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APW: O David, O Death

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 12:56:44 EST
Rating: 1.88 on 52 ratings (52 reviews) (Review this item) (V)

Five smooth stones
That have broken lions' bones
And have humbled in the wilderness the bear
Now click and scatter, shuffling in a hip-low shoulder sack,
A staff, a start, the promise of departing,
The whip-wind spinning, the distance thinning
Between sacrament and savage, ravage and redeemer,
Vanity begging to bleed across the span
He is but a man, he can die as a man,
A stream-shaped rock fingered, placed, whirled, lingered
Hummed out its song above the boasting from the beast,
The least, the first, the promise of a priest,
Can one smooth stone
Break more than a lion's bone?

Be merciful, O God, that my aim may be true.

The sling-slap crack, breaking bronze and blackening
The giant's eyes reclining, rolling, cracking under skies scored flat,
Now as cattle called and fattened, as a sacrifice, he stares,
Blood-eyes seeing streaking red from the stream that splits his head
As a second sort of thief approaches quickly from the side,
An idol as his guide, godhanded and young, too young,
Fair as sons and daughters soon without
Their father, small in the great hands that lifted
And calmed, settled and palmed their laughing frames,
Their names, their names, forgotten, lost to pain -
From his lips escapes a call of love
A helpless last refrain
As his tongue spit pitch and nonsense
On the rocks of Elah's plains.

The stone-shot skull little hands begin to pull
Lifting shifting weight at angles, baring back the throat,
With a bareboned wrist the fallen's sword begins to kiss
First a slit, then a slash, as the pool becomes a moat
And the floodgates late of Gath will now all Samuel's standards coat.

The dart but plucked the string, the iron cast the final note.



Caravaggio - David With the Head of Goliath.JPG
Caravaggio - David With the Head of Goliath.JPG


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Submitted by phuzzygish at 2006-12-01 02:17:23 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Yes it does, you just to believe.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-30 11:49:13 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Silly phuzzy..."O-Tron" doesn't rhyme with "tree."

Submitted by phuzzygish at 2006-11-30 03:40:54 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by charminglybeef (user info) at 2006-11-29 16:47:15 (#)
Ranking: 2
....

I think I just got a little hung up on the idea of poets being the scribes of history.
...

My email's in my user info. Drop me a line some time.

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BEEF AND O_TRON
SITTING IN A TREE
M-A-N-L-O-V-E

FIRST COMES LURVE
THEN COMES MARRIAGE
THEN COMES A SLIGHTLY RED AND CHAFED ORIFICE

Submitted by JoeyG at 2006-11-30 03:29:43 EST (#)
Rating: 2

"Between sacrament and savage, ravage and redeemer"

Just one of many lines I loved in this.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-30 00:16:53 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by charminglybeef (user info) at 2006-11-29 18:41:34 (#)
Ranking: 2

I still think HotWillie is Orgasmatron's alter.

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Ha. Like I'd ever "0" myself with an alter.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 23:53:02 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Bubs - I see your point. Perhaps I've spent too much time looking back on life 500, 600 or 700 years ago to give much consideration to the present day. Stupid interest in Renaissance and medieval things! I always knew it wouldn't get me anywhere. Besides down the corsets of busty maidens at ye olde towne faire.


Coleslaw - Getting paid to write poems to Caravaggio paintings? Sign me up.
Oh, and I've met college graduates who don't know how to read those fancy old clocks with the faces and different sized hands. No lie.


HI AXOLOTL

HI RIC FLAIRS

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 23:48:16 EST (#)
Rating: 2

O David (Lowery), (sang) O Death

My name is death and I excel
I can open the gates to Heaven or Hell
Cast aside the flesh of thee
Cast aside and set you free

O Death
O Death
Can't you spare me over 'til another year..

Submitted by Fungah at 2006-11-29 20:59:12 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Bubba2341 at 2006-11-29 20:31:25 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-29 15:44:35 (#)
Ranking: 0

I dare say you will find no more legends in the present. The world is much too busy, compartmentalized and jaded to allow for folklore to gain a new foothold. Myth is best served by the past, when life still had a mystery about it and great men and great women were still possible. People today don't want fantasy and marvel. They long to be marveled. They long for the fantastic. But they do not truly want it. If presented with something marvelous they will try to discount it. They will take it apart and look at its gears and its process. They will break it down. Then it's simply not marvelous anymore. It's a collection of parts.

Say what you will about the advancements we've brought about and the progress we've made in industry, science, travel and communication. For all the good it's done it's taken away our ability to believe. It's a small world, after all.
_________________
People thought the same thing 100, 50, 25 years ago. 200 years down the road folks will look back at the archaic asswipes of our age with disdain, wondering how we got along in our primitive world.
Things change, usually for the better.

Gasm, you are pretty bright guy and an excellent poet.


Submitted by Coleslaw_Murphy at 2006-11-29 19:34:40 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Modern mythology = superheroes & sci-fi (except with that modern dose of half-assed-ness).
Seemingly regular people with super-abilities, akin to the classic mythological gods.

You could self-publish a book, The Herald of Carvaggio... I'd buy it (but not for more than $20 - gotta stop somewhere).

But yes, I agree, most people these days are Specialists. It has something to do with the need for experts to decipher the explosion of information and technology, but I blame it on the overreaction to this need by the educational systems (no country is exempt). I certainly could've THRIVED in a renaissance-style educational environment.

These days, the guy who proves the breakthrough mathematical theorem is the same guy who can't tie his fucking shoes (let alone sculpt a dancing woman), and that's a shame.

Submitted by charminglybeef at 2006-11-29 18:41:34 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I still think HotWillie is Orgasmatron's alter.

Submitted by Axolotl at 2006-11-29 18:40:43 EST (#)
Rating: 2

i can't much see how it's "gaming the system" to reply to people with an interest in their opinions. the phrase sounds so dark and undercover, as if we're spies trying to overthrow a government. ngr plz, WarmWilliam, no need to sound shady

Submitted by HotWillie at 2006-11-29 18:23:57 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2006-11-29 18:20:45 (#)
Ranking: 2

HI ORGASMATRON
NI SACRILICIOUS





It's called 'The 4 Ric Flairs', HotWillie, perhaps you've seen our gang tags around the place. We're fearsome and awesome.

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hahaha

I better stop replying lest I be charged with contributing to your delinquency.

Forge on!

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 18:20:45 EST (#)
Rating: 2

HI ORGASMATRON
NI SACRILICIOUS





It's called 'The 4 Ric Flairs', HotWillie, perhaps you've seen our gang tags around the place. We're fearsome and awesome.

Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 18:08:22 EST (#)
Rating: 2

HI HOTWILLIE!

Why don't you write something so we can camp there?

I'm off to the gym right now, but I'll be sure to check back later.


HI O

HI SCOURGE

Submitted by HotWillie at 2006-11-29 18:02:27 EST (#)
Rating: 0

And you are all so quick, too.

Just noting it.

Keep the conversation going!


Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 18:01:55 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I meant me.

I only speak for me.

2.

Now as many to you as prior.

Submitted by HotWillie at 2006-11-29 17:59:45 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2006-11-29 17:58:00 (#)
Ranking: 2

Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2006-11-29 17:48:51 (#)
Ranking: 0

I think about 50% of the reviews here are by you and scourge and sacrilicious.

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I've commented exactly twice before this comment. A bit of an overreaction, I'd say.

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haha. Nope 19 out of 34 for you three scamps, if this comes in proper.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 17:58:41 EST (#)
Rating: 0

HI SCOURGE
HI SACRILICIOUS

Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 17:58:00 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2006-11-29 17:48:51 (#)
Ranking: 0

I think about 50% of the reviews here are by you and scourge and sacrilicious.

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I've commented exactly twice before this comment. A bit of an overreaction, I'd say.

Submitted by HotWillie at 2006-11-29 17:57:55 EST (#)
Rating: 0

I didn't mean it was bad, either. Just an observation.

Good on you and your friends to game the system.

Cheers.

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 17:56:08 EST (#)
Rating: 2

dun dun dun

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 17:55:59 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2006-11-29 17:48:51 (#)
Ranking: 0

I think I remember you telling Axolotl that you looked at his number of reviews and divided by 2 to get the actual number of distinct reviews.

I think about 50% of the reviews here are by you and scourge and sacrilicious.

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Sure did. Didn't say it was a bad thing either. Just noting it was all. It's one of those endearing tells that you pick up after a while. The kid's a social animal, and we're the better for it. He keeps the conversation going.

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 17:55:55 EST (#)
Rating: 2

WELL, NO SHIT, WILLIE.

This IS our personal IM after all.





PLUS, I AM ORGASMATRONS ALTER.

Submitted by HotWillie at 2006-11-29 17:48:51 EST (#)
Rating: 0

I think I remember you telling Axolotl that you looked at his number of reviews and divided by 2 to get the actual number of distinct reviews.

I think about 50% of the reviews here are by you and scourge and sacrilicious.

The art is wonderful.

The poem was worth reading.

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 17:47:00 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I HAVE NEW DAY RISING, BUT I COULD ALWAYS USE A COPY FOR THE OFFICE.

SO IT'S A BET.



SHOW YOUR WHORES.



I'VE GOT A STRWBRYFANATIC, A HILARITY_ENSUES, A JADE, A MCLEGS, A BADASSJULIE, A FORENSICGIRL, A JEANNEEE AND HALF A SACRILICIOUS.

WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 17:09:25 EST (#)
Rating: 2

OKAY, WE'VE GOT A TRIPLE DICKLE DOG WANG, THE NOONIE SLOSH TRAIL, THE ANAL BLEACHING, THE TWO TOSSED SALADS AND TIGERLILLY'S LEG ALL HANGING...

AND I'LL SEE YOUR EIGHT FARTHINGS, THE BLUMPKIN AND A HUSKER DU CD.

AND....I CALL IT.




THAT'S IT, THROW YOUR WHORES ON THE TABLE AND WE'LL SEE WHO TAKES THE POT.









(which Husker Du CD?)

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 16:54:24 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-29 16:40:19 (#)
Ranking: 2

you rang?

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Ring yourself, Bellhead.






C-Beef: I kind of used your review as a jumping off point for a much more general musing. I rambled and didn't actually ever touch on the subject you raised. I think it's something worth considering, and we can certainly continue this discussion another time. I really appreciate your comments, though - the feedback is encouraging and humbling. It's like I'm a schoolgirl getting her first gold star all over again.

Submitted by DonovanMD at 2006-11-29 16:54:02 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I rarely rate poetry, but this was awesome.

Submitted by charminglybeef at 2006-11-29 16:47:15 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I most certainly do agree with you that mythological characters in themselves are no longer really possible. I mean, by it's truest definition, a myth in western society would just never really come about. There is really little room left for characters or stories to be crafted and believed explicitly. I think they're called 'Novels' nowadays.

What I had suggested (and I think what started your whole cynical tirade (which philanthropists scourge and myself felt compelled to jump upon (for the good of the greater human outlook!))) was that I think it would be interesting to see you attempt to immortalize characters of modern history, and to take some of those creative liberties that might allow you to paint them in a mythical way. A contemporary spin on the ancient myth.

I think I just got a little hung up on the idea of poets being the scribes of history.

Sorry about that.

PS: My email's in my user info. Drop me a line some time.

Submitted by Crystle at 2006-11-29 16:44:46 EST (#)
Rating: 2

O-man, you're brilliant.


I will await your prose series; "Classic American Myths, Tall Tales, and other stories,Retold"

John Henry, Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan and his Blue Ox - Babe, Davy Crockett, Pocahontas, The Donner Party, Pecos Bill, Billy the Kid, Daniel Boone, Casey Jones, Tales of the Underground Railroad, Jesse James, Calamity Jane, Annie Oakley, SOOOO many more possibilities here...

Submitted by apollo88 at 2006-11-29 16:40:19 EST (#)
Rating: 2

you rang?

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 16:18:36 EST (#)
Rating: 0

I was speaking more in terms of fantastic characters. Gods, demigods, titans. Looking down, I see I was being a bit vague. General. Myth and legend are better tailored to the past because their classical characters wouldn't thrive in today's world if their stories were told now as if they had never been told before. "Zeus" wouldn't be able to reside upon a mountaintop, throw lightning bolts and impregnate whoever he wanted to today. He'd be analyzed by government scientists and subjected to tests. Or used for military purposes. Or he'd be hollowed out...explained away as an example of irregular electrical imbalance in the body. "Aphrodite" and "Eros" would be replaced by a nymphomaniac and a charismatic kid with exceptional suggestive potential.

I do, however, love when old stories are reconciled with the modern world. Neil Gaiman's American Gods and Anansi Boys, for example.

Our legendary characters can only really be human now. Which I imagine makes them much more accessible, but certainly less fun. I think John Henry was one of the last great fantastic characters to come out of our collective head. And yeah he could drive steel like a mofo with his gigantic 30lb. wanghammer, sure, but he's more of an example of human potential than wonder.

Submitted by charminglybeef at 2006-11-29 16:14:34 EST (#)
Rating: 2

And I say there are many. Granted, their form and function have changed, but there are still many, and the times are still ripe!

It does often seem that science and logic have stripped our existence of its magic, but at the same time, they have added much to the depths of our dreams. Human understanding will always have its boundaries, and to push beyond them is to push once again into the domain of the mythical.

There will always be new places to explore and exploit and infinite tracts of the unknown and the unfathomable.

Tap into that and... I guess you're just writing shitty science fiction.

You're right. Nevermind.



Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 15:59:23 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-29 15:44:35 (#)
Ranking: 0

I dare say you will find no more legends in the present. The world is much too busy, compartmentalized and jaded to allow for folklore to gain a new foothold. Myth is best served by the past, when life still had a mystery about it and great men and great women were still possible. People today don't want fantasy and marvel. They long to be marveled. They long for the fantastic. But they do not truly want it. If presented with something marvelous they will try to discount it. They will take it apart and look at its gears and its process. They will break it down. Then it's simply not marvelous anymore. It's a collection of parts.

Say what you will about the advancements we've brought about and the progress we've made in industry, science, travel and communication. For all the good it's done it's taken away our ability to believe. It's a small world, after all.

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There is still room for marvel and wonder, it's just at new and different things. We've become our own Gods, for the most part.

I'd say perhaps greater men and women are possible, because after going through the process of growing and understanding the world around you...of being able to be aware of our place in the greater scheme of things better than ever before...AFTER doing this, those who still choose to live their lives according to a set of morals, ideals that don't impede on the lives of others, and then go on to push themselves to the greatest levels of success in the arena they have chosen for themselves.

The artist who pushes his abilities to a place beyond what was ever possible before because of the understanding human progress anabled...that persons work inspires wonder.

The surgeons and dcotors in a long line, standing on the shoulders of those who came before them...their ability, due to human progress, to make life bearable from beginning to end for those who would have otherwise suffered horribly...that inspires wonder.

These things inspire wonder, they inspire desire to make oneself better...to best what came before you.




bah



what do i know? i'm just some guy on the internet.

nevermind.


Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 15:44:35 EST (#)
Rating: 0

I dare say you will find no more legends in the present. The world is much too busy, compartmentalized and jaded to allow for folklore to gain a new foothold. Myth is best served by the past, when life still had a mystery about it and great men and great women were still possible. People today don't want fantasy and marvel. They long to be marveled. They long for the fantastic. But they do not truly want it. If presented with something marvelous they will try to discount it. They will take it apart and look at its gears and its process. They will break it down. Then it's simply not marvelous anymore. It's a collection of parts.

Say what you will about the advancements we've brought about and the progress we've made in industry, science, travel and communication. For all the good it's done it's taken away our ability to believe. It's a small world, after all.

Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 15:38:35 EST (#)
Rating: 2

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 15:38:12 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I'LL SEE YOUR TRIPLE DICKLE DOG WANG, YOUR NOONIE SLOSH TRAIL, AND YOUR ANAL BLEACHING

AND I'LL RAISE YOU TWO TOSSED SALADS AND TIGERLILLY'S LEG

Submitted by charminglybeef at 2006-11-29 15:34:21 EST (#)
Rating: 2

When I read these I always feel as if you've captured the voice of the times too -- it's that glorified recording of the past, if you know what I mean -- where poets immortalized history, complete with all their bias and flamboyance.

I think it would be great to see you create your own modern myths or even showcase contemporary history in this way.

Can you imagine people reading the great works of Orgasmatron in school one day?

Dare to dream.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 15:29:06 EST (#)
Rating: 0

You're charming...beef. Thanks for reading.

Submitted by charminglybeef at 2006-11-29 15:23:02 EST (#)
Rating: 2

You're a very talented man, Orgasmatron.

With every post I am in awe. The fact that you do it daily is simply amazing.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 14:05:45 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Donatello's David is a bit more boyish compared to Michelangelo's, but the severed head is still small:

http://www.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/classes/ah111/L17/17-40.jpg


My what a fancy little killer fop he is.

Nice suggestive helmet feather running up the inside of his thigh, too.

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 13:59:30 EST (#)
Rating: 0

Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2006-11-29 13:41:55 (#)
Ranking: 2


This was very, very, very good. Hardly anything rates three verys.

That painting always bothered me. It's the Michaelangelo's David thing all over again.

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Agreed. He was over nine feet tall if the descriptions are to be believed. That'd be a pretty massive wan...I mean head. I mean skull. Yeah. "Skull." Anyway, the scale is a bit off.

Art is funny like that though. Michelangelo's Pietà is beautiful, to be sure, but it's been determined that if Mary was unseated stood up next to Jesus she'd be massive compared to him. Something like five meters tall.

In the words of someone, "That's a big bitch."

Maybe she'd dig Goliath.

Submitted by TheUniter at 2006-11-29 13:52:43 EST (#)
Rating: 2


Submitted by Jack_McCallum at 2006-11-29 13:43:46 EST (#)
Rating: 2


That should read 'Goliath's HEAD should be bigger.' I'm not commenting on his wang.

Then again, maybe Goliath was this skinny little wimp with a massive wang, and it was the women of the time who named him.

Submitted by Jack_McCallum at 2006-11-29 13:41:55 EST (#)
Rating: 2


This was very, very, very good. Hardly anything rates three verys.

That painting always bothered me. It's the Michaelangelo's David thing all over again.

I mean, the guy is called GOLIATH, so like David's little peanut of a wang, Goliath's should be bigger. Unless of course Goliath was a really huge guy with a tiny head... sort of the the Anti-Apollo.

Submitted by Susie_Derkins at 2006-11-29 13:27:47 EST (#)
Rating: 2

comment

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 13:24:49 EST (#)
Rating: 2

I'LL SEE YOUR TRIPLE DICKLE DOG WANG AND RAISE YOU A NOONIE SLOSH TRAIL

Submitted by Orgasmatron at 2006-11-29 13:16:08 EST (#)
Rating: 0

I...guess I'm keeping good company?

Submitted by ih8u2man at 2006-11-29 13:08:08 EST (#)
Rating: 2

You and you passion for the classics make Uber worth while.

Amoung other things.

Shlongy
Emus
Tubgirls
Lemon Party
Bart In Drag
Alters
Shennanigans (spell.)
-2 Die
Liek OMGWTFBBQ
Welcome to.....
MVA
Heat
Racism
Sexism
and a multitude of other "isms"

Submitted by Sacrilicious at 2006-11-29 13:05:12 EST (#)
Rating: 2

You know, your bible-inspired posts are the closest I get to church anymore.

Yeah yeah, I know they're actually painting-inspired..but you know what I mean.

Submitted by scourge at 2006-11-29 13:04:59 EST (#)
Rating: 2

nice


Herb: All born in wedlock?

Homer: Yeah, though the boy was a close call.

Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?