The Problem With Humanity (520 hits)
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Submitted by GMCrayon (View user info) at 2007-01-10 23:08:48 EST
None of us have any idea what we're doing.
A lot of people sure think they do, make no mistake. But, when you really get down to it, consider:
Every rational philosophy that has ever been devised ultimately breaks down the moment we get emotional. Our animal nature and our emotions just completely get in the way of rational thought, and if a philosophy only works in a textbook, or when you're completely chilled out, then it's not much use is it? See communism et. al
Every non-rational philosophy developed my man is a load of horse shit by definition. Non-rational just means "wrong". Take your oversoul, your karma, and your tao and shove them up your patchouli smelling asshole.
Religion is like a non-rational philosophy backed up by a healthy PR campaign including promise of redemption from the clusterfuck that is life on earth. So many people fall for this pile-of-horseshit answer because it removes all semblance of personal responsibility and lets you stop thinking. And don't bother pointing me to the so called "rational" proofs of god, becase I'll just point you back to how they all got refuted as soon as they were published. Cartesian cirularity anyone?
Psychologists and psychiatrists are completely lost in space. Their science is so in its infancy that they are the modern day equivalent of Aristotle suggesting that the earth is in the center of the universe surrounded by rotating heavenly spheres. They're completely stabbing in the dark, and S. Freud was a coke addict who apparently was focused on the asshole. If he were around today, he'd be sitting on a PC somewhere watching "Teens With Stretched Assholes 5" masturbating with a butt plug. Scientology may be a complete joke but at least they got psychiatry right. "Oh, but they're professionals". Yes, well only because they award themselves that distinction.
The existentialists seem to have gotten closest but they still can't answer what to do when our emotions overpower our reason. Applying a rational philosophy to axiological human questions has thus far failed. Just like any science issue, if the model breaks down consistently, you need a new model. You can't blame the model because it doens't fit your theory.
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Submitted by peacenik_in_hell (user info) at 2007-01-13 01:54:55 EST (#)
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Well thought out ideas, however I feel that your outlook on religion and philosophy is bleaker than needed. Perhaps such constructs of man are perfect and rational because they help people deal with the stress of daily life. People, like any animal, instinctively look for the easiest way to survive, and because we have "sentience" (or whathaveyou) we need to find a way that is easy emotionally as well as physically.
I wouldn't say that problem with people today is anything but too much "knowledge." People seem to assume that just because they understand how something works that they know why it works. One thing history has proven, is that people will invent any sort of nonsense to fill their heads with and still be able to live perfectly. It's just that today people use "Logic, Science, and Reason." (or whathaveyou).
peace/puck
Submitted by homer42 (user info) at 2007-01-11 17:15:08 EST (#)
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Good!
"And don't bother pointing me to the so called "rational" proofs of god, becase I'll just point you back to how they all got refuted as soon as they were published. Cartesian cirularity anyone?"
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-01-11 14:59:43 EST (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-01-11 13:59:48 (#)
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watching "Teens With Stretched Assholes 5" masturbating with a butt plug
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that was golden.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-01-11 14:33:04 EST (#)
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A = I
*simplify the fuck out of things
(we are also terrible proof readers.)
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-01-11 14:31:25 EST (#)
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Humanity has far more failings than the limited items you cover.
A agree with a fair bit of what you say, however.
Personally I am very rational and am quite able to limit my emotional reactions to conflict.
The largest problem I have with what you have said here - is its just too simple.
Humanity's existence is overwhelmingly complex - yet in order to 'rationalize' the incomprehensible complexity of said existence we tend to simply the fuck out of things.
That is the fundamental beauty and frustration of "liberalism"... while recognizing the importance of individuality - the vast disparity of the human condition makes truly embracing the concept a giant fucking waste of time.
We are all unique. Just like everyone else. All 6.56 billion or so of us.
Each with out own passions, interpretations, experiences, expectations, conclusions, imaginations and opportunity.
Society does it's best to regulate the herd - but there will always be exceptions to every rule.
Truly, humanity's biggest problems are we are willfully ignorant and easily distracted.
n' shit.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-01-11 13:59:48 EST (#)
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watching "Teens With Stretched Assholes 5" masturbating with a butt plug
Submitted by rorrim (user info) at 2007-01-11 08:00:15 EST (#)
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Forgot the deserved +2 here .
Beneficial reading : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski
Submitted by rorrim (user info) at 2007-01-11 07:47:34 EST (#)
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Every non-rational philosophy developed my man is a load of horse shit by definition. Non-rational just means "wrong". Take your oversoul, your karma, and your tao and shove them up your patchouli smelling asshole.
<That was a damn good line>
One thing i didn't find in your list is Non-aristotelism , by Korzybski .
It only has one bottleneck : it demands that you can think and be rational , and
has safety-tricks for when emotion threatens to take over the sane mind .(the nul-a pause...)
Van Vogt used it as base-philosophy in his nul-a series . Quite a shame these books were
stolen from me , fortunately my brain is able to remember 'm .
There's a lot of enlightenment going around on Uber lately . A good sign.
Submitted by GMCrayon (user info) at 2007-01-11 07:12:53 EST (#)
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Getting over +1 for a post I didn't even read through. Great success!
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2007-01-11 07:05:47 EST (#)
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Actually, I know what I'm doing. I also know that there's no real point to it in the long term. By 'long term', I mean of course 'after I'm dead'. So I keep doing it for the short-term benefits: comfortable living for me and mine, and the odd chance to make someone's life a little better or at least a little less boring now and then.
Submitted by laika (user info) at 2007-01-11 01:14:41 EST (#)
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What makes you think the model keeps breaking down?
Maybe the model is fine but many humans are just too emotionally animalistic to consistently follow it. Besides, I think some attempt to solve the central issues of life is better than none at all.
I am not going to waste much time coming up with a meta-theory of life on a site that couldnt care less, but I would guess that some combination of secular buddhism/rational hedonism/scientific method would yield pretty good results. With regards to your emotion problem, much of Buddhism is designed to conquer our natural instincts in favor of a more principled but also sensory existence.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-01-11 00:14:46 EST (#)
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Submitted by locksly (user info) at 2007-01-11 00:06:00 EST (#)
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i'm with ya general motors crayon, thats why I recently converted to scientology
Submitted by GMCrayon (user info) at 2007-01-10 23:16:37 EST (#)
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Don't thank me. Thank the resident Uber Juden.
Submitted by GMCrayon (user info) at 2007-01-10 23:15:48 EST (#)
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HAHAHAHHAHA
Submitted by Malka (user info) at 2007-01-10 23:14:04 EST (#)
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Finally, an intelligent post that doesn't rely on sexual or scatological pictorial representations to get its point across. Thank you.