass, ballpark-size marches, there's really nothing to be done. Petitions, letters, boycotts, random web denouncings...they're just not effective.
The only thing that makes any difference is the voting. But as we've seen, the corrupt government already in place has a hand in that (Florida. That shit really happened.) So in order to fix things, we need to vote responsibly, which means using intelligence, which frankly isn't important anymore. We've reached an age of society where we've hand-crafted an easy life out of machines, and as long as we retain the basic knowledge to maintain them, we don't need to progress. Which is sad, really.
In any case, an Orwellian future where America rules the world simply isn't going to happen.
A) We know in a head-to-head battle with China, we'd lose.
B) Nobody's smart enough to pull that one off. Hitler was the closest we've seen, but he just wasn't enough.
C) America can barely handle its own territories, you really think it could handle more?
C)
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You don't fucking get it. Surprise.
Having a One World Government doesn't mean a world without conflict. On the contrary... It's actually MORE Orwellian if they don't take over the whole world. They have to have an Eastasia and a Eurasia to keep us scared, don't they? There's nothing in China we want or need except their laborers. As long as we have control of the oil, it's all good as far as these people are concerned. There's nothing to gain from a true one world government - nothing to gain from peace.
World Peace = End of Power
The LAST thing these people want is world peace.
This also isn't about fighting the REAL terrorists out there, we've been doing that for ages. The problem is, these "terrorists" of which you speak had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11! For the last fucking time, 9/11 was a goddamn inside job.
If you can't watch a simple video that shows the towers exploding violently as they come down, then you are a fucking idiot!
If you can't look at the PLETHORA of other evidence pointing to the motives and the means by which people in our own government carried out the attacks, then you are a fucking idiot!
I'm sorry, but it's down to that. If you still believe in the slightest that this shit is about middle-eastern terrorism, then YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!
I don't know how else to say it.
By invading Iraq under the banner of preventing terrorism and looking for WMDs, our leaders are CREATING MORE HATRED FOR AMERICA! They're CREATING MORE "TERRORISTS"!
What about that do you NOT fucking understand, Corky?
Look at the pictures of the fathers holding their dead children, wailing in the streets in absolute horror. Look at their faces as they realize their children are gone and it's because of US! US!
Look at them and tell me anyone is responsible for that but us. I don't give a fuck what rhetoric you pull out, repeating Karl Rove, that says Saddam was even worse, it's simply not true. As a dictator, Saddam was a lame fucking duck. Before we invaded, outside the Kurdish incident - that the past Bush administration KNEW ABOUT IN ADVANCE AND SAID OR DID NOTHING TO STOP - there was not murder and riot in the streets of Iraq. Not like there is now...
And now we're building 14 military bases in the country so we can stay forever. Or until the oil runs out.
Why can't you see it? What the hell is the matter with you? Honestly, how fucking stupid are you? Call me condescending, I don't give a fuck. If you STILL don't get it, then I AM CONDESCENDING, because you're a goddamn moron, son. A fucking moron.
Don't be a moron. Wake up now before it's too fucking late, goddammit.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-07-22 00:02:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
no, i agree, you dont give a fuck. you just like to pretend that you do.
keep writing them letters. youll make a change with 'em one day, for sure.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 23:47:49 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:13:02 (#)
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I got a response from this asshole, but I can't be bothered reading it and figuring out what the fuck he's saying. Whatever I skimmed reeks of bullshit. Can someone translate for me and tell me if it's good or bad, so I can send him some dog shit in the mail? (dramatizationmaynothavehappenedandneverwillhappen)
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I could scan a few actual letters sent back by Richard Luger...aka The Dick...but I'll spare you.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 23:46:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:41:04 (#)
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"Thank you. I hope they, unlike you, actually take heed of what I'm saying."
ok, ets, ill say it ONE MORE TIME, you seem to be a little slow...
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Let me spell it out for YOU one more time...
I. Don't. Give. A. Fuck.
Submitted by hoooot (user info) at 2006-07-21 23:28:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
let's rename uber the "badmouth america" site.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:41:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"Thank you. I hope they, unlike you, actually take heed of what I'm saying."
ok, ets, ill say it ONE MORE TIME, you seem to be a little slow...
the above quote typifies your underlying problem. you seem to think youre some lone voice that is screaming a message to an ignorant people who cant see what you see.
get over yourself. everyone already thinks roughly along these lines (jsut with way less 'crazy' attached), they just dont care. see, like you, everyone is aware of the sheer difficulty involved in actually doing something to alter this seemingly inevitable course of action that will see humanity making the same damn mistake again. and again like you, none of us can be fucked going to that sheer, most likely futile effort.
however, unlike you, the rest of us arent deluded enough to think that writing some histrionic pieces of shit on the internet constitutes 'doing something'. the rest of of dont have some sad little messianic complex and think that we are some kind of spiritual and philosophical paragon.
as i said above, get over yourself, you are not telling anyone anything new. or alternatively, again, you could shut your yesterdays-news mouth and go and actually ####!!!!***DO***!!!!#### (have i drawn enough attention to the operative word?) something.
and no, writing bitter-old-man letters to congressmen, or giving your measly tax dollars to charity (a completely pointless and misguided gesture, by the way), does NOT count as DOING something.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:34:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I believe in America. But that's not to say I don't realize the government does some fucked up stuff. In fact, I realize it does a lot of fucked up stuff.
But that's ok. Cause the government's not America. The cliche thing is, it's the people. Too many people forget that, especially fundamentalist terrorists. They see what our government does, and plan a jihad on America.
But America didn't do anything, the government did. Some might argue that's the problem, that the common man does nothing nowadays. But short of mass, ballpark-size marches, there's really nothing to be done. Petitions, letters, boycotts, random web denouncings...they're just not effective.
The only thing that makes any difference is the voting. But as we've seen, the corrupt government already in place has a hand in that (Florida. That shit really happened.) So in order to fix things, we need to vote responsibly, which means using intelligence, which frankly isn't important anymore. We've reached an age of society where we've hand-crafted an easy life out of machines, and as long as we retain the basic knowledge to maintain them, we don't need to progress. Which is sad, really.
In any case, an Orwellian future where America rules the world simply isn't going to happen.
A) We know in a head-to-head battle with China, we'd lose.
B) Nobody's smart enough to pull that one off. Hitler was the closest we've seen, but he just wasn't enough.
C) America can barely handle its own territories, you really think it could handle more?
C)
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-07-21 22:13:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I got a response from this asshole, but I can't be bothered reading it and figuring out what the fuck he's saying. Whatever I skimmed reeks of bullshit. Can someone translate for me and tell me if it's good or bad, so I can send him some dog shit in the mail? (dramatizationmaynothavehappenedandneverwillhappen)
From: Congressman Gary L. Ackerman <ny05ima.pub.at.mail.house.gov> Mailed-By: mail.house.gov
To: methodxxx.at.gmail.com
Date: Jul 21, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: Your recent message
July 21, 2006
George Papadopoulos
Dear George:
Thank you for contacting me to voice your support for net
neutrality and to express your concerns with the Communications
Opportunity, Promotion and Enhancement (COPE) Act of 2006. I
appreciate the opportunity to share my thoughts with you on these
important issues.
As you may know, the COPE Act, which passed the House
on June 8, 2006, would create a new, national cable/video
franchising option for cable operators. This franchising option
would allow cable providers to introduce premium rates and
packages nationwide, which would expand competition for cable
services, ultimately resulting in lower cable bills. While, initially,
there was concern that cable providers would attempt to bypass
certain communities, the legislation passed by the House contains
strict provisions against so-called "redlining," or denying or
increasing the cost of cable service to low-income or heavily
minority-populated communities.
The concept of net neutrality, though it sounds attractive,
would necessitate regulating the internet by prohibiting any
Internet Service Provider (ISP) from charging higher rates for
higher levels of bandwidth use. A useful way to consider the issue
is to think of the internet as a shopping mall: the ISPs are like the
mall owners, large, commercial websites are like tenants and
internet users are like consumers browsing the shops. In order to
expand the mall and offer new services (in this analogy, telehealth
technologies, streaming full-length movies and technologies that
are currently unfathomable), the mall owners would need to charge
higher rent for bigger shops, who will end up benefiting the most
from the expanded mall (for example, you wouldn't expect the
owners of Queens Center to charge Macy's the same rent as a
small hair and nail salon.) If ISPs were to continue to charge
everyone equally, the typical consumer would wind up paying
disproportionately to finance the growth of the internet and the
expansion of the web's bandwidth.
As a strong supporter of innovation and consumer rights, I
voted in favor of the COPE Act and against the net neutrality
amendment. I believe that the bill, as passed, achieves a balance
by finally bringing Americans real cable choice, while also
providing for strict penalties for cable providers that discriminate
against low-income communities. Additionally, the American
consumer will see a much greater benefit from increased
bandwidth and innovation, and lower prices under the COPE Act
than under a so-called "net neutral" outcome.
Once again, I thank you for contacting me to express your
concerns. Of course, if I can be of any further assistance to you,
please do not hesitate to contact me.
Submitted by Serious_Melvin (user info) at 2006-07-21 21:50:29 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
http://www.yourethemannowdog.com/
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-07-21 21:46:27 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
do you think it's possible that I could fortify my own land enough to create my own compound and be left alone when chaos comes?
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-21 21:28:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
And I forgot this one:
http://www.world-newspapers.com/
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-21 21:00:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Wait a sec, Brad...
You're PROUD that the people of America will be mocking you into the ground?
Man, you ARE an attention whore.
Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:55:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
On 9/11 they got their "New Pearl Harbor", their new post-cold-war, faceless enemy, and in President Bush, got their rubber stamp lackey they needed to conduct their all-out assault on civil liberties and increase in militarization. All of the current administration officials have ties with companies that are now raking in the government no-bid contracts. As the documentary, "Loose Change", exposes, the government was likely not only complicit in but had to be involved in the planning and execution.
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: ) thank you.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:44:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I'm not the only C-SPAN nut! Watch these citizens RIP this 9/11 Commissioner apart:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2603940546050731997&q=C-SPAN+9%2F11
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:31:37 EDT (#)
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Someone PLEASE tape it and use it to ridicule me!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:31:05 EDT (#)
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OH!
If you guys want to see ETS make a fool of himself on television in front of millions of people, tune in to C-SPAN (NOT C-SPAN 2) tonight at 10:50 PM EST, (9:50 Central), and watch Condoleeza Rice's speech, then stick around to the end and hear the callers.
You'll get to hear me rant about 9/11 and stuff on the air!
Yes, I am a crazy crazy man. :P
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:22:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:05:36 (#)
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oh, and wheres my mothafockin Iranian Oil Bourse??? WHERE IS IT SHOW SHOW SHOW ME
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Well, obviously, they're gonna have a hard time setting it up what with all the fingers pointing in their direction these days.
This only backs up my claim, that western governments are trying to slander Iran and move public opinion to their own ends, one of which is the oil bourse.
They're trying to squelch it, but according to the latest news (note: NOT CNN or BBC news), the bourse is still going forward:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_16543.shtml
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/65/5405/2006-06-21.asp?wid=65&nid=5405
http://www.fin24.co.za/articles/companies/display_article.aspx?Nav=ns&lvl2=comp&ArticleID=1518-1783_1963115
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/32156
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_16643.shtml
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:11:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:14:38 (#)
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Look at all the pundits on TV right now calling this the start of WWIII!
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You don't believe those teevee idiots any more than I do Brad, they're just trying to sell commericials.
Hey, I like to read the Weekly World News - did you see where they said Dick Chey was a robot? I KNEW IT.
One last thing - you think things are bad now? Wait until Hilary Clinton gets elected in 2008...THEN you are going to see the shit hit the fan.
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I'm not insinuating that you or anyone else on this particular website are so stupid as to believe these guys, (although that's highly debatable). This has nothing to do with sensationalism. It takes a little bit of common sense and personal research to distinguish sensationalism from reasonable concern.
I'm not trying to scare people here. I'm trying to raise awareness because if you read the legislation that's been passed in the last ten years and truly study the events under which it's happened, you'll see where this is headed.
I agree with you about Hilary Clinton. She's just another one of 'them' as far as I'm concerned. The Clintons are just as guilty in all this as the neo-cons. Hilary is complicit enough in what they're doing so as to raise serious questions about her credibility and the things she does speak out against are for purely political purposes. The reason is because the same people that pulled their strings have pulled the strings of ALL the administrations of the past 50 or so years.
But you'd never know the connections unless you dig deeper than what they show you on CNN or BBC or FOX NEWS.
For instance, why was David Gergen, a member and regular attendee of The Bohemian Grove, a presidential advisor for all the administrations of Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton?
Why were presidents Nixon, Carter, Bush I & II, and Reagan at these meetings with all these wealthy elite?
Why were BOTH candidates in 2004 members of Yale's Skull and Bones? And why were they cousins? This was even brought up by Tim Russert of "Meet the Press" to both candidates shortly before the 2004 election, but both refused to talk about it.
Why was Bill Clinton at the Bilderberg Group's meeting in 1991, shortly before he ran for president?
Why was Tony Blair attending the same Bilderberg meetings before he became PM?
Look at the names of the people who are members of these organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations, The Bilderberg Group, and the Trilateral Commission... I mean REALLY look into it! See how many of them are international bankers, military suppliers, politicians, and media moguls.
Why are all these people attending the same meetings if they are not trying to coordinate something? That's the whole REASON to have such meetings, is it not? To coordinate and get on the same page?
Look man, I know it's easy to brush me off as a lunatic, trust me, I know very well how crazy I must sound to most people...but until you look into these things and see how they're all interconnected with the eventual goal of bringing about World Government, you will be talking out your ass in response to me, because you'll have no earthly idea what you're talking about.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:05:36 EDT (#)
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oh, and wheres my mothafockin Iranian Oil Bourse??? WHERE IS IT SHOW SHOW SHOW ME
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-21 20:00:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Lord on high.
It's every single conspiracy theory Brad has ever invested his time in "independently investigating" all wrapped up into one nice little Super-Conspiracy.
I'm guessing you have stock in Reynolds Aluminum Foil, right?
Oh, and I almost forgot...
STILL WAITING ON THE EVIDENCE YOU UNCOVERED IN YOUR INDEPENDEDNT INVESTIGATION OF THE 9-11 ATTACKS, MISTER BRAD LINZY."
Yeah, that about sums it up...
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:51:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:08:22 (#)
Ranking: 0
Filthyassistant and margainwalker:
You'll like this website: http://www.worldlinktv.org/
Anyone who has braodband internet and like to stay informed on current events that the mainstream media will NEVER show you, you should bookmark that site.
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Cool. A few other interesting sites you may or may not have seen:
http://medialens.org/index.php
http://watchingamerica.com/index.shtml#newssources
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/
http://wwitv.com/
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/default.asp?page=7
http://pewresearch.org/social/pack.php?PackID=7
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml
http://www.fair.org/index.php
http://www.projectcensored.org/censored_2006/index.htm
That'll do for now.
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:24:49 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I find myself beginning to sympathise more and more with the less ludicrous elements of your arguments.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:16:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
JohnnyX.
What a complete douche.
There's no other way of describing it.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:14:38 EDT (#)
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Look at all the pundits on TV right now calling this the start of WWIII!
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You don't believe those teevee idiots any more than I do Brad, they're just trying to sell commericials.
Hey, I like to read the Weekly World News - did you see where they said Dick Chey was a robot? I KNEW IT.
One last thing - you think things are bad now? Wait until Hilary Clinton gets elected in 2008...THEN you are going to see the shit hit the fan.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:11:41 EDT (#)
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Also, anyone who's interested in passing some time this evening or this weekend, Alex Jones has a new video called "Terror Storm" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947). I haven't seen it yet, but he's usually pretty good at raising these sorts of concerns.
Granted, he can be a little 'out there' at times, even for a nutter like me, but the core of his arguments have merit and demand attention.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:08:22 EDT (#)
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Filthyassistant and margainwalker:
You'll like this website: http://www.worldlinktv.org/
Anyone who has braodband internet and like to stay informed on current events that the mainstream media will NEVER show you, you should bookmark that site.
At the bottom of the page are links to video interviews and foreign news sources you can't get anywhere else. The foreign news sources come from inside such countries as Israel and Lebanon, Iran and Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. MOSAIC: World News From the Middle East (http://www.worldlinktv.org/mosaic/index.php3) is excellent, showing all sides of the conflicts and translated into English for those of us too lazy to learn Farsi, Arabic, and Hebrew.
DemocracyNow! (http://www.democracynow.org/) allows you to listen to the daily program in MP3 form watch in streaming video. Lots of stories they cover are swept under the rug by the major news media. They expose important issues that demand our attention but are consistently ignored.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-21 19:02:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
"If we can't drop our differences long enough to come together with one loud voice, the injustice and suffering that will result will be epic."
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:52:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:36:56 (#)
Ranking: 2
I changed my mind, I love this post - it's the Bradley Linzy Sampler Platter!
Every whack-job theory that ETS has, is neatly dim-summed in this delicious mini-smorgasbord!
I am bookmarking this, so that the next time anybody asks what ETS is all about, I'll send them here!
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Thank you. I hope they, unlike you, actually take heed of what I'm saying.
Put it this way...if you went back to 1933 Germany, what would it look like? Remember, Hitler didn't do what he did illegally. He did what he did with a multi-faceted approach involving legislation, propaganda, and mock attacks against Germany herself. He was successful in painting an entire group of people with a demon-colored brush and used those passions to wage world war.
Look at all the pundits on TV right now calling this the start of WWIII! Even high profile people like Newt Gengrich are calling this the start of WWIII. They are even trying to connect this back to the 1979 attack on the Iranian embassy even!
This is wholesale smear campaign we are seeing. It echoes precisely what Hitler was doing in the 1930s.
Ok...let's back up. Please, anyone who is reading this, watch some of the videos in this post and research their claims for yourselves. Then look up a timeline of Hitler's rise to power and ask yourselves why these things appear so similar.
Don't wait until it's too late to wake up. Don't wait until you're forced to flee your homes or hide from the police, or eat tiny rations to survive.
I value liberty as I value the air I breathe, and all I'm asking is that you take a simple look at these people who I think are trying to destroy that liberty. I don't want it to go any further down this road to ruin. We have to right this sinking ship, or at least deploy the fucking lifeboats.
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:51:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
A MESSAGE TO ALL THAT QUESTION WHAT THIS MAN SAYS:
I'm sorry you're ill-found "Patriotism" makes you feel threatened these words, and by those who speak similarly. You're anger is indicative of the effectiveness of mass media.
There seems to be a long running trend on the Site - People attack ETS because they think he's trying to belittle them, or assume a condescending, "holier-than-thou" role; he questions the honor of the ever-beloved USA.
A country that, in reality, has rendered it's inhabitants unable to fully capitalize on their senses....has watered down human nature.
The above is NOT radical rhetoric. It's not leftist, bleeding heart communist bull shit.
It is a warning. It's a wake up call.
Mr. George Bush is going to ensure we all witness the best damn display of pyrotechnics ever.
"And the Rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air...."
You and Me.
All in the name of Oil.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:36:56 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I changed my mind, I love this post - it's the Bradley Linzy Sampler Platter!
Every whack-job theory that ETS has, is neatly dim-summed in this delicious mini-smorgasbord!
I am bookmarking this, so that the next time anybody asks what ETS is all about, I'll send them here!
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:33:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
and god forbid you should pass up yet another chance to heatwhore yourself, Bradley.
I will say to your credit, you are much more intelligent in getting your points across then that dipshit is.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2006-07-21 18:32:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
jews did wtc