Existentialism 101 (1060 hits)
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Submitted by OathMeal (View user info) at 2006-08-11 10:38:46 EDT
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FACT #1:
Nothing about you, your life, your relationships, your family, your hobbies, your dreams, your education, your career, your penis (or vagina), your 401(k), your sports car or your attitude towards life ... means anything.
Life is a pointless, spontaneous eruption of sentience and it warrants no further acknowledgement.
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The above is what a 4-year degree in Philosophy will do to you.
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FACT #2:
Everything about women, their looks, their perspectives, their gold-digging tendencies, their pretentiousness, their need for gratification, their nonexistent capacity for abstract thought, their superficiality ... means nothing.
Today's woman is a self-serving and vindictive conglomeration of Tiffany bracelets and progesterone.
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The above is what a failed 4-year relationship will do to you.
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FACT #3:
Regardless of any amount of effort you put into any endeavor, there is an overwhelmingly good chance that someone has either already done something of this caliber or that someone will do something equal or greater in at some time in the future.
However novel you think your creation or undertaking is, it's really not.
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The above is what 4 years of reading posts on Ubersite will do to you. Much weep.
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Now easing out of my mid-twenties I'm beginning to appreciate good, old-fashioned cynicism moreso than I ever have. As I walk down the dingy, cracked streets of this putrid city and take note of the signs of dilapidation everywhere, clarity comes easy.
Life is long, agonizing and uncomfortable ... but at the end of it and when all is said and done, dying is like removing a shoe tied too tightly.
Pull the strings, welcome sweet relief and take in the entire experience of life's end. Sorry it's been such a long and arduous haul, but it's over now and you can rest.
The blood you spilled both yours and others ...
The headaches and long nights spent at the office and those spent arguing with your bitch ...
The times your Dad blamed himself for your financial ineptitude ...
The taste of bad Mexican food ...
The sensation of running over a squirrel for the first time (thump, thump) ...
The strange color on your tongue resulting from a feast of Mike-and-Ike's and other fun-sized candy on Halloween ...
The last breath you take hoping that in some way your life was worth living ...
The decision to take the road less travelled (and henceforth to grimace at any reference anyone ever makes to a Robert Frost poem) ...
The 6:00am smell of ass, Mr. Boston's vodka, bad pot and B.O., all at once ...
The paradigm-shifting account of a crimson sunset over the front range of the Colorado Rockies ...
Make no bones about it:
Life leaves you breathless.
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Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:50:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:44:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:41:43 EDT (#)
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Sage, FTW, with the RHCP inference.
I still liked this post. Existentialist philosophy is fascinating.
POINTS!!
That is all
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Sage FTL with her "POINTS". Could you be any lamer?
Tits or GTFO
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Tits, above.
Enjoy my points and STFU.
Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:44:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:41:43 EDT (#)
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Sage, FTW, with the RHCP inference.
I still liked this post. Existentialist philosophy is fascinating.
POINTS!!
That is all
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Sage FTL with her "POINTS". Could you be any lamer?
Tits or GTFO
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:41:43 EDT (#)
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Hey Rob:
Get on top!
Get on top!
Hit me! Come get me!
I bite but, she bit me!
Gorilla! Cuntilla!
Sammy D and salmonella
Come with me 'cause I'm an ass killer
You're ill but I'm iller!
Sage, FTW, with the RHCP inference.
I still liked this post. Existentialist philosophy is fascinating.
POINTS!!
That is all.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:29:47 EDT (#)
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No I'm not.
Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-10-07 15:11:39 EDT (#)
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I see Berg is doing the usual " I have to get the last word!" shit in some meaningless 3way e-cock measuring contest. Nothing but faggots below.
PS this post blew.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 14:26:54 EDT (#)
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You should be old man.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-10-07 14:20:49 EDT (#)
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Oh Rob...you're so smart and stuff. I'm jealous.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 14:08:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-10-07 13:15:27 EDT (#)
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The three of you are all retards to the nth degree.
Case closed.
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Yes, good closing old man. There is >nothing< retarded about the time you spend online huffing and puffing or the time you spend soliciting random internet vagina.
I'm sure a panel of e-judges would all agree you are perfectly normal. http://www.ubersite.com/m/111642
Heh - all three of you fuckers are fascinating in your own special way. I thank each of you for spending as much time as you do cultivating your own uniquely pathetic online legacies as it has contributed greatly to my overall enjoyment of this dump.
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2008-10-07 13:35:33 EDT (#)
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FUck yeah '93 baretta!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-10-07 13:15:27 EDT (#)
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The three of you are all retards to the nth degree.
Case closed.
Submitted by weather (user info) at 2008-10-07 13:00:10 EDT (#)
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I'm pretty sure that Berg lives in a fantasy world where his glass globe is a candy shell just waiting to be shaken up so that he can spew his convoluted theory to any one who will give him an audience.
Oathmeal lives in cartoon world where he is more badass then Shredder leaving him absolutely baffled as to why Berg continues to use morals as a selling point when the obvious answer is nunchucks.
The relationship, although quite torpid, is a good fit for one another. I believe they thrive off of each others very existence whether it be for uber or for realsies.
Rain rain, go away!
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:29:51 EDT (#)
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: )
I win.
Submitted by stucker (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:26:58 EDT (#)
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THANK YOU DR. FREUD!
Now would you kindly fuck off so I can get back to being a fucking badass of epic proportions?
My duties are being skirted thanks to this 'foray' into the empty mind of Rob Berg, oversensitive Ubersite critic extraordinaire.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:23:24 EDT (#)
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See?
You make the choice to use my dead brother as ammunition in a pointless e-argument. Bravo, proving my point in 2 comments. Impressive.
If you care to remember, I admonished Scourge - who I like infinitely more than you - because of his comments about your mother. You chose to share that information and I have never used it negatively towards you. I see no value in doing that - why do you?
You are unhappy because you pollute the world with your negative bullshit. You will continue to fail.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:14:41 EDT (#)
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...and yes. I'm pretty sure you deserve it. Perhaps not everything that you have failed at... but most.
Free will allows you a certain latitude to not suck after all.
Submitted by stucker (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:13:18 EDT (#)
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You want to talk about failing?
How about letting loose on this site information regarding your late brother? Tell me THAT isn't pure and unrefined failure.
This place is a vile heap of hate, insecurity and palpable emotional distress. It's also catharsis. At least, that's a large part of why *I* come here.
But, if what I do 'fascinates' you (faggot), then great. A mere byproduct for me to be proud of, I guess.
Hopefully you feel good about yourself having slung unsolicited shit my way.
I need to go take a piss. Perhaps it'll feel just as good.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 12:08:17 EDT (#)
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This is the one and only account I have ever had, peaches.
I've thought it necessary to 'walk away' a couple of times - sure. I like it here, people like you keep it interesting, if not occasionally painful and pathetic.
How many times have you been banned? How many alters do you have?
I have SEEN you fail - quite spectacularily on this very site. I don't have to know much more about your "real life" to ascertain that you are unhappy, puffy, and substantial failure.
You can deflect all you want big boy - this site is meaningless and if my opinion is worth nothing in your polluted, desperate little world, so be it.
You still suck, and I rock.
Eat that.
Submitted by stucker (user info) at 2008-10-07 11:56:33 EDT (#)
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Rob Berg you know absolutely nothing about me, contrary to what you think you can glean from half-assed posts on this backwater website.
I 'deserve' it?
HAHAHAHA
Right on.
You keep thinking that, and I'll keep thinking you'll actually ever leave this site like you (and even I) have promised.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 11:32:37 EDT (#)
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Heh. I didn't realize this was so old and I had already rated.
2 years of watching you fuck about allows for a certain amount of clarity. huh?
Even after all of the stupid, silly shit that you have typed into this little box, all the meltdowns you have had, all the ridiculous scraps you continue to provoke and participate in, unfortunate images you have posted, and all-around stupidity that has been associated with the Oathmeal and his infinite alters uber legacy - I still find you quite fascinating.
Just a lot less likable.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-10-07 11:19:46 EDT (#)
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You speak with the perfect clarity of someone who despite their best (and worst) efforts manages to fail quite regularly, monumentally and tragically.
It kinda sucks that you are aware enough to realize that other people inexplicably transcend at least most of the random messy bullshit that life distributes and rocks out their time spent wallowing in this fleeting, limited consciousness.
I'd feel bad for you, but I'm pretty sure you deserve it.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-10-07 09:30:16 EDT (#)
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I sort of liked this.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2006-10-27 13:35:33 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/95020#2202073
banning attempt
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-16 09:31:45 EDT (#)
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Negate Cinderblock.
Submitted by Cinderblock (user info) at 2006-09-01 22:05:43 EDT (#)
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No Comment
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:30:30 (#)
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... and you are an absolutely fascinating individual. I don't know much about you, but I am infinitely impressed with what I have seen thus far.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-14 15:04:32 EDT (#)
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Bah.
No matter how you justify it: Suicide is the easy way out.
I'm not saying it's always bad call, God knows I have sure mulled it over a few times when substantially overwhelmed with the giant pile of shit life consistently dumps on all of us mortals.
We are all terminal - that's the gig. You can get off this ride anytime you choose but what defines you as an individual is how long you stay strapped in and what you experience during the journey.
Experience is what we are all about, my friend. The so-called meaning of life.
I liked this post a lot. It gave some real insight into yer brain, and I fucking dig what I see.
Nice work.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:49:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-08-14 12:22:50 (#)
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If you were a droid we'd give you a memory wipe.
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One of these days man. One of these days I'm just going to cross that fucking ocean and molest you.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:44:56 EDT (#)
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Also, here is a link to the GRE stats. http://www.lclark.edu/~phil/gre.html
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:44:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:32:11 (#)
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i don't care if you wanted to. i didn't ask why you did. but now i'll ask - what did you plan to do with that afterward? philosophy is wonderful but impractical for anything other than teaching philosophy. ok and sometimes becoming some sort of minister or cult leader.
did you double major in something? do something a little more useful and applicable to getting a job? or do you want to teach and that's that? or another option, are you just going to do charity work and stuff like that so you were planning on not really using practical knowledge anyway?
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http://www.clemson.edu/caah/philosophy/website/html/Famous%20majors.html
Not THAT impractical, hon.
Philosophy Majors on average score higher in the quantative portion of the GRE than any other humanities majors. They actually score higher on average in the verbal than English majors. I'm not a philo major, but you can't just take the stereotype of the "head in the clouds" philosophy major as necessarily true.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:30:30 EDT (#)
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that's all i was looking for. not shooting holes in your logic, explanation of it.
what's your dog's name?
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-14 14:16:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:36:12 (#)
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Katy, you seem awfully defensive of the notion that everyone has to DO something in this life. It is quite agreeable to just live and then die. There really isn't much point in living the typical human life; however, the earth is such a marvelous place that it's hard to let go. One doesn't have to commit suicide just because they disagree with the beloved human life. They can just go off and live life as is, maybe they'll die homeless on the streets at 30 years of age, so what? People are obsessed with living longer, but why? The longer you live, the more competative we all get, so you have to work more of your life away until you can finally stop working, but by that time your hands will be wrinkled and you'll be too old to really enjoy this extremely finite existence. Life is what you're living now, not something you plan for in the future.
There's no reason for the excessive "doing" of things that our lives demands. We only require food, drink, and excercise to live; not mp3s, insurance, and gold plated teeth.
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Beautifully put.
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i did not forget this....
i'm just wondering why, if you're planning to kill yourself, you'd rather wait. you actually end up doing more by waiting around. if your motivation is to do as little as possible, doing one final thing is more fitting than doing many things before that one final thing.
i'm just wondering - why wait?
ps, i have only car insurance, i own no gold, and the only mp3 i currently have is redskies singing blaydon races. i consider that a necessity thank you very much.
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Inion -
Trying to shoot holes in my logic regarding suicide is not only a bit cruel but kinda pointless. But regardless, I'll humor you here.
- I have a dog. She's 8 years old. I refuse to leave this earth while she still lives.
- My mother died when I was quite young and I vowed to upgrade her tombstone before I depart.
- I've yet to determine the location of my death. I'm thinking somewhere in the woods next a creek or something but it's TBD.
So, I have my reasons.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-08-14 12:22:50 EDT (#)
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If you were a droid we'd give you a memory wipe.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-14 12:16:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:36:12 (#)
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Katy, you seem awfully defensive of the notion that everyone has to DO something in this life. It is quite agreeable to just live and then die. There really isn't much point in living the typical human life; however, the earth is such a marvelous place that it's hard to let go. One doesn't have to commit suicide just because they disagree with the beloved human life. They can just go off and live life as is, maybe they'll die homeless on the streets at 30 years of age, so what? People are obsessed with living longer, but why? The longer you live, the more competative we all get, so you have to work more of your life away until you can finally stop working, but by that time your hands will be wrinkled and you'll be too old to really enjoy this extremely finite existence. Life is what you're living now, not something you plan for in the future.
There's no reason for the excessive "doing" of things that our lives demands. We only require food, drink, and excercise to live; not mp3s, insurance, and gold plated teeth.
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Beautifully put.
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i did not forget this....
i'm just wondering why, if you're planning to kill yourself, you'd rather wait. you actually end up doing more by waiting around. if your motivation is to do as little as possible, doing one final thing is more fitting than doing many things before that one final thing.
i'm just wondering - why wait?
ps, i have only car insurance, i own no gold, and the only mp3 i currently have is redskies singing blaydon races. i consider that a necessity thank you very much.
Submitted by extacy_red (user info) at 2006-08-11 22:50:30 EDT (#)
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you are a faggot
court dismissed
Submitted by hot_pocket (user info) at 2006-08-11 19:58:32 EDT (#)
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i think all three are very true and could all be ascertained from reading shit here on uber and just knowing half the stuckup chicks on this campus/any college
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2006-08-11 18:39:49 EDT (#)
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Yep...
Submitted by Kale (user info) at 2006-08-11 16:25:43 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2006-08-11 16:22:17 EDT (#)
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excellent post.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-08-11 16:02:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:11:26 (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:11:56 (#)
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Too much existentialism will rot your brain
I can see that it's already started
How about this one - if nothing matters, then why live? Why don't you just kill yourself?
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I don't mean to be a downer on your Friday, Pentameter, but suicide is in fact the plan. It's just the timing I have to decide on.
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I really hope you aren't fucking serious. As a philosophy major, you should know that we all create our own meaning. No one can define it for us, not even a philosopher.
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I really hope you _are_ serious - that means more oxygen and gasoline for me.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-08-11 15:08:59 EDT (#)
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friggin sweet.
ANAL MUFFINS FOR ALL
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:57:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:36:12 (#)
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Katy, you seem awfully defensive of the notion that everyone has to DO something in this life. It is quite agreeable to just live and then die. There really isn't much point in living the typical human life; however, the earth is such a marvelous place that it's hard to let go. One doesn't have to commit suicide just because they disagree with the beloved human life. They can just go off and live life as is, maybe they'll die homeless on the streets at 30 years of age, so what? People are obsessed with living longer, but why? The longer you live, the more competative we all get, so you have to work more of your life away until you can finally stop working, but by that time your hands will be wrinkled and you'll be too old to really enjoy this extremely finite existence. Life is what you're living now, not something you plan for in the future.
There's no reason for the excessive "doing" of things that our lives demands. We only require food, drink, and excercise to live; not mp3s, insurance, and gold plated teeth.
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Beautifully put.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:53:07 EDT (#)
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Go Dawgs
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:40:20 EDT (#)
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"Today's woman is a self-serving and vindictive conglomeration of Tiffany bracelets and progesterone."
Yep, and damn proud of it!
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:37:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:06:54 (#)
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Life is like stradling a set of railroad tracks. Far in the distance, a train can be heard fast on the approach. You have two options: you can either turn in the direction facing away from the oncoming train and begin walking ... oh, tirelessly walking, down the tracks providing you with a few sweet yards of space (and hence, time) between you and the impending train.
- or -
You can crack a beer, sit back and wait. Fuck walking.
I choose the latter.
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Excellent. You sound like a cool dude.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:36:12 EDT (#)
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Katy, you seem awfully defensive of the notion that everyone has to DO something in this life. It is quite agreeable to just live and then die. There really isn't much point in living the typical human life; however, the earth is such a marvelous place that it's hard to let go. One doesn't have to commit suicide just because they disagree with the beloved human life. They can just go off and live life as is, maybe they'll die homeless on the streets at 30 years of age, so what? People are obsessed with living longer, but why? The longer you live, the more competative we all get, so you have to work more of your life away until you can finally stop working, but by that time your hands will be wrinkled and you'll be too old to really enjoy this extremely finite existence. Life is what you're living now, not something you plan for in the future.
There's no reason for the excessive "doing" of things that our lives demands. We only require food, drink, and excercise to live; not mp3s, insurance, and gold plated teeth.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:35:12 EDT (#)
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Inion:
http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/lawsofthought.htm
Make yourself comfy.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:28:00 EDT (#)
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figures that reply would come while writing mine.
you had all this time and you chose corporate sales and now you're upset that you're doing what you set out NOT to do in the first place by avoiding what the people you knew had chosen?
does that make sense to you? again, if it makes you miserable, why the hell would you go and do it. especially if you're apparently not getting any benefits that you're looking forward to? i mean if you're making decent money why not spend that on crap you enjoy so there's at least some reason to have such a crappy job?
and... laws of thinking, taken literally, made me laugh. just the idea that you could put rules down for that one is kind of funny as a concept.
what's it actually about?
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:27:19 EDT (#)
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Seriously, now you sound like him...
This better not be him.
Rowsdower.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:24:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:06:54 (#)
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Inion I do hope you return to this post to have a gander at my reply.
I'd like to bring in an analogy here that would do well to support my position.
Life is like stradling a set of railroad tracks. Far in the distance, a train can be heard fast on the approach. You have two options: you can either turn in the direction facing away from the oncoming train and begin walking ... oh, tirelessly walking, down the tracks providing you with a few sweet yards of space (and hence, time) between you and the impending train.
- or -
You can crack a beer, sit back and wait. Fuck walking.
I choose the latter.
Does this explain anything?
Your suggestion to give suicide 'the old college try' only speaks to your unfathomable level of ignorance on the topic. I've been there, done that. I've 'cried for help' and been under surveillance, etc. "Giving it the old college try" is sophomoric advice at best. I'm a pragmatist, after all.
But let's not let this be about me and my death wish. Let it be about the futility of life in general. Argue that. Leave my longings for nonexistence alone.
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i'm not suggesting a cry for help. i'm suggesting a legitimate attempt at suicide. jump off a very very high bridge, a cliff, something that once you take the last step there's no turning around. no heaving your insides into the toilet, no calling 911 and holding a towel to your wrist, no pulling back up on a rope. there's no going back. if you survive a jump off some insane height, then that wasn't a cry for help, that was as an attempt and a failure.
or try a gun. be masculine and pick something near permanent. men are more likely to succeed at suicide because they choose more violent ways. so choose a more violent way. i am not ignorant of the topic. having tried and failed to kill myself three times, (oh poor emo me) and having kept those to myself for the most part, or at least away from any kind of authority figure that would do something about it, they were not cries for help. they were failures. i don't know that i wouldn't try again. probably not soon if i did. i'm sure if i did i'd have the sense to at least jump off a tall building this time instead of the previous three attempts as useless as they were. the idea of going splat is kind of appealing if only for the onomatopoeic factor.
who knows, maybe there'll be like a nuclear holocaust and then i'll end up partially melted just hoping some run away mad max train does come along and splat me into oblivion. i don't know. ok well there a couple things i'd kill myself over. or well enlist the aide of someone to wheel me off a cliff in the case of paralysis. ok well actually take that back if i couldn't feel my own ass or cunny and had to shit in a bag i'd kill myself. that's where i've drawn my line. wheel me off the grand canyon.
don't mention your "longings" if you want them left alone. that's why i keep things to myself that i don't want comments on. opening them up to the world is to invite judgment, if you want privacy, stay under your blanket. either way, if there's no point to anything, why wait? unless you think there's a point to something or you're afraid. i'm pretty sure death is easier than life but i could be wrong having never experienced it personally. although being a ghost sounds rather awesome.
if you've been there done that about everything or think you have at any rate (which i know you haven't only because it's impossible), why not just start walking down the tracks towards the train. that's option three. which for some reason you failed to mention.
ps -none of that answered my question about what you do with your degree btw. other than to point me in the direction of nothing.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:23:05 EDT (#)
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I know a guy with a 4 year degree in philosohpy from Johns Hopkins.
Seriously.
Unfortunately, he's also now unemployed...
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:14:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:05:35 (#)
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also, i don't understand getting a degree about thinking.
shouldn't you be thinking on your own anyway?
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Philosophy isn't a discipline exclusively concerned with thinking. That's epistemology/ontology.
Philo (love) + Sophia (knowledge) = Philosophy, the love of knowledge/wisdom.
For me, to study and digest the biggest questions and problems of this entire universe was QUITE an undertaking and CERTAINLY no cakewalk (Philosophy of Mathematics? Phenomenology? 50 page papers on Laws of Thought?).
What do I do now? I'm in corporate sales. White collar, carpeted cubicle and all. Seems like I could have gotten a degree in underwater basketweaving for all the irrelevancy assignable to *gasp* philosophy.
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:37:51 (#)
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i don't "totally fail to understand" this. haha. i'm doing something i love to pieces right now even if the majority of the world just looks at me going wtf are you thinking you twat. actually that describes most things in my life. i don't understand doing something for a living that you're unhappy with. i don't understand completely disregarding your own happiness for others with the few exceptions of your own children and generally doing the right thing, ie don't kill people for fun it isn't right.
on the other hand, i don't understand studying something so "useless" to a future. i don't know what you want. i see what i want, i go after it for the most part as i see what's right. i see what i want (and most normal wants) as something that your degree nearly makes impossible to attain. living in the moment is nice until you see that there's most likely, although not guarantee, a moment that comes after the one you're living in. if that happens and you haven't done anything near what you needed to because thought of the future didn't even cause your eyelashes to flutter as it moved into your brain, then you're fucked. i don't understand why anyone would choose that. but then again if no one counts on you and no one matters to you it wouldn't be a worry of yours.
maybe you don't want the normal things. maybe you want no one to look up to you or rely on you. i personally want children, so a philosophy degree is laughable to me because there's no way in the world i could, in good conscience, go about procreating when i have nothing to offer them other than my thoughts on life which would be mine anyway.
and technically, fucking all else to do what you want is not existentialism it's hedonism. it's pure selfishness, which if it works for you is great. even existentialism has the provision for finding your very own little spot in society. philosophy degree or not disregard for everything but yourself is hedonism.
if you're really planning to kill yourself i'd say there's no time like the present. if nothing has a point then there's nothing further to do here and you might as well off yourself now before you affect anyone else. if you're only sticking around to find out if you were wrong, which it doesn't sound like you are, we could all save you the trouble and tell you that you are only to have you not listen. seriously, if you're so damned determined to kill yourself you should at least give it the old college try. if you fail, maybe you should try something else. you, alone, don't have to worry about timing with suicide. you'll be dead. regarding it's effect on others close to you or that you care about, suicide is never really all that well-timed.
i liked the way you wrote this and everything. funny way to put it. but you're just about as bad as that darkness chick/alter. like the part about women, if you spent 4 years with ONE woman then you know how ONE woman is. not all women. i'm not really defending my gender, i'm more speaking to the point that there are exceptions to the rules of the human species. for the most part people are opportunistic parasites. at least in this society, the bushmen seem to have gotten it right but i happen to like flush toilets.
fact 3 is something smart people learn when they are children. if it takes a quarter of a century to learn that, you're either a slow learner, or you were coddled. if you were coddled, that might explain your current view in the world. in my experience, when people never have a hard time with the basics of existence, they get this lack of feeling towards experiences that other people would probably kill for.
ps - there's more than economics, business and accounting to the world outside college. likewise, there's more to the opposite spectrum of those than philosophy. i think you'd be less inclined to kill yourself if maybe you were a history major or something like that. history and philogophy have a lot in common. same with anthropology.
apollo's right. it's not really that assholish when you've already stated your intentions. think of it as encouragement to accomplish your goals.
and.... what is it you do with your degree any way?
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Inion I do hope you return to this post to have a gander at my reply.
I'd like to bring in an analogy here that would do well to support my position.
Life is like stradling a set of railroad tracks. Far in the distance, a train can be heard fast on the approach. You have two options: you can either turn in the direction facing away from the oncoming train and begin walking ... oh, tirelessly walking, down the tracks providing you with a few sweet yards of space (and hence, time) between you and the impending train.
- or -
You can crack a beer, sit back and wait. Fuck walking.
I choose the latter.
Does this explain anything?
Your suggestion to give suicide 'the old college try' only speaks to your unfathomable level of ignorance on the topic. I've been there, done that. I've 'cried for help' and been under surveillance, etc. "Giving it the old college try" is sophomoric advice at best. I'm a pragmatist, after all.
But let's not let this be about me and my death wish. Let it be about the futility of life in general. Argue that. Leave my longings for nonexistence alone.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:05:35 EDT (#)
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also, i don't understand getting a degree about thinking.
shouldn't you be thinking on your own anyway?
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2006-08-11 14:00:09 EDT (#)
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This gave me a hiatal hernia if that's even a type of hernia. I don't know whether I think you are alright or if I think you are a dick sniffer. Either way, I liked this post. Enjoy it, I don't think next week is going to be good for me, or anyone else. I'm predicting something catastropic.
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:15:45 (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:13:53 (#)
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well fucking hurry up then.
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For someone so popular on this site you're quite the asshole. ""
duh! that's how you GET to be popular.
When I just posted outstanding works of fiction I was such a loser I wasn't on the MVA.
Imagine how empty my life would be without that. I used to be 14 you know! 14! Now I am just a washed up 20th place.
:-(
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:39:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:11:56 (#)
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Too much existentialism will rot your brain
I can see that it's already started
How about this one - if nothing matters, then why live? Why don't you just kill yourself?
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I don't mean to be a downer on your Friday, Pentameter, but suicide is in fact the plan. It's just the timing I have to decide on.
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I really hope you aren't fucking serious. As a philosophy major, you should know that we all create our own meaning. No one can define it for us, not even a philosopher.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:37:51 EDT (#)
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i don't "totally fail to understand" this. haha. i'm doing something i love to pieces right now even if the majority of the world just looks at me going wtf are you thinking you twat. actually that describes most things in my life. i don't understand doing something for a living that you're unhappy with. i don't understand completely disregarding your own happiness for others with the few exceptions of your own children and generally doing the right thing, ie don't kill people for fun it isn't right.
on the other hand, i don't understand studying something so "useless" to a future. i don't know what you want. i see what i want, i go after it for the most part as i see what's right. i see what i want (and most normal wants) as something that your degree nearly makes impossible to attain. living in the moment is nice until you see that there's most likely, although not guarantee, a moment that comes after the one you're living in. if that happens and you haven't done anything near what you needed to because thought of the future didn't even cause your eyelashes to flutter as it moved into your brain, then you're fucked. i don't understand why anyone would choose that. but then again if no one counts on you and no one matters to you it wouldn't be a worry of yours.
maybe you don't want the normal things. maybe you want no one to look up to you or rely on you. i personally want children, so a philosophy degree is laughable to me because there's no way in the world i could, in good conscience, go about procreating when i have nothing to offer them other than my thoughts on life which would be mine anyway.
and technically, fucking all else to do what you want is not existentialism it's hedonism. it's pure selfishness, which if it works for you is great. even existentialism has the provision for finding your very own little spot in society. philosophy degree or not disregard for everything but yourself is hedonism.
if you're really planning to kill yourself i'd say there's no time like the present. if nothing has a point then there's nothing further to do here and you might as well off yourself now before you affect anyone else. if you're only sticking around to find out if you were wrong, which it doesn't sound like you are, we could all save you the trouble and tell you that you are only to have you not listen. seriously, if you're so damned determined to kill yourself you should at least give it the old college try. if you fail, maybe you should try something else. you, alone, don't have to worry about timing with suicide. you'll be dead. regarding it's effect on others close to you or that you care about, suicide is never really all that well-timed.
i liked the way you wrote this and everything. funny way to put it. but you're just about as bad as that darkness chick/alter. like the part about women, if you spent 4 years with ONE woman then you know how ONE woman is. not all women. i'm not really defending my gender, i'm more speaking to the point that there are exceptions to the rules of the human species. for the most part people are opportunistic parasites. at least in this society, the bushmen seem to have gotten it right but i happen to like flush toilets.
fact 3 is something smart people learn when they are children. if it takes a quarter of a century to learn that, you're either a slow learner, or you were coddled. if you were coddled, that might explain your current view in the world. in my experience, when people never have a hard time with the basics of existence, they get this lack of feeling towards experiences that other people would probably kill for.
ps - there's more than economics, business and accounting to the world outside college. likewise, there's more to the opposite spectrum of those than philosophy. i think you'd be less inclined to kill yourself if maybe you were a history major or something like that. history and philogophy have a lot in common. same with anthropology.
apollo's right. it's not really that assholish when you've already stated your intentions. think of it as encouragement to accomplish your goals.
and.... what is it you do with your degree any way?
Submitted by Hypatia86 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:31:33 EDT (#)
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>< oh yeah rating
Submitted by Hypatia86 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:31:13 EDT (#)
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I liked it alot... The picture at the end gave my heart alittle flutter... I can relate to that as well... Like taking off a tight shoe. For some of us thats what death will be like. Others will be scared out of their mind, like taking that last breath and hoping your life meant something. Life only means what you want it to, what you make it.
Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:25:53 EDT (#)
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+2 for the compliment
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:15:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:13:53 (#)
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well fucking hurry up then.
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For someone so popular on this site you're quite the asshole.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-08-11 13:13:53 EDT (#)
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well fucking hurry up then.
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:11:56 (#)
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Too much existentialism will rot your brain
I can see that it's already started
How about this one - if nothing matters, then why live? Why don't you just kill yourself?
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I don't mean to be a downer on your Friday, Pentameter, but suicide is in fact the plan. It's just the timing I have to decide on.
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:57:43 (#)
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so where's my tiffany jewelry?
and who the fuck really gets a 4 year degree in philosophy?
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I do.
"Why?" ... you ask.
I put my hands in my pockets and look you in the eye.
"Because I fucking wanted to."
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ok. wow you can look me in the eye. did ya know hands on pockets can sometimes represent shame?
i don't care if you wanted to. i didn't ask why you did. but now i'll ask - what did you plan to do with that afterward? philosophy is wonderful but impractical for anything other than teaching philosophy. ok and sometimes becoming some sort of minister or cult leader.
did you double major in something? do something a little more useful and applicable to getting a job? or do you want to teach and that's that? or another option, are you just going to do charity work and stuff like that so you were planning on not really using practical knowledge anyway?
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Well thank you for today's lesson from the School of Body Language.
*sigh*
It's not shame. Rather, indifference.
In college I saw everyone around me majoring in things like advertising, business, economics and the like and quite frankly, I could have never forgiven myself for studying something I wasn't completely interested in.
I studied what I have a passion for. Fuck the application of the knowledge gained ... my world view dictates that you do what pleases you, disregarding anything not furthering that cause.
Judging from your comments I'd not be surprised if you totally failed to understand this.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:32:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:59:40 (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:57:43 (#)
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so where's my tiffany jewelry?
and who the fuck really gets a 4 year degree in philosophy?
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I do.
"Why?" ... you ask.
I put my hands in my pockets and look you in the eye.
"Because I fucking wanted to."
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ok. wow you can look me in the eye. did ya know hands on pockets can sometimes represent shame?
i don't care if you wanted to. i didn't ask why you did. but now i'll ask - what did you plan to do with that afterward? philosophy is wonderful but impractical for anything other than teaching philosophy. ok and sometimes becoming some sort of minister or cult leader.
did you double major in something? do something a little more useful and applicable to getting a job? or do you want to teach and that's that? or another option, are you just going to do charity work and stuff like that so you were planning on not really using practical knowledge anyway?
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2006-08-11 12:11:56 EDT (#)
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Too much existentialism will rot your brain
I can see that it's already started
How about this one - if nothing matters, then why live? Why don't you just kill yourself?
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-11 11:58:30 EDT (#)
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+2 great fucking post...
Submitted by onewetleg (user info) at 2006-08-11 11:11:28 EDT (#)
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Yeah, but is it funny? If it's funny then it's worth it.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:59:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:57:43 (#)
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so where's my tiffany jewelry?
and who the fuck really gets a 4 year degree in philosophy?
--------
I do.
"Why?" ... you ask.
I put my hands in my pockets and look you in the eye.
"Because I fucking wanted to."
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:57:43 EDT (#)
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so where's my tiffany jewelry?
and who the fuck really gets a 4 year degree in philosophy?
Submitted by houseman (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:55:03 EDT (#)
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great filename too
Submitted by Deidra (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:45:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Susie_Derkins (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:43:27 EDT (#)
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+2 cynicism *hides Tiffany ring with an embarassed look*
Submitted by phuzzygish (user info) at 2006-08-11 10:42:42 EDT (#)
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It is, but it's a half-full kind of breathless.