My Memories of September 11th, 2001 (1818 hits)
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Submitted by Axolotl (View user info) at 2006-09-08 10:35:14 EDT
September 11th of the year 2001 was my first full day of 6th grade. Now that we were the highest grade at our elementary school, we got to line up right in the front of all the little kids, talking and laughing in the small asphalt lot of our school like we were kings of the world. Our first day we had just met our teachers, brought home forms...I remember repeating to my parents that my teacher was "neurotic," not understanding the word.
It's also one of the only days in my life I can remember picture-perfectly, from the moment I awoke, to the moment I went to sleep.
I lived less than a block from school, and walked down with my little brother, congregating with my friends in the parking lot. Our school was a large school in a fairly large town in the Meadowlands next to a fire department, and we were near the hills of North Jersey from which we could see all the way to Manhattan, and down even to Newark and Jersey City. We lived less than two miles from New York City.
Our school day started at 8:45 in the morning on that Tuesday, and we filed noisily into the building, not having the slightest idea that at that same moment a fuel-laden aircraft had struck the World Trade Center.
We started our first period with our young, blond teacher, while jet fuel burned people alive inside the towers. There were twenty-five eager little 11-year-olds in my class, mostly girls, and an 11-year-old me. Little hyperactive runt that I was, I wasn't thinking about school, I was more concerned that I might have to get glasses. My arm was healing from a broken wrist, solidly encased in a cast.
The teachers were talking to one another as we started looking at vocabulary lists. They didn't tell us, but the radio in the teacher's room was saying that unbelievably, a commercial airliner had hit the World Trade Center. Us 6th-graders joked, talked, and made fun of the fat kids while innocent office workers, corporate executives and janitors threw themselves out of a burning building over a thousand feet up, their bodies pulverized on the sidewalks below.
Some teachers were crying that day, and we didn't know why. We were confused, but we didn't read too much into it. The teachers were certainly not informing us that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center, and another had hit the Pentagon, and another had exploded in Pennsylvania.
We didn't have Spanish class that day because our Spanish teacher's brother was a NYPD firefighter, and she had left hysterically crying, driving home to North Bergen to make sure he was all right. Of course, we didn't know that.
My friend Courtney was just as confused as I was. At that moment, the North Tower was collapsing, crushing her father in the wreckage. She didn't know that, and I didn't know that; no one knew that it would be the last happy, content moment of her next few years, before she realized her father was gone.
They called me and three other kids out of class for some reason, maybe two hours after school started. Our health teacher that I had never met before escorted me down to where my dad was waiting in the office, and me and my brother left the school to walk the block home.
Outside, the fire department next to the school was in an uproar, fire trucks roaring down the street, trying to get to New York City.
"Two planes hit the World Trade Center today," my dad said. "One of them collapsed, just fell right to the ground. Another plane hit the Pentagon." I had never seen him so bitter, so disgusted, and it didn't seem right that my dad would show any kind of resignation.
It sounded so unbelievable to me, that the Pentagon of all places was attacked, the symbol of America's military power. That the Twin Towers, where I had stood on the observation deck and looked out over my beautiful fields of my country, the Republic, was gone forever, crushed into rubble and wreckage.
My dad drove my brother and I to a little town on a hill in the Meadowlands because he said he wanted to show us something. As we drove down New Jersey's highways, two miles from the city, there was an ugly cloud of black smoke rising through the air that somehow made everything more real.
We stood on a hill in the Meadowlands, my dad gripping our shoulders, and looking out on New York City, so close to us. Smoke and fire filled the air over the city, a huge, hellish column of smoke and fumes rising miles into the air, the World Trade Center collapsing into itself beneath. The pillar of death rose up interminably, brilliantly into the air, higher than any plane. The smell of burning flesh and plastic reached my nose as I looked on the destruction, and I started to cry.
My New York City, where I had seen plays on Broadway, where I had walked the South Street Seaport and visited the Statue of Liberty, where my parents and family had walked through the beautiful, rich halls of the World Trade Center, looking out over the observation deck at the world, was destroyed. The two bastions of America on the skyline replaced by an inferno of black smoke and ash, billowing out and rising.
My dad had wanted to show us evil that day, he'd shown us what people were capable of. He took us home, but every day for the next three months, every time we looked out at the city, we saw the smoke, the city burning endlessly. We lit candles at our church and prayed for the thousands of dead, especially the ones that we knew.
I ate a ham sandwich at my dining room table, and my aunts and uncles and cousins gathered at the house to watch the coverage, just to not be alone. My mom hadn't come home yet from her work at the high school, and my cousin had just escaped through the Lincoln Tunnel from her job in Midtown Manhattan, where she had watched the planes hit the towers. She maintained that it would be World War Three by the next morning.
My mom came home, shaken. She had been working in the guidance counselor's office at the high school, and all day she had nothing but teenagers in there screaming and crying that their parents were in the World Trade Center and couldn't get out. People were accepting phone calls in school from their moms and dads, tearfully telling them that they loved them before the towers fell.
My mom answered a phone call that day from a man's cell phone. It was from a New York City firefighter whose son attended the school. He was trapped in the stairwell of the towers, and was begging for help, he was begging that my mom send someone to rescue him. My mom talked to him, trying to comfort him and said that she would tell his son that he loved him with all his heart. The ear-splitting rumbling of the falling towers began, the fireman screamed, and the line went dead.
We watched TV as a family that night, calling our friends and making sure they were okay. My mom's friend was on a cigarette break from his job at the WTC when the planes hit, and he had been showered with severed body parts and fluttering papers as he ran away in terror from the buildings.
I went in to my room, played some Final Fantasy VII, and talked to some friends online. Evidently, a lot of kids I knew had parents working at the WTC, not all of whom would survive. Before I went to bed, I told my dad a stupid joke I heard on Spongebob Squarepants, about pirates going to "arrr"-rated movies...he laughed, and said that we would need some humor in these dark days to come. America, and my life, would not be the same.
The next day a lot of kids were absent. Courtney was absent, for her father had been killed. My Spanish teacher's brother, the fireman, had been seriously wounded in the tower's collapse, but he was alive.
There was a man from my town - I'll call him Liam Hartford - who was about a year older than my dad, and they had been friends in high school. Liam was an all-star football player, who later became an FBI agent; my dad was a track runner who became a graphic designer. On September 11, Liam was working in New York City, in the Marriot at the foot of the World Trade Center. The planes collapsed, and Liam served his country by going up the stairs and down, bringing injured people to safety.
Right before the tower collapsed, Liam was in the Marriot Lobby at the ground floor of the World Trade Center. A policeman told him to get out, to escape, but Liam said a co-worker was trapped, and he had to reach him. Liam quickly ran through the North Tower concourse and up the staircase, and that was the last anyone saw of him alive. The tower collapsed five minutes later, the walls shattering as the weight of the building crashed down onto Liam. They found his thighbone, burned and black.
At Liam's funeral, the director of the FBI came to our city, as well as the Secretary of State, and other important people, and reportedly George Bush himself. Snipers lay on the roof opposite our church as all these high government figures escorted the casket of Liam Hartford down the church steps. It seemed the whole town came to his funeral and services, and we all walked home to our houses in a daze.
The world knows what happened next; Osama bin Laden was fingered as the culprit, and our nation mourned the three thousand dead, and Congress passed the Patriot Act, and we invaded Afghanistan...but that was the story as I know it, as an 11-year-old from North Jersey, who knew New York City as his second home.
They say that people from around New York have too much emotional connection to 9/11 to make decisions about it...maybe that's true. I know I'll never forget that day, no matter how far I am away from New York, and I know my mom will never forget the screams of the fireman as he died...
I'll never forget watching the towers burn to the ground, looking at New York over the Palisades, never forget my Spanish teacher leaving the school in tears, never forget when Courtney realized her dad was never coming home from work that day, never forget the solemn dignity of Liam's funeral, and above all, I'll never forget watching the city burn, the immense tower of smoke and fire rising into the air higher than the clouds, a dark ghost reflected in the Hudson River...
...and I don't want to. New York will always remember the destruction and tears of September 11th, and I'll always know the good and evil in the world. There will always be evil, the hijackers mercilessly killing the innocents, Osama bin Laden praising the attacks, Palestinians cheering for the death of my friend's parents...
...but there will be good to counter evil. There will be Liam Hartfords to go up the stairs into the fire against the face of death, to rescue those in trouble, and lay down their lives for something higher.
It's been five years and I can still recall perfectly the look and scent of the smoke rising off the WTC, and the looks on classmates faces when they came back to school, their parents dead. Five years go by in an instant.
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Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-12 08:58:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2006-09-12 08:42:20 (#)
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1. Stop writing so well
2. Stop being so damn young!
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1. Possible
2. Impossible
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2006-09-12 08:42:20 EDT (#)
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1. Stop writing so well
2. Stop being so damn young!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-09-11 17:42:38 EDT (#)
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I was probably only off by a year or two on the "paste" thing.
And you're lying about eating your boogers.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-11 15:53:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-09-11 14:27:30 (#)
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You were in 6th grade? Good grief.
I already know what you were doing on September 11...
...picking your boogers and eating them, checking the mirror every five minutes for zits...eating paste...trying not to have your voice crack when you had to speak to a girl to sak what that night's homework assigment was that you missed because you weren't paying attention...eating PB & J's with the crusts cut off for lunch...and plotting your after-school meeting with the rest of the Geek Squad to play some fucking video games that I never heard of.
How much of THAT did I nail?
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Eating boogers - Nope
Looking in mirror - Perhaps
Eating paste - No
Cracks in voice - Yes
Talked to girls - Yes
Paid Attention - not really
PBJ with cut off crusts - No, I liked the crusts
Planning geek squad meeting - Yep.
Video game - woo banjo kazooie. now you made me want to play it again, I'll have to dig it out of the attic
Too busy though.
Submitted by Uberjunkie (user info) at 2006-09-11 14:42:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:21:23 (#)
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"Some teachers were crying that day, and we didn't know why. We were confused, but we didn't read too much into it. The teachers were certainly not informing us that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center, and another had hit the Pentagon, and another had exploded in Pennsylvania."
I find this incomprehensible. I was in 8th grade when the Challenger exploded, and we got told almost immediately. How much lack of respect for the students would you have to have to keep them in the dark until 3 pm?
I still feel a little sick to my stomach everytime I'm on a plane into Newark and I get a look at the NYC skyline with no towers.
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I was also in the 8th grade when the Challenger exploded. They rolled televisions in to the classrooms and we all watched.
I was on the way to work when the planes hit the towers and since I worked across the street from the Federal Building in Los Angeles I was sent straight home as soon as I arrived. I stayed home for two more days watching the events on T.V. and crying.
These memories remind me of when people recount where they were when Kennedy was shot. Some days in U.S. history are just huge events and if you live through them, you never forget where you were and what you were doing.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-09-11 14:27:30 EDT (#)
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You were in 6th grade? Good grief.
I already know what you were doing on September 11...
...picking your boogers and eating them, checking the mirror every five minutes for zits...eating paste...trying not to have your voice crack when you had to speak to a girl to sak what that night's homework assigment was that you missed because you weren't paying attention...eating PB & J's with the crusts cut off for lunch...and plotting your after-school meeting with the rest of the Geek Squad to play some fucking video games that I never heard of.
How much of THAT did I nail?
Submitted by kreutzf1 (user info) at 2006-09-11 14:09:59 EDT (#)
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Why in the world is a post like this getting so much anger in responce. I don't care if you hate American politics or if you think George Bush should jump off a cliff, this is a somber day and you should respect that. Today is not a day for hate and anger or advancement of political agendas. Today, is merely a day of remembrance. Tomorrow, you can start your activism, again but today, just calm down and let live.
Your post was beautiful. Thank you
Submitted by Shaun_Rocks (user info) at 2006-09-11 04:47:13 EDT (#)
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I remember sitting in my film class, watching it in disbelief. I live in Chicago and we kept hearing things on the news about planes or carbombs going off at the Sears Tower. When I think back on that, I can still feel the exact same and remember exactly what was going through my mind.
And to any jackass that says it was all a setup or some such bullshit. For a post like this, or rather, for a person that had this kind of experiance; the feelings on that day are real no matter what. The experiance is one that'll be in the mind forever.
This post was superbly written. I know you don't need the approval of some random guy on this site, but I am very impressed.
Submitted by dr_weazel (user info) at 2006-09-10 23:13:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-10 22:23:54 (#)
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Submitted by dr_weazel (user info) at 2006-09-10 17:54:42 (#)
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I remember watching live on TV as the second plane hit, and then watching both towers fall to the ground, it was about 2am here in NZ.
All I could think was: "Karma's a bitch, huh?"
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From a political standpoint perhaps. If I understand it correctly though, Osama attacked us because we support Israel, we have troops in the holy land of Saudi Arabia, and he dislikes our immoral culture. Still, my friends' parents shouldn't have had to bear the retaliation against our country's policies.
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Much like the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi and Afghani civillians killed by U.S troops shouldn't have had to bear the retaliation against Al Qaidas policies. Hmm?
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-10 22:23:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by dr_weazel (user info) at 2006-09-10 17:54:42 (#)
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I remember watching live on TV as the second plane hit, and then watching both towers fall to the ground, it was about 2am here in NZ.
All I could think was: "Karma's a bitch, huh?"
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From a political standpoint perhaps. If I understand it correctly though, Osama attacked us because we support Israel, we have troops in the holy land of Saudi Arabia, and he dislikes our immoral culture. Still, my friends' parents shouldn't have had to bear the retaliation against our country's policies.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-10 22:19:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2006-09-10 21:57:28 (#)
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Now that I've read it, beautifully written.
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Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2006-09-10 21:53:16 (#)
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Amazing, I thought at 19 I was one of the younger people here.
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D-Prime is 16 as well, as is maltese evidently. Bob is 17-18, and Electro came here when he was 16.
Thanks.
Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2006-09-10 21:57:28 EDT (#)
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Now that I've read it, beautifully written.
Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2006-09-10 21:53:16 EDT (#)
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Amazing, I thought at 19 I was one of the younger people here.
Submitted by JulsInsane (user info) at 2006-09-10 20:58:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 21:28:46 (#)
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Aren't you all tired of all this propaganda YET?
Seriously, enough is enough. I get to look at misinformed propaganda on every fucking channel and every fucking radio station already without everyone on ubersite repeating it.
If you want to know the truth about that fucking day, you will get your fucking heads out of the sand, open your eyes, and do a little alternative investigation. Until you do that, you will be nothing but slaves to the overarching plan of world domination and neo-colonialism now well underway.
Seriously, you all know where I stand on this issue, but do you understand WHY I think this way? Have you fully applied yourselves to try and understand it? The way I see it, I have continually offered you all the tools necessary to find true knowledge in these fucked up times. I have, over and over again, linked you to stories and exposed plots that explicitly frame the heart of the matter.
If you continue to live in the dark, you will all be sorry one day. You will wonder why you didn't listen to me; you will wonder why you didn't see the obvious sooner, but by then it will be too late.
If you keep believing the propaganda you see on your fucking TV, there will be no end to the suffering that will befall us.
I hate it that this is the case, but it is.
Oh, and Rob...fuck you. Just fuck off. I'm sick of your bleating. Take your half-hearted 'alliance' and shove it straight up your ass. I don't want it.
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This wasn't about politics, this was about feeling and emotion.
I really hope this a characture that you have created rather than a real reflection of who you are. If you are in fact this person in real life, you missed the point.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2006-09-10 20:35:36 EDT (#)
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You know, someone just HEATBUTTED ME AND BROKE MY NOSE, it happened just after 12 o'clock so september 11 is now officially also a bad day for me.
Submitted by dr_weazel (user info) at 2006-09-10 17:54:42 EDT (#)
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I remember watching live on TV as the second plane hit, and then watching both towers fall to the ground, it was about 2am here in NZ.
All I could think was: "Karma's a bitch, huh?"
Submitted by pandora (user info) at 2006-09-10 02:08:03 EDT (#)
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You're an excellent writer, and you express yourself better than many of the people who are older than you. Thank you for sharing this personal, first-hand account with us.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 23:55:16 EDT (#)
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Bandwagons are cool.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 14:29:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-09-09 07:06:49 (#)
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Sep-09-Sat-2006/news/9547988.html
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Bizarre...I saw that happen. It was all so quick, the guy sped away, knocked over some cars and the cop shot him through the window. The police were all over that scene.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 14:27:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2006-09-09 12:15:19 (#)
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This is an evil generation.
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My generation?
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t-t-t-alking bout my generation...
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2006-09-09 12:15:19 EDT (#)
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This is an evil generation.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-09 10:08:52 EDT (#)
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hahaha, an alliance!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-09-09 07:06:49 EDT (#)
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Sep-09-Sat-2006/news/9547988.html
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2006-09-09 06:58:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Chillax (user info) at 2006-09-09 06:57:38 EDT (#)
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'The towers took 10 seconds to collapse...if you dropped a basketball off the roof at the time of the collapse, the roof and the basketball would hit the ground at the the same time...'
Forgot the second part of this quote, that made it just that much worse. It runs:
'The towers took 10 seconds to collapse...if you dropped a basketball off the roof at the time of the collapse, the roof and the basketball would hit the ground at the the same time...so if planes didn't bring down the towers, what did?'
AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
<claws out eyes>
Submitted by Chillax (user info) at 2006-09-09 06:55:54 EDT (#)
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What's 6th Grade in America? I can remember seeing the attacks on TV in my kitchen in...3rd year, which in Belfast is 13 years old...I'm guessing 6th grade is similar? Or is it 11-year-olds? I can't remember. Good post, anyway.
"I watched the Loose Change video a few weeks ago so now I have mixed emotions on the whole thing."
If no-one ever watched that again, I would be a happier man. The total fucking stupidity that went into making that video depressed the fuck out of me. I sat and watched it one day to see what the fuss was about, and I think I nearly had a brain hemmorage (spellcheck is for pussies) at this bit -
'The towers took 10 seconds to collapse...if you dropped a basketball off the roof at the time of the collapse, the roof and the basketball would hit the ground at the the same time...'
Excuse me? In 1st year (that's 11 years old) I learnt some physics. That physics, that they taught to an 11-year-old, was that, discounting air resistence, objects accelerate under freefall at EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING SPEED.
The ball and the roof would hit the floor at the same time?
NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK!
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT PROVE!?
WHY THE FUCK MUST YOU SAY IT IN A SELF-SATISFIED, CONDESCENDING MANNER AS IF YOU KNOW THE KEY TO THE FUCKING UNIVERSE!?
FUCK YOU. FUCK YOUR FAMILY. FUCK YOUR ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM, YOU CUNT.
Christ...right now, I'm playing "Graceland" by Paul Simon - America can really produce extremes of excellent and utter, utter, utter cunts.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-09-09 01:20:44 EDT (#)
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Wow, Brad.
You've lost your only ally because you can't take critisizm in any form.
Wow.
I know you're trying to paint yourself as a martyr for your time, but really, why?
Like Rob said, and I've said before.
You're a bright guy.
You're wasting all this fucking brainpower on shit that just doesn't make sense.
You're taking up hours of your day, and I'm guessing cash from your wallet, trying to understand complexities of something that is so somple, you're missing it.
I don't, and never have hated you, Brad.
I actually pity you.
And feel sorry for what you've become.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-09-09 01:15:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 21:28:46 (#)
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"standard blathering completely devoid of anything even approaching tact."
"Oh, and Rob...fuck you. Just fuck off. I'm sick of your bleating. Take your half-hearted 'alliance' and shove it straight up your ass. I don't want it."
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> start bleat
Any particular reason you feel the need to be such a cunt to the people who actually like you?
I have been nothing but completely honest and sincere with every communication I have ever had with you. There is nothing half-hearted about any of the things I have said on this site either in support of you or calling attention to specific things you say or do that I happen to disagree with.
This?
This is just petty. And hurtful.
You are a disappointment Mr. Tooth. If that was the goal... you win.
...and 'alliance'?
Seriously?
That is the most childish, tree-fort bullshit I've read on this entire site.
I like you, I agree with most of what you have to say. I think you are fucking brilliant and have outstanding potential to actually be a very important person in this world.
I ALSO think you are a fucking arrogant dickhead, bi-polar, stubborn, insecure, reactionary, obsessive, and so god-damned afraid of your own demons that you pre-occupy yourself with 'conspiracies' and mindless bickering with stupid people largely to avoid any meaningful introspection into why you are so tragically unhappy.
>sigh<
> end bleat.
Submitted by Saeki (user info) at 2006-09-09 01:04:08 EDT (#)
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I remember hearing about the attacks in 7th grade in Korea. It was the 12th over there though.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-09 00:47:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
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And I suppose all the innocents who died in Iraq (about 40000 now) and various other locations due to American interventions were all terrorists, right?
If you bomb people, expect to be bombed. Such is life.
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Amazing how the IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE (In its nature is improvised, therefore its nto by any means conventional or massively manufactured by anyone, except its components which are cellphones and fucking garage door openers) is the number one killer of Iraqi's and Coalition Soldiers in Iraq, but we somehow invented that... and we also invented the idea of religious sectarian violence where Protestants kill Catholics on a massive scale numbering in the thousands a month... but that is all of America's doing.
Your attempts to post for shock value and prove that you are Fashionably Anti-American (a trend caught on by most and supported by drooling and pounding on a keypad) leave most of us with a sense of awe that someone is really this stupid.
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amazing that there wasn't any IED's being blown up before America entered Iraq, for no reason. ever thought of that?
and what's stupid here is you comparing America and a bunch of brainwashed desert idiots on the same standards. these people fight with what they have within the context they are subjected to, and it works. besides, bombing people from 15000 feet is no different than strapping yourself with C4. it's just more impersonal and takes less balls.
this has fuck all to do with pro/anti-americanism. i am not condoning anything nor am I blaming America. but I know that people just don't blow up themselves because they woke up one morning and said : "hey, let's hate America"
so perhaps if the West reflected on that a little we could work on our approach and stop failing miserably on this "War on Terror" thing.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 00:25:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
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And I suppose all the innocents who died in Iraq (about 40000 now) and various other locations due to American interventions were all terrorists, right?
If you bomb people, expect to be bombed. Such is life.
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We're not the ones deliberately targeting civilians to make a point. We have some civilization. To bring up another example, the IRA always attacked military buildings, and would give warnings for non-military to clear out before attacks.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 00:23:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 21:28:46 (#)
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Aren't you all tired of all this propaganda YET?
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Did you read this? It certainly wasn't propaganda, I made a concentrated effort to keep any politics or bombast out. What's in the post that you disagree with?
Honestly, I've seen Loose Change and read some of your sources on how the wtc was rigged, and I don't believe it. The government might have known about the attacks, but they didn't plan them.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 00:21:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:58:48 (#)
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I didn't read this but I looked at the picture. I'm sick of hearing about this. I've been sick of hearing about it for almost 5 years now. It was very sad and it sucks that all those people died but talking about it 5 years later isn't going to bring them back. If I had been one of the people who died that day, I sure wouldn't want people talking about it 5 years later. I'd want them to shut the fuck up, get over it, and live out the rest of their lives doing whatever makes them happy.
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You missed the point.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-09 00:19:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-09-08 15:58:40 (#)
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I woke up late that morning because I had the day off.
When I came to "Elliot in the Morning" was still on the radio, and the tone was a bit serious and frantic. At first I thought it was all just one of the show's bits. Sure it's in bad taste, but the exaggeration of having the WTC and the Pentagon hit really sold it for me.
Then I wondered how they got the callers to play along.
Then I turned on the news.
Turns out that while I was sleeping, the whole world had gone to flame.
I seem to have this thing with receiving news in a fashion that results in me thinking it's a gag. When I heard about Princess Diana's car crash it was late on a Saturday night. I wound up thinking it was an SNL skit.
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I saw Steve Irwin's death first on Uber, and thought it was some kind of joke, linked with a fake article. Then...
Submitted by LSD420 (user info) at 2006-09-08 23:45:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by EchoBoxing (user info) at 2006-09-08 23:35:41 (#)
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i remember cracking a joke that the pentagon had become a triangle. my brother laughed so hard he spit up his drink.
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I just spit up my drink too. That's hilarious!
Submitted by EchoBoxing (user info) at 2006-09-08 23:35:41 EDT (#)
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i remember cracking a joke that the pentagon had become a triangle. my brother laughed so hard he spit up his drink.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 21:28:46 EDT (#)
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Aren't you all tired of all this propaganda YET?
Seriously, enough is enough. I get to look at misinformed propaganda on every fucking channel and every fucking radio station already without everyone on ubersite repeating it.
If you want to know the truth about that fucking day, you will get your fucking heads out of the sand, open your eyes, and do a little alternative investigation. Until you do that, you will be nothing but slaves to the overarching plan of world domination and neo-colonialism now well underway.
Seriously, you all know where I stand on this issue, but do you understand WHY I think this way? Have you fully applied yourselves to try and understand it? The way I see it, I have continually offered you all the tools necessary to find true knowledge in these fucked up times. I have, over and over again, linked you to stories and exposed plots that explicitly frame the heart of the matter.
If you continue to live in the dark, you will all be sorry one day. You will wonder why you didn't listen to me; you will wonder why you didn't see the obvious sooner, but by then it will be too late.
If you keep believing the propaganda you see on your fucking TV, there will be no end to the suffering that will befall us.
I hate it that this is the case, but it is.
Oh, and Rob...fuck you. Just fuck off. I'm sick of your bleating. Take your half-hearted 'alliance' and shove it straight up your ass. I don't want it.
Submitted by whysenheimer (user info) at 2006-09-08 21:25:08 EDT (#)
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Tedious.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-09-08 20:48:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 19:20:14 (#)
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You're all fucking crazy. You're completely an utterly in the dark.
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I will say this once, Brad, and only once.
Fuck you you god damned asshole.
Do not reply to this post again, and fuck you one more time.
Submitted by Maltese (user info) at 2006-09-08 20:35:13 EDT (#)
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One of the few Uber posts to ever make me cry.
This kicked my emotions in the ass.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2006-09-08 19:40:21 EDT (#)
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Osama bin Laden was fingered
heh
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-09-08 19:35:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 19:20:14 (#)
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You're all fucking crazy. You're completely an utterly in the dark.
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More unhelpful posturing.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-09-08 19:20:14 EDT (#)
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You're all fucking crazy. You're completely an utterly in the dark.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-09-08 18:50:37 EDT (#)
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Amazing how the IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE (In its nature is improvised, therefore its nto by any means conventional or massively manufactured by anyone, except its components which are cellphones and fucking garage door openers) is the number one killer of Iraqi's and Coalition Soldiers in Iraq, but we somehow invented that... and we also invented the idea of religious sectarian violence where Protestants kill Catholics on a massive scale numbering in the thousands a month... but that is all of America's doing.
Your attempts to post for shock value and prove that you are Fashionably Anti-American (a trend caught on by most and supported by drooling and pounding on a keypad) leave most of us with a sense of awe that someone is really this stupid.
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Lame.
Honest criticism of tragedy is still valid.
It is amazing how adamant some of you people are about remaining willfully ignorant.
A deeper understanding of ALL the tragedy in this world is needed... and bullshit posturing of ANY kind is defeatist and dishonest. Death and destruction are not exclusive to any nation... and YES the United States has killed many innocent people in pursuit of larger agendas.
That is a fact. Actual numbers are irrelevant - and distractive. Bombs have killed innocent people.
Those people tend to leave surviving friends and families with resentment and blind hatred and in some special cases they decide to blow themselves up trying to kill as many fuckers as possible... or slam planes into buildings.
It's a painfully understandable cycle... yet inexplicably ignored and repeated.
Caul made some good points... so did some of you... except Jack. He seems goes out of his way to beautifully craft bad ones.
Bottom line is we are a society filled with ignorant fucking retards of all cultures and religions. Until we change that sad reality we will just continue to circle the bowl with all of the shit.
Lucky us.
- Oh, I didn't actually read all of this post... but the parts I did read are pretty amazing. You are incredibly talented and ambitious my friend. I have no doubt you will be an important person one day.
Submitted by LeaderOfMen (user info) at 2006-09-08 18:16:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:01:28 (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:34:03 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
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And I suppose all the innocents who died in Iraq (about 40000 now) and various other locations due to American interventions were all terrorists, right?
If you bomb people, expect to be bombed. Such is life.
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Amazing how the IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE (In its nature is improvised, therefore its nto by any means conventional or massively manufactured by anyone, except its components which are cellphones and fucking garage door openers) is the number one killer of Iraqi's and Coalition Soldiers in Iraq, but we somehow invented that... and we also invented the idea of religious sectarian violence where Protestants kill Catholics on a massive scale numbering in the thousands a month... but that is all of America's doing.
Your attempts to post for shock value and prove that you are Fashionably Anti-American (a trend caught on by most and supported by drooling and pounding on a keypad) leave most of us with a sense of awe that someone is really this stupid.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-09-08 18:14:44 EDT (#)
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scarf up another for the best ever
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 18:00:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:51:13 (#)
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FORTY THOUSAND? AMERICANS HAVE KILLED FORTY THOUSAND?
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Not directly. But the intervention caused it.
You who promote the erradication of muslims are really not in position to ask for compassion.
All blame aside, I think it would be better for the West to not cry like a bitch everytime it gets attacked. It only makes us look like perfect targets.
As I said on another post, we should take lessons from the British phlegm after the London attacks, among others in their history.
Anyway, people are touchy about this, which is normal, so discussions about 9/11 are worthless considering the amount of emotions invovled.
So let's just leave it at that. I surrender :-D
Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:58:48 EDT (#)
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I didn't read this but I looked at the picture. I'm sick of hearing about this. I've been sick of hearing about it for almost 5 years now. It was very sad and it sucks that all those people died but talking about it 5 years later isn't going to bring them back. If I had been one of the people who died that day, I sure wouldn't want people talking about it 5 years later. I'd want them to shut the fuck up, get over it, and live out the rest of their lives doing whatever makes them happy.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:51:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:01:28 (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:34:03 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
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And I suppose all the innocents who died in Iraq (about 40000 now)
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FORTY THOUSAND? AMERICANS HAVE KILLED FORTY THOUSAND?
How can you be so full of shit without having had your asshole sutured shut?
Submitted by KindaNews (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:44:06 EDT (#)
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Enough with the goddamn maps.
Go to school, study hard, and work on your dialogue, you little fuckhead.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:10:36 EDT (#)
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don't go think I'm heartless. it'sjust that the amount that you care about brown people is about the amount that i care about you.
it's just normal.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:08:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:42:24 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yes, because the thousands of aging janitors, young out-of-college interns, police officers, rescue workers, and 2-year-olds in the building's daycare were anti-Islamic imperialists bound on allowing the evil western culture to pervade the world.
How can you justify blaming the innocents? To us in the City, it wasn't the holocaust but it destroyed families very close to mine.
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I'm not blaming anyone. It was a sad thing. I didn't feel very good that day either.
How long did it take you to get over the countless civilians that have died due to American foreing policies? A few seconds? The time to change the channel to watch Entertainment Tonight?
So why should foreigners care more about 9/11, like it was the worse thing in history? Because you're American? Are you that special?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 17:01:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:34:03 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
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And I suppose all the innocents who died in Iraq (about 40000 now) and various other locations due to American interventions were all terrorists, right?
If you bomb people, expect to be bombed. Such is life.
Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2006-09-08 16:51:21 EDT (#)
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I was actually listening to Springsteen's "Devils and Dust" while reading this. I think the combo really drives the point home.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-09-08 15:58:40 EDT (#)
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I woke up late that morning because I had the day off.
When I came to "Elliot in the Morning" was still on the radio, and the tone was a bit serious and frantic. At first I thought it was all just one of the show's bits. Sure it's in bad taste, but the exaggeration of having the WTC and the Pentagon hit really sold it for me.
Then I wondered how they got the callers to play along.
Then I turned on the news.
Turns out that while I was sleeping, the whole world had gone to flame.
I seem to have this thing with receiving news in a fashion that results in me thinking it's a gag. When I heard about Princess Diana's car crash it was late on a Saturday night. I wound up thinking it was an SNL skit.
Submitted by littledan (user info) at 2006-09-08 15:48:22 EDT (#)
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Wow.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-09-08 15:34:44 EDT (#)
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I still have contempt for the actions of my school that day.
They refused to tell us what happened. All they told us was that New York City was BOMBED!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking MIG's were flying overhead in new york dropping bombs and the teachers and staff just let us sit there are talk about what might have happened.
It wasn't until I walked through the door that day forgetting to pet my dog and rushing to the TV. New York was billowed in smoked. It looked like the whole city was destroyed.
For awhile I thought the fuckers took out the whole city. Then I finally saw the footage of what really happened. I was never so scared in my life.
This also makes me think of the president addressing the nation talking about how we had dropped bombs on baghdad.
I was in 8th grade at the time. I swore into the US Army July 8th of this year. I have no problem with it but I may end up fighting in a conflict that started when i was 13 or 14. Fuck I can't even remember.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2006-09-08 14:19:08 EDT (#)
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I was running my own business in satellite communications at the time and was walking my dogs together with my new employee that afternoon. Being in the Netherlands and preparing for the one major event of the year, the IBC, I was in a good mood because of all the money I was making that week. Out in the woods my employee received a call from his girlfriend informing us about what was going on in the USA. At first we didn't believe it but we grabbed the dogs and went to my place. The first plane just hit the north tower as we switched on the tv. The news gathering informed us there were more planes suspected to be hijacked and we saw the second one hit the south tower live.
My employee went to his girlfriend and I sat home alone watching tv and I cried.
On monday we set up the most of our equipment on the Amsterdam RAI where the IBC is held and we had the tuesday off because of the cabling being not in place yet. Returning to Amsterdam on wednesday the effect of the terror attack slowly dripped in. Exhibiting companies who had their equipment there faced the problem not getting staff over to Europe and vice versa. The IBC being the International Broadcast Convention we were able to watch the aftermath on the biggest plasma and LCD screens of the world in an environment that stayed empty because there was no one coming to Amsterdam anymore.
Usually the build up towards the start of the exhibition was very hectic and stressy but that week was like we were working in a cathedral of high tech and the people were silently going about there business.
Today at 12:00 CET the IBC 2006 started and this time I'm not around anymore but I know that the atmosphere will never be the way it was back in 2001.
No competitors, all humans.
Thanks again for an outstanding post.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:20:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:15:27 (#)
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I'm Canadian, hence my outsiders view.
Please don't get me wrong here. I'm not one of them Yankee bashing Cancucks. I have friends in the US that I visit on occasion.
What happened that day hit home for me, just not as hard and not for the same reasons.
I didn't write my below review to strike up an argument or demean what you have to say, so much as to relay an honest recollection of those horrible events from an outside perspective.
I hate what happened. Canadian boys are dying because of it right now.
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I'm definitely not criticizing your view at all, I don't think you're demeaning it.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:19:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:14:04 (#)
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In Minnesota here. The closest I came to it was a friend, I'd gone to high school with him, who'd moved out to NY to run his own web development company. When the first plane hit, I tried to call him, then got onto AIM. He was alright, in his apartment actually when it hit, though he said he could feel the vibrations; guess everyone could for quite a distance. I just remember how astonished he was; left an away message that said "If you can see this, than New York is still standing."
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There was 24/7 coverage of it in my area. One of the first majorly publicized deaths was a famous NYFD chaplain who was killed by a falling body when he was administering last rights to another pulverized body on the ground. Very high emotions.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:15:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:12:23 (#)
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very well written veers veeeeery close to hyperbole at times but emotions were obviously high.
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Thanks, I was trying to be as honest as possible without any bombast or politicism.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:15:27 EDT (#)
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I'm Canadian, hence my outsiders view.
Please don't get me wrong here. I'm not one of them Yankee bashing Cancucks. I have friends in the US that I visit on occasion.
What happened that day hit home for me, just not as hard and not for the same reasons.
I didn't write my below review to strike up an argument or demean what you have to say, so much as to relay an honest recollection of those horrible events from an outside perspective.
I hate what happened. Canadian boys are dying because of it right now.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:14:04 EDT (#)
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In Minnesota here. The closest I came to it was a friend, I'd gone to high school with him, who'd moved out to NY to run his own web development company. When the first plane hit, I tried to call him, then got onto AIM. He was alright, in his apartment actually when it hit, though he said he could feel the vibrations; guess everyone could for quite a distance. I just remember how astonished he was; left an away message that said "If you can see this, than New York is still standing."
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:12:23 EDT (#)
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very well written veers veeeeery close to hyperbole at times but emotions were obviously high.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:10:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:03:33 (#)
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I was at home getting ready for class when I got a call from my then wife who was visiting her parents:
Her: "You gotta turn on the TV! Someone just flew a plane into one of the world trade center buildings."
Me: "In New York? You serious?"
Her: "Yeah, it was a passenger jet, a big one! Shocking huh?"
Me: "Not really."
Looking back on it, my reaction comes off as cold but I don't think it was a lack of caring so much as confirmation of the suspicion ALOT of people outside your country had; Which was that your foreign policy was going to bite you in the ass one day.
I skipped class that day and sat glued to the TV. Later, when the second building came down, I couldn't help but tear up at the loss of so many innocent lives, and the prospect of the unpleasant changes in store for the world.
I wasn't surprised when it happened. Horrified definitely... just not surprised.
That's my outsider memory of it. It was an evil day.
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What part of the country were you from?
I know that with a lot of non-New Yorkers, the news just didn't strike home. I was at a conference in Washington, and kept having to explain this story to people who asked me about it and how it affected me. The post kinda grew out of that.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2006-09-08 13:03:33 EDT (#)
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I was at home getting ready for class when I got a call from my then wife who was visiting her parents:
Her: "You gotta turn on the TV! Someone just flew a plane into one of the world trade center buildings."
Me: "In New York? You serious?"
Her: "Yeah, it was a passenger jet, a big one! Shocking huh?"
Me: "Not really."
Looking back on it, my reaction comes off as cold but I don't think it was a lack of caring so much as confirmation of the suspicion ALOT of people outside your country had; Which was that your foreign policy was going to bite you in the ass one day.
I skipped class that day and sat glued to the TV. Later, when the second building came down, I couldn't help but tear up at the loss of so many innocent lives, and the prospect of the unpleasant changes in store for the world.
I wasn't surprised when it happened. Horrified definitely... just not surprised.
That's my outsider memory of it. It was an evil day.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2006-09-08 12:41:45 EDT (#)
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Very, very well written and man are you still young. Without any political BS from my end too I hope you'd never have to go through 6th grade again;-)
+2Live
Submitted by Void_Where_Prohibited (user info) at 2006-09-08 12:29:16 EDT (#)
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I wish I could +3, +4 or even +5 this. You are a very good writer and your ability shines even greater when one takes your age into consideration.
9/11 was the defining moment of my generation. Just as JFK being assassinated was the defining moment of my mother's generation.
I remember going from a depressed wife and mother of two who went to bed every night by 9 pm in an effort to avoid the emptiness of her own life to being a depressed wife and mother who sat up till all hours every night for months after 9/11 happened being a witness to the evilness of man. And mourning the loss of so many people. The sheer number involved was mind boggling. The horrors those people must have gone through. It makes me cry every time I think of it regardless that it was 5 years ago or 50. Just as I do when I watch or read something about the Holocaust.
The true horror hit me as I sat watching the footage of the two french filmmakers who were making a documentary just as events were unfolding. Watching firemen, police and rescure workers stand in one of the WTC buildings and seeing the confusion on their faces as they tried to make sense of the thumps they were hearing. Then seeing the absolute horror in their faces as they realized the sound was made by those who chose to jump rather than burn to death as they were raining down to the canopy and sidewalks. I could not imagine ever having to make that kind of decision. The very idea that a mother, father, daughter, son, grandparent, HUMAN BEING, should ever be forced to make that type of decision just tears me apart.
Eh, I'm rambling now.
9/11 should never be forgotten. If only in honor of those people who lost so much that day. Which is all of us the world over.
Innocence gone.
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2006-09-08 12:03:32 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 12:00:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:53:14 (#)
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I hope this starts a bandwagon of posts.
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I think it's happening...
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 12:00:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:54:09 (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:40:38 (#)
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That was a good remembrance.
However, the statement "September 11th of the year 2001 was my first full day of 6th grade." made me feel very very old
yeah, me too. I think I was in sixth grade when the challenger blew. All the tvs were turned on in the classrooms and we watched the coverage most of the day.
nicely written without bringing any of the extraneous bullshit into it.
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Thanks. I didn't want to bring in any political points.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:59:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:59:24 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
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so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Heartless cunt or posturing dickhead?
YOU make the call!
Good piece here, kid.
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I'd say posturing.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:59:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
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so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Heartless cunt or posturing dickhead?
YOU make the call!
Good piece here, kid.
Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:54:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:40:38 (#)
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That was a good remembrance.
However, the statement "September 11th of the year 2001 was my first full day of 6th grade." made me feel very very old
yeah, me too. I think I was in sixth grade when the challenger blew. All the tvs were turned on in the classrooms and we watched the coverage most of the day.
nicely written without bringing any of the extraneous bullshit into it.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:53:14 EDT (#)
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I hope this starts a bandwagon of posts.
Submitted by JoeyG (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:51:12 EDT (#)
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Nice to see a decent 9/11 post for a change.
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:49:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:39:38 (#)
I'm used to it now, but every now and then I remember looking over the deck or walking through the WTC lobbies...
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I haven't lived in the area for about a dozen years, so the periodic visits haven't been enough to erase the expectations built up from years of memories.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:44:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:22:24 (#)
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It is weird, because I kind of agree with Caul, yet I really like this piece.
I guess that I will let my heart guide me and give a +2.
I think this is mainly down to the way it was written, without making a political point, just simple recollections and also the fact that I too can remember hearing that day unfold 3000 miles away minute for minute, which is more than I can say about the 7/7 bombs in London.
There again on 7/7 I was drunk.
-Dave
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7/7 a bunch of my Irish relatives were at my house, and they woke me up to say that bombs were going off all over London. Being that some of my family is ex-IRA, their emotions were mixed, but they sympathized with the innocents.
Submitted by Professional_Peon (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:43:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:40:38 (#)
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That was a good remembrance.
However, the statement "September 11th of the year 2001 was my first full day of 6th grade." made me feel very very old... on September 11th, 2001, my wife was about to get pregnant and we spent the day laying together watching the news and calling New Yorkers we knew.
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Tell me about it. My son was almost 1 at that time. All I wanted to do was go home and hold him, but we couldn't leave work once the news of the plane crash in PA hit.
Everyone was in a panic to get home.
I watched the Loose Change video a few weeks ago so now I have mixed emotions on the whole thing.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:42:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yes, because the thousands of aging janitors, young out-of-college interns, police officers, rescue workers, and 2-year-olds in the building's daycare were anti-Islamic imperialists bound on allowing the evil western culture to pervade the world.
How can you justify blaming the innocents? To us in the City, it wasn't the holocaust but it destroyed families very close to mine.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:39:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:21:23 (#)
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"Some teachers were crying that day, and we didn't know why. We were confused, but we didn't read too much into it. The teachers were certainly not informing us that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center, and another had hit the Pentagon, and another had exploded in Pennsylvania."
I find this incomprehensible. I was in 8th grade when the Challenger exploded, and we got told almost immediately. How much lack of respect for the students would you have to have to keep them in the dark until 3 pm?
I still feel a little sick to my stomach everytime I'm on a plane into Newark and I get a look at the NYC skyline with no towers.
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They refused to tell us because they thought it would traumatise us. As if the kids who lost their parents wouldn't be traumatized anyway.
I'm used to it now, but every now and then I remember looking over the deck or walking through the WTC lobbies...
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:37:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sworn (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:02:34 (#)
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That was amazing. I might not be American but the 9/11 attacks effected everyone in the world. Very emotional piece of writing, i shed a few tears.
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thank you
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:35:57 EDT (#)
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well written.
very depressing.
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:34:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 (#)
so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
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Yeah, all those kids who lost their parents really got what was coming to them! You narcissistic douchebag.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:22:24 EDT (#)
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It is weird, because I kind of agree with Caul, yet I really like this piece.
I guess that I will let my heart guide me and give a +2.
I think this is mainly down to the way it was written, without making a political point, just simple recollections and also the fact that I too can remember hearing that day unfold 3000 miles away minute for minute, which is more than I can say about the 7/7 bombs in London.
There again on 7/7 I was drunk.
-Dave
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:21:23 EDT (#)
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"Some teachers were crying that day, and we didn't know why. We were confused, but we didn't read too much into it. The teachers were certainly not informing us that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center, and another had hit the Pentagon, and another had exploded in Pennsylvania."
I find this incomprehensible. I was in 8th grade when the Challenger exploded, and we got told almost immediately. How much lack of respect for the students would you have to have to keep them in the dark until 3 pm?
I still feel a little sick to my stomach everytime I'm on a plane into Newark and I get a look at the NYC skyline with no towers.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:14:34 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:53 EDT (#)
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so when do you plan on moving on, because frankly, the world is kinda tired of hearing about it. it wasn't the holocaust.
you just got a taste of your own medecine that day. in a spectacular way, I must say.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:11:26 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/92772
Submitted by sworn (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:02:34 EDT (#)
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That was amazing. I might not be American but the 9/11 attacks effected everyone in the world. Very emotional piece of writing, i shed a few tears.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2006-09-08 11:00:12 EDT (#)
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Memories of 9/11 are so ubiquitous in the media, that although I remember what I did that day, and how I felt, it's rare for me to read something that really hurls me right back there.
I am lucky in that I didn't personally know anyone who died that day. But I remember my little sister being stuck after attending a work function in the city. She couldn't get out as the roads were closed, and she called me as she was sitting alone outside a hotel looking at the smoke, when all she wanted was to be home with us.
This brings tears to my eyes. Thanks for sharing.
Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:56:16 EDT (#)
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Wow.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:52:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:43:59 (#)
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I like how you always put maps with things.
I tend to shy away from even well-intentioned 9/11 pieces partially because of the reaction they tend to receive which is "OMG 911 this is an amazing story/poem" even when everyone knows it's utter balls. In the years after 9/11 there was a rapid influx of patriotic literature, most of it complete shaft, but much of it held as wonderful, heart-warming stuff. As such, even somewhat capable or well-intentioned pieces I tend to dislike because of the way they're dealt with, and the assumptions of the author, intentional or no, ahead of time.
In your case, this is innocent and well-written, so the +2 was deserved.
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Maps are kind of my thing. I've seen some pretty bad poetry and 9/11 lit, but this wasn't meant to be that. It's just an account,
thanks.
Submitted by PokeyMen (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:52:07 EDT (#)
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Is anyone else sick and tired of being reminded of 9-11 all the damn time?
C'mon people. So some planes flew into a few major buildings, and some people died. NOT LIKELY IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN ANYTIME SOON!...especially with the Chimp in office.
Get over it and let's move on with our lives. It was FIVE YEARS AGO.
+2 cause this was well written though.
Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:46:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by pinkshoes (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:41:27 (#)
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I have to plus 2 this for the emotion.
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That's what I'm talking about. It's not necessarily wrong in this case, but in other cases, the subject matter should never speak for itself.
Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:43:59 EDT (#)
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I like how you always put maps with things.
I tend to shy away from even well-intentioned 9/11 pieces partially because of the reaction they tend to receive which is "OMG 911 this is an amazing story/poem" even when everyone knows it's utter balls. In the years after 9/11 there was a rapid influx of patriotic literature, most of it complete shaft, but much of it held as wonderful, heart-warming stuff. As such, even somewhat capable or well-intentioned pieces I tend to dislike because of the way they're dealt with, and the assumptions of the author, intentional or no, ahead of time.
In your case, this is innocent and well-written, so the +2 was deserved.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:43:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by pinkshoes (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:41:27 (#)
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I have to plus 2 this for the emotion.
My boss is wondering why I am crying at my desk.
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I nearly started to tear writing this. So many of my friend's dads and moms...
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:42:13 EDT (#)
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Excellently written, extremely effective. Emotionally compelling.
Submitted by pinkshoes (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:41:27 EDT (#)
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I have to plus 2 this for the emotion.
My boss is wondering why I am crying at my desk.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:40:38 EDT (#)
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That was a good remembrance.
However, the statement "September 11th of the year 2001 was my first full day of 6th grade." made me feel very very old... on September 11th, 2001, my wife was about to get pregnant and we spent the day laying together watching the news and calling New Yorkers we knew.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:39:37 EDT (#)
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it was special to me because september 11th was the first time I had ever dropped a tab of acid
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:39:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:37:46 (#)
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I'm really not sure whether I would +2 or -2 a September 11 post in general, but this is very well written and you're not a dick, so have a +2.
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Why -2 it?
Just take it at face value. I'm not trying to make a political statement, this is just my feelings as they were 5 years ago.
Submitted by goferforhire (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:37:46 EDT (#)
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I'm really not sure whether I would +2 or -2 a September 11 post in general, but this is very well written and you're not a dick, so have a +2.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-09-08 10:36:29 EDT (#)
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Mixed emotions after writing this now.