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Submitted by RoadSong at 2013-10-27 15:40:28 EDT
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Grandmother and the others were whispering in the kitchen about Elisabeth. She was interested in becoming a film star and who wasn't? Several of my aunties were in films back then, and what happened to Elisabeth was of terrible concern. She showed up at casting calls and was familiar to us all. The Black Dalia - the nickname given to Elizabeth Short, was the victim of a ritualistic murder in 1947. The case was never solved. The Black Dahlia was butchered and drained of blood at the Cecil Hotel and dumped nearby.


Elisa Lam

Jesue god the water was running black from her decomposition. We were drinking death. Bathing and making ice cubes and brushing our teeth with human remains long twisted purple white ropes of rotten guts slithering and clogging the system and coming stinking black out of the faucets. By the time I sent ******* up to see what the hell was going on with the low water pressure, the whole town knew. Now the guests are suing our asses.

Trying to blame us for the weird epidemic of a resistant strain of TB. Just because the dead girl had gone to school at the University of Columbia, the location of the Canadian Bio Lab where the strain of drug resistant TB was being cultivated, that is no reason to assume the corpse is infected with TB and that is how the epidemic started. Round up the homeless, the addicted, the winos, whores and bums. Test them now before it is too late.

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis. KCAL9′s Jeff Nguyen went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed. The CDC (Center for Disease Control) has sent scientists to Los Angeles to try and find out where the current outbreak of tuberculosis started, and to try and isolate those affected by it before the outbreak becomes widespread. They have so far identified some 4650 people who have been exposed. TB is not limited to the homeless and the hard up however, and with downtown LA attracting visitors to its cheap hotels there are fears that the outbreak will spread.


We are using the Lam Elisa TB test.
The girl found at the BOTTOM of the water tank, what was her name? Elisa Lam?? Are you sure? WHAT! She was rotting there in the drinking water for THREE WEEKS. I believe she was used to spread this new resistant form of TB.

Lisa Lam, she was a strange girl. Her blogs say things like "Until we have seen someone’s darkness, we don’t really know who they are. Until we have forgiven someone’s darkness, we don’t really know what love is."

The L.A. County Department of Coroner ruled the death “accidental due to drowning” and said no traces of drugs or alcohol were found during the autopsy. How very odd. Found nude and there were no trace of her clothes and things. I am told that LAPD has her cell phone. Did you see the elevator vid from the security cam showing the girl before she died? Weird. The video was doctored. 54 seconds are lost. Wonder who edited the footage and why? The police has hundreds of hours of vid and have released just one snippet. Imagine what the rest of the video surveillance tapes show...

Long history of weirdass shit at this location. The Black Dahlia, that is when we started noticing. We had not seen such a thing back then. Next we had Alistair Crowley and his shitty Satanic human sacrifice cult known for drownings. Next came all those quiet hangings, suicides and jumpers.

Next thing we knew here was the killin bastard satan worshipping Ramirez. He slaughtered at least 14 people in California, and there were many more we could not prove. He would shoot you, knife you, or beat you with a tire iron and rape you. You could be 80 or you could be 8. He tortured you and forced you to say HAIL SATAN. Ramirez was a nasty eyeballsucking piece of work. Eyes, he collected eyes. He sucked the eyes out of his victims and ate them. Elisa Lam was missing her eyes when they hauled her out of the water tank after three weeks. Of course, Elisa's eyes probably just turned into black jelly and oozed from the taps when the guests turned them on.

Some say the Night Stalker still walks the halls of the Cecil in his bloody clothes looking for more children to shred with his sharp teeth.

Ramirez, labeled “the Nightstalker”, was living at the Cecil Hotel in 1985, in a top floor room. He was charged 14 dollars a night. In a building filled with transients, he remained unnoticed as he stalked, tortured, and killed his victims. He was dumping his bloody clothes in the Dumpster, at the end of his evening and returning via the back entrance. The detectives were keeping their weapons on their night stands unholstered. Nightstalker entered a home and did his bloody work right across the street from one cops house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6T7QWG14wU Born To Kill

Crowley? Strange creepy man. He worshipped elSatan and claimed he was in contact with a entity called Lam. What? Well yes, that is the name of the girl in the water tank aaand also the name of the TB test they are running on people in the area where she as found.

Jack Unterweger, was a journalist turned serial killer covering crime in Los Angeles for an Austrian magazine in 1991. He was living at the Cecil Hotel in homage to Ramirez. He is blamed with killing women while being a guest at the Cecil. He stayed at the Cecil Hotel for five weeks in 1991 while murdering women. At night, Unterweger welcomed the hookers who climbed up the fire escape to his room to earn $30. He also picked up streetwalkers on 7th Street, strangled them with their own bra-straps, then dumped their bodies nearby, naked and posed obscenely. Police suspect Unterweger scoped out the sites ahead of time. He committed suicide after being convicted for several murders.

In the 50’s and 60’s the Cecil was known as a place that people would go to jump out of one of the hotel’s windows to commit suicide.


In February 2013, this 21-year-old student from Vancouver, Canada, was found dead inside the Cecil Hotel’s rooftop water tank in Los Angeles. The L.A. County Department of Coroner ruled the death “accidental due to drowning” and said no traces of drugs or alcohol were found during the autopsy. However, there is much more to the story than what is implied by police reports. The first piece of evidence that needs to be considered is an elevator surveillance tape that recorded Elisa’s behavior only a few moments before she lost her life.
Here’s the video.

At first, Elisa enters the elevator and apparently presses all of its buttons. She then waits for something to happen but, for some reason, the elevator door doesn’t shut. She starts to look around, as if she is expecting (or hiding from) someone. At 1:57, her arms and hands start moving in a very strange matter (almost not human) as she appears to be talking to someone, something … or nothing at all. She then walks away. The elevator door then closes - opens - closes - opens - closes - opens - closes. Elisa is not seen alive again.

Seeing the surveillance footage, most people would conclude that she was under the influence of drugs. However, Elisa did not have a history of drug use and her autopsy concluded that no drugs were involved. When one looks at the context and the circumstances of this death, things become even more mysterious.


Built in the 1920s to cater to “businessmen to come into town and spend a night or two”, Cecil Hotel was quickly upstaged by more glamorous hotels. Located near the infamous Skid Row area, the hotel began renting rooms on a long-term basis for cheap prices, a policy that attracted a shiftier crowd. The hotel’s reputation quickly went from “shifty” to “morbid” when it became notorious for numerous suicides and murders, as well as lodging famous serial killers.

Three serial killers, Richard Ramirez, Jack Unterweger and The Skid Row Slasher, all played bloody hell in Los Angeles, while being a guest at the Cecil. In the 50’s and 60’s the Cecil was known as a place that people would go to jump out of one of the hotel’s windows to commit suicide. Helen Gurnee, in her 50s, leaped from a seventh floor window, landing on the Cecil Hotel marquee, on October 22, 1954. Julia Moore jumped from her eighth floor room window, on February 11, 1962. Pauline Otton, 27, jumped from a ninth floor window after an argument with her estranged husband, on October 12, 1962. Otton landed on George Gianinni, 65, who was walking on the side walk, 90 feet below. Both were killed instantly.

Elisa Lam’s case is another sordid addition to the hotel’s history and can lead us to ask: “What the hell is wrong with that place”? The Hotel Cecil and Downtown's Historic Core have an equally dark and seedy past stemming from the early 1900s when the area was a mix of those down on their luck hoping to strike it rich in Los Angeles and wealthy businessmen. Downtown's past adds to its character and romance.


The Movie “Dark Water”

The story of Elisa Lam is similar to the 2005 horror movie Dark Water. Dahlia, the main protagonist of the movie moves into an apartment building with her young daughter Cecilia. Both of these names are relevant. In the movie, the daughter’s name, Cecilia, is, obviously, quite similar to the name Cecil Hotel.

Dahlia notices dark water leaking from the ceiling in her bathroom. A young girl named Natasha Rimsky drowned in the building’s rooftop water tank, which caused the water to turn black. The owner of the apartment building knew about this fact but refused to take action. Elisa Lam’s body was in the water tank for over two weeks, causing hotel guests to complain about foul tasting “black water”.

The ending of the movie is also eerily relevant: The apartment buildings elevator malfunctions and the ghost of Cecilia’s mother braids her hair. Is Elisa Lam’s death one of those ritualistic murders that are synchronistically mirrored in a Hollywood movie?


LA authorities ruled in June 2013 that Elisa Lam’s death was accidental and that she was “probably bi-polar”. That being said, some questions remain unanswered. How did Elisa, who was obviously not in her right mind, end up in the hotel’s water tank, an area that is difficult to access? Here’s a news report describing the water tank area.

As the reporter states in the video, the rooftop area is protected by an alarm system and the water tank is difficult to reach. It is possible to take the fire escape all the way to the roof if you are so inclined. How did Elisa reach that area? Also, how did she close the water tank lid?

As is usually the case for strange deaths, authorities have been incredibly secretive and non-transparent during this investigation. What truly happened here? Why are there so many strange coincidences? Why was Elisa Lam acting so strange in the elevator? Was there a ritualistic aspect to this death? Why is the Cecil Hotel a hotbed for these kinds of stories? Is there some paranormal stuff going on there involving dark entities? Authorities do not seem to be wanting to probe further.

Dark Water movie posters : “Some mysteries are not meant to be solved”.

There are many registered sex offenders, parolees, and ex-convicts living at The Cecil Hotel.

Self-described Satanist Richard Ramirez spent 24 years on Death Row after his spree of demonic murders. Ricky left satanic signs at murder scenes and mutilated victims' bodies. He was convicted in 1989 of 13 murders, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglaries which terrorized California in 1984 and 1985. He is implicated in many additional crimes that remain unsolved. His charges included rape, sodomy and oral copulation.

At his first court appearance, Ramirez raised a hand with a pentagram drawn on it and yelled, 'Hail, Satan.' Courtroom observers wept when survivors of some of the attacks testified. Satanic symbols were left at murder scenes and some victims were forced to 'swear to Satan' by the killer, who entered homes through unlocked windows and doors. After his conviction, Ramirez flashed a two-fingered 'devil sign' to photographers and muttered a single word: 'Evil.'

On his way to a jail bus, he sneered in reaction to the verdict, muttering: "See you in Disneyland."
Ramirez, a native of El Paso Texas, had a following of young women admirers who came to the courtroom regularly and sent him love notes. One female journalist married him inside the prison when he was on death row.

NIGHT STALKER TIMELINE. Known victims include:
Joyce Lucille Nelson-61-beaten to death 1985
Mei Leung-9-years old
Peter Pan-66-and his wife Barbara 1985
Dale Okazaki-34-1985
Jennie Vincow-79 1984 stabbed, decapitated and sexually assaulted after death.
María Hernández-20 1985
Dayle Okazaki-34 1985
Tsai 'Veronica' Lian Yu-30
Vincent Zazzara-64 and his wife Maxine 44. Mrs Zazzara's body was mutilated. She had a carving of the letter 'T' over her left breast and her eyes were gouged out.
William and Lillie Doi-1985
Mabel Bell-84-and her invalid sister Florence Lang-81 1985
Elyas Abowath-35-and his wife
Carol Kyle-30 1985
Mary Louise Cannon-75 1985
Whitney Bennett-16- 1985
Joyce Lucille Nelson-61-1985
Maxson Kneiding-68- and his wife Lela-66
Chainarong Khovananth-32- then sodomized his wife and son
Christopher Petersen, 38, and his wife, Virginia, 27Aug. 6, 1985: Ramirez shot both Christopher Petersen, 38, and his wife, Virginia, 27, in the head. Miraculously, they both survived
Elyas Abowath-35- and his wife 1985
Bill Carns-29- his fiancée Inez Erickson-29


Elisa left behind a couple of blogs . Check them out sometime.

Her blog http://etherfields.blogspot.hk/
Her tumblr blog http://nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com/

She was a writer who said things like "I would kiss you in the middle of a lightning storm. I would kiss you knowing it would kill me, cause I’d rather be left for dead than left to wonder what thunder sounds like."

“You’re always haunted by the idea you’re wasting your life.” — Chuck Palahniuk

"There was never yet an uninteresting life. Such a thing is an impossibility. Inside of the dullest exterior there is drama, a comedy and a tragedy."

"Until we have seen someone’s darkness, we don’t really know who they are. Until we have forgiven someone’s darkness, we don’t really know what love is."

"I want to see more girl monsters. Girl giants, girl dragons, hulks & trolls. Scylla and hydra. Girl monsters who are huge and whole. Teeth and plush fur and long muscled tails. Heads enough to see you anywhere. Gleaming green or brown. But girl monsters are usually zombies or vampires. Pale and thin, bleeding or dead. Not Lady Lazarus, not a phoenix from the ash. I want to see how you get strong without being broken first. Get strong and stay strong. Get big and bigger."

"I take pleasure in my transformations. I look quiet and consistent, but few know how many women there are in me."
Anaïs Nin

"You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I’ll rise."
Maya Angelou

I have arrived in Laland…
and there is a monstrosity of a building next to the place I’m staying
when I say monstrosity mind you I’m saying as in gaudy
but then again it was built in 1928 hence the art deco theme so yes it IS classy but then since it’s LA it went on crack


i wish i could put part of my brain into a taped shut box and shove it to the back of my closet for the night

I’m going out tonight

I really hope no creeper comes near me

Seriously though

those Italian and Mexican guys go after you STRONG

Show the slightest inclination and they hound you

I wonder what sound love makes as it dies—
and is it so different from the sound of breathing?

"People, I have discovered, are layers and layers of secrets. You believe you know them, that you understand them, but their motives are always hidden from you, buried in their own hearts. You will never know them, but sometimes you decide to trust them."


Excerpt from a post by 刘新楠 on Facebook.

"I noticed that the mop has a post, published in February 18th,showed that Eliasa Lam is in the water tank!But actually she was found in February 19th!!In addition, this poster registration time is January 31st, just her disappearance time!!
I have a very important information, there may be a murder.Please believe me!
刘新楠 You could check my second posting on fb,someone posting on mop showed that Lam was in the water tank,and the posting time on mop is February 18th.
Now, posts on a Chinese social networking site have muddied the waters further, with a person credited with this comment: "Elisa lam is in hotel water tank, seems no life, hurry up (to find her)." Los Angeles is a city of adventure. A place for political elite social-engineers prostitution in one hand, and create prostitution killer in another, and amazingly profit from murder, killing, and drugs on street. The government profit from filming movies and pornography, and then get rid of producer, act and actress altogether afterwards. They murder and then film the murder. Ha, create money from nowhere, brilliant ideas. This TOURIST was raped and murdered and disposed of in the notorious shady creepy X con infested homeless living sexual offender residents pedophille having Hotel!!! And of course LAPD knows this!!!!"

The above post was shared on a Facebook page belonging to Liu Xinnan 刘新楠]. Did the writer know Elisa Lam was in the hotel water tank, possibly still alive? Could she have been saved?


The 1927 Hotel Cecil is a downtown landmark (and happens to be part of Pantless Alley). Now it is branded as "The Premier Choice of Affordable Downtown Los Angeles Hotels." In addition to offering hotel rooms, it houses the modern "Stay on Main" YOUTH HOSTEL and 300 low-income residential units rented to the county for housing parolees. Tourists have rooms unaware they are staying at the deadliest place in town. Imagine booking a room at a "youth hostel" and finding yourself at The Cecil?? The place also houses convention attendees and serial killers. It has also been the site of quite a few commercials and movie filmings this year.

The Pershing Square "pigeon lady" Goldie Osgood was raped and killed in her room at the Hotel Cecil. Her case remains unsolved. NOT THE PIGEON LADY TOO!!!

In 1985, when rates were as low as $14 a night, the "Night Stalker" lived for several months in a 14th floor room of the Hotel Cecil.

The Cecil Hotel is one such place where the cheap rates and no reservation needed policy makes it attractive to visitors. The Cecil though has a few secrets it may not want to tell its guests about.

Even before this the hotel was not new to tragedy. In 1962 Pauline Otten, who was 27, jumped from the window of her room. She landed on a passerby killing them both.

It is confirmed that Elisa was staying on the 4th floor of the Cecil. A person who was stayed on the 3rd floor told that he heard a loud noise, like if something fell on the floor where Elisa was staying on the night she was last seen. Another man who was in the Cecil at the time Elisa was there and had his room on the 4th floor, said that police never asked him any questions.

Seems that a lot of people see some sort of fuzzy moving shadow in the elevator itself. Most visible in the reflection of the door and doorpost. Others will say its because of the bad quality of the footage. Elisa looks to be talking to somebody who is NOT SEEN on the video and is trying to explain something to this person. Footage from a security cam video in the elevator showed Elisa Lam behaving strangely on the last day she was seen alive. The young woman almost appeared to be hiding from someone or something. The LAPD has a lot more footage from the security cameras that night, but they sure as hell aren't sharing them. If INTERPOL and the Canadians had not butted in this case, NONE of the security vid would have been made public.

Check out the short video clip released by the Los Angeles Police. Footage from a security cam video in the elevator showed Elisa Lam behaving strangely on the last day she was seen alive. The young woman almost appeared frantic, maybe hiding from someone or something. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE REST OF THE FOOTAGE IS LIKE??


They say fact is often stranger than fiction….

I noticed that when you use google maps and zoom in to Hotel Cecil, you can see that there is a company registered in the building. The Invisible Light Agency. THE INVISIBLE LIGHT AGENCY? When you search the net you will find out that they work with light and “other realities”. The company is mentioned in an article dating back to 2011, where it’s explained what the activities of the Invisible Light Agency are. Anthony V. (linkdin) is also mentioned. At this moment Anthony V. is working as supervisor at Raytheon Missle Systems, a company that develops weapons. Besides the (fake)login screen on their website, you’ll also find a logo of triangles. The website obviously serves nothing, or nothing anymore. I wonder what project Anthony V. is supervising nowadays?
Elisa sent a tweet on the 13th of January with an article in the Huffington Post about a Canadian company that is going to get support from the Pentagon to develop a cloaking material to make soldiers invisible. Could this explain why it appears she was talking to somebody that does not appear to be there? A company that is going to get support from the Pentagon to develop a cloaking material to make soldiers invisible.

All this just adds to the confusion, don’t you think?

- http://invisiblelight.tv
- http://invisiblelight.tv/il_client_login.php


The development of cloaking technology, is a long running project between the United States and South-Korea.

After the news of Elisa’s story went global, several facebook accounts suddenly appeared using her name. One of these accounts (Now Removed) was named “Lam Elisa” and only had one friend on her friend list, an American male working for the U.S Army based in South Korea...



In 1889, writer Aleister Crowley wrote a poem called Jephtha while staying in the CECIL HOTEL in London. Jephtha was a Judge of Israel who burned his daughter, Seila, as a sacrifice. The daughter of Jephtha is SEILA, SEILA means “asked for ". SEILA is an anagram for ELISA.

“According to Thelemic legend, in 1918 Aleister Crowley came into contact with a interdimensional entity named LAM.


Elisa Lam went to and graduated from the University of British Columbia. The Center for Tuburculosis Research is located at the UBC as well.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/1h7_XyJLxE0/?resourceId=0_06_02_99 WATER TANK!
This video seems to show a face near the hands that seem to be Elisas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuDtHrgXp4U vid made by "Morbid" at the Cecil. Dead girl in vid.

Credits given to the owners of the films and the articles used for reference.

213-346-2700 Canadian embassy in LA. Extension seven gets you the RCMP Liaison.
LAPD Homicide (central division.) This number will get you to the detectives involved in Elisa Lam's case: 213-972-1203
Coroner's office. 323-343-0754

I have to say this is the strangest thing I have ever written. It’s like dust in the wind, it all kind of swirls together but there is nothing at its core…

Excuse the rambling disconnected weirdness of this post. The things I saw while researching for this GrÜeBERfest entry have left me boggled and I am packing for Los Angeles. I have applied for the position of fry cook at the Cecil coffee shop.






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Submitted by skrapmetal at 2013-10-29 18:50:49 EDT (#)

No excuse for rusty skegs. Practice them away and get some new ones. An unreliable surfboard is worse than no surfboard.

Submitted by RoadSong at 2013-10-29 14:36:13 EDT (#)

Have only the ancient .38 Special with rusty skegs...
Never heard of such a thing. Fridge upended and sideways blocking cabin door during night - no noise - no barking. Disconcerting and creepy.

I could say something flip about NightStalkerSatanicBastards, but this is too close to home. A BEAR, must have been a bear. Bears reek however, and the outside dogs would have raised hell..

Submitted by skrapmetal at 2013-10-29 13:29:34 EDT (#)

Keep your rifle handy. You have visitors.

Submitted by RoadSong at 2013-10-29 12:59:25 EDT (#)

This morning when I opened my cabin door the fridge on the porch had been tossed on it's side. I climbed over it to get outside. There was no wind here and I heard nothing during the night.


Submitted by rats at 2013-10-28 21:24:30 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

I actually read this while eating dinner.

Submitted by EyeInTheSky at 2013-10-28 10:28:10 EDT (#)
Rating: 2

Evil pics

Submitted by skrapmetal at 2013-10-27 18:39:40 EDT (#)


Submitted by RoadSong at 2013-10-27 18:16:07 EDT (#)

eh, scan the first paragraph and head for the photos?

Submitted by bart made me laugh at 2013-10-27 18:04:06 EDT (#)

that's what mrs shlongy whispered in my ear last night

Submitted by Shlongy at 2013-10-27 17:53:05 EDT (#)

Jesus, this is long.

Kirk: One day your wife is making you your favorite meal, the next day
you're thawin'a hot dog in a gas station sink.

Homer: Oh, that's tough, pal. But it's never gonna happen to me.

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