Christians - A Danger to society (1378 hits)
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Submitted by Fabit (View user info) at 2006-07-26 06:55:45 EDT
I recently had the pleasure of attending my friends BBQ in the South Eastern region of the United Kingdom. It was an awesome party and lots of people got rather drunk and fell over etc. A good time was had by all. Surely the definition of a successful BBQ?
Midway through the evening I was introduced to a girl named Mel. She was a lovely girl - perhaps a tad too much facial hair - but lovely nonetheless. During conversation it became apparent that Mel is indeed a born again Baptist Christian.
Suddenly the facial hair became self explanatory, for haven't the most ardent followers of Christ been blessed with luxuriant beards? Any reader of "The Ladybird Children's Bible for children who are young" will have noticed the multitude of beards of, what can only be described as, "Biblical Proportions".
So, whilst talking to Mel she asked me what my Religious leaning was, and I answered Pagan. (pagan is a general term, and not quite true, but nothing winds a Christian up as much as a virgin burner)
Mel became very agitated and started preaching to me about paganism being the Devils own worship etc etc. And so we had a nice long chat about Christianity vs Paganism and I cleared a few things up for the girl. I have a listed a few here for people to read, so maybe they won't judge pagans so harshly next time a Christian minister is damning us all to an eternal stay in the universes biggest sauna.
1. The five pointed star, pentacle, pentagram.
The pentacle is accused (wrongly) by Christianity the world over to be the symbol of the Devil. Because it is widely used by Pagans of all sorts it is fairly important that I tell you what it really means. The pentacle is the Pagan Symbol for "Woman". Pagans believe that women are perfect for many reasons - the main one being that women can create life. When the Christians came to England they told the indigenous pagans that it meant the devil because Christians believe that women created evil (look up Original sin in your bible. This was the first of many pagan symbols to be altered so Christianity could slide in without to much pain to the local people.
2. Sacrifice.
Pagans DO NOT sacrifice people or animals in anyway shape or form. Ever.(The wicker man was a work of fiction folks - get over it) A sacrifice is giving something back to the earth in thanks for the food and life it gives us every day, week and year.
Although Christianity has called us barbaric for years we do not kill people for any reason. The Christians an sacrifice though - I'd like to draw your attention to a certain prophet on a certain mountain with his eldest son and a sharp knife. Hmmm who's barbaric now? We should all be lucky "God" had the "grace" to stop him at the last minute eh?
3. Alters
Alters in Churches were not found until Christianity fully invaded western Europe where locals used an alter for rites and sacrifices already. Another way Christianity made the transition easier to bear for the indigenous people it converted.
4. Christenings
The act of wetting a new born's head has been recorded as a Celtic pagan rite long before Christianity was on the scene. It was seen as cleansing the baby after a violent birth. Water holds a lot respect in the pagan world and is seen to be healing in many ways and forms.
Those were our main arguing points that night and i feel i gave good reasoned arguments that she couldn't contest.
For those few who have met me - yes i did have my smug face on.
For those who haven't met me - imagine a smug person being smug. No it's not pretty.
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-28 03:42:31 EDT (#)
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everything jewish is christian by definition.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-07-27 14:37:47 EDT (#)
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the pentacle and the pentagram version of a five pointed star are not symbols of the devil.
however the inverted one in christian terms is. so depending on who you ask you're both right. in christian contexts is it. just like the sigel (i think) that later became a swastika when reversed is still a nazi thing even though it's also like a rune in some places and symbol of peace or whatever in india. depends who you ask, doesn't mean either's wrong.
the sacrifice of abraham (which didn't go through btw) is technically jewish not christian.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-07-27 14:23:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2006-07-27 14:22:12 EDT (#)
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The keys to ubersuccess
Trash Christians
Kiss Barts ass
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2006-07-27 13:23:02 EDT (#)
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I believe whatever indoninja says.
I mean opinions and facts from the internet?
Who would disagree with that?!
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-27 08:29:27 EDT (#)
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No human sacrifice?
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060724/NEWS0104/607240355/1008/NEWS01
And before you blow a gasket and go off on christians who bomb abortion clinics I was just pointing out that every religion has whackos.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-27 07:36:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-27 06:47:49 (#)
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Boring boring
1. Never described ANY of my practice
2. Never said MY practice which i didn't describe is better than anyone elses
3. Whoever said norse is most likely to be acurate - if you had read closer you would have seen that i mentioned i lean towards odinism
4. I did generalise a bit about thing we hear from the Christian community because i didn't have the time to discuss the individual beliefs of every christian person - although i have met them ALL
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You didn't describe your practices but you mentioned celtic practices several times, and mentioned they predated christian ones. Please explain to me how you know exactly how pagans practiced 2 thousand years ago? As far as christening have you ever hear of John the Baptist?
You didn't say they were better you just pointed out a bunch of practices you (half erroneously) think your religion invented and christianity stole.
In the post you mention celtic tradition only. I missed when you mentioned it in the replies.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-07-27 07:32:09 EDT (#)
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I wanna be a hippie
But I forgot how to love
It's hard to be a garbage man
When a sailor stole my glove
I wanna be reckless
But I'm feeling so uptight
Put your mama in a headlock baby
And do it right
Who's got the crack
Who's got the crack
Who's got the crack
Who's got the crack
Who's got the crack
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-27 07:05:55 EDT (#)
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I'm more of a "whateverist"
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-27 07:05:33 EDT (#)
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he didn't say wiccan either.
Submitted by MisterDevious (user info) at 2006-07-27 07:00:50 EDT (#)
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rock on, blessed be, merry meet, merry part, and merry meet again!
harm nun (sorry, I mean "none")
MrDVS
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-27 06:47:49 EDT (#)
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Boring boring
1. Never described ANY of my practice
2. Never said MY practice which i didn't describe is better than anyone elses
3. Whoever said norse is most likely to be acurate - if you had read closer you would have seen that i mentioned i lean towards odinism
4. I did generalise a bit about thing we hear from the Christian community because i didn't have the time to discuss the individual beliefs of every christian person - although i have met them ALL
5. Everyone smells but me.
6. i never said i was a naturist (or naturalist) they are different.
7. Never said i was a hippy - lucky guess though.
I hope that cleared all the presumptions made by indoninja.
Submitted by the_lone_stranger (user info) at 2006-07-27 03:49:44 EDT (#)
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BURN EM ALL!
Submitted by eppliks (user info) at 2006-07-27 03:31:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by hoooot (user info) at 2006-07-26 23:00:59 (#)
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God damnit. Stereotype?
Don't let one bad Christian allow you to put a label on everyone else.
It's just irresponsible.
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I agree, but don't let one bad HUMAN allow you to put a label on everyone else.
Submitted by Banga3386 (user info) at 2006-07-27 02:55:12 EDT (#)
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I can't stomach it to read all of the comments from people who completely missed the point her.
What I can't get my head around is the complete lack of logic and common sense with the religious. I'm not slamming a general people but there are somethings that a person of faith should be able to stop and look and at least say "well ok I can see how people may find this hoakey."
Heres another arguement for your explanation of the barberic: "Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, etc.- millions of dead... Atheists- NO DEAD"
Banga
Submitted by fun_with_needles (user info) at 2006-07-27 00:32:24 EDT (#)
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STUPID LIARRRR THERERS NO CHRISTIANS IN THE UK ONLY IN YHE USA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GO PAT ROBERTSON WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2006-07-27 00:29:45 EDT (#)
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best title ive seen on uber in awhile.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-07-26 23:42:22 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/90973
Fantasy Football, wooo!!!
Submitted by hoooot (user info) at 2006-07-26 23:00:59 EDT (#)
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God damnit. Stereotype?
Don't let one bad Christian allow you to put a label on everyone else.
It's just irresponsible.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2006-07-26 22:54:57 EDT (#)
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screw all the silly shit
your main problem could be solved with electrolysis
Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 22:00:40 EDT (#)
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Im a christian but this was great
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2006-07-26 21:33:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:00:30 (#)
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You should point out that the the fact that there were shepherds tending to flocks of sheep at the time of his birth point out that Jesus was born at latest in September, not December, and that the giving and receiving of gifts and feasting on December 25th is a pagan tradition celebrating the son of Isis.
That really fucks with their head.
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Jesus was born near the time of Passover, near the present-day Eastertime.
He was most likely born in April. The celebration of His birth in December
was another thing stolen from Pagan rituals, designed to emphasize Christianity
over Paganism.
The author pointed out that Pagan means "Country Folk," and they worshipped things like the
new moon, the harvest season, etc. No, they are not baby killers nor do they sacrifice
virgins.
Too many people blame Jesus or God for the idiocy perpetrated by well-meaning but
deluded Christians. . .
Submitted by poisonyourkids (user info) at 2006-07-26 21:20:16 EDT (#)
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i think eppliks pretty much summed it up right there.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2006-07-26 21:17:00 EDT (#)
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yawn paganism and christianity are both ridiculous
Submitted by KindaNews (user info) at 2006-07-26 21:09:54 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-07-26 18:58:43 EDT (#)
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Alter? You mean people masquerading as other people? I've never seen them in church either. Just altars.
Submitted by ooQueso (user info) at 2006-07-26 18:31:58 EDT (#)
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Where did you happen across those "facts"? What a load...
Denial is a powerful, powerful thing. Look what it's done for you.
Submitted by eppliks (user info) at 2006-07-26 18:25:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CHR15 (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:29:07 (#)
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Spot on, it always amazes me how people can blindly follow a religion that has been proved wrong so many times.
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I personally believe that nothing (absolutely nothing) pertaining to spirtual subjects has been proven wrong, in any religion/belief. So, no one can tell anyone that their beliefs are wrong (or that their own beliefs are right). I mean, how the shit do any of us know for sure?
As for me, it's Christ. I don't go to church, and I don't preach, because preaching isn't respectful. I'm not a Christian of any sect, I just follow the basics, which is to (try) to love my neighbor, and love Christ. That's what makes sense to my heart, so to speak, in the same way that Buddhism, Satanism, Judaism or Asatru would make sense to the hearts of others.
Spirituality is a very, very personal thing, and you shouldn't try to interfere with another's path through preaching or naysaying. Just respect it and follow what makes sense to you.
Submitted by gank (user info) at 2006-07-26 16:04:34 EDT (#)
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Fabit,
In your attempt to say that it's unfair for christians to stereotype and pigeonhole you as a certain type of person because you're a pagan, you successfully stereotyped and pigeonholed christians as certain types of people.
Good work, hypocrite.
INDONINJA is exactly right. If I made a post like "Pagans: A Danger to Society" where I exposed some misconceptions about christians, after a conversation with a conveniently hairy pagan (because we know that female naturalists have the buckwheat armpits, right?), people would blow a fucking gasket.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-26 15:59:28 EDT (#)
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Kentish whore...
Although, I would be intrigued by a British Southern Baptist, a bit out of place, eh wot?
Submitted by poisonyourkids (user info) at 2006-07-26 13:14:45 EDT (#)
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if christianity wasnt so much about scaring people into believing what you believe and more about just spreading the idea that its cool to be fair, kind and generous with everyone it would be so much better. but instead they missionary around and tell people to convert or go to hell. the bible is a book of stories that give lessons on how to live a better life, taking it litterally is kind of rediculous.
Submitted by COMountain (user info) at 2006-07-26 13:03:22 EDT (#)
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is Dan Brown your Dad??
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2006-07-26 12:48:47 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-07-26 12:31:35 EDT (#)
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4. Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentacostal - BATSHIT INSANE!
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HAHAHAHA
Submitted by Soley_Trinity (user info) at 2006-07-26 12:16:33 EDT (#)
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I'm worship Satan.
I meant Santa.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-07-26 10:01:23 EDT (#)
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Well thank the baby jesus that none of the practices like the easter bunny leaving eggs has anything to do with paganism.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:26:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:13:46 (#)
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UnderOath, look it up you fuck... okay I wont call you a fucking faggot because you'd take it too seriously, but I want to call you a fucking faggot in the same way that I call my friends fucking faggots when they argue.
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/misc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter
http://www.shasta.com/sphaws/invertedcross.html
Provided, this is a "belief", and I have no real way to substantiate the truth (meaning I was not there when Paul was crucified), I'm just stating the fact that it's a belief.
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Fair enough. You win.
You still smell bad, though.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:19:38 EDT (#)
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fair enough but just so you know, you're going to hell
I have God right here on the phone and he's not amused.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:18:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:32:09 (#)
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didn't christians FOR SURE sacrifice (torture, kill, rape pillage) people who were not christian?
and the strongest point indo has is that we don't know for sure that pagans were always so vegan nature loving hippies?
(ps: jesus would be a pagan if he was alive today)
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I don't think you get my argument. I am not saying christians are better.
I have a problem when people say "I am a pagan, we believe this and we have an ancient religion".
There are countless ways people practice paganism (even more than christianity), and it is next to impossible to know if it is anything like it was practiced 500 or a thousand years ago.
If you are a pagan, great, way to go, I don't care. But don't fool yourself into thinking yours is the only way pagans are or that you are doing it the way they did thousands of years ago. That is just as bad as christians who say they way they worship is the only way to be a real christian.
Now I don't think saying that was Fabit's point, but it seemed to imply that he thought his practice was real paganism, and that it has been that way for a long time. Which brings me back to my first comment, if this post was about some christian correcting some pagan as to what they really believed then it would be -2kakked.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:13:46 EDT (#)
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UnderOath, look it up you fuck... okay I wont call you a fucking faggot because you'd take it too seriously, but I want to call you a fucking faggot in the same way that I call my friends fucking faggots when they argue.
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/misc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter
http://www.shasta.com/sphaws/invertedcross.html
Provided, this is a "belief", and I have no real way to substantiate the truth (meaning I was not there when Paul was crucified), I'm just stating the fact that it's a belief.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:10:42 EDT (#)
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Mmmm....Sacrilicious.
Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2006-07-26 09:00:30 EDT (#)
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You should point out that the the fact that there were shepherds tending to flocks of sheep at the time of his birth point out that Jesus was born at latest in September, not December, and that the giving and receiving of gifts and feasting on December 25th is a pagan tradition celebrating the son of Isis.
That really fucks with their head.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:58:17 EDT (#)
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Not that I'm one or anything.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:58:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Maltese (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:35:08 (#)
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There are many different KINDS of Christians; here's how they rank in order of sanity (top being most sane and bottom being batshit insane)
1. Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, and Methodists - More sane than the average person.
2. Presybterians, Eastern Orthodox, Baptists, Church of God - Might be crazy once in a while.
3. Unificationists, Mennonites (Amish), Seventh-day Adventists - Borderline weird. Stay away from these people.
4. Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentacostal - BATSHIT INSANE!
The girl you were talking to is probably in group 3.
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Seventh-Day Adventists are among the most misrepresented religions in the western world. For an example go google (or wikipedia, I dunno) the Azaria Chamberlain case (better known, unfortunately, as the "dingo ate my baby" case).
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:53:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:32:55 (#)
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Jesus would be anything but christian.
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wasn't there a story where jesus went ape shit on a market place right before he was arrested and dragged to see Pontius? I can't recall but I think it was a moral of cheating or just vainity that jesus was trying to abate with aggression. Anyhow, he would nuke every christian church in the U.S.A. for it's ornate vainity and every mother fucking minister, priest, decon, etc etc that drove a luxury vehicle would be systematically taken care of.
It's been a while sense I was force fed this stuff and I always run fast when religious conversations come up.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:51:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:45:23 (#)
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OH ALSO you forgot about the inverted cross. People keep saying it's a sign of devil worship, but really it's because Paul didn't want to be crucified as jesus was, he didn't feel he deserved the honor.
So it's actually an old christian symbol signifying someone who holds christ in an exalted place.
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Sorry, but this is bullshit.
Inverted crosses were used in crucifying witches because it was thought that by killing them upside down, their souls would find an easier route to hell.
I'm 99% sure about this.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:49:44 EDT (#)
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+2 for accuracy.
IMO: Pagans are wookies. Wookies are dirty hippies. Dirty hippies have good weed.
Thus, Pagans are spared my wrath.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:45:23 EDT (#)
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OH ALSO you forgot about the inverted cross. People keep saying it's a sign of devil worship, but really it's because Paul didn't want to be crucified as jesus was, he didn't feel he deserved the honor.
So it's actually an old christian symbol signifying someone who holds christ in an exalted place.
Submitted by Poots (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:35:32 EDT (#)
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I sacrificed a virgin on my penis. It was exhuberating and I totally reclaimed an inner peace with nature.
Do pagans slander the idea of protected sex? Being the naturalists that they are I would think so but I eat shit on wednesday mornings and it hinders my judgement.
Submitted by Maltese (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:35:08 EDT (#)
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There are many different KINDS of Christians; here's how they rank in order of sanity (top being most sane and bottom being batshit insane)
1. Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, and Methodists - More sane than the average person.
2. Presybterians, Eastern Orthodox, Baptists, Church of God - Might be crazy once in a while.
3. Unificationists, Mennonites (Amish), Seventh-day Adventists - Borderline weird. Stay away from these people.
4. Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentacostal - BATSHIT INSANE!
The girl you were talking to is probably in group 3.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:32:55 EDT (#)
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Jesus would be anything but christian.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:32:09 EDT (#)
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didn't christians FOR SURE sacrifice (torture, kill, rape pillage) people who were not christian?
and the strongest point indo has is that we don't know for sure that pagans were always so vegan nature loving hippies?
(ps: jesus would be a pagan if he was alive today)
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:29:59 EDT (#)
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Indoninja has a point.
The victors write history, and the christians clearly kicked every one else's ass a thousand years ago. There is no way to know anything for sure.
fucking christians.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:25:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:57:22 (#)
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Pagan means "Someone who lives in the country"
Because over the years paganism had to hide in the Country from mainstream christian society the word pagan fitted.
I have no doubt that Paganism in its many hundreds of forms has changed over the ages, your not looking at what i'm saying. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, i'm just saying we're mellow not evil devil worshippers.
i could blast chrianity apart with a ripping its so full of hypocrisy, lies and innacuracies but that would be slating someone elses religion, that's not very friendly and actually against my religion.
Because you see we don't FORCE our beliefs on people. If they want to know we tell them. We don't go to deepest darkes africa and scare people into converting. Because its rude. I don't know if you are a Christian or not ninja, and to be honest it's none of my business, but I'M not in the business of ripping other religions. I will however make it clear when one religion has borrowed parts of mine and then accused us of being devil worshipping, naked dancing baby sacrificing virgin burners.
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I was under the impression that christianity spread to cities faster, not that pagans hid in the country.
I don't think pagans are evil devil worshippers, or anything like that. I am not placing a value on christianity or paganism. I just don't think it is an ancient religion, or at least it is nothing like the ancient way it was practiced, because nobody knows what was practiced (or knows very little about what was practiced). I could be wrong, but I have read a lot about it and have never heard of any continious link between pagans of old and pagans today, especially in the UK. To my knowledge there is very little literature on it, especially in the UK (as opposed to say norse areas).
I realize christianity has co-oped a bunch of pagan holidays, you can clearly see it in the way that christianity is practiced differently in different lands. But you are kidding yourself if you don't think the reverse is true.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:19:33 EDT (#)
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speaking of the light of god.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:19:14 EDT (#)
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I'd be into Sol Invictus but its too christian now.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-07-26 08:03:31 EDT (#)
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They just don't want you to go to hell Fabit. They love you and want to bring you into the light of God.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:57:22 EDT (#)
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Pagan means "Someone who lives in the country"
Because over the years paganism had to hide in the Country from mainstream christian society the word pagan fitted.
I have no doubt that Paganism in its many hundreds of forms has changed over the ages, your not looking at what i'm saying. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, i'm just saying we're mellow not evil devil worshippers.
i could blast chrianity apart with a ripping its so full of hypocrisy, lies and innacuracies but that would be slating someone elses religion, that's not very friendly and actually against my religion.
Because you see we don't FORCE our beliefs on people. If they want to know we tell them. We don't go to deepest darkes africa and scare people into converting. Because its rude. I don't know if you are a Christian or not ninja, and to be honest it's none of my business, but I'M not in the business of ripping other religions. I will however make it clear when one religion has borrowed parts of mine and then accused us of being devil worshipping, naked dancing baby sacrificing virgin burners.
Submitted by bigbabylons (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:55:31 EDT (#)
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Not sure on my religion really there are pleanty out there, probably lean towards Asatru/Odinism.
But then you can get some funny people too, I used to work with someone who insisted on calling the days os the week after the God's. Frigga's Day, Woden's Day, Thunars's Day and so on, now i know this is where they got there names from but it didn't half use to confuse some people.
Like Fabit said though i think religion she be down to the individual, not someone forcing it down your throat. Come to think of it the misus doesn't like that either.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:46:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:29:41 (#)
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If i was wiccan then i might accept that it was a fashionable religion as (contrary popular belief) wicca has only been around for about 30 or 40 years. It's in the right area but seems to attract the kids.
I myself am pagan, as is a good majority of my family. I live in an area where a lot pagans live and where there is a lot of celtic/pagan history.
I wasn't just explaining that paganism is about loving everyone equally, doing good for all equally, i was showing that modern christians have a lot of misconceptions around a whole load of people who are very happy with who they are and who are not involved in a cult or fashionable religion, but who carry on a faith many thousands of years old. Much older in fact than "Westeren" christianity. I think its important that the christian community know we aren't burning virgins or worshiping the devil. Were different not evil.
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Where do you live that pagan religion has been kept alive in secret for thousands of years. Tell me during all the different invasions, language changes, cultural changes etc you don't think your ancient religion has changed dramatically?
It is weird that you would say "pagan" is older than chritianity by thousands of years. I was under the impression that pagan is a christian word used to describe any more "primitive" (for lack of a better word) religion.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:33:06 EDT (#)
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"alters"?
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:29:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:23:15 (#)
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I find it amusing that this would be -2kakked if it was some christian explaining to a pagan that christianity is really about loving your neighbor, but since you are talking about fashionable pagan beliefs it will get showered with +2's.
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If i was wiccan then i might accept that it was a fashionable religion as (contrary popular belief) wicca has only been around for about 30 or 40 years. It's in the right area but seems to attract the kids.
I myself am pagan, as is a good majority of my family. I live in an area where a lot pagans live and where there is a lot of celtic/pagan history.
I wasn't just explaining that paganism is about loving everyone equally, doing good for all equally, i was showing that modern christians have a lot of misconceptions around a whole load of people who are very happy with who they are and who are not involved in a cult or fashionable religion, but who carry on a faith many thousands of years old. Much older in fact than "Westeren" christianity. I think its important that the christian community know we aren't burning virgins or worshiping the devil. Were different not evil.
Submitted by CHR15 (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:29:07 EDT (#)
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Spot on, it always amazes me how people can blindly follow a religion that has been proved wrong so many times.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:24:13 EDT (#)
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This one time at band camp...
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:23:15 EDT (#)
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Plus one for the beard part.
I am just curious where you get your idea of what pagans really did before christians came.
I find it amusing that this would be -2kakked if it was some christian explaining to a pagan that christianity is really about loving your neighbor, but since you are talking about fashionable pagan beliefs it will get showered with +2's.
Submitted by w_t_a_y_s_t_r_m (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:17:08 EDT (#)
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Who wouldn't want to go the moon?
Well I know a certain little man who's going to look through his telescope one night and see me and all my followers munching on nice moon cheese and feel a grumbly that shitty cheddar just won't sort.
Then I'll laugh.
Until we eat the whole moon.
Then some bad stuff might happen.
Like we'd be homeless.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:14:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by w_t_a_y_s_t_r_m (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:05:59 (#)
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I thought you were a Natheist?
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You wanted to take all my money "For the Greater good" so we could build a space ship and move to the moon with our god. You.
Nah sorry dude - not my cup of mead.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:13:04 EDT (#)
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Haha no i didn't get amongst said christian lass as it was my girlfriends brothers bbq. I never lost sight of the starting sentence, "Mel, this is MY boyfriend Andy"
Mrs Fabit is very aware of ownership
Any way Christian girl was Hairy.
Submitted by phuzzygish (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:10:15 EDT (#)
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Well I'll be buggered... Look who it is!
Did you get amongst said Christain lass?
Submitted by w_t_a_y_s_t_r_m (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:05:59 EDT (#)
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I thought you were a Natheist?
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:04:28 EDT (#)
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Superb!
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:03:39 EDT (#)
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Well of course you are a pagan, you're a yokel.
"Oooh arrr, the crops be looking infested with weevils. Oi'd best build a statue to my pagan God of insecticide. Oi wonders if perhaps Oi should also go to London and but Berty that pint Oi owe 'im."
That's you that is.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:01:44 EDT (#)
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i lean towards odinism but its all individual anyway. Cheers dude
Submitted by hour_man (user info) at 2006-07-26 07:01:03 EDT (#)
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title = +2
will rate content when I'm back from lunch. In the mean time will you people please read muy fiction! I get told to write fiction and no one fucking reviews it! At least I don't link whore....all the time
Submitted by pirate_pipi (user info) at 2006-07-26 06:58:51 EDT (#)
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As a semi-Pagan (it would take way to long to explain my religion), raise in Southern Ireland, re-educating the Christains is always going to get my +2.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2006-07-26 06:56:14 EDT (#)
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Let the flaming begin