A History of Violence (1511 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-08-18 01:15:07 EDT
http://astro.berkeley.edu/%7Eframos/onemusic/Cat%20Stevens%20-%20Peace%20Train.mp3
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-20 13:17:03 EDT (#)
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Good point on the territorial thing. I'm just of the school that our violent tendencies run deeper than we either know or care to admit. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we found out that our propensity for violence is written into our genetic code.
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"There was one awesome anecdote about an elephant knocking on the door of a hut with his trunk and then patiently waiting for the villager to answer it before dragging him off."""
HAHAHAHA!
Oh, to be a fly on that elephant's back...
-->Meanwhile, behind the facade of this peacefully sleeping village:
--><WHAM! WHAM! WHAM!><muffled pachydermian giggles>
-->"Who is it?"
-->"...uh, Candygram, sir." <more muffled giggling>
-->"Oooo, candy! Be right there!"
--><whispering> "This is gonna be awesome!"
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If you find anything on the net about that incident, please link me to it. I'd like to see more evidence on this disturbing trend of elephantine gang violence. "Don't throw shit at me, motherfucker! I'll go get all my homies and we'll ruin your shit, dawg."
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-20 12:38:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-20 12:23:51 (#)
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Unprovoked violence from the lower animals suggests either a conscious, reasoning intelligence or a biological imperative for violence. Either one is profound in it's implications but also damaging to an ideal of global non-violence.
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Depends how you classify unprovoked - if you've got two territorial species in close proximity then just the other species' existence in that area could be seen as provocation.
I wish I could remember what that program was called - there was this one elephant that was nicking crops from a field so all the villagers came out and threw shit at it. The next night he came back with 50 elephant buddies and they just wrecked the place. It was the ultimate elephantine "fuck you." The stuff that was troubling was where elephants were sneaking (tippytoe style) into the village at night, lining themselves up with the sleeping compartment of a hut and then just ripping through the wall and dragging a villager out. They weren't interested in any of the food - just went straight for the people. There was one awesome anecdote about an elephant knocking on the door of a hut with his trunk and then patiently waiting for the villager to answer it before dragging him off.
Apparently the people studying the situation were hypothesising that the killer elephants were all males in must and they reckon that the glands near their eyes that swell during this time cause such pain from the pressure that the elephants go temporarily insane.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-20 12:23:51 EDT (#)
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That's good that he does that and the question was in earnest and not baited. What I want is for people to do it as a part of their normal schedule. I pick one day (Mon) and take the time to fill up one bag of trash (well, two if you count that I sort the recyclables). It's just my personal crusade and it's starting to work. I'm seeing more people doing it in my area.
I had heard something about the elephants, but I'm not sure if I got any details on it. I'd like to know more. Unprovoked violence from the lower animals suggests either a conscious, reasoning intelligence or a biological imperative for violence. Either one is profound in it's implications but also damaging to an ideal of global non-violence.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-20 12:11:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-20 11:55:32 (#)
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You want to respect nature and love this planet, right Brad? Tell me something: when's the last time you took a large trash bag and just stopped along your favorite stretch of road or a local park and filled it up with the litter you find there?
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Actually dude, I've seen him pick up other people's trash many a time. Poor fucker was loaded down with bottles and cans on the way back to the car when we went to the Garden of the Gods. Ask him how many bottles he's currently got on top of the fridge until recycling day comes around.
You bring up an interesting point about the animals though - did you hear about the elephants in bangladesh )I think) who went batshit and started dragging villagers out of there beds and fucking them up? I saw an insane program on it. Will look for a link.
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-20 11:55:32 EDT (#)
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I believe peace as a collective is an impossibility [at this stage of human evolution]. You of all people should intimately understand that, too. What happens to you when people disagree with you on this website? When you're presented with a debate here and feel your message is the least bit threatened, you are as violent with your words, accusations and suggestions as anyone could be with fists or weapons. It's ok; you have the right to feel that way, but spare me the altruistic shell. You can't tell me we as a civilization are capable of becoming violence-free, when you show the opposite with your words and thoughts here. If you're as yet incapable of cleansing that venom from your mind, then how can you preach to me against violence as a necessity without exposing a hypocracy within yourself? Leading by example is not a cliche; it's a necessary component to coax people to your cause.
It's funny that you would mention animal attacks, as well. There are more than a few documented cases of revenge killings by animals. An Alaskan Grizzly kills two campers in Alaska. The cause for the attacks? Hunters had shot the sow's cub two miles away from the innocent campers. Now where/how was the sow threatened/surprised by or hungry for those campers? What about the wolves in India? A pair of wolves wantonly killed humans for months. That case is also believed to be a result of a litter being killed. It's not solely on revenge, either; lions have killed humans for territorial reasons, as well. My point is that if lower mammals do that at an instinctual level, what makes you think humans as a whole can just discard eons of biological and possibly genetic programming? I believe an individual is able to achieve that state of enlightenment, but all of civillization simultaneously? That's one folly I can't support.
You want to respect nature and love this planet, right Brad? Tell me something: when's the last time you took a large trash bag and just stopped along your favorite stretch of road or a local park and filled it up with the litter you find there? You want to make a real, tangible difference? Start there. I do it once a week and have been doing it for about three months now. Now when I drive around, I can see the difference I make with my own eyes and it's quite noticable. If you, myself and everyone who reads this comment would just do that once a week, think of the difference in our trashy landscape we would TRULY make. Maybe someone will see you on the side of the road and be encouraged to do the same to their favorite stretch of the highway. There are 168 hours in a week. It takes about 1 hour to fill up a trash bag with litter. With 1/168th of your weekly time, we can all help ensure our grandchildren don't have to see our garbage strewn about THEIR land.
Saving the world does not start with exposing the bad things that evil men do; it starts with you - inside you. If you can't control the demon of rage inside yourself, how do you expect to make any real difference in your external existence? I can't be receptive to an idea put forth by an author who belittles, berates and uses derogatory suggestions towards his readers (not necessarily me) while railing against violence.
I thought this post was very well done. You delivered your message without pounding your fists upon the podium and the masses received it better than usual. Then wardy came along and you collapsed into denigration and the extraordinarily non-violent suggestion for him to get fucked. That paradox struck a nerve with me and I'd like to know what you think.
Submitted by Laser (user info) at 2006-08-19 12:27:26 EDT (#)
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A reluctant +2
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-08-19 11:54:58 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-19 07:09:02 EDT (#)
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Don't even read it if you can't take the font.
Just listen to the song and look at the pictures.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-08-18 20:38:05 EDT (#)
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Unreadable type, and I expected a better screencap of JFK's assassination.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2006-08-18 20:29:09 EDT (#)
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Because I scrolled down fast and thought that I saw "Age of Empires."
Look who whored... I mean, started a cult! http://www.ubersite.com/m/92002
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2006-08-18 20:18:29 EDT (#)
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you're full of shit
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 19:28:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:59:55 (#)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if 'know-it-all' assholes like you who actually don't know SHIT is what the universities turn out these days, I'm glad I dropped out.
Get fucked, Wardy. University doesn't make you smarter, or even more knowledgeable. You can acquire a better education by simply READING and digesting information because you love it, not because it'll make you score well on a stupid test.
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really? going to the library and reading a bunch of books is the same as going to a class taught by a guy that has been studying something for thirty years AND then also reading a bunch of material?
what reality do you exist in?
Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2006-08-18 19:07:09 EDT (#)
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*applauds*
My eyes are bleeding from that green on grey text though.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2006-08-18 18:16:18 EDT (#)
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Interesting.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-18 17:06:46 EDT (#)
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You get out of university what you put in. It's self-directed learning in a communal environment, that's all. There's nothing you can learn at university that you can't learn out of it, including how to spunk a few grand up the wall.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:59:55 EDT (#)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, if 'know-it-all' assholes like you who actually don't know SHIT is what the universities turn out these days, I'm glad I dropped out.
Get fucked, Wardy. University doesn't make you smarter, or even more knowledgeable. You can acquire a better education by simply READING and digesting information because you love it, not because it'll make you score well on a stupid test.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:35:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:22:53 (#)
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hahahah
Wardy, you're way out of your league here. You have no argument, only a stupid idea passed down from the murderers and rapists that wrote the history books your state-sanctioned education has given you to read.
Wake up you miserable retard. You're being used.
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state-sanctioned? close-minded thought? college universities are a place where some of the most free thought occurs. i had a professor that believed the pentagon wasn't hit by a plane, and he was one of the most brilliant guys i've ever had the fortune of talking to. unfortunately, his brilliance was in english and literature, not in physics or structural engineering.
just because i don't buy into your bullshit doesn't mean i don't think critically. i probably have more of a background in history than you do, seeing as how it's going to be my minor (that or theology, maybe both).
do you think that maybe, just maybe, it's you (the guy without the education), that is polluting the discussion with a one-sided thought process?
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:31:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:11:14 (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:02:26 (#)
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right, but you're missing my point. would somebody else not want to take it and be harrassing us constantly with military action to do so?
go back to britain.
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I'm not missing your point - I'm highlighting the fact that you asked a stupidly phrased question that you would have to backpeddle from. Gotta wonder what standard of debate you're used to at university if you haven't learned to avoid that obvious mistake yet.
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stupidly phrased? only slightly. if we weren't the world's only superpower you can bet other countries would be vying for our piece of the pie because of its worth. look at the cold war, for example. now imagine that we weren't even a superpower -- imagine, holy shit i can't believe i am saying this, that we were canada. we'd be under british or russian rule -- or worse yet, german (although i have to say while we won the pacific battle, the russians played a much more definitive role on the german front, we just tipped the scales).
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And if you can explain how I can return to Britain when I'm already there, be my guest.
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thought you got your green card, my bad.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:22:53 EDT (#)
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hahahah
Wardy, you're way out of your league here. You have no argument, only a stupid idea passed down from the murderers and rapists that wrote the history books your state-sanctioned education has given you to read.
Wake up you miserable retard. You're being used.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:11:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:02:26 (#)
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right, but you're missing my point. would somebody else not want to take it and be harrassing us constantly with military action to do so?
go back to britain.
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I'm not missing your point - I'm highlighting the fact that you asked a stupidly phrased question that you would have to backpeddle from. Gotta wonder what standard of debate you're used to at university if you haven't learned to avoid that obvious mistake yet.
And if you can explain how I can return to Britain when I'm already there, be my guest.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:09:35 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 16:02:26 EDT (#)
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right, but you're missing my point. would somebody else not want to take it and be harrassing us constantly with military action to do so?
go back to britain.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:56:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:48:51 (#)
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would we still have an abundance of food if we weren't the world's only superpower?
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Obviously, yes, as america is not the only country with an abundance of food and natural resources.
Stay in school. We'll wait.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 15:48:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 13:40:39 (#)
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If you want to talk about "natural law" or "natural order", let's talk about the well studied principle of "fight or flight". Take the bear, for instance. The bear isn't going to attack you unless he feels sufficiently threatened, surprised, or sees you as dinner. Supplant this principle onto nations. Ask yourself, is the United States hurting for food? Are we so low on natural resources that we cannot sustain a good sized population and still have plenty?
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would we still have an abundance of food if we weren't the world's only superpower? would we still have our natural resources?
what a terrible argument. it is clear you have no education in anything regarding sociology, psychology or anthropology. it's human nature to compete because we are aware of the things that make us feel good and we have the ability and intelligence to get them if we want them by means that the 'bear' doesn't. if a bear suddenly learned how to use an ak-47, you can be damn sure he'd be fucking all the mama bears and the forest would be his bitch.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-08-18 13:52:33 EDT (#)
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this looks like it was done by a second grader. or somebody with the education of....
well i guess there's my answer...
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 13:40:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:42:21 (#)
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Violence is a necessary part of human existence. When our core beliefs go from simple self-preservation to preservation of all life, we'll become extinct or at the very least severly endangered. We'll overpopulate, societies and empires will collapse, anarchy will take over and the cycle will begin again.
There are philosophers and sociologists who believe that were it not for the "bottleneck" of homonids around 400,000 years ago (the speculation is that there may have been as few as a couple thousand homonids left on the planet after an as-yet-undetermined catastrophe) we may not have gotten to the point where we are in technological and social development. Violence is engrained in our very fiber and will rear it's ugly head more and more often as resources become increasingly limited and space becomes less available on this world.
War, disease and famine will always be a necessary evil. It is undeniable. Many of the technologies that enrich our lives today and make us healthier are a direct result of R&D by military sources. Cell phones, jet-powered flight, the interstate system... Military ideas converted to civilian conveniences. That which takes so many lives enables the remainder to live longer, multiply more rapidly and achieve the purely philosophical notion of "happiness". We'll reach a critical mass once again, collapse and we'll start all over again, thus revealing the paradox of violence as being both self-sufficient and required for our survival. We kill in order to live; no altruistic ideologies will ever be able to squash or even quell that need.
If all war and unnecessary death stopped this very instant, we'd run out of everything within our own lifetimes. World population would literally explode (after all, if we can't fight anymore, what other biological imperative takes over? procreation). Our choices are indeed limited to "fight, fuck or hit the fence". It's sad and it's unfair to all of us as we are capable of so much more, but IT IS NECESSARY.
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Where to start?...
First of all, I vehemently disagree that violence is "necessary". I cannot and will not ever believe that violence is a necessary component of life on this planet simply because we've never really tried peace as a collective. How can we sit here and spew the age-old assumption that violence will always be with us because it is a necessary component of existence when we simply have never TRIED anything else?
Do you really think that population control depends on war? I got an idea...how about we start letting people die with dignity and stop keeping them alive with artificial tubes and drugs until they're nothing but a shell?
When's the last time a government or person with enough power and armaments to take over, intimidate, rob, or enslave someone else DIDN'T do it? That's right...it never happens. Why jump to the conclusion that this is impossible just because it's never done?
If you want to talk about "natural law" or "natural order", let's talk about the well studied principle of "fight or flight". Take the bear, for instance. The bear isn't going to attack you unless he feels sufficiently threatened, surprised, or sees you as dinner. Supplant this principle onto nations. Ask yourself, is the United States hurting for food? Are we so low on natural resources that we cannot sustain a good sized population and still have plenty?
If there is a 'need' to attack someone, it is being manufactured. It is the result of a long-term PLAN gone haywire. It's about FEAR, Jeremy. The devil operates in a cloud of fear. All the evils of this world are a result of fear and its satellite emotions.
We have been conditioned from day one to accept this bullshit about 'necessary evils' like war so some asshole can continue to carry out their plans for control and domination and power.
Look, if I was trying to say anything here, it's that we each have a free will that we can choose to exercise as we see fit, and by simply refusing to adhere to the status quo as they attempt to define it.
I'm not saying let's ban death on planet earth. I'm saying let's respect nature as it really is instead of how evil men are trying to make it. Refuse and resist.
Submitted by Maltese (user info) at 2006-08-18 13:39:05 EDT (#)
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ain'T goT no how whaTchamacalliT
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-08-18 13:17:07 EDT (#)
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TWO posts in a row that are good?
wow, you're gonna get a reputation as some kind if internet guru around here if you keep that up
Submitted by UnderOathMeal (user info) at 2006-08-18 11:12:19 EDT (#)
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I typically knee-jerk -2 this cockmonger but I appreciate the work and research here.
And pictures of dead bodies always make for a welcomed addition to my morning.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-08-18 11:06:10 EDT (#)
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What Kaos said.
You're still fucking clownshoes, though.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-08-18 10:40:32 EDT (#)
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How'd you leave out the "era" where Shlongy sends a boot up your ass?
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2006-08-18 10:34:24 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/91965#2106506
This guy summed it up nicely. You approach your cause in a way that appeals to your audience and you'll have receptive listeners. This isn't even Advertising 101, it's more basic than that.
But you already knew that.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-08-18 10:28:26 EDT (#)
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fag below
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-18 10:16:26 EDT (#)
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and the flag covered coffins reminded me of my bro. he was on the death detail at apg. all the incoming bodies and the stuff they owned had to be sorted and stuff had to be destroyed.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-08-18 10:12:36 EDT (#)
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fun and educational!
please do more of this. is it because filthy is doing you now? you seem to have cheered up. christ if all you needed was sex i woulda pitched in for the hooker.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:52:25 EDT (#)
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HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
I thought this was great.
It started out really funny and progressively got more serious, slowly drawing the reader into what you REALLY wanted to say. This was what you should have been doing all along! I think this is a very successful post. And I love the addition of Paris Hilton at the end with all the modern atrocities!!!
Now, god damn it ETS, go read this post of mine!!! http://www.ubersite.com/m/91733
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:42:21 EDT (#)
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Violence is a necessary part of human existence. When our core beliefs go from simple self-preservation to preservation of all life, we'll become extinct or at the very least severly endangered. We'll overpopulate, societies and empires will collapse, anarchy will take over and the cycle will begin again.
There are philosophers and sociologists who believe that were it not for the "bottleneck" of homonids around 400,000 years ago (the speculation is that there may have been as few as a couple thousand homonids left on the planet after an as-yet-undetermined catastrophe) we may not have gotten to the point where we are in technological and social development. Violence is engrained in our very fiber and will rear it's ugly head more and more often as resources become increasingly limited and space becomes less available on this world.
War, disease and famine will always be a necessary evil. It is undeniable. Many of the technologies that enrich our lives today and make us healthier are a direct result of R&D by military sources. Cell phones, jet-powered flight, the interstate system... Military ideas converted to civilian conveniences. That which takes so many lives enables the remainder to live longer, multiply more rapidly and achieve the purely philosophical notion of "happiness". We'll reach a critical mass once again, collapse and we'll start all over again, thus revealing the paradox of violence as being both self-sufficient and required for our survival. We kill in order to live; no altruistic ideologies will ever be able to squash or even quell that need.
If all war and unnecessary death stopped this very instant, we'd run out of everything within our own lifetimes. World population would literally explode (after all, if we can't fight anymore, what other biological imperative takes over? procreation). Our choices are indeed limited to "fight, fuck or hit the fence". It's sad and it's unfair to all of us as we are capable of so much more, but IT IS NECESSARY.
Submitted by Samo (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:36:42 EDT (#)
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Indo, you can't be for real. Impossible
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-18 09:06:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Samo (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:42:15 (#)
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"They had rain dances and religious ceremonies because they were fucking bored."
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Abysmal
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I bet you are one of those people who thinks long drawnout ceremonial dances and displays among natives are beautiful cultural celebrations and the people who do them have a deep connection with the spiritual world and nature, but thinks people that spend two hours at church are brainwashed sheep.
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:49:31 EDT (#)
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I liked the ending, where you slip in some social commentary, you sly dog, you.
However, I hated the font.
Submitted by Samo (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:42:15 EDT (#)
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"They had rain dances and religious ceremonies because they were fucking bored."
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Abysmal
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:35:26 EDT (#)
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It started out cool, then somehow morphed into "We didn't Start the Fire".
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:10:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:34:48 (#)
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Does it not make sense that human history should have some element of spiritual progress to it...instead of just an artificial idea of progress based on our persuit of convenience and comfort?
Even with all the comforts of a modern wasteful life, we are still no closer now to God or enlightenment than when we started. If anything, we are further away.
What is wrong with us?
Sometimes I will be sitting in my chair wherever I am, be it at work, at home, or in my car, and it will hit me... I am a part of this history going on before, behind, and around me.
Right now, I have the ability to reach out and touch the face of history like it's a glassy sheet of fluid falling in front of me, or a hollow cave wherein my voice can echo on and on, if only I could scream loudly enough.
I think maybe the problem is, too many people are screaming at once. It's chaotic and beautiful - like a Mandelbrot Set consuming itself, falling apart around the edges.
If we could only learn to forget the things we didn't need to pollute our minds with and simply learn to share what we have, we right a new history starting right now...at this very moment...one that didn't make us look like a bunch of stupid assholes.
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Not really, we aren't spiritual creatures. Most people on the planet spend more time worrying about putting food on the table, or even just earning more to buy a bigger TV than thinking about if there is a god. This has always been the case. Indians weren't spiritual people who never strived for nicer things. They had rain dances and religious ceremonies because they were fucking bored. I can promise you they would try and have the nicest bows, headresses, etc.
Sharing what we have will never work, at least not for a long long time, war isn't a thing of the past. Sharing everything will only work if everybody on the planet has the same idea about what/how/why we should share and the one of the few things I think we can all agree that history has taught us is that everybody never has the same idea.
At first I was going to +2 this, it was amusing then I realized it was supposed to (I think) be a serious commentary and I find that very disturbing. You bashed the jews for their treatment of women, and I am confused how you think your plan is a good idea if you are against how they are treated. I mean for world peace everyone would have to be living the same (or similiar lifestyle) or lifestyles in other cultures would have to be accepted. Would you like to share everything with a group that didn't allow women education past the 6th grade?
Submitted by Samo (user info) at 2006-08-18 08:01:21 EDT (#)
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fag below
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2006-08-18 07:47:20 EDT (#)
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Are you a huge pothead who sits around writing for Ubersite all day, peeking over your shoulder now and then to make sure the robots don't attack you from behind?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-08-18 07:41:25 EDT (#)
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Where did you get those dates for ancient empires from? Did you just use the Romans?
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-08-18 07:38:49 EDT (#)
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WTF IM NOT EPILEPTIC SEIZURING ALL THAT?!?!?!
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2006-08-18 07:36:46 EDT (#)
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kate_muc_060811_stop_the_madness__re.htm
ETS, you'll like this.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-08-18 07:20:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2006-08-18 06:49:54 EDT (#)
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that was teh kewl.
Submitted by wingester1 (user info) at 2006-08-18 03:05:56 EDT (#)
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why u put fuckn parris hilt there 4 ya dickhead. shut the fuckup.
Submitted by DuiTicket (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:48:52 EDT (#)
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i actually like this post......weird...especially coming from ETS
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:34:48 EDT (#)
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Does it not make sense that human history should have some element of spiritual progress to it...instead of just an artificial idea of progress based on our persuit of convenience and comfort?
Even with all the comforts of a modern wasteful life, we are still no closer now to God or enlightenment than when we started. If anything, we are further away.
What is wrong with us?
Sometimes I will be sitting in my chair wherever I am, be it at work, at home, or in my car, and it will hit me... I am a part of this history going on before, behind, and around me.
Right now, I have the ability to reach out and touch the face of history like it's a glassy sheet of fluid falling in front of me, or a hollow cave wherein my voice can echo on and on, if only I could scream loudly enough.
I think maybe the problem is, too many people are screaming at once. It's chaotic and beautiful - like a Mandelbrot Set consuming itself, falling apart around the edges.
If we could only learn to forget the things we didn't need to pollute our minds with and simply learn to share what we have, we right a new history starting right now...at this very moment...one that didn't make us look like a bunch of stupid assholes.
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:33:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
*epilepsy*
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:20:08 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
good post. the reviews so far have sucked gigantic cock, though.
Submitted by Cracked_out_cali (user info) at 2006-08-18 02:05:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
For the first 3/4 of this, I was thinking B@W. But I'm not sure if that last part will fly.
+2 for effort alone. I think this is one of your few (non-music related) posts I read all the way through. Must have been all the pretty pictures.
Submitted by Entaran (user info) at 2006-08-18 01:56:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
"From this wantage point"
... ok Chekov. Too much star trek for you.
Needs more circle work. Needed a reference to bush administration being such as the cavemen. Intelligence: Abysmal, Violent Tendencies: Extreme.
Submitted by humpty (user info) at 2006-08-18 01:37:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Maybe I was too harsh. I just can't stand pessimistic shit about how terrible human beings are.
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-08-18 01:28:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Fuck those assholes below I thought it was good.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2006-08-18 01:25:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
can barely even fucking read that font
Submitted by humpty (user info) at 2006-08-18 01:21:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Was that supposed to be funny?


