US Harbors Terrorists; UK Labels Free Speech "Organized Crime"; Welcome to Fascism in the 21st Century. (2503 hits)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (View user info) at 2006-10-11 12:13:31 EDT
The year is 1976. The date, October 6th.
73 people are killed when Cubana flight 455 explodes out of the sky from a terrorist bomb.
On board are 24 members of the Cuban fencing team, some gold medal winners.
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September 2006.
Near the 30th anniversary of the event, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela stands before the United Nations and tells of how one of the men responsible for the plane's, Luis Posada Carriles, was a CIA agent and on the payroll from the 1960s until mid-1976.
Even though declassified government documents (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB202/index.htm) confirm his claims, the major news media in the U.S. and around the world, focus on Chavez' "the devil was here" joke at the beginning of the speech, rather than the speech itself.
Why?
http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/chavez_slams_us_protection_posada_at_un.htm
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Why is the Associated Press trying to spin this like this Posada guy "warned the CIA" instead of carryied out the attacks himself, as the documents and his own acknowledements indicate? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cuba_cia_plane_bombing
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Can someone please explain to me why the CIA is employing and our justice system harboring a known terrorist - a murderer of 73 people - and refusing to extradite back to Cuba or Venezuela for prosecution?
Here is another account of the events that includes an interview with Posada Carriles' accomplice if you need more help explaining it to me: http://www.doublestandards.org/pertierra1.html
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On another note, I'd also like to know why the United Kingdom has banned free speech and the United States has found habeas corpus to be too cumbersome an institution to continue.
Protesters in England being dragged away and labeled "organized criminals" for protesting around Parliament: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZPnf2x-mg
The Daily Show on life without habeas corpus: http://youtube.com/watch?v=loxQVzbiMNQ
What's going on here? If it's not a conspiracy, if people like Bilderbergers are not to blame for the erosion of rights that have existed since the middle fucking ages, then you tell me, what the HELL is going on here?
I hate to say, "I told you so," but what more evidence do you need we are turning into the fourth reich? How much more evidence do you need to assure yourselves that for the last 100 years or so, organizations of powerful W.A.S.P.s and Jews have pooled their resources in an effort to preserve and expand their wealth and power throughout the world?
Now with North Korea testing nukes and on the verge of declaring war with Japan, who is threatening to blockade them, what is the world coming to? If you take no interest in these matters, then, frankly, your head is in the sand, my friend.
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-17 10:07:48 EDT (#)
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Pretty difficult to have a constructive post when you've got at least 5 morons attacking you on semantics EVERY SINGLE POST.
Submitted by Sandecki (user info) at 2006-10-17 00:55:29 EDT (#)
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This is a sad post, instead of attempting to actually have a conversation between one another you argue and piss like childern. No wonder our world is spiraling to shit
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-17 00:18:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-16 22:04:47 (#)
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Wait, ETS is threatening people again?
WTF BRAD, I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO SHOOT ME WITH A HIGH POWERED SNIPER RIFLE YOU FUCKING CUNTSLAG!
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-16 22:04:47 EDT (#)
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Wait, ETS is threatening people again?
WTF BRAD, I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO SHOOT ME WITH A HIGH POWERED SNIPER RIFLE YOU FUCKING CUNTSLAG!
Besides, of all the women on Uber, the LAST one I'd wanna fuck is Filthy.
Mainly because I'm scared of veneral disease, but partly because I'm also scared of veneral disease.
No, it's not a typo.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-16 21:57:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-16 15:39:46 (#)
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indoninja: When I'm done with him, you're next, bitch.
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Hahaha...
Anytime girlyman.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-16 15:39:46 EDT (#)
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Kevin: Friday.
indoninja: When I'm done with him, you're next, bitch.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-16 12:30:59 EDT (#)
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No, it is misleading, because there was no asterisk anywhere saying "+/- 3%, based on a poll of 1000."
I'm not saying I'm retarded enough to believe they really polled 70 million, I'm saying enough Americans are.
And you know that's true.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-16 12:25:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:37:46 (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 08:34:47 (#)
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"I'm just saying they did an excellent job of making you look stupid"
Thats like saying they did an excellent job of making Saddam Hussein look not very nice.
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One of these days I will be back in England. When I get there, I fully expect to meet you somewhere and knock out the rest of your teeth.
Just because you want to fuck my wife you follow me around making comment after comment thinking you're safe from repercussion. Keep on, buddy. Keep on.
You're goddamn right I'm not very nice. One of these days you're gonna find out just how NOT nice I can be.
Fucking chav. Go fuck your mother.
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I got 10 bucks on DC.
But lets be realistic Brad, you don't have the balls to hit anyone.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-10-16 12:03:34 EDT (#)
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Well at least this is a new phenomenon. At least when Sherman burned Atlanta, he made sure to only attack military targets.
Submitted by morontian (user info) at 2006-10-16 11:06:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:46:09 (#)
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I didn't say you weren't nice (although, you're right, you're not). You should seriously take an adult learning course in English comprehension.
I didn't know you were married, congrats I guess.
And I probably wouldn't fuck her, no offense FA is you're reading this, if I had a checklist of what I look for in women you'd probably tick most of the boxes but there something I can't really put my finger on that just makes me think...no.
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DC is stupid. :P
AS for the marriage thing, when the fuck did this happen?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:53:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-16 01:32:03 (#)
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Those articles, well, they're trite.
"A new Zogby poll shows 70 million American adults..."
That's a lie. They did not poll 70 million American adults, and stating it in this way definitively claims they did. They probably polled 1000 or so, and 230 said yes, so they scaled it to the whole country.
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Of all the shit ETS links, this is what you call misleading?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:47:14 EDT (#)
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And I have all my own teeth, and my mother ran away before I was born.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:46:09 EDT (#)
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I didn't say you weren't nice (although, you're right, you're not). You should seriously take an adult learning course in English comprehension.
I didn't know you were married, congrats I guess.
And I probably wouldn't fuck her, no offense FA is you're reading this, if I had a checklist of what I look for in women you'd probably tick most of the boxes but there something I can't really put my finger on that just makes me think...no.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:37:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 08:34:47 (#)
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"I'm just saying they did an excellent job of making you look stupid"
Thats like saying they did an excellent job of making Saddam Hussein look not very nice.
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One of these days I will be back in England. When I get there, I fully expect to meet you somewhere and knock out the rest of your teeth.
Just because you want to fuck my wife you follow me around making comment after comment thinking you're safe from repercussion. Keep on, buddy. Keep on.
You're goddamn right I'm not very nice. One of these days you're gonna find out just how NOT nice I can be.
Fucking chav. Go fuck your mother.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-16 10:30:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-16 01:32:03 (#)
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Those articles, well, they're trite.
"A new Zogby poll shows 70 million American adults..."
That's a lie. They did not poll 70 million American adults, and stating it in this way definitively claims they did. They probably polled 1000 or so, and 230 said yes, so they scaled it to the whole country.
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*sigh*
It's a scientific poll. They use margains of error.
Zogby is a polling service often used by Reuters and Associated Press. The statement is not misleading.
I suggest you stop making assumptions, because you're only showing how young and dumb you really are every time you open your mouth.
Seriously, shut the fuck up, idiot.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-16 08:34:47 EDT (#)
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"I'm just saying they did an excellent job of making you look stupid"
Thats like saying they did an excellent job of making Saddam Hussein look not very nice.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-16 01:32:03 EDT (#)
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Those articles, well, they're trite.
"A new Zogby poll shows 70 million American adults..."
That's a lie. They did not poll 70 million American adults, and stating it in this way definitively claims they did. They probably polled 1000 or so, and 230 said yes, so they scaled it to the whole country.
230 people...meh. That could mean anything. They only polled big cities, where more liberal crackpots would be, or they just so happened to catch a big batch of conspiracy theorists, where normally the number would be around 1/10.
But 70 million! Holy shit, that's a lot!
...Effective, but deceiving.
I love how they tried to portray South Park as anti-semetic, too. "You can't listen to their opinion, they hate Jews!"
No, they make fun of everyone equally. You just took one example out of context and labeled them. Congrats.
"Excuse me? Nineteen people in a cave could make NORAD stand-down, fly Cessna planes and otherwise catch an elaborate and leading intelligence network off-guard, but the government could not because Bush is a moron?"
I don't even know where to begin with that one.
A) More than 19 people.
B) They weren't living in a cave when they planned this, they only started living in caves because they succeeded. And with their success came the bombings of their buildings, which don't hold up too well against explosions. Caves, however...
C) Their point in general, about the US government not being able to outsmart the...US government...is logistically flawed. Yeah, yeah, sarcasm...but it's horrible, nonsensical sarcasm.
D) This is obviously biased journalism. It cannot be trusted.
So yeah, ETS, I'm not saying South Park has entirely, factually debunked your theories...
I'm just saying they did an excellent job of making you look stupid.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-15 11:10:30 EDT (#)
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FaC: Seen it. I wasn't impressed. I could name all the ways I wasn't impressed here, but that would take too long.
Consider this my response: http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/southpark_911_episode_equates_truthers_with_antisemitism.htm
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/131006_south_friend.html
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-15 02:43:59 EDT (#)
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Hey ETS-
You want a link?
I got a link for you...
SOUTH PARK, MOTHERFUCKER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgnFVRTYBSA
When I can compare you to Cartman, your days are numbered.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-15 01:26:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:20:38 (#)
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You've lost every argument you've ever had with me. I think this might be a good fucking time to sut your losses here. But then again, I quite enjoy humiliating you with facts. Same for domenad.
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IF I had the power to convince an unstable, insane man such as yourself, I would have the keys to the world in my pocket. I'm quite sure that you could point to a tree, a rock, and your own shriveled ball sack and call that proof of the 9/11 conspiracy, and believe it quite convincingly.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-10-14 19:22:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:20:38 (#)
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Again...you're fucking wrong, and with this video I PROVE it.
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I am so embarassed for you, Brad.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-10-14 19:15:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:27:46 (#)
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Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-10-12 16:44:30 (#)
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You should not be in disbelief when people refuse your point of you. If you did not act like such a prick, you would not have a problem.
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How about this... How about you first show me where I acted like a prick on this post. Then you suck my fucking cock.
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ahhahaahahaha
201st review
You're nothing if not tenacious, ETS.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:53:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:36:25 (#)
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correction: two reviews below, I used the word "irascible" instead of "indelible". My mistake.
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:22:44 (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-14 11:43:15 (#)
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SO, BRAD, HOW'S THAT UBERMADNESS HITLIST OF YOURS COMING?
WAIT, WHAT?
YOU LOST TWO IN A ROW?
YOU DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PERSON?
REALLY?
WOW.
THAT MUCH SUCK.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS LOCK KEY, IT'S STUCK.
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hahahaha...
And you voted for BOTH of my submissions. I bet you must feel like a jerk right about now. Nice attempt at damage control though.
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HAHA, thats great, you both made fools out of yourselves :)
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:52:03 EDT (#)
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"You've lost every argument you've ever had with me."
I don't think I've ever lost a single argument with you, I disagree with everything you said in that review....but I'm giving up as it took me 4 months to convince you something patently wrong that went against basic physics, I'm not even going to try with semantics, however I would advise you to actually read the Magna Carta sometime, Habeas Corpus is not mentioned.
And whatever the fuck some guys wrote in the american constitution, doesn't mean habeas corpus was a right in the middle ages.
The common people did not have the right of Habeas Corpus until 1679. You saying, or someone lse saying that habeas corpus SHOULD be an inalienable right doesn't matter shit. Habeas corpus did not become a right until 1679, people have not magically had it forever and it was not included in the Magna Carta.
Rights do not exist in thin air, they are, whether you like it or not, granted by the powers and systems that be. If they just naturally come up out of the ground or you thought so then you would not have said we had had it since the middle ages, as we would, in your fairytale world, have had it forever.
And once again CHECK YOUR FACTS. Habeas corpus is not even mentioned in the Magna Carta.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:36:25 EDT (#)
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correction: two reviews below, I used the word "irascible" instead of "indelible". My mistake.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:22:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-14 11:43:15 (#)
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SO, BRAD, HOW'S THAT UBERMADNESS HITLIST OF YOURS COMING?
WAIT, WHAT?
YOU LOST TWO IN A ROW?
YOU DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PERSON?
REALLY?
WOW.
THAT MUCH SUCK.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS LOCK KEY, IT'S STUCK.
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hahahaha...
And you voted for BOTH of my submissions. I bet you must feel like a jerk right about now. Nice attempt at damage control though.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-14 18:20:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 19:50:01 (#)
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Oh, I also talked to a guy who blows up builings for a living recently, naturally the 11/9 conspiracy came up, he said that no-one in the industry on either side of the atlantic ever uses the phrase 'pull it'.
Ner ner na ner ner
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Again...you're fucking wrong, and with this video I PROVE it. Here is a man from Controlled Demolition uttering the word "pull" as a reference to demolishing a building at the World Trade Center site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=
While the term "pull it" might not be an industry-wide vernacular, it is CLEARLY used interchangeably with "demolish" in the one company that matters - Controlled Demolition - who were responsible for the operations at WTC.
You've lost every argument you've ever had with me. I think this might be a good fucking time to sut your losses here. But then again, I quite enjoy humiliating you with facts. Same for domenad.
You're BOTH idiots as far as I'm concerned. Sad thing is, neither of you will ever know it, precisely because of your condition.
As for habeas corpus...
Yes, habeas corpus was written into the magna carta, which was a document that secured the rights of lords and people against monarchial tyranny in 1215, which WAS the middle ages.
As a buttress to this argument, a "right" also isn't a "right" simply because it is written down. This is why our country - which you wouldn't know jack shit about obviously - begins by saying that God has bestowed upon man certain inalienable rights among which are "life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness". "Inalienable" means that by no writ can these rights be stolen from a man. No law has the "right", under God, to take these certain rights from an individual. Those that do are the very definition of evil. Habeas Corpus is an irascible component of "liberty".
The fact that I should have to explain these things to someone who claims to understand the very foundations of the society he's supposedly a part is a direct reflection of the sorry state of affairs to which this so-called "war on terror" has brought us. That people like you could so carelessly defend a government which is obviously abridging your rights for the purported purpose of safety and security is an evolutionary DIGRESSION in mankind's progress.
In short, sir, it is not the Osama Bin Ladens of the world that will eventually spell the downfall of this grand experiment in democracy, it is people like you and domenad that will be its undoing.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-14 15:33:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:21:34 (#)
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Why you don't seem to understand these basic things, I cannot understand, except to say that you clearly don't know jack shit about history, therefore you know jack shit about the present.
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There isn't the slightest question that I know more history than you. If we're talking Hitler, where was the popular uprising faction that stopped him? "Talking", "posting", "writing", etc. NEVER stopped a true murdering dictator. NEVER. Not Idi Amin. Not Kim Jong Il.Not Stalin. Not Saddam Hussein for that matter. NONE. If you weren't such an abject pussy, you'd recognize that. But you have to post and pretend you're doing something to "educate" people, because otherwise you'd have to live with the idea that you're a coward who can barely scrape the balls together to withold his 170 dollar tax return without shitting his pants. You make me sick. If I thought for a moment that the government had done what you believe it has done, there would be some heads on stakes the next day, and they wouldn't be mine, if you catch my drift. In reality, you don't have the linchpin of what it takes to prevent tyranny - the willingness to draw steel and fight. You have to believe what you believe, otherwise you'd have to admit to yourself how gutless you are. And in the biggest delusion of all, you liken our own President to Hitler because he's marshalling Americans to fight an enemy that 1) despises Jews and wants to eliminate them, 2) wants a totalitarian government under one race...oops, I meant religion in this case. But Bush is like Hitler because they both took a shit on the same brand of toilet. Sad.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2006-10-14 13:43:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-14 11:43:15 EDT (#)
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SO, BRAD, HOW'S THAT UBERMADNESS HITLIST OF YOURS COMING?
WAIT, WHAT?
YOU LOST TWO IN A ROW?
YOU DIDN'T GET A SINGLE PERSON?
REALLY?
WOW.
THAT MUCH SUCK.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS LOCK KEY, IT'S STUCK.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 22:59:09 EDT (#)
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Jesus christ you tit. I just went through this argument but I didn't expect you to deny..argh
Now listen carefully...and I've said this to you many times CHECK YOUR FACTS.
1stly the BBC isn't agreeing with you, its attempting unbiased reporting, but that is by the by.
2ndly The fact that similar/identical concepts to habeas corpus have existed for a fuck of a long time doesn't make them a right.
3rdly Habeas corpus was not included in the Magna Carta, CHECK YOUR FACTS.
4thly Habeas corpus Did not become a RIGHT until 1679.
For fucks sake just admit it when you're wrong. And really really, check your facts, I'm fed up with having to correct you all the time.
AND learn the different between your and you're
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 19:50:01 (#)
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Oh, I also talked to a guy who blows up builings for a living recently, naturally the 11/9 conspiracy came up, he said that no-one in the industry on either side of the atlantic ever uses the phrase 'pull it'.
Ner ner na ner ner
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-13 22:35:35 EDT (#)
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Habeas Corpus was included in the Magna Carta.
1215 anno domini.
Your own fucking BBC agrees with me. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4329839.stm
For the last time, GO BACK TO FUCKING SCHOOL!
You "claim" your an "expert" on lots of shit you obviously know nothing about whatsoever, and that's pretty fucking sad.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-13 22:32:27 EDT (#)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval
No, the Middle ages runs from about the end of the Roman Empire to the Baroque Era. Roughly 450-1500 or so. But thanks for playing.
If you're not satisfied with wikipedia on that, then pick up a history book of your choosing and see what they say about it. Also, look and tell me when the bubonic plague happened and tell me if you think that was in the middle ages.
Otherwise, stop trying to be a fucking smartass and muddling up your facts in the process. Everytime you try to belittle me with your typical 'English' smugness, you get shot down. I thought you would have learned by now, chav boy.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 19:50:01 EDT (#)
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Oh, I also talked to a guy who blows up builings for a living recently, naturally the 11/9 conspiracy came up, he said that no-one in the industry on either side of the atlantic ever uses the phrase 'pull it'.
Ner ner na ner ner
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 19:37:28 EDT (#)
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I'll admit I've been googling the middle ages, cos I know what you're like, and befoer you string this out any more I'm going to play out the whole argument.
You: something something middle ages 1500 chav boy
Me: first country to make Habeus Corpus a right: Great Britain, in 1689, you lose.
You: *Trys to pretend conversation never happened and make another post about....I dunno Tesla mebe? Its big oil...right up your alley....you know you want to...*
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 19:17:41 EDT (#)
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Yes, I got that, but most people consider the middle ages to be roughly 500-1000AD
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-13 18:35:53 EDT (#)
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habeas corpus you dumb fuck
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-13 18:15:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-13 16:41:48 (#)
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also, what rights have existed since the middle ages?
OH MY GOD SERFDOM WAS THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HAHA, missed that bit, which rights have existed since the 'middle fucking ages' Brad?
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-13 16:41:48 EDT (#)
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also, what rights have existed since the middle ages?
OH MY GOD SERFDOM WAS THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2006-10-13 15:36:10 EDT (#)
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there are protestors there camping there every day. i think what happened there is that they didnt inform the right people that they were going to do it so the police could arrange the cover - so fair enough really. england isnt like that, trust me i live about a mile from there.
chavez is a fucking embarrassment. if che were alive he would have fucked his shit up. hes like a wannabe intellectual - kinda of like a george bush who can read a bit.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-13 12:44:47 EDT (#)
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Wow.
That was wierd. I wonder why it did that in the middle of typing... Never saw a change or anything.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-13 12:44:12 EDT (#)
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Don't forget this line of it, Brad. Becase we all know you tend to have selective reading.
"Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel... "
So, you know it's a drill, yet you're worried why they're arresting civilians with Army personnel.........
Are you just wondering why a drill that supposedly takes place under marshall law is using ANG troops, or what?
Because silly me, I always figured drills that take place under a supposed marshall law should always, you know, follow marshall law.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-13 12:43:32 EDT (#)
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Don't forget this line of it, Brad. Becase we all know you tend to have selective reading.
"Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel... "
So, you know it's a drill, yet you're worried why they're arresting civilians with Army personnel.........
Are you just wondering why a drill that supposedly takes place under marshall law is using ANG
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-13 12:33:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-12 19:38:52 (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/94316#2180354
Right here you claim that US soilders are arresting civilians.
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Click the link and you'll see that the first sentence says "drills". I know they were drills. But the fact that they're running drills doing the things I described to American citizens, employing their kids to tattle on them is crossing a line, I think.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, and there's mine, but stop LYING.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-12 20:31:20 EDT (#)
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It is the second one. He's off his meds again.
Loony is as loony does, stuff like that.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-12 19:41:26 EDT (#)
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I have got to hand it to you ETS you either have a great sense of humor and love baiting people with your retarted theories or you are one of the sorriest most delusional fucks in the world.
I am leaning towards the second one seeing as how you have gone out of your way to 2 all of my posts, most of them a couple times with your alters.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-12 19:38:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:50:16 (#)
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That still doesn't answer my question.
Why would the media choose to focus on what was obviously a tongue-in-cheek joke about Bush being the devil incarnate instead of telling us at least a little something about the rest of the speech?
You compared me to Chavez, and at least in this respect I'd have to agree with that comparison. Most of you choose one tiny aspect of what I say and you completely disregard answering my actual questions.
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Everything else in his speech was common knowledge, well at least the stuff that was grounded in reality.
Nobody listens to you because you are a miserable little failure whose only ray of sun in life appears to be pretending to be smart by presenting bad conspiracy theories.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/94316#2180354
Right here you claim that US soilders are arresting civilians.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/94316#2180445
Right here you claim that you knew all along that they were volounteers.
You couldn't complete one post without contradicting yourself.
Your questions have been addressed. The thing in England is a reasonable measure. The Padilles thing HAS two sides (which were both presented in the AP article, the CIA one was presented first because it was newer). And Keith is a clever character but your right of Habeas Corpus is not gone. But chavez gets more respect than you because (besides being a head of state) his arguments don't fall back on "eww the Jews did it!"
I have got to hand it to you ETS you either have a great sense of humor and love baiting people with your retarted theories or you are one of the sorriest most delusional fucks in the world.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-10-12 19:29:55 EDT (#)
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Someone went off their meds again.
It's damn eerie, you can actually see the cycle of 2-3 weeks where he takes them, and then 6-8 where he doesn't.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:54:41 EDT (#)
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Bush (to ETS): Suck my cock.
ETS: Fuck you.
Chavez (to ETS): Suck my cock.
ETS: MMMmmmm....
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:50:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-12 10:52:14 (#)
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chavez wasn't taken seriously for the same reason you aren't. his sensationalism and ranting overshadows any credibility he started out having. he marginalizes himself because he jabbers on like a fucking lunatic, much like you.
really, the similarities are striking.
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That still doesn't answer my question.
Why would the media choose to focus on what was obviously a tongue-in-cheek joke about Bush being the devil incarnate instead of telling us at least a little something about the rest of the speech?
You compared me to Chavez, and at least in this respect I'd have to agree with that comparison. Most of you choose one tiny aspect of what I say and you completely disregard answering my actual questions.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:49:43 EDT (#)
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Kill all the jews!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:46:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-12 11:14:49 (#)
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/12/uk.bombplot.ap/index.html -- and your thoughts on this? or is this guy just allowed to be crazy and hate the US and western culture? i mean, it seems like from everything you write this guy shouldn't exist, or at least be a pawn of the government -- or wait, now is it the jewish elite?
whatever, i'd just like to know your thoughts on this guy. or should i just email alex jones and skip the middle man?
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Why can you not understand that two things can exist simultaneously? Why do people have such a problem with critical thinking that they disregard that two possibilities can sometimes coexist?
Not all people who desire to attack the US or UK or anyone else for that matter are part of some conspiracy. I never said such a thing, and no one I know of in the 9/11 Truth Movement has ever said such a thing.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:39:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:27:46 (#)
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Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-10-12 16:44:30 (#)
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You should not be in disbelief when people refuse your point of you. If you did not act like such a prick, you would not have a problem.
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How about this... How about you first show me where I acted like a prick on this post. Then you suck my fucking cock.
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:)
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:30:54 EDT (#)
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you still haven't responded to my points.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:27:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-10-12 16:44:30 (#)
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You should not be in disbelief when people refuse your point of you. If you did not act like such a prick, you would not have a problem.
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How about this... How about you first show me where I acted like a prick on this post. Then you suck my fucking cock.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:26:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by drgoatcabin (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:06:52 (#)
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putting up that many links doesn't mean you have proof. it just means you have the internet. high five, dipshit.
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And not reading those links means you don't take advantage of the internet you have. High five, moron.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:21:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-11 20:13:02 (#)
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Why don't you refute this, Bradley boy. What are you doing posting on Uber? Seriously? According to you and your psychosis you KNOW (not believe):
1) Bush arranged the 9/11 attacks. He arranged for planes or missiles disguised to ram into the buildings and demolished them, possibly (definitely according to you) with the aid of pre-set explosives. 50,000 people regularly go in and out of the WTC buildings, so Bush must have been prepared to sacrifice at least that many, not to mention the emergency responders who would die in the rescue, people crushed by falling rubble, and later deaths from hazardous materials.
2) Bush has the power to rig whole elections. He successfully rigged the elections in 2000 and again in 2004.
3) Bush is perfectly willing to use military force against American citizens that contravene his goals.
And you are......sitting and posting on uber? Why? You will never be in power again, according to you. Bush can rig elections to elect whoever he wants. He can fake a terrorist attack to declare martial law. He, according to you, has murdered thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis. And you are.....posting on Uber?
If you believe these things, and I know that you are dedicated to your psychosis by virtue of the fact that you can't come to grip with the sometimes vicious, predatory framework that is the world, why are you sitting on your dead can, in your Centex-built apartment, playing your guitar mass produced from illegally harvested rainforest lumber, eating Pillsbury biscuit dough out of the can? Why aren't you beg, borrowing, and stealing every dollar you can to buy guns, ammunition, ammonium nitrate? Why aren't you making plans to bomb government buildings to oust Bush? At the very least, why aren't you joining the ranks of the Cubans, the Iranians, the Venezuelans, who oppose Bush? If you KNOW all these things, and take no action, you're either chickenshit or a liar. But I know the real reason why.
You're crazy, but you're not THAT crazy. Right hippy boy?
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"Bush" didn't "do" any of it. The people to whom he answers did, and the people who answer to THEM helped. He is guilty as any of them, but I never said he was the mastermind of the operations. He's a bishop, a rook at best, in the game.
I'm sitting around posting on uber, Steven Colbert is making fun of him to his face, and others are still able to speak the truth (for now) because the people in control cannot just up and start arresting or offing people without public backlash. The people have to be sufficiently scared for their own safety first in order to start labeling people enemies of the state and throwing them in military prisons. I go back to Hitler because he's a perfect example. How did an entire country bend to his will and aid him in his persecution of Jews? He had to demonize them first, and he had to create laws that would give him the appearance of legitimacy to do what he did. In his invasion of Poland, he didn't just charge right in one day out of the blue without explanation to the people. He shot a German prisoner, dressed him up as a Polish soldier, tossed his body outside a German radio station, and had his propaganda machinists take pictures of the body for the newspapers. Hitler was no idiot. He understood that, even as dictator, he would need to will of the people to pull off a successful war campaign.
Why you don't seem to understand these basic things, I cannot understand, except to say that you clearly don't know jack shit about history, therefore you know jack shit about the present. History repeats itself. It is not linear. Empires, conquests, colonialism, war...give mere mortals inordinate powers and they will ALWAYS abuse them. It's not a question of "if" but "when".
To answer the other implication of your question "why am I posting on uber", in which you try, once again, to say that posting online does not qualify as 'action', I post on uber because, for reasons of pure convenience, this has become my main forum for voicing my opinions and revelations about the state of things. I don't consider that "doing nothing". As far as I'm concerned, the pen is, and will always be, mightier than the sword.
That's not to say the sword doesn't have its place, but the time is not here just yet. Give it time.
Submitted by drgoatcabin (user info) at 2006-10-12 17:06:52 EDT (#)
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putting up that many links doesn't mean you have proof. it just means you have the internet. high five, dipshit.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-10-12 16:44:30 EDT (#)
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You should not be in disbelief when people refuse your point of you. If you did not act like such a prick, you would not have a problem.
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2006-10-12 11:14:49 EDT (#)
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/12/uk.bombplot.ap/index.html -- and your thoughts on this? or is this guy just allowed to be crazy and hate the US and western culture? i mean, it seems like from everything you write this guy shouldn't exist, or at least be a pawn of the government -- or wait, now is it the jewish elite?
whatever, i'd just like to know your thoughts on this guy. or should i just email alex jones and skip the middle man?
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:30:14 (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:14:44 (#)
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All conspiracy theories have "documented evidence", it just matters how the person views them.
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Yep, and so do the so-called "hard news stories". They, too, are dependent on how they are spun by the media. So, what's your point?
That still doesn't distinguish between what some of you are calling my 'conspiracy theories' and hard news stories.
I find it amusing that you all won't accept anything I say until you see it on TV. I posted this to remind you how things can be hidden by your major news media.
Case in point, the Chavez speech he gave at the UN. All the focus on his first little joke effectively hid the parts about the CIA and Carriles.
The other point of this was to show you video of the protesters being dragged away from Parliament and labeled "organized criminals" as well as the video of my new hero Keith Olbermann whipping out the Bill of Rights and helping America a brush up on their rights and how they are being compromised.
I see very few of you even addressing the last two things, and those of you who addressed the Chavez speech didn't explain to me why the major media would see fit to leave the parts about the CIA out.
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chavez wasn't taken seriously for the same reason you aren't. his sensationalism and ranting overshadows any credibility he started out having. he marginalizes himself because he jabbers on like a fucking lunatic, much like you.
really, the similarities are striking.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2006-10-12 10:00:49 EDT (#)
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If there was a group of powerful jews organizing, why wasn't I invited?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-10-12 09:34:14 EDT (#)
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thousands of protesters welcomed bush to his second inauguration ceremony.
steven colbert stood 4 feet away from bush and bashed him hard for half an hour.
hell, he is mocked by hundreds of comedians, cartoonists, celebrities, on the internet...everywhere.
same goes for blair.
if this is the 4th reich, those 'dicators' sure have a good sense of humor.
but hey, surely a bunch of protesters that were taken away means we are under dictatorship.
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2006-10-12 09:24:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:55:43 (#)
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"Get over it, FaC, you're just a kid."
Yeah, well, tough guy, you're just a bad cover artist who has entirely too much free time.
I'm ever so glad you feel the need to express your superiority over aforementioned "kid."
And Osama bin Laden's attack was entirely different. Why?
Because we had no qualms with the dude. For a while there, we entirely supported him, sold him guns and the like.
That fucker had a beef that was felt in no way equally by the other side, and so he attacked unprovoked.
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Dude. You should just stop. You're making yourself look like a fucking retard.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2006-10-12 08:34:44 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Flying_buttmonkey (user info) at 2006-10-12 07:40:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 13:03:15 (#)
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Margain: Yea, I'm well aware of all that too. You, shitfuck, and a handful of others see exactly what I'm talking about. How the rest can be so utterly oblivious, in spite of all the facts I link them to, in spite of all the documented evidence, I'll never know.
I am just thankful for the few of you who see it with me and stand up with me against this shit. Thank you.
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Just out of interest - and this really is curiosity here - when you say you 'stand up' against whatever it is this week, what do you actually do?
I mean, I realise you make these posts, but do you go to protests? Do you sort out petitions or lobby senators or do anything you should be doing that ISN'T wibbling about your outrage on a website not even aimed at this sort of thing?
Again I'm not trying to poke a badger with a stick here, but I'm curious to find out whether you feel you're achieving something here. No one cares on ubersite, and those that do already seem to know what you're on about. People don't like being forcibly 'educated' by people who constantly infer their herd mentality, I assume you know this.
I have a cold. DAMN YOU MI5!!!!!
>shakes fist in the air<
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-12 07:01:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:56:21 (#)
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I KNOW THEY'RE IN ON IT IN THAT FIRST VIDEO.
STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!
They weren't in on it in the Texas drills I'm talking about. They are well documented in Alex jones' movies.
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Then why did you bring up the first video, you were just hoping people wouldn't poke holes in it?
I am sure the second video is the same exact shit. You, or at least whoever made that first film made it seem like they had no choice but to cooperate and that the military was violating their rights. Once it was proved wrong you switch to "oh, I know it was wrong but watch this two hour movie that is the real military training to subdue Americans."
Submitted by yhywstudios (user info) at 2006-10-12 04:25:12 EDT (#)
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If only more Americans were like ETS...
Submitted by LT (user info) at 2006-10-12 03:03:07 EDT (#)
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Die.
Submitted by awesome_face (user info) at 2006-10-12 00:45:00 EDT (#)
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I just finished watching the new southpark episode and I thought of you the entire time, hell you might have even found it funny.
The 9/11 government conspiracies...were government conspiracies!!!!
Submitted by LeaderOfMen (user info) at 2006-10-11 23:16:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2006-10-11 13:17:32 (#)
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whether ETS is right or wrong, there are terrible things happening behind the scenes that none of you will ever know about. or at least if you obtain a clearance high enough to find out, will never be able to talk about to anyone. but even if you have a level 5 clearance like myself, you may have access to level 6 information but you don't get to know anything because it goes much higher than that and you have to be a ring tapper in the good ol' boys club.
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Nice OPSEC. Lets hope someone you work with doesnt read this shit and know who you are, idiot.
Oh wait I can research everything about you through this site and an email address and find out exactly who you are, who you work for, and then find you to detain you.
Do you see this snowball effect?
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-11 20:14:02 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-10-11 20:00:17 (#)
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Yeah but as soon as he lost consciousness you'd have to deal with me, and nobody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys.
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I'd pay just to see your leg go up.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-11 20:13:02 EDT (#)
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Why don't you refute this, Bradley boy. What are you doing posting on Uber? Seriously? According to you and your psychosis you KNOW (not believe):
1) Bush arranged the 9/11 attacks. He arranged for planes or missiles disguised to ram into the buildings and demolished them, possibly (definitely according to you) with the aid of pre-set explosives. 50,000 people regularly go in and out of the WTC buildings, so Bush must have been prepared to sacrifice at least that many, not to mention the emergency responders who would die in the rescue, people crushed by falling rubble, and later deaths from hazardous materials.
2) Bush has the power to rig whole elections. He successfully rigged the elections in 2000 and again in 2004.
3) Bush is perfectly willing to use military force against American citizens that contravene his goals.
And you are......sitting and posting on uber? Why? You will never be in power again, according to you. Bush can rig elections to elect whoever he wants. He can fake a terrorist attack to declare martial law. He, according to you, has murdered thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis. And you are.....posting on Uber?
If you believe these things, and I know that you are dedicated to your psychosis by virtue of the fact that you can't come to grip with the sometimes vicious, predatory framework that is the world, why are you sitting on your dead can, in your Centex-built apartment, playing your guitar mass produced from illegally harvested rainforest lumber, eating Pillsbury biscuit dough out of the can? Why aren't you beg, borrowing, and stealing every dollar you can to buy guns, ammunition, ammonium nitrate? Why aren't you making plans to bomb government buildings to oust Bush? At the very least, why aren't you joining the ranks of the Cubans, the Iranians, the Venezuelans, who oppose Bush? If you KNOW all these things, and take no action, you're either chickenshit or a liar. But I know the real reason why.
You're crazy, but you're not THAT crazy. Right hippy boy?
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-10-11 20:00:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:35:04 (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:09:58 (#)
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I wish I could put you guys all in a room together for like half an hour with a bat, a lead pipe, and a heavy chain.
It would make MILLIONS on Pay Per View
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People would want their money back, ETS would go down too fast. But it would still be fun.
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Yeah but as soon as he lost consciousness you'd have to deal with me, and nobody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:56:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:49:11 (#)
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READ MY ANSWER, ETS!
I was there during that exercise. The townies are in on it and ROLEPLAY!!!!!!
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I KNOW THEY'RE IN ON IT IN THAT FIRST VIDEO.
STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!
They weren't in on it in the Texas drills I'm talking about. They are well documented in Alex jones' movies.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:55:43 EDT (#)
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"Get over it, FaC, you're just a kid."
Yeah, well, tough guy, you're just a bad cover artist who has entirely too much free time.
I'm ever so glad you feel the need to express your superiority over aforementioned "kid."
And Osama bin Laden's attack was entirely different. Why?
Because we had no qualms with the dude. For a while there, we entirely supported him, sold him guns and the like.
That fucker had a beef that was felt in no way equally by the other side, and so he attacked unprovoked.
That first strike, that wasn't war. That was hate. Pure hate. There was no disagreement, no issue that couldn't be solved with words, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL WE HAD AN ISSUE.
You wanna talk who's a puppet? Try you, little lapdog. Just like your "rival" Bush, you spin three words around like all other discussion topics dropped dead of AIDS: "terrorism," "9/11," and "freedom." You've got a set view on all three, and if you're faced with anything other, you flip the fuck out.
Who's gullible here? Me, for not believing everything I read on the web, even "AMAZING CONSPIRACY FOOTAGE" such as "Loose Change," or you?
I may be a kid, but I'm not the one who has to grow the fuck up.
Goodbye, Mr. ETS. I have given you far too much heat as is.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:49:11 EDT (#)
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READ MY ANSWER, ETS!
I was there during that exercise. The townies are in on it and ROLEPLAY!!!!!!
DEBUNKED.DEBUNKED.DEBUNKED.
And there were NO Marines in that video, like the obviously non-military-educated announcer said. All Army uniforms.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:35:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:09:58 (#)
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I wish I could put you guys all in a room together for like half an hour with a bat, a lead pipe, and a heavy chain.
It would make MILLIONS on Pay Per View
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People would want their money back, ETS would go down too fast. But it would still be fun.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:33:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:08:19 (#)
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Is that your explanation? Why then did they have kids running through the streets on bikes "looking for terrorists", ratting out those with firearms?
Not sure if it was in that videos, but there is an extended version included in "Rise of the Police State".
Have you seen the United Nations troops running drills in Oakland? They set up a makeshift internment camp and had Dutch and Russian soldiers running around disarming Americans: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1551348336255792191
How do you explain that one, Sherlock? Are they getting ready for overseas combat?
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Wait, wait, wait, dutch and american soilders are training to take over America with the help of american soilders?
Nothing in that first video gave any indication that those people weren't volunteers. If they weren't and were stopped haphazardly by the military the ACLU would be all over it.
As far as that stupid fucking "illegal" document. It was from and EOD unit. Do you know what that is? Explosive Ordanance Disposal. They take care of bombs. They don't arrest people, they don't run arouns shooting people, they don't break into houses and look for bombs. They go where people are afraid there might be a bomb and dispose of it.
Anyway I have had enough stupidity for tonight. Sleep tight with dreams of NATO soilders coming after you. And horrible criminals not extradited back to venezuela. I wonder what happened to Padilles partner in crime, the one who actually admitted on TV he did it, oh yeah he is walking free in Venezuela now.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:13:20 EDT (#)
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Also, check out the parts that deal with the Special Forces from Texas, who stormed a town in the middle of the night without even notifying the citizens. Flying helicopters, setting fire to buildings, shooting off machine guns, working in tandem with the local SHERRIFS to set up blockades...
Is THAT for overseas training? What would be the purpose of working in tandem with the police dept. if it's just some kind of innocuous 'final exam'?
It doesn't add up. They are acclimating the citizens of this country to obeying Army orders - to being searched for no reason by military personnel "for their own safety".
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:09:58 EDT (#)
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I wish I could put you guys all in a room together for like half an hour with a bat, a lead pipe, and a heavy chain.
It would make MILLIONS on Pay Per View
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:08:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:57:45 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:34:25 (#)
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Wonder why the Army would be running drills like this on U.S. soil...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&mode=related&search=
Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel...
Can someone explain why they would be doing this?
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Practicing for work overseas?
No that makes too much sense they must be getting ready to take you down.
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Is that your explanation? Why then did they have kids running through the streets on bikes "looking for terrorists", ratting out those with firearms?
Not sure if it was in that videos, but there is an extended version included in "Rise of the Police State".
Have you seen the United Nations troops running drills in Oakland? They set up a makeshift internment camp and had Dutch and Russian soldiers running around disarming Americans: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1551348336255792191
How do you explain that one, Sherlock? Are they getting ready for overseas combat?
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 19:03:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:34:25 (#)
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Wonder why the Army would be running drills like this on U.S. soil...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&mode=related&search=
Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel...
Can someone explain why they would be doing this?
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I can explain it.
It's called Robin Sage.
The "final exam" for Special Forces reqruits. It takes place in everyday-America. The citizens of the town of the community agree to let the Soldiers "play war" for 3 -7 days.
There. That's what that is.
Oh, how do I know?
I participated in it in 2000.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:58:31 EDT (#)
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Don't forget that I agree with you on this, I just don't belive in the extremes you do.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:57:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:34:25 (#)
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Wonder why the Army would be running drills like this on U.S. soil...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&mode=related&search=
Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel...
Can someone explain why they would be doing this?
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Practicing for work overseas?
No that makes too much sense they must be getting ready to take you down.
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:55:08 EDT (#)
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Zyklon B (IPA: [tsykloːn ˈbeː], also spelled Cyclon B) was the tradename of a cyanide-based insecticide notorious for its use by Nazi Germany to kill over one million people in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and Majdanek during the Holocaust. It consisted of hydrocyanic acid (prussic acid), a stabilizer, and a warning odorant that were impregnated onto various substrates, typically small absorbant pellets, fiber discs, or diatomaceous earth. It was stored in airtight containers; when exposed to air, the substrates evolved gaseous hydrogen cyanide (HCN).
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:53:27 EDT (#)
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Boy, aren't you clever, domenad.
You use your pseudo cleverness as a crutch. The fact is, if you so much as TRIED to refute any of what I've said here, you'd have to either admit I'm right, or risk looking like an idiot because you don't know what you're talking about.
You just see that I wrote that America harbors known terrorists and you think inside your limited, narrow mind, "that can't be true."
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:45:22 EDT (#)
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Clomipramine (brand-name Anafranil®) is a tricyclic antidepressant.
Clomipramine is the 3-chloro derivative of Imipramine. Clomipramine is a strong, but not completely selective Serotonic-Reuptake-Inhibitor (SRI), as the active main metabolite Desmethyclomipramine acts preferably as inhibitor of Noradrenaline-Reuptake. Other hydroxy-metabolites are also active. Alpha-1-Receptor blockage and beta-down-regulation as well as postsynaptic antagonism on H1 (histaminergic)-receptors have been noted. A blockade of Sodium-channels and NMDA-receptors might, as with other tricyclics, account for its effect in chronic pain, particular of the neuropathic type.
Clomipramine might as well show stimulating effects as well as mild sedating ones. Anyway, strongly agitated patients initially need combination therapy with a benzodiazepine or with Chlorprothixene. Clomipramine shows excellent activity in any indication, but has the disadvantage of a higher incidence of seizures than seen with other tricyclic antidepressants (up to a dose of 250mg daily in 0,5%, more than 300 mg in 2%).
Due to its action against anxiety disorders and panic attacks it is the only drug with 2 entries in the 'Essential Drugs' list of the WHO. Some studies have indicated that clomipramine is slightly more effective in the treatment of depression than other tricyclics.
Regarding compulsive disorders it is now the 'gold standard' of therapy, against which other drugs are measured.
Interesting results indicate that the antidepressant activity correlates with the plasma-level of the main active metabolite Desmethylclomipramine, while antidepressant activity merely correlates with the plasma-level of Clomipramine in unchanged form
Take ...um....several of these. Maybe more.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:34:25 EDT (#)
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Wonder why the Army would be running drills like this on U.S. soil...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&mode=related&search=
Sweeping for guns, setting up checkpoints, arresting civilians with ARMY personnel...
Can someone explain why they would be doing this?
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:32:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:04:43 (#)
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and google "FEMA camps"
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I saw a location list of fully functional American camps, and a list of "potential" Canadian. The largest one - in Alaska - can house 3 million.
In total? Around 18 million, not including potential Canadian Locations.
Sheesh - and what was Hitler's estimated count...around 1.5 million? (I could be wrong there)
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:30:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:33:35 (#)
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You're so fucking gullible it's pathetic.
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From the guy who thinks a group of powerful Jews and WASPS have been running everything in the past 100 years to consolidate their power.
Apart from the WASPS your theories read right out of a white power conspiracy playbook.
Tell me is one of them the Colonel?
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:26:45 EDT (#)
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I clicked on this out of morbid curiosity... and see that FunnyAsCancer is actually defending blowing up a civilian commercial airline flight? Jesus, FaC, why don't you come out of the closet and just join Al-Qaeda already? I feel like forwarding this thread to "Countdown", so you could qualify to be today's "worst person in the world".
Here's a hint, dumbass: people involved with the Cubana airlines explosion are not classified as terrorists because there's a political cost to that classification, and an election coming up. Not because it was open season on passenger jets from 1945-1989. Honestly, I find getting into any kind of political discussion on ETS post to be a no-win situation, but FunnyAsCancer has proven himself to have the intelligence of a mongoloid gerbil.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:06:22 EDT (#)
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fema+camps&search=Search
Note the barbed wire on top of the fences in FEMA camps point IN not OUT.
Why is that?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 18:04:43 EDT (#)
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and google "FEMA camps"
Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:51:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:40:41 (#)
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ETS, you blame America for entirely too much. Sure, sometimes we helped things along, but it's not like we're picking fights cause we're bored. In a lot of cases, we get prompted into things, and it's worth looking at the big picture before judgment is passed.
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Fuck - why are people so defensive??? It's not a matter of BLAMING YOUR Precious America (which if you did in fact value - you would probably be concerned about right now. I'm fucking Canadian and I'm repulsed)
This information contained herein merely makes light of perversity of the current administration, and how the "Neccesary Security Measures" are begining to strip you of your most basic freedoms, not to mention you're right to form an opinion.
PS - You should really look into some of the American Companies closely tied into this whole "war on terrorism"
IE - Halliburton, Parsons Corporation, Corrections Corporation.
Maybe that will clarify for you what this war is REALLY about.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:31:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:09:30 (#)
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And so they've found yet another passport from an exploding plane in the streets of New York.
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At least this time it wasn't a fucking jumbo jet, so it seems a little more believable.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:18:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:03:50 (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:48:16 (#)
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Dude.
They broke the fucking law.
They were organised.
That makes them organised criminals. How can you fail to understand this.
Oh fuck this.
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You're asking the wrong questions you fucking closed-minded twit.
The question you SHOULD be asking is why has your government outlawed free speech around the one place it is needed most?
THAT should be your question. Your next question should be, is that law even legally valid?
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Maybe you should have been clearer?
The answer to the 2nd question is yes.
the answer to the first question is that they haven't. You now need to notify police 6 days prior to demonstrating within 1 kilometer of the houses of parliament, and get police permission.
The reasons for this are extremely obvious, and I think that it is reasonable.
If you do not, then that is your opinion, which you are entitled to, I am also entitled to my opinion.
Get your facts straight, and stop stating your private opinions as fact.
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:18:11 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/94329
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:09:30 EDT (#)
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And so they've found yet another passport from an exploding plane in the streets of New York.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:06:33 EDT (#)
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FaC, DCWoody, and Indoninja...
You would all make great citizens in Orwell's "1984". You're all equally complacent and gullible.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:03:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:48:16 (#)
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Dude.
They broke the fucking law.
They were organised.
That makes them organised criminals. How can you fail to understand this.
Oh fuck this.
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You're asking the wrong questions you fucking closed-minded twit.
The question you SHOULD be asking is why has your government outlawed free speech around the one place it is needed most?
THAT should be your question. Your next question should be, is that law even legally valid?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 17:01:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:40:41 (#)
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Why did innocent people have to die?
Because we were at war.
That's what war is.
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In that case, Osama Bin Laden - if he is indeed behind the 9/11 attacks - is justified. Why? Because they are "at WAR".
Same for Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Goering, and all the other Nazis guilty of murder during war. Ever heard of the Nuhremburg trials? Well, that's what they were for.
Get over it FaC. You've lost this argument. A "war" does not involve bombing a passenger flight with 73 innocent people on board with C-4 without so much as a single legitimate enemy target being involved. Not that that would justify it either, but at least then they MIGHT could claim they were collateral damage.
If it was a legitimate "war" as you say - which, by the way, is NEVER the case unless Congress has declared war as is mandated by that forgotten document U.S. Constitution - then those in the CIA and other organizations that knew about this and said nothing are guilty of an international war crime.
You're just a kid, so I'm going to excuse you right now, but you DO NOT know what the fuck you're talking about, and I suggest you get a fucking clue real fucking fast.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:53:26 EDT (#)
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Why don't you try responding to my point rather than falling to personal insults.
Lets try working through this one step at a time.
Which part of the phrase 'organised criminals' do you have a problem with?
'Orgasnised', or 'criminals'
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:53:20 EDT (#)
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DCWoody, this is how ETS wins arguments.
Not through logic, reason, or persuasion.
But by being so daft that his counterpart in the argument leaves, unable to pursue talking to the breathing brick wall here.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:48:16 EDT (#)
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Dude.
They broke the fucking law.
They were organised.
That makes them organised criminals. How can you fail to understand this.
Oh fuck this.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:43:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:36:09 (#)
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"The other point of this was to show you video of the protesters being dragged away from Parliament and labeled "organized criminals""
Dude, I really don't see your point with this one, they were
a) organised
b) commiting a crime
That makes them organized criminals, it doesn't matter what their motives were.
If when the anti-free speech protests were going on I had gone down to London and stabbed a few of them, I'd be a murderer.
Wouldn't make any difference that I was doing it for free speech.
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You're a fucking idiot.
I gather from this response you don't know the first thing about what's happening to your own fucking rights in your own country. What a shame. You really are a spineless, reprehensible little puke.
I actually pity you.
Submitted by FunnyAsCancer (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:40:41 EDT (#)
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Why did innocent people have to die?
Because we were at war.
That's what war is. When two bodies of people have some sort of major disagreement, that cannot be diffused with words.
Who goes and fights those wars? The people who instigated them, by declaring their opinion on foreign policy? Are they held personally accountable?
No. The people who die are the innocents.
I would ask you to name one war, in the history of mankind, where the instigator(s) were the first and only ones to die, not one innocent needlessly lost.
You will not find it.
Innocents die. That's what happens. It's a sad story, but it's inevitable.
Both Russia and America agreed to this Cold War. Both of them put up their fists, and dared the other to come forth.
When Russia brought their buddy Cuba into the battle, at first America said, "Fuck that, I ain't playing that game," and declared sanctions.
Cuba and Russia looked at each other, smiled, and went in anyways with the Cuban Missile Crisis. They brought a gun to a fist fight, and America didn't like it.
So they did what they've done since the American Revolution. They bade their time, waiting for a weakness, then went in and hit em with a cheap shot, blowing up the plane.
Russia and Cuba double team and threaten to nuke America, America blows up a Cuban plane. Everybody's fighting dirty, cause that's what war is: dirty, dirty business.
This is everybody's fault. You can't just blame America. Sure, the guy did take the plane out, but it wouldn't have happened if Cuba hadn't entered the situation in the first place.
And it's sad that innocents died, but we had already tried to eliminate Castro, EIGHT TIMES. The man's fucking invincible. And since we couldn't hit him, we hit what belonged to him, hoping he'd stop. Classic military strategy.
As for the whole 14 years thing...the Cold War went on for 40+. This was a slowwwwww drawn-out battle. There was no ground combat, no trenches, no machine guns...this was a battle of will. Attacks come slow. Simple as that.
ETS, you blame America for entirely too much. Sure, sometimes we helped things along, but it's not like we're picking fights cause we're bored. In a lot of cases, we get prompted into things, and it's worth looking at the big picture before judgment is passed.
And I still don't know why you rant here, instead of some place that might actually matter. If you respond to one thing in this comment, let it be that.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:39:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:23:21 (#)
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You never said it did?
You made a whole fucking post about it http://www.ubersite.com/m/90806
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Let me repeat... I never said I knew which part of the English government carried out the attacks on 7/7.
I linked you to a video that showed evidence something fishy was going on within the government and gave examples of the kinds of things that MI5 and MI6 are capable of from insiders.
It told you that not only is the fact that the drill were going on on 7/7 a coincidence, but that coincidence is further compaounded by all the drills that were admitted to have been taking place on 9/11 as well. Like a serial killer, it shows a pattern of behavior, a modus operandi if you will.
I never personally said I knew which elements of your government were in on the attacks. I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to do that.
You need to learn to differentiate what is SAID from what is INFERRED by your own wild imagination.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:36:09 EDT (#)
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"The other point of this was to show you video of the protesters being dragged away from Parliament and labeled "organized criminals""
Dude, I really don't see your point with this one, they were
a) organised
b) commiting a crime
That makes them organized criminals, it doesn't matter what their motives were.
If when the anti-free speech protests were going on I had gone down to London and stabbed a few of them, I'd be a murderer.
Wouldn't make any difference that I was doing it for free speech.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:33:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:22:33 (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:10:57 (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2006-10-11 15:41:35 (#)
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PS ETS, I'm still waiting for an update on how the British govt. (and which part of the British govt. and why) 'did' 7/7.
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I don't know. Never said I did. If I had to guess, I'd say MI5 or MI6 was heavily involved. But I know this...whoever it is has some sort of relationship with Visor Consultants.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/drills_video_visor_consultants.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip.mp3
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DC i know you aren't stupid enough to buy into ETS BS but take five minutes and google this "coincidence". You will see that the security "drill" involved some bored middle managers sitting around a slideshow writing up hone trees they could call in case of emergency, not actually running around in the subway "covering" for the real attackers.
I have posted links to this before to ETS where the guy in the interview admits this, but he refuses to listen.
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Just like you linked me to Silverstein's "explanation" of "pull it". Convenient damage control is what that is. The guy talks about switching from exercise to real world in mid drill, that hardly sounds like a fucking slide show.
You're so fucking gullible it's pathetic.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:30:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-10-11 16:14:44 (#)
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All conspiracy theories have "documented evidence", it just matters how the person views them.
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Yep, and so do the so-called "hard news stories". They, too, are dependent on