Do you Americans have to be so INSULAR? Terrorism goes far beyond the good ol US of A. (4137 hits)
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List of global terrorist attacks in the last 10 years.
Were they all really carried out by Muslims? (http://www.ubersite.com/m/91789)
1996
January: In Kizlyar, 350 Chechen militants took 3,000 hostages in a hospital. The attempt to free them kills 65 civilians and soldiers.
January: Provisional Irish Republican Army plants a bomb that police defuse at the Canary Wharf towers in London.
January 31: LTTE carries out Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
February 9: IRA bombs the South Quay DLR station, killing two people.
February 25 - March 4: A series of four suicide bombings in Israel leave 60 dead and 284 wounded within 10 days.
June 15: Manchester bombing by IRA.
June 25: Khobar Towers bombing -- In all, 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed and 372 wounded, by Hizballah Al-Hijaz (Saudi Hizballah) with Iranian support, see FBI Most Wanted Terrorists
July 24: LTTE plants bomb on commuter train in Sri Lanka kills 57.
July 27: Centennial Olympic Park bombing, killing one and wounding 111.
December 17: Japanese embassy hostage crisis begins in Lima, Peru; it ends April 22, 1997 with the deaths of 14 rebels, two soldiers and a hostage.
1997
February 24: An armed man opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, United States, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
February 25: Three bus bombs in Urumqi destroy the No. 2, 10, and 44 buses, killing 9.
November 17: Luxor Massacre - Islamist gunmen attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 62 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
December 22: Acteal massacre - 46 killed while praying in Acteal, Chiapas, Mexico. A paramilitary group associated with ex-president Salinas is held responsible.
Luis Posada Carriles organized a string of bombings at luxury hotels in Cuba in 1997 in order to discourage the growth of the tourism industry. One Italian tourist died.
1998
January : Wandhama Massacre - 24 Kashmiri Pandits are massacred by Pakistan-backed insurgents in the city of Wandhama in Indian-controlled Kashmir .
February 14: 1998 Coimbatore bombings -Bombings by suspected Islamic Jihadi groups on an election rally in Indian city of Coimbatore kill about 60 people.
January 25: LTTE bombs Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy, Sri Lanka kills 17.
February 25: Serial bombing in Coimbatore, a southern Indian city, which kill at least 61 people.
August 7: U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, killing 225 people and injuring more than 4,000, by al-Qaeda, see FBI Most Wanted Terrorists
August 15: Omagh bombing by the so-called "Real IRA" kills 29.
1999
January 3: Gunmen open fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque, killing 16 people injuring 25.
April: David Copeland's nail bomb attacks against ethnic minorities and gays in London kill three people and injure over 160.
April 20: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold kill 12 students and a teacher and wound 24 others in the Columbine High School massacre. (Note: this may be commonly considered a general massacre and thus included in the List of massacres, but it also followed death threats on the website of Harris - an attempt to terrorize.)
August 31 - September 22: Russian Apartment Bombings kills about 300 people, leading Russia into Second Chechen War.
December: Jordanian authorities foil a plot to bomb US and Israeli tourists in Jordan and pick up 28 suspects as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
December 14: Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the United States-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
December 24: Indian Airlines Flight 814 from Kathmandu, Nepal to Delhi, India is hijacked. One passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released in exchange for release of 4 terrorists.
2000
Terrorism against Israel in 2000.
The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks.
German police foil Strasbourg cathedral bombing plot.
May: The Balochistan Liberation Army begins its attacks against government and military targets in Balochistan.
June 8: Stephen Saunders, a British Defense Attaché, was assassinated by Revolutionary Organization 17 November in Athens.
October 12: USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors and wounds 40 off the port coast of Aden, Yemen, by al-Qaeda, see FBI Most Wanted Terrorists, the Buffalo Six Lackawanna Cell [6]
December 30 Rizal Day Bombings, terrorists blow up LRts in Manila killing 22 and injuring more than 100 people.
2001
The World Trade Center towers ablaze following the September 11 terrorist attacks.
Terrorism against Israel in 2001.
February 5: A bomb blast in Moscow's Byelorusskaya metro station injures 15 people.
February 18: Gracanica bus bombing, 13 Serbian civilians are killed by a bomb attack on a bus in Northern Kosovo.
March 24: Twenty people die and 93 are injured in three bomb attacks on Russian towns near the border of Chechnya.
March 26: Israeli infant Shalhevet Pass is fatally shot in the head by a Palestinian sniper in Hebron.
June 1: 21 civilians, mostly teenagers from the former Soviet Union, are killed by a Hamas suicide bomber in the Dolphinarium massacre in Tel Aviv, Israel
August 2: The last (at time of writing) IRA bomb on mainland Britain explodes in Ealing, West London, though there are no injuries.
August 9: A suicide bomber in Jerusalem kills seven and wounds 130 in the Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing; Hamas and Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.
The attacks on September 11 killed 2,997 in a series of hijacked airliner crashes into two U.S. landmarks: the World Trade Center in New York City, New York, and The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. A fourth plane, originally intended to hit an unknown, but likely prominent, Washington, D.C. target, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, after an apparent revolt against the hijackers by the plane's passengers; by al-Qaeda
Paris embassy attack plot foiled.
October 1: A car bomb explodes near the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly in Srinagar, India killing 35 people and injuring 40 more.
October 17: Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi is assassinated by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
Anthrax attacks on the offices the United States Congress and New York State Government offices, and on employees of television networks and tabloid.
December 13: Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
Jewish Defense League plot to blow up the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, foiled.
December 22: Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb.
2002
Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
Singapore embassies attack plot foiled.
January: Kidnapping and murder of journalist Daniel Pearl.
March 27: A Palestinian suicide bomber kills 30 and injures 140 during Passover festivities in a hotel in Netanya, Israel in the Passover massacre.
March 31: A Hamas suicide bomber kills 15 and injures over 40 in Haifa, Israel, in the Matza restaurant massacre.
April 11: A natural gas truck fitted with explosives is driven into a synagogue in Tunisia by an al-Qaeda member, killing 21 and wounding more than 30 in the Ghriba Synagogue Attack.
May 8: May 8 Bus Attack in Karachi kills 11 Frenchmen and two Pakistanis.
May 9: A bomb explosion in Kaspiisk in Dagestan kills at least 42 people and injures 130 or more during Victory Day festivities.
May 13: 12 people are killed in the Jaunpur train crash in India, caused when Islamic extremists cut the rails.
June 14: Car bomb at US Consulate in Karachi kills 12.
June 18: A Hamas suicide bomber detonates himself on a bus in Jerusalem in the Patt junction massacre. The attack kills 19 people and wounds over 74.
July 4: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing 2 Israelis before being killed himself.
September 10: A train derailment in India kills 130 people in the Rafiganj rail disaster. Naxalite terrorism is suspected.
September 25: Two terrorists belonging to the Jaish-e-Mohammed group raid the Akshardham temple complex in Ahmedabad, India killing 30 people and injuring many more.
October: John Allen Muhammed and Lee Boyd Malvo conduct the Beltway Sniper Attacks, killing 10 people in various locations throughout the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area from October 2 until they are arrested on October 24.
October 6: Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen.
October 12: Bali bombing of holidaymakers kills 202 people, mostly Western tourists and local Balinese hospitality staff.
October 17: Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines kill six and wounds about 150.
October 18: A bus bomb in Manila kills three people and wounds 22.
October 19: A car bomb explodes outside a McDonald's Corp. restaurant in Moscow, killing one person and wounding five.
October 23: Moscow theater hostage crisis begins; 120 hostages and 40 terrorists killed in rescue three days later.
November 21: Hamas orchestrates the Jerusalem bus 20 massacre. 11 people are killed and over 50 wounded when a suicide bomber detonates on a crowded bus in central Jerusalem.
November 28: Kenyan hotel bombing.
December 21: Kurnool train crash, Islamic extremists derail a train and kill 20 people in India.
December 27: The truck bombing of the Chechen parliament in Grozny kills 83 people.
2003
One of the compounds hit by the Riyadh Compound Bombings.
Terrorism against Israel in 2003.
Suicide attacks in Iraq in 2003.
February 7: Car bomb kills 36 and injures 150 at the El Nogal nightclub in Bogotá, Colombia; FARC rebels are blamed.
March 4: Bomb attack in an airport in Davao kills 21.
March 5: A Hamas suicide bomber kills 17 people and wounds 53 when he detonates a bomb hidden under his clothing in the Haifa bus 37 massacre.
March 23: SGT Hasan Akbar, USA, murdered 2 officers and wounded 14 soldiers in a grenade attack at an Army base in Iraq.
May 12: Bombings of United States expatriate housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160 in the Riyadh Compound Bombings. Al-Qaeda blamed.
May 12: A truck bomb attack on a government building in the Chechen town of Znamenskoye kills 59.
May 14: As many as 16 die in a suicide bombing at a religious festival in southeastern Chechnya.
May 16: Casablanca Attacks by 12 bombers on five "Western and Jewish" targets in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead and over 100 injured. Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group.
July 5: 15 people die and 40 are injured in bomb attacks at a rock festival in Moscow.
August 1: An explosion at the Russian hospital in Mozdok in North Ossetia kills at least 50 people and injures 76.
August 19: Canal Hotel Bombing in Baghdad, Iraq, kills 22 people (including the top UN representative Sergio Vieira de Mello) and wounds over 100.
August 19: Jerusalem bus 2 massacre: A Hamas suicide bomber detonates himself on a crowded bus carrying mostly Orthodox Jewish Israelis, including many children returning from the Western Wall. 23 people are killed and over 130 wounded.
August 25: At least 48 people were killed and 150 injured in two blasts in south Mumbai - one near the Gateway of India at the other at the Zaveri Bazaar.
September 3: A bomb blast on a passenger train near Kislovodsk in southern Russia kills seven people and injures 90.
October 4: A Palestinian suicide bomber kills 21 and wounds 51 in a Haifa restaurant in the Maxim restaurant massacre.
October 15: A bomb is detonated by Palestinians against a US diplomatic convoy in the Gaza Strip, killing three Americans.
November 15 and November 20: Truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 57 and wounding 700 in the 2003 Istanbul Bombings.
December 5: Suicide bombers kill at least 46 people in an attack on a train in southern Russia
December 9: A blast in the center of Moscow kills six people and wounds at least 11.
2004
The scene of one of the Madrid bombings.
Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2004.
Suicide attacks in Iraq in 2004.
January 29: Jerusalem bus 19 massacre: Hamas and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades orchestrate a suicide bombing on a bus in Jerusalem, Israel killing 11 people and wounding more than 50.
February 6: Bomb on Moscow Metro kills 41.
February 27: Superferry 14 is bombed in the Philippines by Abu Sayyaf, killing 116.
March 2: Ashoura Massacre: Suicide bombings at Shia holy sites in Iraq kill 181 and wound more than 500 during the Ashura.
March 2: Attack on procession of Shia Muslims in Pakistan kills 43 and wounds 160. (See also: Ashoura Massacre in Iraq.)
March 9: Attack of Istanbul restaurant in Turkey.
March 11: Coordinated bombing of commuter trains in Madrid, Spain, kills 191 people and injures more than 1,500.
March 24: Israeli soldiers arrest Hussam Abdo, a 15 year-old Palestinian boy with explosives strapped to his chest at the Hawara Checkpoint. The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades sent Abdo on a suicide mission to bomb the checkpoint.
April 21: Bombing of a security building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills five.
May 1: 2004 Yanbu attack kills six Westerners and a Saudi in Saudi Arabia.
May 2: Pregnant Israeli commuter Tali Hatuel and her four young children are gunned down at close range by militants from the Popular Resistance Committees and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
May 29: Al-Khobar massacres, in which Islamic militants kill 22 people at an oil compound in Saudi Arabia.
August 24: Russian aircraft bombings kill 90.
August 31: A blast near a subway station entrance in northern Moscow, caused by a suicide bomber, kills 10 people and injures 33.
September 1 - 3: Beslan school hostage crisis in North Ossetia, Russia, results in 344 dead.
September 9: Jakarta embassy bombing, in which the Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia was bombed, killing eight people.
October 7: Sinai bombings: Three car bombs explode in the Sinai Peninsula, killing at least 34 and wounding 171, many of them Israeli and other foreign tourists.
December 6: Suspected al Qaeda-linked group attacks U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing five local employees.
December 12: A bombing at the Christmas market in General Santos, Philippines, kills 15.
2005
The wreckage of a London bus, following the July 7 attacks.
Suicide attacks in Iraq in 2005.
February 14: A car bomb kills former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri and 20 others in Beirut. See also: 2005 Lebanon bombings.
February 25: A suicide bomber in Tel Aviv kills five Israelis and undermines a weeks-old truce between the two sides.
March 19: Car bomb attack on theatre in Doha, Qatar, kills one Briton and wounds 12 others.
April: April 2005 terrorist attacks in Cairo - On April 7 a suicide bomber blows himself up in Cairo's Khan al Khalili market, killing three foreign tourists and wounding 17 others. In two further attacks on April 30, suspected accomplices detonate a bomb and spray a tourist coach with gunfire.
May 7: Multiple bomb explosions across Myanmar's capital Yangon kill 19 and injures 160.
June 1: A suicide bomber blows up in a mosque in Kandahar, Afghanistan, killing 20 people.
June 12: Bombs explode in the Iranian cities of Ahvaz and Tehran, leaving 10 dead and 80 wounded days before the Iranian presidential election.
July 5: 2005 Terrorist attack on Ayodhya - Six terrorists belonging to Lashkar-e-Toiba storm the Ayodhya Ram Janmbhomi complex in India. Before the terrorists could reach the main disputed site, they were shot down by Indian security forces. One devotee and two policemen were injured.
July 7: 7 July 2005 London bombings - Bombs explode on one double-decker bus and three London Underground trains, killing 56 people and injuring over 700, occurring on the first day of the 31st G8 Conference. The attacks are believed by many to be the first suicide bombings in Western Europe.
July 12: Islamic Jihad takes responsibility for a suicide bombing in Netanya, Israel, which kills five people at a shopping mall.
July 21: 21 July 2005 London bombings - Small explosions in three London Underground stations and one double-decker bus. This was pronounced as a "major incident" rather than an attack, and only minor injuries were reported. These 4 bombs were designed to cause as much damage as the 7 July 2005 London bombings, but the explosives had deteriorated and failed to detonate.
July 23: Sharm el-Sheikh bombings - Car bombs explode at tourist sites in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, killing at least 88 and wounding more than 100.
July 28: Jaunpur train bombing: 13 are killed when militants detonate a bomb on a communter train in India
August 4: Jewish settler in an IDF uniform opens fire on a bus in Shfaram, Israel, killing 4 Israeli Arabs and wounding 5.
August 17: 17 August 2005 Bangladesh bombings: Around 100 homemade bombs explode in 58 different locations in Bangladesh, killing two and wounding 100.
October 1: A series of explosions occurs in resort areas of Jimabaran Beach and Kuta in Bali, Indonesia.
October 13: A large group of Chechen rebels launched coordinated attacks on Russian federal buildings, local police stations, and the airport in Nalchik, Kabardino-Balkaria. At least 137 people, including 92 rebels, were killed.
October 15: Two bombs exploded at a shopping mall in Ahvaz, Khuzestan in Iran. Six people died and over 100 were injured.
October 24: Multiple car bombs explode outside the Green Zone in Baghdad, Iraq, killing at least 11. It is thought that the attacks were targeting journalists inside the Palestine Hotel and the Sheraton Ishtar. [3]
October 26: A Palestinian suicide bomber detonates a bomb near a falafel stand in Hadera, Israel that kills himself and six others. Twenty-six people were also wounded. [4]
October 29: Multiple bomb blasts hit markets in Delhi, India, leaving at least 61 dead and more than 200 injured.
November 9: Three explosions at hotels in Amman, Jordan, leave at least 60 dead and 120 wounded.
December 5: A suicide bomb attack kills at least five people in Netanya in north-western Israel.
December 28: Two or more unidentified gunmen open fire at the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India, killing a retired professor of mathematics and wounding four others.
2006
2006: Palestinian terrorists (Hamas) fire Qassam missiles into Israel, especially the cities of Ashkelon and Sderot, and have injured many citizens and caused civilian damage.
Suicide attacks in Iraq in 2006.
February 22: Al Askari Mosque bombing ignites sectarian strife in Iraq.
March 2: Bombing in Karachi, Pakistan kills four, including a U.S. diplomat.
March 3: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine.
March 7: Bombings in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi, India kill 28 and injure more than 100.
March 30: Palestinian suicide bomber kills himself and four others at Kedumim Junction in the West Bank [5][6]
April 11: A suicide bomber explodes himself in Karachi, Pakistan kills 57 Sunni worshippers. [7]
April 17: Sami Hammad, a Palestinian suicide bomber, detonates an explosive device in Tel Aviv, Israel, killing eleven people and injuring 70.
April 24: Bombings at three locations in Dahab, Egypt kill 20 Egyptians, 3 foreigners, and injure 62 others.
May 10: A motorcycle bomb explodes at a marketplace in Pattani, Thailand, killing two women and a police officer. [8]
May 11: Six policemen die and 12 are injured when five bombs go off in a police academy in Quetta, Pakistan [9]
June 15 : The LTTE detonate a claymore mine by a bus carrying 140 civilians in Sri Lanka. 68 civilians, including 10 children and 3 pregnant women, are killed. Approximately 60 civilians are injured.
The 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings
June 25: Eliyahu Asheri, an Israeli citizen, was kidnapped and murdered by the Palestinian terrorist group, the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC).
July 9: 40 Sunni civilians are massacred by Shia militants in Baghdad, Iraq.
July 11: A series of explosions rock commuter trains in Mumbai, India, killing at least 200. Approximately 700 civilians are injured.
July 14: Suicide bomber in Karachi, Pakistan kills a Shiite Islamic cleric Allama Hasan Turabi and his nephew.
July 16: Hezbollah rains rockets down on Northern Israel, reaching Haifa and killing eight Israelis at a train depot there.
July 17: Explosions and gunmen kill 48 people in a market in Mahmoudiya, Iraq [10]
July 18: Car bombing near a Shiite shrine in Kufa, Iraq kills 53 and injures 103. [11]
August 4: A suicide car bomber struck a market in Kandahar, Afghanistan killing 21 people
August 10: A major anti-terrorist operation disrupts a bomb plot targeting multiple airplanes flying through Heathrow Airport, near London, UK.
I read that most of you don't have passports, the majority have never read a book but really... are you all really that short sighted?
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Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-11-29 15:43:52 EST (#)
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Congratulations.
Submitted by Judgement (user info) at 2008-11-22 16:34:34 EST (#)
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No Comment
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Submitted by maf54 (user info) at 2008-05-14 05:02:03 EDT (#)
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Just to counter what that idiot Director did to you.
Submitted by Director (user info) at 2008-05-13 16:06:20 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by r0fl (user info) at 2006-08-19 20:10:26 EDT (#)
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People who list off terrorist attacks must be terrorists themselves.
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2006-08-19 19:52:42 EDT (#)
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Yes terrorisn happens outside of america, but none that matters.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2006-08-19 19:45:27 EDT (#)
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Fuck those foreign devils. Most are nothing but various sub species of gibberish speaking, Godless, shit eating apes.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-19 06:00:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:44:03 (#)
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that, and i don't think it's that we don't care about terrorist actions in other countries, it's more that we didn't feel like we were affected by it until 9/11. 9/11 wasn't just about a hatred of americans, it was about a hatred for western culture (as near as i can tell). the world is so much smaller now than it was fifty years ago, so global involvement in the fight against these organizations is imperative to global security and in the hope of global peace.
sorry this is piece meal, but i'm just typing as i'm thinking what pops into my head. now i'll read some of the reviews...
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Bang!.... the post was put up because of a comment made by another user who stated that if you looked back 10 years you'd be hard pressed to find a single terrorist attck that wasn't perpetrated by a muslim.
This was to highlight the fact that global terrorism operates on a scale far larger than I think MOST people realise.
It was deliberately aimed at baiting American people because there are a LOT of them who visit this site and I wanted to hear from as many people as possible.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-19 05:57:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:38:06 (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:09:07 (#)
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Have a pasport
Have travelled more than you
Am american
By default I am smarter, better looking and more wealthy than you
Also, lists and trite anti-American sentiment are fucking lame
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i didn't really see this post as being 'anti-american' necessarily, but that's just me.
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The post isn't anti american in any way, this Adan retard has so low intelligence that he can't even work that out.l
Sitting behind his screen making shit up...?? what is all that about for fucks sake?
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:38:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:09:07 (#)
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Have a pasport
Have travelled more than you
Am american
By default I am smarter, better looking and more wealthy than you
Also, lists and trite anti-American sentiment are fucking lame
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i didn't really see this post as being 'anti-american' necessarily, but that's just me.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:00:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:32:42 (#)
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By default I am smarter, better looking and more wealthy than you"""
No race has proven more stupid and uglier (fat and badly dressed).
As for wealth, it is so badly distributed that chances are that you're just a nigger.
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Point in case.
The canadian thinks that nationality and race are the same thing.
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:49:21 EDT (#)
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I don't want to contribute to your stupid list you ripped off of a google search.
You didn't leave a real question for me to answer, just some snobbish remark about me not traveling or reading.
I've never left the states because I have no money to do so. Does that mean I am some sort of uneducated hill billy? And for the little reading remark, that trend seems to be applicable towards all western countries. Apathetic youth exist outside of America.
Dumbass.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:44:03 EDT (#)
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that, and i don't think it's that we don't care about terrorist actions in other countries, it's more that we didn't feel like we were affected by it until 9/11. 9/11 wasn't just about a hatred of americans, it was about a hatred for western culture (as near as i can tell). the world is so much smaller now than it was fifty years ago, so global involvement in the fight against these organizations is imperative to global security and in the hope of global peace.
sorry this is piece meal, but i'm just typing as i'm thinking what pops into my head. now i'll read some of the reviews...
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:41:31 EDT (#)
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i think it has to do with the scope of the 9/11 attacks, and how they are so recent in our history. the british have been dealing with the IRA for decades, the israelis have been dealing with... well, pretty much since the beginning of time they've been getting fucked with by someone.
with us, it has been mostly few and far between until this last decade, and even then, it wasn't really ever on US soil. people never want to see 3000 people die in one day, no matter what the cause. they especially don't want to see it on national tv.
plus, the fact that it was a(seemingly) unprovoked act in a time of international peace, contributed to our country's anger.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:32:42 EDT (#)
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By default I am smarter, better looking and more wealthy than you"""
No race has proven more stupid and uglier (fat and badly dressed).
As for wealth, it is so badly distributed that chances are that you're just a nigger.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:31:43 EDT (#)
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americans are bad people
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:09:07 EDT (#)
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Have a pasport
Have travelled more than you
Am american
By default I am smarter, better looking and more wealthy than you
Also, lists and trite anti-American sentiment are fucking lame
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-18 11:10:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:18:22 (#)
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Of course I was aware of terrorism before 9/11. How do you expect to get anything except a negative rating for pasting some names and dates?
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You keep refering to the rating and I keep refering to your refusal to contribute anything other than 'dumbass'.
I didn't ask for a better rating.
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:18:22 EDT (#)
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Of course I was aware of terrorism before 9/11. How do you expect to get anything except a negative rating for pasting some names and dates?
Submitted by Bellebrown (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:06:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation.
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Yes, well you should have thought about that before you went all arsey and declared your own independance. You could have been part of the GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE and you went and ruined it for yourselves.
We hate to say we told you so - but we so totally did (wot wot).
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-18 03:30:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-18 00:57:34 (#)
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Well fucking seriously, you are insulting my intelligence.
Should I be in awe of your copy and paste job?
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Where did I say be in awe of it?
If you knew this info already say so. It's diffucult to understand the meaning of your first review when you use high school language.
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-18 00:57:34 EDT (#)
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Well fucking seriously, you are insulting my intelligence.
Should I be in awe of your copy and paste job?
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-17 15:21:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-08-17 13:49:22 (#)
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Didn't even realize anything outside the US existed, thanks for helping me out.
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-17 11:07:47 (#)
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you really opened my eyes, dumbass.
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Awsome insight chumps. Are you two related?
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2006-08-17 14:16:26 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-17 14:03:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-08-17 13:49:22 (#)
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Didn't even realize anything outside the US existed, thanks for helping me out.
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Fleeting attempt at comedy... horrific social commentary.
The majority of you ignorant fuckers should recieve a good solid beating for being so easily distracted, apathetic, and just downright stupid.
You sure do make good TV though... yay Benji!
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-08-17 13:49:22 EDT (#)
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Didn't even realize anything outside the US existed, thanks for helping me out.
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2006-08-17 11:07:47 EDT (#)
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you really opened my eyes, dumbass.
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-08-16 22:02:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 19:23:57 (#)
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-08-16 13:59:51 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:00:15 (#)
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Ha !!!! I'mk more pissed than I think.
where is badasjulie when you want an internet hjandjob??
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Hmm, I don't quite know what to say to that one.
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Sorry...sorry for suggesting that I'd only want a handjob from you when I was pissed.
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It's ok, I forgive you.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 19:23:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-08-16 13:59:51 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:00:15 (#)
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Ha !!!! I'mk more pissed than I think.
where is badasjulie when you want an internet hjandjob??
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Hmm, I don't quite know what to say to that one.
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Sorry...sorry for suggesting that I'd only want a handjob from you when I was pissed.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 19:23:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 18:36:49 (#)
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I gotta get back to you tomorrow (UK) it's midnight here and i've got work in the AM.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 18:36:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 11:22:35 (#)
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Granted...I was talking specifically about my government but I guess what I mean is any government from a civilised nation.
I want to feel that there isn't the need to listen to ALL the conversations in able to catch a FEW criminals.
Aren't our intelligence and anti terror poliss the best there is? Don't they know WHO are the terrorists and who are not?
There was word all the time the IRA were bombing and assassinating that the British Army KNEW each and every member.
Yet now, in this modern world we have to blanket all calls.
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That is the thing they aren't listening to all calls it would be impossible.
They have a guess where terrorists call, and I ams ure some regular people call the same places.
Lets say that a mosque or charity in Pakistan was suspected of being used as a cover for funneling terrorist money. Lets say that the US wanted to monitor calls to it, should they not do it bbecause innocent americans may call? I don't see a legal obligation for the US not to. And I really don't see a moral one (since they have no duty to foreigners, and US citizens have no guarantee of privacy from the US in other countries). I could see why people wouldn't agree, and I do have mixed feelings sometimes.
I think the IRA is a different story because of how much they were intertwined, how close they were, and how similiar the societies were.
I don't think all calls are blanketed, but we have to search a lot harder then we used to if we are looking for plots against us that start in other countries.
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-08-16 13:59:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:00:15 (#)
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Ha !!!! I'mk more pissed than I think.
where is badasjulie when you want an internet hjandjob??
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Hmm, I don't quite know what to say to that one.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 11:22:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 10:23:05 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:54:31 (#)
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Now, I have a real issue with my government, your government, or any fucker for that matter listening into my conversations or looking at my money transfers.
Of course there is the argument that if you are innocent and have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about but I say bullshit to that.
The fact that I AM innocent dictates that my phone and bank goings on are MY BUSINESS ALONE.
I'd rather live in a world ..and I say this honestly... whereby I'm threatened by terrorist strikes that have my privacy invaded because I live under a paranoid ineffective government.
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I agree with you if you are talking about purely domestic conversations/phone transfers etc (whiich I don't think you are). Once it leaves the country your govt can't promise you privacy because they aren't the only group involved.
Do you have a problem with your country spying? Would you have a problem with your govt spying on a conversation between someoen in afghanistan and pakistan, I don't (you might, so my argument probably doesn't work for you). If you accept that, I think you have to accept that any conversation you have outside the country could be listened to.
Granted...I was talking specifically about my government but I guess what I mean is any government from a civilised nation.
I want to feel that there isn't the need to listen to ALL the conversations in able to catch a FEW criminals.
Aren't our intelligence and anti terror poliss the best there is? Don't they know WHO are the terrorists and who are not?
There was word all the time the IRA were bombing and assassinating that the British Army KNEW each and every member.
Yet now, in this modern world we have to blanket all calls.
I also accept that if I was to travel to Russia, Mexico, Pakistan etc and so on.. that yes, in most likelihood there is a serious risk that many of the privacies that I know are protected in my country may not be there.
However I do not live in one of those countries and it is their governments that carry out listening operations.
I'm disappointed (or I would be) that MY government does it.
*being a complete hypocrite..I do want my government to listen to conversations between terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan talking about blowing up train/bus.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 10:23:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:54:31 (#)
Ranking: 0
Now, I have a real issue with my government, your government, or any fucker for that matter listening into my conversations or looking at my money transfers.
Of course there is the argument that if you are innocent and have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about but I say bullshit to that.
The fact that I AM innocent dictates that my phone and bank goings on are MY BUSINESS ALONE.
I'd rather live in a world ..and I say this honestly... whereby I'm threatened by terrorist strikes that have my privacy invaded because I live under a paranoid ineffective government.
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I agree with you if you are talking about purely domestic conversations/phone transfers etc (whiich I don't think you are). Once it leaves the country your govt can't promise you privacy because they aren't the only group involved.
Do you have a problem with your country spying? Would you have a problem with your govt spying on a conversation between someoen in afghanistan and pakistan, I don't (you might, so my argument probably doesn't work for you). If you accept that, I think you have to accept that any conversation you have outside the country could be listened to.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:55:27 EDT (#)
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*than* have my privacy invaded because I live under a paranoid ineffective government
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:54:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:46:50 (#)
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"Our left criticized George W. Bush when the New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al Qaeda suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears the United States surveilled the British terrorists, who made phone calls to the United States. The left cried foul when the New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against Mr. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives."
Completely off topic, but I am too busy to post.
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I think the writer may have been jumping to conclusions, unless he know something I don't, brcause I haven't heard of US involvement.
However they were caught using tactics that Bush is getting blasted for trying.
I have no problem listening to phone calls outside of the US, I don't think you should have the same expectation of privacy for international as domestic calls. I also have no problem tracking international money transfers.
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Now, I have a real issue with my government, your government, or any fucker for that matter listening into my conversations or looking at my money transfers.
Of course there is the argument that if you are innocent and have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about but I say bullshit to that.
The fact that I AM innocent dictates that my phone and bank goings on are MY BUSINESS ALONE.
I'd rather live in a world ..and I say this honestly... whereby I'm threatened by terrorist strikes that have my privacy invaded because I live under a paranoid ineffective government.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 09:46:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 08:58:42 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 07:29:22 (#)
Ranking: 2
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060814-100813-6424r.htm
"Our left criticized George W. Bush when the New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al Qaeda suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears the United States surveilled the British terrorists, who made phone calls to the United States. The left cried foul when the New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against Mr. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives."
Completely off topic, but I am too busy to post.
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You agree with this action or disagree?
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I think the writer may have been jumping to conclusions, unless he know something I don't, brcause I haven't heard of US involvement.
However they were caught using tactics that Bush is getting blasted for trying.
I have no problem listening to phone calls outside of the US, I don't think you should have the same expectation of privacy for international as domestic calls. I also have no problem tracking international money transfers.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 08:58:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 07:29:22 (#)
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http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060814-100813-6424r.htm
"Our left criticized George W. Bush when the New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al Qaeda suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears the United States surveilled the British terrorists, who made phone calls to the United States. The left cried foul when the New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against Mr. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives."
Completely off topic, but I am too busy to post.
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You agree with this action or disagree?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-16 07:29:22 EDT (#)
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http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060814-100813-6424r.htm
"Our left criticized George W. Bush when the New York Times revealed that the National Security Agency was surveilling telephone calls from al Qaeda suspects overseas to the United States. Now it appears the United States surveilled the British terrorists, who made phone calls to the United States. The left cried foul when the New York Times revealed that the United States was monitoring money transfers at the SWIFT bank clearinghouse in Brussels. Now it appears there was monitoring of money transfers by the British terrorists in Pakistan. On Tuesday, the left was gleeful that it was scoring political points against Mr. Bush. On Thursday, it seemed the supposedly controversial NSA surveillance contributed to savings thousands of lives."
Completely off topic, but I am too busy to post.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-16 04:26:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Flying_buttmonkey (user info) at 2006-08-16 03:19:45 (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
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Can I just point out that the citizens of your utopian society are constantly shooting each other and blasting away their schools. That's all you.
All. You.
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But that is everyday occurance...you become blase to it after a while I assume.
Submitted by Flying_buttmonkey (user info) at 2006-08-16 03:19:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
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Can I just point out that the citizens of your utopian society are constantly shooting each other and blasting away their schools. That's all you.
All. You.
Submitted by fun_with_needles (user info) at 2006-08-16 01:46:41 EDT (#)
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So what?
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:43:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
dhhhhhhhhjhfwlllqqqqqqqqqqqqqegfvbbbbbbbbb
Teddy Sherringham is playing poah on my telkky but I must gi to bed, Night alll.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:38:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:00:15 (#)
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Ha !!!! I'mk more pissed than I think.
where is badasjulie when you want an internet hjandjob??
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...he submits and then promptly passes out on his keyboard.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 19:00:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:58:51 (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:54:58 (#)
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...GET A FUCKING LIFE COCK SNORKERLER.
hehe... how many pints did you have B? That is the drunkest insult I have ever read.
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seven of Coldsberg Cold,,, in *looks at watch*...... 3 hiours !!!
Plus lost at darts. Bah.
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Ha !!!! I'mk more pissed than I think.
where is badasjulie when you want an internet hjandjob??
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:58:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:54:58 (#)
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...GET A FUCKING LIFE COCK SNORKERLER.
hehe... how many pints did you have B? That is the drunkest insult I have ever read.
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seven of Coldsberg Cold,,, in *looks at watch*...... 3 hiours !!!
Plus lost at darts. Bah.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:54:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
...GET A FUCKING LIFE COCK SNORKERLER.
hehe... how many pints did you have B? That is the drunkest insult I have ever read.
Submitted by dr_weazel (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:54:34 EDT (#)
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+2 for the interesting debate.
Christ, I wish I could -2 ETS for his reviews though. That mother-fucker needs to lay off the crack. I mean, I really cant believe anyone could be as bat-shit crazy as that cunt.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:51:18 EDT (#)
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The fact is, this motherfucker hasn't earned a goddamn bit of my respect. He has consistently ridiculed me when I've tried to have intelligent discussions with people, so I have given him the respect he deserves - NONE.
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AND (OK i'm pissed...)... show me?
You are so singular minded that anyone who questions your beleifs are deemed to 'show you no respect'.
I -2 you because i think you are unwilling to discuss issues beyond your comprehension.
You -2 me because i didn't 'show you respect'.
GET A FUCKING LIFE COCK SNORKERLER.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:46:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by livEvil (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:50:33 (#)
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It does go far beyond the USA but the thing is, we don't give a shit. As long as we protect our best interest, fuck the rest. It's called survival of the fittest. Why do you think there are so many countries that hate us yet come out of our skirts every time we need them? Once again, TO PROTECT THEIR BEST INTEREST.
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That is what the whole thread is about,..... don't make me generalise? Americans.. to the best of my knowledge don't give a fuck about deaths abroad, caused by terrorism, killing children... you only care about yourselves. Motherfuckers.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 18:43:56 EDT (#)
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You're damn right, respect is earned, which is why I dropped the -2 in the first fucking place. But you took it upon yourself to "slap me on the wrist" for it.
The fact is, this motherfucker hasn't earned a goddamn bit of my respect. He has consistently ridiculed me when I've tried to have intelligent discussions with people, so I have given him the respect he deserves - NONE.
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ETS call me a motherfucker...all that does is minimise your input to this thread.
I tried talking to you, I tried discussing issues. Where are you then?
Hit me with a question?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-08-15 17:21:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:09:11 (#)
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if it doesn't happen in America...its not really a tragedy
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lol
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 17:12:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:27:19 (#)
Ranking: 2
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Like I said, stick with what you are good at. I would try and be productive but it would just show my actual lack of any sort of intellectual insight. I am not super political but I am more right wing than left, unless we are talking the legalization of my friend Mary...
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OK now that is a cause we can certainly agree on!
As far as left wing / right wing... here is what I think about that: http://www.ubersite.com/m/90711
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:39:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:05:43 (#)
Ranking: 2
Try leading with helpful, polite, and civilized... it can always devolve from there. But if you start out being a dick, its only going to continue downhill from there.
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I've often found that the opposite is true.
Getting the bickering out of the way and getting to the real meat of the matter eventually leads to a tenuous agreement to disagree, or an eventual concession of wrongness.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:27:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:22:19 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:15:38 (#)
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Like me, I am usually counter productive but hey, stick at what you are good at right??
At least you and ETS arnet fighting any more robbie, i hope you two can still spoon after your first fight...
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You ARE usually counter-productive, distractive, and fairly annoying. But you are occasionally entertaining and a fellow Canadian so that goes along way with me.
And yes, you are very good at being an ass.
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Like I said, stick with what you are good at. I would try and be productive but it would just show my actual lack of any sort of intellectual insight. I am not super political but I am more right wing than left, unless we are talking the legalization of my friend Mary...
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:22:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:15:38 (#)
Ranking: 2
Like me, I am usually counter productive but hey, stick at what you are good at right??
At least you and ETS arnet fighting any more robbie, i hope you two can still spoon after your first fight...
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You ARE usually counter-productive, distractive, and fairly annoying. But you are occasionally entertaining and a fellow Canadian so that goes along way with me.
And yes, you are very good at being an ass.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:19:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:15:38 (#)
Ranking: 2
Like me, I am usually counter productive but hey, stick at what you are good at right??
At least you and ETS arnet fighting any more robbie, i hope you two can still spoon after your first fight...
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Only if I can be the little spoon!
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:15:38 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Like me, I am usually counter productive but hey, stick at what you are good at right??
At least you and ETS arnet fighting any more robbie, i hope you two can still spoon after your first fight...
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:12:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:59:21 (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:54:43 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
Ranking: -2
...I don't owe any of you motherfuckers jack shit.
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You are right, of course.
You don't owe anyone anything.
Just keep in mind that Respect is earned and I can clearly see that no one owes you much either.
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You're damn right, respect is earned, which is why I dropped the -2 in the first fucking place. But you took it upon yourself to "slap me on the wrist" for it.
The fact is, this motherfucker hasn't earned a goddamn bit of my respect. He has consistently ridiculed me when I've tried to have intelligent discussions with people, so I have given him the respect he deserves - NONE.
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It's not all about you. There are other people who are involved in the conversation, you know.
Have respect for them, then. I have certainly shown you a tremendous amount of respect, others I am sure have similar claims - you don't need to come in to the conversation just to be disruptive do you? I mean you have every right to be an asshole, god knows there are enough of them trolling around this site, but wouldn't it be swell to just have a calm, rational discussion sometimes?
hmmm?
At least respect the discourse, if not the person who began it.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 15:05:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:54:51 (#)
Ranking: -2
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Seriously dude, you are alarmingly bi-polar.
I give you a slap on the wrist and you flip out? Nice work.
I like my high horse, I certainly won't get off it because you tell me to. (...and I will certainly not shove any of your crap up my ass, gross!)
If you want to categorically shoot yourself in the foot each time you happen to run into a conversation that you didn't start and act like a dipshit that's fine by me.
All you prove is that you are no better than the trolls that pollute your discussions and ultimately continue your utter marginalization around this place, and I suspect in life.
Perhaps you enjoy pushing a wet rope up a hill? Perhaps you just enjoy the drama?
I have certainly been wrong about people before... I had been somewhat convinced your intentions were much more pure than just straight attention whorishness, but I am decidedly uncertain now.
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I wasn't talking to you.
...and, a slap on the wrist??? Is that what that was? Oh, thank you. I didn't know I'd gotten out of line.
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You weren't?
um...
Well don't I feel like the fucking asshole.
Fine. I take back the bi-polar comment, and feel suitably retarded for jumping to conclusions.
I just get twitchy when people I like say "FUCK YOU". My bad.
Still, most of the point remains. I did chastize you, becuase I think you have so much more to offer to the conversation than just acting like an ass.
Try leading with helpful, polite, and civilized... it can always devolve from there. But if you start out being a dick, its only going to continue downhill from there.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:59:21 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:54:43 (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
Ranking: -2
...I don't owe any of you motherfuckers jack shit.
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You are right, of course.
You don't owe anyone anything.
Just keep in mind that Respect is earned and I can clearly see that no one owes you much either.
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You're damn right, respect is earned, which is why I dropped the -2 in the first fucking place. But you took it upon yourself to "slap me on the wrist" for it.
The fact is, this motherfucker hasn't earned a goddamn bit of my respect. He has consistently ridiculed me when I've tried to have intelligent discussions with people, so I have given him the respect he deserves - NONE.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:54:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:47:02 (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:30:11 (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:11:32 (#)
Ranking: 0
ubmitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:28:59 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
Ranking: -2
Horray for inaccurate information.
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WHAT?
Are you fucking kidding me?
There is a civilized, intelligent, rational discourse going on over here and you have the audacity to skip in and drop this little distractive bit of nonsense?
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FUCK YOU, buddy.
I'm merely returning the favor you give me everytime I post anything at all. You have NO BUSINESS on your sudden high horse.
Shove it up your ass.
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Seriously dude, you are alarmingly bi-polar.
I give you a slap on the wrist and you flip out? Nice work.
I like my high horse, I certainly won't get off it because you tell me to. (...and I will certainly not shove any of your crap up my ass, gross!)
If you want to categorically shoot yourself in the foot each time you happen to run into a conversation that you didn't start and act like a dipshit that's fine by me.
All you prove is that you are no better than the trolls that pollute your discussions and ultimately continue your utter marginalization around this place, and I suspect in life.
Perhaps you enjoy pushing a wet rope up a hill? Perhaps you just enjoy the drama?
I have certainly been wrong about people before... I had been somewhat convinced your intentions were much more pure than just straight attention whorishness, but I am decidedly uncertain now.
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I wasn't talking to you.
...and, a slap on the wrist??? Is that what that was? Oh, thank you. I didn't know I'd gotten out of line.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:54:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
Ranking: -2
...I don't owe any of you motherfuckers jack shit.
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You are right, of course.
You don't owe anyone anything.
Just keep in mind that Respect is earned and I can clearly see that no one owes you much either.
Submitted by SmartisSexy (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:50:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Do you have to act like every last American is a fucking dolt? Yes, a huge amount of them are uncultured and mentally retarded, but there are those of us who reside in blue states.
Submitted by livEvil (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:50:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
It does go far beyond the USA but the thing is, we don't give a shit. As long as we protect our best interest, fuck the rest. It's called survival of the fittest. Why do you think there are so many countries that hate us yet come out of our skirts every time we need them? Once again, TO PROTECT THEIR BEST INTEREST.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:47:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:40:54 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:39:48 (#)
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Recipe for an ETS review:
ctrl 'c'
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post reply
Rinse and Repeat.
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The man is entitled to his opinion... or at least the opinion that the lastest conspiracy web page tells him to have.
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Interesting view since you're the one who just posted a copy/paste.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:47:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:30:11 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:11:32 (#)
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ubmitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:28:59 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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WHAT?
Are you fucking kidding me?
There is a civilized, intelligent, rational discourse going on over here and you have the audacity to skip in and drop this little distractive bit of nonsense?
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FUCK YOU, buddy.
I'm merely returning the favor you give me everytime I post anything at all. You have NO BUSINESS on your sudden high horse.
Shove it up your ass.
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Seriously dude, you are alarmingly bi-polar.
I give you a slap on the wrist and you flip out? Nice work.
I like my high horse, I certainly won't get off it because you tell me to. (...and I will certainly not shove any of your crap up my ass, gross!)
If you want to categorically shoot yourself in the foot each time you happen to run into a conversation that you didn't start and act like a dipshit that's fine by me.
All you prove is that you are no better than the trolls that pollute your discussions and ultimately continue your utter marginalization around this place, and I suspect in life.
Perhaps you enjoy pushing a wet rope up a hill? Perhaps you just enjoy the drama?
I have certainly been wrong about people before... I had been somewhat convinced your intentions were much more pure than just straight attention whorishness, but I am decidedly uncertain now.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:46:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:29:49 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
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ETS come on man, if you are going to supply opinion...why? If you are going to act like what you are saying is fact, then show proof but to drop in on a conversation and just say, essentially, 'you stupid idiots the government did it' is ludicrous and childish.
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I've given PLENTY of proof in my time here. I shouldn't have to repeat my fucking self over and over.
Plus, I quit smoking yesterday, and right now I don't owe any of you motherfuckers jack shit.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:42:24 EDT (#)
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I gotta go to the pub, be back later.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:42:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:40:54 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:39:48 (#)
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Recipe for an ETS review:
ctrl 'c'
ctrl 'v'
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post reply
Rinse and Repeat.
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The man is entitled to his opinion... or at least the opinion that the lastest conspiracy web page tells him to have.
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HAHAHHAHAHAH
AMEN REVEREND
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:40:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:39:48 (#)
Ranking: 2
Recipe for an ETS review:
ctrl 'c'
ctrl 'v'
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post reply
Rinse and Repeat.
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The man is entitled to his opinion... or at least the opinion that the lastest conspiracy web page tells him to have.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:39:48 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Recipe for an ETS review:
ctrl 'c'
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post reply
Rinse and Repeat.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:38:31 EDT (#)
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ETS
It's at least nice to know that you think that much of me that you bookmark my reviews.
But all you are doing is highlighting each and every time I caught you talking comolete shite.
Why would you want to do that?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:37:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-17 11:12:18 (#)
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Forget my countries policies (of which I disagree) and ease at which we stood by yours when they went to war(of which I disagreed). What I don't like to see is someone suggesting that Britain is a cowardly nation who somehow goaded the US into going to war and then slipped out of the side entrance.
That is just plain bullshit.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:37:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-07-17 14:28:16 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-17 09:15:54 (#)
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How fucking dare you insult a country who has had young men die while fighting some cock arse war that your wanker leaders made up?
As for too pussy to start our own fights?...man I seem to recall you boys didn't complaint when you started a war against the whole fucking world (or at the least an invisible and unidentifiable group of people) and we came running to your aid.
You arrogant cunt.
And if that last paragraph is supposed to suggest that we have slipped out the side door while you continue to bravely fight evil then again...you are a sad excuse of a human being.
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Why shouldn't he criticise a country that has young men die because they bought into a war that some other country's leaders made up? That's a pretty fucking excellent reason to criticise a country to my mind.
We have sold our own soldiers down the river just so we can cuddle a bit closer to america in the hopes of getting a handout. You know this to be true - we (and I'm referring to brits here) all do. If you find it offensive that's because it IS offensive - it's fucking outrageous and we should be making sure our politicians know it.
There is no need to get upset with someone pointing out our wrongdoing just because that person happens to be american. We're not the guy in the white hat here and you'll notice any criticism of england he makes does not even come close to the bile that he spits at his own country.
Ease off the national pride a little bit - we don't have much justification for it at this moment in time.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:36:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 03:56:32 (#)
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Why shouldn't he criticise a country that has young men die because they bought into a war that some other country's leaders made up? That's a pretty fucking excellent reason to criticise a country to my mind.
We have sold our own soldiers down the river just so we can cuddle a bit closer to america in the hopes of getting a handout. You know this to be true - we (and I'm referring to brits here) all do. If you find it offensive that's because it IS offensive - it's fucking outrageous and we should be making sure our politicians know it.
There is no need to get upset with someone pointing out our wrongdoing just because that person happens to be american. We're not the guy in the white hat here and you'll notice any criticism of england he makes does not even come close to the bile that he spits at his own country.
Ease off the national pride a little bit - we don't have much justification for it at this moment in time
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Fuck you too.
Why can't anyone get over the political shit that he and you are spurting. I pointed this out from the off.... Listen to me because I'm going to say it again.
I agree with what he says in general. OK, I don't like the administration either. But...But...this is the important bit.
Making a sweeping statement that the 'country is cowardly' and is trying to 'slip out the back door' is plain fucking stupid.
Do not tar me with the same brush you tar Tony Blair.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:35:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:30:37 (#)
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Dude... I don't care why you are -2'ing this and I don't need reminding that I pointed out your contradiction on your last post.
Get involved with the discussion or fuck off.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:35:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 04:02:07 (#)
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Hey Mr. Beano
So let me get this straight: you don't like that someone has allegorically painted your little island as cowards, consistently provides pages of writen material that he considers reference for you to refute and then intelligently defends his position against not only an onslaught of negative pricks that simply don't like him because the think he is fucking nuts- or people like you who without doing the requisite research dismiss what he is saying based ONLY on the way he says it?
Thats kinda sad don't you think?
I don't know about you... but the more I read his links, and watch the movies that get sent out... the more I at least question the possibility of this "radical theory" that there is at least some significant global puppeteering going on.
Now, personally I don't think it as insidious and successful as Mr. Tooth seems to >KNOW< it is (I tend to think things are a little more random than that.) - and I don't think the sky is falling quite as fast as he would suggest it might be... but if you give his arguments and the source material even a fleeting chance- it does contain some pretty compelling elements to suggest there is FAR more going on that us ignorant masses care to know about.
Perhaps someone yelling "WAKE THE FUCK UP!" isn't all that polite... but why don't we pretend it is really more like a gentle nudge and a tactful "you know its really time we started to pay a little more attention to some of the more questionable things that are going on every day that we either dismiss completely, largely ignore or acknowledge but can't be bothered to do anything about"... and then carry on the discussion.
"Wake the fuck up" is just easier... and largely appropriate.
r.
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-07-17 14:07:15 (#)
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Alright rob, you can take off the tights and cape, palooka. Brad doesn't need you to swoop in and defend his views from those who disagree with them; he's perfectly capable of doing so on his own.
A lot of people here don't have a problem with Brad's theories per se; it's the way he presents and defends them. As such, more users come to his posts to argue with him and he in turn gets more exposure for his ideas, so it abstractly works out positively for him this way.
So, you can strap your reviews with all the intelligence you like but when you slip a juvenile insult like calling his detractors "pricks", you lose the point of why he posts these things here in the first place. You're defending his and your own opinions (key word) while quasi-sophmorically dismissing others, revealing your inherent piety and thus undermining the value of the point you try to make.
At least Brad is entertaining in his defenses, while yours bores me shitless (there's that pesky opinion thing again).
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Rob I think SilvrWolf replied to you far better than I am capable of.
I am capable of only this.
Fuck you.
Why don't to you read what I wrote and not get so tangle up in his theories and poking your dick up his arse?
All this 'I don't know about you but the more I read etc etc....'
I have said this before and will say it again (fucking hell...talk about repeat yourself!). I READ MOST OF WHAT Brad spouts on here 2 maybe three years ago...I read, I asses and I decide what to believe. I then tuck my ideas and thoughts away and don't throw them down other people's throats.
My whole issue is the infantile way he called my country cowards and accused us of sliding out of the back door.
I fucking wish we had slid out of the back door. I wish we'd never got involved in the first place. What I am saying is that making general sweeping statements about a nation or a country has to be false.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:33:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 04:55:15 (#)
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Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-07-18 01:44:32 (#)
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Who cares about a bunch of dead arabs?
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Here here !!
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-07-18 02:26:48 (#)
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I have no pity on you because you had a choice, and you've made it.
Now, I am done with you, sir. When the tides of war finally arrive at your doorstep, you will fall to your knees and beg for God to save your sorry ass - you who have done nothing but deny him all your life - and you know what...even then, He'll listen.
But I'm not God, and I don't have to listen to your fucking shit, so fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
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You finally lost it bro.
If you wanna bang on about history repeating itself...go back further than 1930/1940.
We have been killing one another for centuries.
My ancestors survived si what the fuck do I care who died?
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:33:11 EDT (#)
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Was the purpose of that little cut and paste to prove my earlier point correct crazymansyndrome?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:32:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-07-18 11:10:56 (#)
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OMG...you seriously just claimed they were not all 'real' christians but only claimed to be christians....
Man, you could argue that black is white.
You'll be pleased to hear that you'll hear no more from me on one of your posts.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:30:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:58:31 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:30:55 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:20:09 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:12:51 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:07:07 (#)
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Why in the hell has it gotta be all or nothing with you people all the time!?
I never said anyone was "egging anyone on". All I said was it was beneficial NOT to stop him.
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Oh but look !!!! LOL LOL
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-14 17:02:37 (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-14 16:55:37 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-14 16:39:54 (#)
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As for the U.K.*****making******* Hitler invade Poland... This isn't entirely untrue. Of course, no one MADE Hitler invade Poland, but businessmen in both the U.S. and the U.K. profited off Hitler's actions, including Bush's grandfather, Prescott. All of this is well documented now.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:30:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:11:32 (#)
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ubmitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:28:59 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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WHAT?
Are you fucking kidding me?
There is a civilized, intelligent, rational discourse going on over here and you have the audacity to skip in and drop this little distractive bit of nonsense?
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FUCK YOU, buddy.
I'm merely returning the favor you give me everytime I post anything at all. You have NO BUSINESS on your sudden high horse.
Shove it up your ass.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:29:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
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ETS come on man, if you are going to supply opinion...why? If you are going to act like what you are saying is fact, then show proof but to drop in on a conversation and just say, essentially, 'you stupid idiots the government did it' is ludicrous and childish.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:28:24 EDT (#)
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ets, you fucking boggle the mind.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:25:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:50:32 (#)
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That sure is a pretty list that you posted.
Terrorism is a tactic of war, not a criminal act.
In 1993, the same group of islamic nutjobs tried to blow up the WTC with vans full of explosives in the underground parking. It was treated as a crime. Great. Five religious fanatics are off the street.
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hahahahahahahaha
How someone can be sooooo close to the real truth and yet so far away is amazing to me.
It boggles the mind.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 14:11:32 EDT (#)
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ubmitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:28:59 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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WHAT?
Are you fucking kidding me?
There is a civilized, intelligent, rational discourse going on over here and you have the audacity to skip in and drop this little distractive bit of nonsense?
I call bullshit, fella.
If you are going to take the time to wander over from the chaos that is your conversation (as oftentimes interesting and fascinating as I find them) at least try to be fucking helpful, or in some-way meaningful to the discussion taking place over here.
It is exactly this kind of childish idiocy that ensures your complete marginalization amongst the people who agree with most of what you say. Your insistence on acting petty and stupid only erodes your credibility and will eventually leave you all alone on your worn out soap box.
Grow up and actually try to contribute positively - even if it wasn't started by you- or simply fuck off.
It's that simple. It is the same thing I tell all the trolls that come along to muddy up these conversations, ironic someone needs to tell you that as well.
Beano - great job on the post dude. Very enjoyable! Lots of great comments.
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Cherrs.
perhaps i'll get all poitical and defensive from now on.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:55:15 EDT (#)
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+2 for promoting an interesting and calm discussion
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:48:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
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He's just pissed because he knows this is correct.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:47:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:19:47 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:06:09 (#)
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1995 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded
2002 - 2 Marines shot, 1 killed in Kuwait
2004 - Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004
don't the above few not fall into murder/assasination acts not terrorist acts?
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I thought you were going to go for the USS cole bombing.
You have a point, but at the heart of every "terrorist" attack you have simpler crimes. I think these can be defined as terrorist because of the reasons for the killings and who he killers were working with (i am amking assumptions here because I don't know the circunstances surrounding all of these).
If someone from the IRA killed a british official, it would be murder, but I think they would also qualify it as a terrorist act.
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For sure they would, and they'd use the prevention of terrorism act to allow them more time to plant all the the evidence they needed to put them away.
I guess I see terrorism as an attempt to cause large scale fear and death.
When Ken Bigley (GRHS) was killed I didn't see that as a terrorist act for some reason. Just fundamentalists killing someone to make a point/get people released.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:44:02 EDT (#)
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ubmitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:24:32 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:09:45 (#)
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You wait till he find out where I got this information he so quickly labelled inaccurate...he's been known to reference this source himself when the data suits him.
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haha, what was the source?
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Wipikedia... I KNOW he's used that before now.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:42:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
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But surely by definition acts of terrorism?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:42:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
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Oh really?
Well define terror then.
Define terrorist.
When your best freind is mutilated by a bomb, or your kid brother is crushed in the resulting debris of one of these 'staged black ops'... how is that not being terrorized?
That is just a silly argument, you can do much better than that.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:43 EDT (#)
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It's inaccurate simply because these aren't all terrorist attacks. Many are staged government black ops.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:36:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:34:42 (#)
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Beano- Congratulations!
You now have rob_berg fagging up your post.
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And just look how quickly you came a-running when you smelled a whiff of fag...
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:35:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:32:36 (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:38:29 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there.
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand. I know that Americans seem to think the world begins in New York and Ends at Los Angeles. I have been to France and talked to young people who HATE us. I have seen the "DOWN WITH BUSH" graffiti in Italy (Because "Bush" is recognizable in any language) and I know that people in the rest of the world say "Congrats you got hit once. We've been getting hit for a century."
American's would NEVER point out the real reason that 9/11, for all of the death toll had one key difference. The buildings were extremely expensive.
I know that sounds awful, but not only did we lose thousands of people, we just had our two best toys destroyed. And we can't look beyond that.
I bet if you counted up all of multiple small attacks done in other countries it would add up to 9/11 (I'm not talking about the whole world, I mean like the attacks from Spain added up, the attacks from Britain added up) but none of them singularly adds up to 9/11, which makes us feel we can go to our more "civilized" friends and say:
US: Hey guys look at this battle scar. This sucks. Let's go kick some ass because of it!
Britain: Uh.... *doesn't bring up scars of their own* alright fine let's go.
I know that the rest of the world has been enduring this. I know that this is nothing new. But as a collective, when the stress in your life is what to buy at Wal Mart with your latest pay raise, it is shocking to be hurt like that.
I'm not trying to give excuses, this is just how I believe it works.
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...fantastic. Just...
wow. Very well put. That kind of observation is simply fucking golden. Bravo. ""
I agree.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:34:42 EDT (#)
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Beano- Congratulations!
You now have rob_berg fagging up your post.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:32:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:38:29 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there.
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand. I know that Americans seem to think the world begins in New York and Ends at Los Angeles. I have been to France and talked to young people who HATE us. I have seen the "DOWN WITH BUSH" graffiti in Italy (Because "Bush" is recognizable in any language) and I know that people in the rest of the world say "Congrats you got hit once. We've been getting hit for a century."
American's would NEVER point out the real reason that 9/11, for all of the death toll had one key difference. The buildings were extremely expensive.
I know that sounds awful, but not only did we lose thousands of people, we just had our two best toys destroyed. And we can't look beyond that.
I bet if you counted up all of multiple small attacks done in other countries it would add up to 9/11 (I'm not talking about the whole world, I mean like the attacks from Spain added up, the attacks from Britain added up) but none of them singularly adds up to 9/11, which makes us feel we can go to our more "civilized" friends and say:
US: Hey guys look at this battle scar. This sucks. Let's go kick some ass because of it!
Britain: Uh.... *doesn't bring up scars of their own* alright fine let's go.
I know that the rest of the world has been enduring this. I know that this is nothing new. But as a collective, when the stress in your life is what to buy at Wal Mart with your latest pay raise, it is shocking to be hurt like that.
I'm not trying to give excuses, this is just how I believe it works.
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...fantastic. Just...
wow. Very well put. That kind of observation is simply fucking golden. Bravo.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:28:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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WHAT?
Are you fucking kidding me?
There is a civilized, intelligent, rational discourse going on over here and you have the audacity to skip in and drop this little distractive bit of nonsense?
I call bullshit, fella.
If you are going to take the time to wander over from the chaos that is your conversation (as oftentimes interesting and fascinating as I find them) at least try to be fucking helpful, or in some-way meaningful to the discussion taking place over here.
It is exactly this kind of childish idiocy that ensures your complete marginalization amongst the people who agree with most of what you say. Your insistence on acting petty and stupid only erodes your credibility and will eventually leave you all alone on your worn out soap box.
Grow up and actually try to contribute positively - even if it wasn't started by you- or simply fuck off.
It's that simple. It is the same thing I tell all the trolls that come along to muddy up these conversations, ironic someone needs to tell you that as well.
Beano - great job on the post dude. Very enjoyable! Lots of great comments.
Submitted by WookieSuave (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:27:17 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:24:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:09:45 (#)
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You wait till he find out where I got this information he so quickly labelled inaccurate...he's been known to reference this source himself when the data suits him.
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haha, what was the source?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:19:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:06:09 (#)
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1995 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded
2002 - 2 Marines shot, 1 killed in Kuwait
2004 - Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004
don't the above few not fall into murder/assasination acts not terrorist acts?
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I thought you were going to go for the USS cole bombing.
You have a point, but at the heart of every "terrorist" attack you have simpler crimes. I think these can be defined as terrorist because of the reasons for the killings and who he killers were working with (i am amking assumptions here because I don't know the circunstances surrounding all of these).
If someone from the IRA killed a british official, it would be murder, but I think they would also qualify it as a terrorist act.
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Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:05:04 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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says the person who belives every conspiracy.
Have a plus two becasue i hate morons
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You wait till he find out where I got this information he so quickly labelled inaccurate...he's been known to reference this source himself when the data suits him.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:06:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:45:32 (#)
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1995 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded
2002 - 2 Marines shot, 1 killed in Kuwait
2004 - Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004
List of ANTI-AMERICAN terrorist acts in the last decade.
Though I'm not sure I'd class some of these as terrorist acts.
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care to elaborate?
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don't the above few not fall into murder/assasination acts not terrorist acts?
Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 13:05:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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says the person who belives every conspiracy.
Have a plus two becasue i hate morons
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 12:40:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:45:32 (#)
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1995 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing: 19 American servicemen killed
1998 - US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 214 killed (12 Americans); U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 10 killed
1999 - Millennium terror plot foiled. Plan by Al Qaeda related groups to attack Los Angeles International Airport, the USS The Sullivans, and tourist sites in Jordan
2000 - USS Cole attacked, 17 U.S. Navy sailors killed
2001 - World Trade Center attacked and the Pentagon attacked by airplanes, 2995 killed
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded
2002 - Karachi consulate attack
2002 - 2 Marines shot, 1 killed in Kuwait
2003 - Riyadh Compound Bombings kill 9 Americans, among 35 others
2004 - Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004
List of ANTI-AMERICAN terrorist acts in the last decade.
Though I'm not sure I'd class some of these as terrorist acts.
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care to elaborate?
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-08-15 12:26:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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And ETS is the definative expert when it comes to giving out inaccurate information....
Submitted by zfx84 (user info) at 2006-08-15 12:20:46 EDT (#)
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I'm not reading all of that.
Big blocks of text make my eyes hurt...
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:45:32 EDT (#)
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1995 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing: 19 American servicemen killed
1998 - US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 214 killed (12 Americans); U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 10 killed
1999 - Millennium terror plot foiled. Plan by Al Qaeda related groups to attack Los Angeles International Airport, the USS The Sullivans, and tourist sites in Jordan
2000 - USS Cole attacked, 17 U.S. Navy sailors killed
2001 - World Trade Center attacked and the Pentagon attacked by airplanes, 2995 killed
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded
2002 - Karachi consulate attack
2002 - 2 Marines shot, 1 killed in Kuwait
2003 - Riyadh Compound Bombings kill 9 Americans, among 35 others
2004 - Civilians Nicholas Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; 5 other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004
List of ANTI-AMERICAN terrorist acts in the last decade.
Though I'm not sure I'd class some of these as terrorist acts.
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:44:02 EDT (#)
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we do. we really do.
we want to control the rest of the world.
we can't help ourselves.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:20:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:10:16 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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Ha...dude....you wanna know where I got this information that you say is inaccurate?
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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No, I didn't think so.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:10:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
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Ha...dude....you wanna know where I got this information that you say is inaccurate?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:53 EDT (#)
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Horray for inaccurate information.
Submitted by Happily_Agnostic (user info) at 2006-08-15 11:02:45 EDT (#)
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if only islam didn't exist...
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:59:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bokinsmowls (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:52:09 (#)
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Congratulations, your a target... want a cookie?
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Mike, what the fuck dude?
I don't understand what that means?
Submitted by bokinsmowls (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:52:09 EDT (#)
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Congratulations, your a target... want a cookie?
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:48:17 (#)
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You are damn right it would have. Fancy doing it for me?
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pay me.
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I probably couldn't afford you.
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$10 and i edit your list. $20 and i'll edit a term paper. $30 for a take home test, any subject. $50 and a bottle of jack for a thesis.
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$30 for a take home .
That's a deal.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:48:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:25:18 (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:42:31 (#)
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i think this is the only place where regular foreigners get to question regular americans. or well, mostly regular americans.
it would've been better if you'd only listed the ones that weren't carried out by muslims. and it would've been shorter.
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You are damn right it would have. Fancy doing it for me?
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pay me.
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I probably couldn't afford you.
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$10 and i edit your list. $20 and i'll edit a term paper. $30 for a take home test, any subject. $50 and a bottle of jack for a thesis.
Submitted by GaidinCanuck (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:43:02 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:40:10 EDT (#)
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I had a terrorist attack in my pants just a few moments ago.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:25:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:42:31 (#)
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i think this is the only place where regular foreigners get to question regular americans. or well, mostly regular americans.
it would've been better if you'd only listed the ones that weren't carried out by muslims. and it would've been shorter.
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You are damn right it would have. Fancy doing it for me?
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pay me.
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I probably couldn't afford you.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:20:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:49:06 (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:42:31 (#)
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i think this is the only place where regular foreigners get to question regular americans. or well, mostly regular americans.
it would've been better if you'd only listed the ones that weren't carried out by muslims. and it would've been shorter.
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You are damn right it would have. Fancy doing it for me?
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pay me.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:14:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:00:12 (#)
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Not doubting at all why 9/11 made such wave. I agreed with you about that.
After 9/11 it was at this point and at this point only that we all had to stand by you and announce that terrorism was bad. Previous to that we had all dealt with it in our own ways.
My point is that SINCE 9/11 everything that happens has to be ABOUT or REALTED to it.
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I get what you are saying, but making 9/11 a focal point for a campaign against terrorism makes sense, in the respect that it was the biggest terrorist attack ever.
I agree there are other attacks, and groups that get over looked, but the next largest attack is what one tenth the size?
Personally the Bali bombing had more affect on me. I was in Paddy's Bar and the Sari club less than a month before. I had friends that were there for a rugby tournament, half of them didn't come back. but even so I can understand why terror conversations, especially for americans would center on 9/11.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:13:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:21:34 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:08:50 (#)
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What was the Southern Russian School event all about? Chechnya seperatist's killed close on 350 children didn't they?
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I think you answered your own question when you called them Chechnya seperatists.
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I used to be for the chechenyans, in 1991 when they declared independence to 1994 they ruled their themselves well. They had their own international airport and were no threat to russia.
I wonder why there was no outrage by the muslim world over the 80,000 killed when russia clamped down on them. I mean is it just easier to come by American flags to burn, or is Russia that much better than the US?
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It's far easier to Blame the US, people are now looking FOR a reason to blame the US and hate the US.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:07:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:56:41 (#)
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INSULAR, that is a really good word, u mind if I use that?
This site expands my vocabulary.
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it's yours.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:07:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:21:34 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:08:50 (#)
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What was the Southern Russian School event all about? Chechnya seperatist's killed close on 350 children didn't they?
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I think you answered your own question when you called them Chechnya seperatists.
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I used to be for the chechenyans, in 1991 when they declared independence to 1994 they ruled their themselves well. They had their own international airport and were no threat to russia.
I wonder why there was no outrage by the muslim world over the 80,000 killed when russia clamped down on them. I mean is it just easier to come by American flags to burn, or is Russia that much better than the US?
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 10:05:58 EDT (#)
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List of US terrorist attacks in the last 10 years...
1995 April 19: Oklahoma City bombing: A truck bomb shattered the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City, killing 168 people-including children playing in the building's day care center. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols launched the attack in protest of the US government.
1996 July 27: Centennial Olympic Park bombing occurred in Atlanta, Georgia, during the Atlanta Olympics. One person was killed and 111 injured.
2001 September 11: September 11, 2001 attacks.
2001 September 18: November - 2001 anthrax attacks. Letters tainted with anthrax kill five across the United States. The case remains unsolved.
2002 July 4: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, kills 2 Israelis and wounds 4 others at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport. The FBI concluded this was terrorism, although they found no evidence linking Hadayet to any terrorist group (see[6]).
2006 March 3: An Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill drove an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, intending to kill as many as possible. However, nine people suffered only minor injuries.
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Are these Muslim attacks?
And WTF? The whole Anthrax thing was never solved??
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:56:41 EDT (#)
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INSULAR, that is a really good word, u mind if I use that?
This site expands my vocabulary.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:56:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Molari (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:52:11 (#)
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And this list is only the last 10 years in a handful of countries. Bomb blasts in public places and drive by shootings are rampant in dozens of south american and asian countries---
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Sure, this list is compiled from the last decade alone, during an era when we are supposed to be surrounded by higher security and better intelligence agencies.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:53:19 EDT (#)
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I knew I was going to regret clicking...
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:51:08 (#)
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http://xeb.xanga.com/289b863a2543037448622/b19322451.gif
...
Yet still I did.
-Dave
Submitted by Molari (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:52:11 EDT (#)
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And this list is only the last 10 years in a handful of countries. Bomb blasts in public places and drive by shootings are rampant in dozens of south american and asian countries.
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http://xeb.xanga.com/289b863a2543037448622/b19322451.gif
Submitted by Molari (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:50:32 EDT (#)
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I'm just hoping they elect democrat now, so the republicans realize that they wont get elected if they kill people for fake reasons. Then future republican govts will be less likely to go to fake wars. I hope.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:50:32 EDT (#)
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That sure is a pretty list that you posted.
Terrorism is a tactic of war, not a criminal act.
In 1993, the same group of islamic nutjobs tried to blow up the WTC with vans full of explosives in the underground parking. It was treated as a crime. Great. Five religious fanatics are off the street. Meanwhile, five million more were encouraged by it. They used our sensationalist media against us as a propaganda tool for themselves.
There is no way out but to fight our way through it.
Islamists don't see us as American, British, Canadian, Polish, or whatever. They see us as christian infidels, and don't care where you live.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:49:52 EDT (#)
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these are all expected side affects from El Nino.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:49:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:42:31 (#)
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i think this is the only place where regular foreigners get to question regular americans. or well, mostly regular americans.
it would've been better if you'd only listed the ones that weren't carried out by muslims. and it would've been shorter.
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You are damn right it would have. Fancy doing it for me?
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:47:44 EDT (#)
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Fuck this, I'm not reading all that.
I BLAME THE MUSLIMS...
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:42:31 EDT (#)
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i think this is the only place where regular foreigners get to question regular americans. or well, mostly regular americans.
it would've been better if you'd only listed the ones that weren't carried out by muslims. and it would've been shorter.
Submitted by JoeyG (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:39:55 EDT (#)
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http://www.chairmanmoo.co.uk/article.asp?category=worldnews&id=115&key=911
says it all!!
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:27:57 EDT (#)
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http://gabbly.com/www.ubersite.com
Submitted by Antioxident (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:27:00 EDT (#)
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STILL don't give a shit about terrorism
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:22:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:11:47 (#)
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fair enough, as was my first comment on your post.
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That's cool...I didn't jump all over your first reply cos I figured it was tongue in cheek.
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:08:50 (#)
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What was the Southern Russian School event all about? Chechnya seperatist's killed close on 350 children didn't they?
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I think you answered your own question when you called them Chechnya seperatists.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:20:33 EDT (#)
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Well put perspective!!
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:11:47 EDT (#)
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fair enough, as was my first comment on your post.
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:06:02 (#)
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Beano, I understand your post here, like what you are saying, but have to take acception to the comment about passports as I'm having a hard time understanding what that has to do with anything?
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It was a generalisation based on (unsubstantiated facts) alluding to the fact that if you haven't travelled outside of your country or read a book you are not interested in what goes on in the world or cannot be very bright.
It was put there as bait.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:08:50 EDT (#)
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What was the Southern Russian School event all about? Chechnya seperatist's killed close on 350 children didn't they?
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:06:02 EDT (#)
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Beano, I understand your post here, like what you are saying, but have to take acception to the comment about passports as I'm having a hard time understanding what that has to do with anything?
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 09:03:55 EDT (#)
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I had actually forgotten about the other WTC attack.
I am raising the rating for actually provoking intelligent discussion, rather than the kind of comments that usually accompany this type of post.
-Dave
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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Therefore this is OK...to point out 'hey look, the WHOLE WORLD is affected by terrorism and has been for like...welll uhm... forever'
I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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A number of those terrorist attacks before 9/11 were targeting US citizens.
9/11 made such waves not becuase it was just in the US (wasn't the first attack in the US, or even the first attack by muslims), but becuase it was the largets attack ever.
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Not doubting at all why 9/11 made such wave. I agreed with you about that.
After 9/11 it was at this point and at this point only that we all had to stand by you and announce that terrorism was bad. Previous to that we had all dealt with it in our own ways.
My point is that SINCE 9/11 everything that happens has to be ABOUT or REALTED to it.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:59:32 EDT (#)
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*applauds*
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:52:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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Therefore this is OK...to point out 'hey look, the WHOLE WORLD is affected by terrorism and has been for like...welll uhm... forever'
I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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A number of those terrorist attacks before 9/11 were targeting US citizens.
9/11 made such waves not becuase it was just in the US (wasn't the first attack in the US, or even the first attack by muslims), but becuase it was the largets attack ever.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:48:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:44:17 (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:40:10 (#)
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except for the 1993 one
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Refresh my memory Rad.
-Dave
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The OTHER WTC attack.
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
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Therefore this is OK...to point out 'hey look, the WHOLE WORLD is affected by terrorism and has been for like...welll uhm... forever'
I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand. I know that Americans seem to think the world begins in New York and Ends at Los Angeles. I have been to France and talked to young people who HATE us. I have seen the "DOWN WITH BUSH" graffiti in Italy (Because "Bush" is recognizable in any language) and I know that people in the rest of the world say "Congrats you got hit once. We've been getting hit for a century."
American's would NEVER point out the real reason that 9/11, for all of the death toll had one key difference. The buildings were extremely expensive.
I know that sounds awful, but not only did we lose thousands of people, we just had our two best toys destroyed. And we can't look beyond that.
I bet if you counted up all of multiple small attacks done in other countries it would add up to 9/11 (I'm not talking about the whole world, I mean like the attacks from Spain added up, the attacks from Britain added up) but none of them singularly adds up to 9/11, which makes us feel we can go to our more "civilized" friends and say:
US: Hey guys look at this battle scar. This sucks. Let's go kick some ass because of it!
Britain: Uh.... *doesn't bring up scars of their own* alright fine let's go.
I know that the rest of the world has been enduring this. I know that this is nothing new. But as a collective, when the stress in your life is what to buy at Wal Mart with your latest pay raise, it is shocking to be hurt like that.
I'm not trying to give excuses, this is just how I believe it works
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Quite possible one of the most sensible responses I've read to date on Uber.
I completely agree with you.
I think also you ARE the biggest kid in the playground and you had your butt kicked by the skinny bespeckled dirty kid, not only that he did it IN FRON OF THE WHOLE SCHOOL.
That smarts and demands revenge at all cost.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:47:02 EDT (#)
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It's only considered a tragedy if it takes place in America, fucktard.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:44:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:40:10 (#)
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except for the 1993 one
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Refresh my memory Rad.
-Dave
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:40:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:14:17 (#)
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I think that the major issue is that pre 9/11 the yanks never had a terrorist attack on home soil.
-Dave
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except for the 1993 one
which we were too stupid to take it for what it was.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:39:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:25:36 (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:23:55 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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Which is pretty much what I said below.
-Dave
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You did, yes.
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I agree completely
shoulda nuked the bastards in the 70s
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:38:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
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Therefore this is OK...to point out 'hey look, the WHOLE WORLD is affected by terrorism and has been for like...welll uhm... forever'
I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand. I know that Americans seem to think the world begins in New York and Ends at Los Angeles. I have been to France and talked to young people who HATE us. I have seen the "DOWN WITH BUSH" graffiti in Italy (Because "Bush" is recognizable in any language) and I know that people in the rest of the world say "Congrats you got hit once. We've been getting hit for a century."
American's would NEVER point out the real reason that 9/11, for all of the death toll had one key difference. The buildings were extremely expensive.
I know that sounds awful, but not only did we lose thousands of people, we just had our two best toys destroyed. And we can't look beyond that.
I bet if you counted up all of multiple small attacks done in other countries it would add up to 9/11 (I'm not talking about the whole world, I mean like the attacks from Spain added up, the attacks from Britain added up) but none of them singularly adds up to 9/11, which makes us feel we can go to our more "civilized" friends and say:
US: Hey guys look at this battle scar. This sucks. Let's go kick some ass because of it!
Britain: Uh.... *doesn't bring up scars of their own* alright fine let's go.
I know that the rest of the world has been enduring this. I know that this is nothing new. But as a collective, when the stress in your life is what to buy at Wal Mart with your latest pay raise, it is shocking to be hurt like that.
I'm not trying to give excuses, this is just how I believe it works.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:37:11 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/70148
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:31:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:25:34 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:51 (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:12:02 (#)
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Beano ... why? Such risk involved in doing something like this. I guess you're a risk TAKER though aren't you?
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Why a risk?
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Given the sheer multitude of parodies and posts poking fun at all this ... seems like masochism to actually try to disperse truth in light of it all.
I have not the patience to cross-check your references but if anything here is accurate I say bravo.
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This is actually just (in my view) a small point to correct because there seems too much 'Muslims did it all' and 'aren't we hard done by'.
It was and is a quick and easy way to say 'hold up a min... you guys are not the only ones to suffer'.
So far so good but I'm sure i'll get slated by some.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:25:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:23:55 (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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Which is pretty much what I said below.
-Dave
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You did, yes.
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:25:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:51 (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:12:02 (#)
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Beano ... why? Such risk involved in doing something like this. I guess you're a risk TAKER though aren't you?
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Why a risk?
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Given the sheer multitude of parodies and posts poking fun at all this ... seems like masochism to actually try to disperse truth in light of it all.
I have not the patience to cross-check your references but if anything here is accurate I say bravo.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:25:15 EDT (#)
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don't worry Beano, I'm just fucking with you...terror attacks are a travesty everytime and everywhere civilians are killed.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:23:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 (#)
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I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
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Which is pretty much what I said below.
-Dave
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:19:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
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Therefore this is OK...to point out 'hey look, the WHOLE WORLD is affected by terrorism and has been for like...welll uhm... forever'
I DO NOT want to cheapen 9/11 ...but it was kind of like the US woke up to world terror only then and the rest of us were saying ...'mmmm, well it's been going on for years you know, but OK, now you got hit we'll all stand up and take notice'.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:12:02 (#)
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Beano ... why? Such risk involved in doing something like this. I guess you're a risk TAKER though aren't you?
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Why a risk?
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:30 EDT (#)
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It has nothing to do with that. Americans have a naturally imbued sense of isolation. Sure we have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north, but really we feel like an island nation. The rest of the world is a poverty stricken, war torn, principleless cess pool that we see when we turn on CNN and go "I'm glad I don't live there."
It's when that stuff spills over to us that we get outraged, almost a sense of "Hey look I know you guys have problems, don't bring it to my house."
Submitted by saxon4eva (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:16:14 EDT (#)
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Just for the title.. i want to know why the 7 Pipe bombs in newry (Northen Ireland) wernt on
the news on tuesday. what is that kinda "terrorism" out of date???
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:14:17 EDT (#)
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I think that the major issue is that pre 9/11 the yanks never had a terrorist attack on home soil.
Contrast that with the Brits, (IRA) and Spanish (ETA) and you can see why the reactions are so very different.
Basically it is old hat to most countries.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1920000/images/_1920917_aldwych150pa.jpg
Look like anything we saw last year?
-Dave
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:12:02 EDT (#)
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Beano ... why? Such risk involved in doing something like this. I guess you're a risk TAKER though aren't you?
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:10:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:09:11 (#)
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if it doesn't happen in America...its not really a tragedy
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Therein lies the real answer.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2006-08-15 08:09:11 EDT (#)
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if it doesn't happen in America...its not really a tragedy


